History Main / CanonDiscontinuity

27th Apr '17 5:04:45 PM FF32
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* Creator/TetsuyaNomura stated that ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' is a seperate continuity to the ''Compilation of Final Fantasy VII'' due to the inability to create a consistent feel for the series, and the desire to keep the ''Remake'' like the original in feel.

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* Creator/TetsuyaNomura stated that ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' is a seperate separate continuity to the ''Compilation of Final Fantasy VII'' due to the inability to create a consistent feel for the series, and the desire to keep the ''Remake'' like the original in feel.feel.
* The events of the ''[[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona Persona]]'' franchise spin-offs ''Anime/PersonaTrinitySoul'' and ''LightNovel/PersonaXDetectiveNaoto'' have been totally ignored by following games in the series.
26th Apr '17 2:15:48 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'' was originally meant to be a bridge between ''Film/SpiderMan'' and ''Film/SpiderMan2'', but the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' ignored it as the show depicted Curt Connors as having mutated into the Lizard and died, and ''2'' and ''Film/SpiderMan3''. Additionally, the show depicted Peter and Harry as still hearing an apartment whereas the sequels shows Peter living in s rundown apartment and Harry living in his dad's penthouse, and chances are good this take hold with Norman's death.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'' was originally meant to be a bridge between ''Film/SpiderMan'' and ''Film/SpiderMan2'', but the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' ignored it as the show depicted Curt Connors as having mutated into the Lizard and died, and ''2'' and ''Film/SpiderMan3''. ''Film/SpiderMan3'' showed a still-living and unmutated Connors. Additionally, the show depicted Peter and Harry as still hearing an apartment whereas the sequels shows Peter living in s rundown apartment and Harry living in his dad's penthouse, and chances are good this take hold with Norman's death.
23rd Apr '17 10:40:39 AM MagBas
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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''
** It's a general rule that the canonical game is the third game if a third version is made (''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Crystal]]'', ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Emerald]]'', ''[[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Platinum]]'', etc). If a previous game is referenced to, [[CuttingOffTheBranches it's always the third version]], which is a mixture of the original two with changes. The exception is ''Yellow'' (a RecursiveAdaptation of the [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} anime]]), which is treated as non-canonical in contrast with the other Gen I games, though it ''is'' [[ThirdOptionAdaptation the basis for]] [[spoiler:Red's team in Gen II, the Gen IV remakes, the Pokémon World Tournament in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Black 2/White 2]]'', and ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'']]. Also of note is that ''Yellow'' wasn't originally a third version in Japan; it was actually the ''[[OddballInTheSeries fourth]]'' version[[note]]''Blue'', which has the same story as ''Red'' and ''Green'' and was used as the basis for the international ''Red'' and ''Blue'', was the third version there.[[/note]]. However, since there hasn't been a third version since ''Platinum'', its possible that the rule of "third version supersedes the other games in a given generation" may not be applied any longer.
** Likewise, the [[VideoGameRemake remakes]] supersede the events of the original games they're based upon. The exception to this so far is ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire]]'', which, along with ''[[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY X/Y]]'', is instead heavily suggested in-game (and confirmed by WordOfGod) to reside in an {{alternate timeline}} from the first five generations due to [[spoiler:the firing of AZ's ultimate weapon 3,000 years prior to the events of ''X/Y'']]. The remakes tend to stray closer to the stories of the paired versions, but usually include a few aspects of the third version.
** ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' essentially proposed the idea that all the handheld games are canonical but they all occur in {{Alternate Universe}}s. The presence of characters (both humans and Pokemon) from third versions (like Anabel), remakes and the virtual console releases of ''Red and Blue'' suggest that they're MergingTheBranches.
19th Apr '17 9:15:43 AM Anicomicgeek
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'' was originally meant to be a bridge between ''Film/SpiderMan'' and ''Film/SpiderMan2'', but the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' ignored it as the show depicted Curt Connors as having mutated into the Lizard and died, and ''2'' and ''Film/SpiderMan3''. Additionally, the show depicted Peter and Harry as still hearing an apartment whereas the sequels shows Peter living in s rundown apartment and Harry living in his dad's penthouse, and chances are good this take hold with Norman's death.
12th Apr '17 9:10:22 PM Nezumi
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* If you search for the ''Virus Invasion'' series, you'll find ''Virus Invasion 1'' through ''7''; however, there actually existed an eighth game which was removed from the timeline. As it was subjected to an OrwellianRetcon, it is somewhat of a MissingEpisode these days. It has a story behind it which sounds like it was taken from a {{creepypasta}}. Firstly, it was an OddlyNamedSequel called ''Little Bear's Adventure''. It took place at approximately the same point in the timeline as ''Virus Invasion 2'', but was actually made first, shortly after ''VI 1'', and used the same (rather glitchy) engine. It was DarkerAndEdgier too: ever noticed how you play as yellow little bear in ''VI 1'' but cyan little bear in ''VI 2''? Well, that's because the first little bear never actually escaped: he was abandoned somewhere when the others left, becoming the protagonist of Little Bear's Adventure. He tries to escape again, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption but fails, ''dying at the end'']].

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* If you search for the ''Virus Invasion'' series, you'll find ''Virus Invasion 1'' through ''7''; however, there actually existed an eighth game which was removed from the timeline. As it was subjected to an OrwellianRetcon, it is somewhat of a MissingEpisode these days. It has a story behind it which sounds like it was taken from a {{creepypasta}}. Firstly, it was an OddlyNamedSequel called ''Little Bear's Adventure''. It took place at approximately the same point in the timeline as ''Virus Invasion 2'', but was actually made first, shortly after ''VI 1'', and used the same (rather glitchy) engine. It was DarkerAndEdgier too: ever noticed how you play as yellow little bear in ''VI 1'' but cyan little bear in ''VI 2''? Well, that's because the first little bear never actually escaped: he was abandoned somewhere when the others left, becoming the protagonist of Little Bear's Adventure. He tries to escape again, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption but fails, ''dying fails,]] ''[[FailureIsTheOnlyOption dying at the end'']].end]]''.
12th Apr '17 1:15:17 PM TheGerkuman
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* Dan, the creator of ConfusedMatthew, has invoked this on his videos released between 2011 and most of 2015, considering them mean spirited and him playing a character rather than giving his actual opinions.
11th Apr '17 4:19:59 PM Nulono
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** For an example in which the fans and creators are in agreement, look no further than the episodes "It's A Wishful Life" and "Twistory". The first of these was so unpopular because it basically states, in defiance of all in- or out-of-universe logic, that Timmy's very existence makes the lives of everyone he knows worse, and it would be better if he were never born. The fanbase took offense at the extreme mean-spiritedness of the episode, and the writers have admitted that it was a mistake and consider it an OldShame because of the UnfortunateImplications.[[note]]It is also rumored that the episode was made against creator Butch Hartman's wishes, meaning that he never liked it at any point.[[/note]] For these reasons, it is never aired in reruns, and later episodes are much less harsh to Timmy. "Twistory" is also never aired in reruns, because in its zeal to be patriotic it wound up offending both Americans and British people, by saying that if American independence never happened, the world would never have advanced past the eighteenth century. It should come as no surprise whatsoever that people complained, and the writers apologized. Its canonicity is more complicated, though -- while Nickelodeon tries to forget the episode was ever made, a later episode ("Escape from Unwish Island") that mentions the events of this one, albeit obliquely.

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** For an example in which the fans and creators are in agreement, look no further than the episodes "It's A Wishful Life" and "Twistory". The first of these was so unpopular because it basically states, in defiance of all in- or out-of-universe logic, that Timmy's very existence makes the lives of everyone he knows worse, and it would be better if he were never born. The fanbase took offense at the extreme mean-spiritedness of the episode, and the writers have admitted that it was a mistake and consider it an OldShame because of the UnfortunateImplications.[[note]]It is also rumored that the episode was made against creator Butch Hartman's wishes, meaning that he never liked it at any point.[[/note]] For these reasons, it is never aired in reruns, and later episodes are much less harsh to Timmy. "Twistory" is also never aired in reruns, because in its zeal to be patriotic it wound up offending both Americans and British people, by saying that if American independence never happened, the world would never have advanced past the eighteenth century. It should come as no surprise whatsoever that people complained, and the writers apologized. Its canonicity is more complicated, though -- while Nickelodeon tries to forget the episode was ever made, a later episode ("Escape from Unwish Island") that mentions the events of this one, albeit obliquely.
29th Mar '17 9:00:54 AM Reymma
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* Fans of ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'' like to pretend that the much-maligned Fifth Edition doesn't exist. In fact, the writers of a later edition (Paranoia XP from Mongoose Publishing) have declared the Fifth Edition an "[[UnPerson un-product]]" (rather appropriate for a darkly humorous game about a dystopia). The also-maligned Crash Era near the end of Second Edition also officially "never happened".

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* Fans The writers of ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}'' like to pretend that ''TabletopGame/Paranoia XP'' from Mongoose Publishing have declared the much-maligned Fifth Edition doesn't exist. In fact, the writers of a later edition (Paranoia XP from Mongoose Publishing) have declared the Fifth Edition an "[[UnPerson un-product]]" (rather appropriate for a darkly humorous game about a dystopia).un-product]]", reflecting how the in-universe dystopia treats anyone it doesn't want around. The also-maligned Crash Era near the end of Second Edition also officially "never happened".
27th Mar '17 4:33:42 PM Sunflorazumarill
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** In a similar way, another element that has been disregarded by the rest of the series is that ''[[Recap/StarTrekS1E14BalanceOfTerror Balance of Terror]]'' stated that the Romulans [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale did not have warp drive at the time]]. Like the above example, the rest of the series, including ''Enterprise'', ignores this.



** ''Film/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner'' completely ignores the ending of ''WesternAnimation/ChannelChasers'' as (among other things) Timmy is [[HeldBackInSchool still in fifth grade]] and still has Cosmo and Wanda as fairy godparents. Come ''Film/AFairlyOddSummer'', where [[spoiler: Timmy performed a HeroicSacrifice and AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]], and the ending to ''Channel Chasers'' is an impossibility. Interestingly, the fanbase loves ''Channel Chasers'' and hates the live-action movies, so they tend to call FanonDiscontinuity on them to undo this Canon Discontinuity. [[MindScrew Confused yet?]] Then again, the series itself makes it apparent that the future is never certain, so one can certainly Handwave the live-action movies as alternate futures.

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** ''Film/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner'' completely ignores the ending of ''WesternAnimation/ChannelChasers'' as (among other things) Timmy is [[HeldBackInSchool still in fifth grade]] and still has Cosmo and Wanda as fairy godparents. Come ''Film/AFairlyOddSummer'', where [[spoiler: Timmy performed a HeroicSacrifice and AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]], and the ending to ''Channel Chasers'' is an impossibility. Interestingly, the fanbase loves ''Channel Chasers'' and hates the live-action movies, so they tend to call FanonDiscontinuity on them to undo this Canon Discontinuity. [[MindScrew Confused yet?]] Then again, the series itself makes it apparent that the future is never certain, so one can certainly Handwave {{Handwave}} the live-action movies as alternate futures.futures. However, WordOfGod says that the live-action movies are the canon ending for the series.
26th Mar '17 2:36:42 PM Reymma
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** Any time something happens in ''[=WoW=]'' that directly contradicts established canonicity in the RTS games, ''[=WoW=]'' takes precedence, often stated as being "ongoing shifts in artistic leaning" or the like. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Certainly not because they just forgot the old story and never went back to check on it before finalizing the new info.]] See: the ''entire backstory'' of the Draenei: Originally, the Eredar were one of the races that corrupted Sargeras and the Dranei were an unrelated species native to the Ork homeworld of Draenor; now, Sargeras was already corrupted by the Nathrezim by the time he got to them, and ''he'' corrupted ''them'', with the Draenei being that faction of the Eredar who resisted his corruption and fled to Draenor.
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