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27th Jun '16 6:46:37 AM REV6Pilot
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* Creator/MonolithProductions chose to [[http://www.projectorigincommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5928&postcount=7 ignore]] the two ''[[VideoGame/FirstEncounterAssaultRecon F.E.A.R.]]'' {{Expansion Pack}}s (which were made by a different company) when they started development on the game's ''real'' sequel. Some elements from the expansions were kept in the sequel, however, such as the Replica reactivating despite Fettel's death (though this time with an actual logical explanation, at least for the first group of them), [[spoiler:Fettel coming back from said death]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the ability to punch doors open]].

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* Creator/MonolithProductions chose to [[http://www.projectorigincommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5928&postcount=7 ignore]] the two ''[[VideoGame/FirstEncounterAssaultRecon F.E.A.R.]]'' {{Expansion Pack}}s (which were made by a different company) company, Vivendi) when they started development on the game's ''real'' sequel. sequels. As far as the wiki goes, the fandom treats ''Extraction Point'' and ''Perseus Mandate'' as the Vivendi timeline, ''Project Origin'' and on as the Monoligh timeline, and ''First Encounter Assault Recon'' as belonging to both. Some elements from the expansions were kept in the sequel, kept, however, such as the Replica reactivating despite Fettel's death (though this time with an actual logical explanation, at least for the first group of them), [[spoiler:Fettel coming back from said death]], and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking the ability to punch doors open]].
25th Jun '16 2:18:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget2015'' directly continues on from the classic ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget'', and makes no mention of ''GadgetAndTheGadgetinis'' whatsoever.

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* ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget2015'' directly continues on from the classic ''WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget'', and makes no mention of ''GadgetAndTheGadgetinis'' ''WesternAnimation/GadgetAndTheGadgetinis'' whatsoever.
24th Jun '16 5:17:33 PM MyFinalEdits
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* Oddest case ever: ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry 4''. It doesn't exist. It's not just non-canonical, [[UnInstallment it was never made]]. The real-life explanation is that they couldn't think of a good way to continue from ''Larry 3''[='s=] happy ending, so they just did a sequel anyway and made the continuity errors it produces part of the plot. The story goes that creator Al Lowe had sworn that there would never be a ''4''... before agreeing to make another ''Larry'' game. To keep his oath, he made ''5'' and simply had the characters reference ''Leisure Suit Larry 4: The Missing Floppies'', a title that exists in the game's plot. The cleanup for the plot from ''3'' was an added bonus. The lack of ''4'' even became a plot point in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuest 4''; Vohaul had corrupted the master disks and used them to take over Xenon.

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* Oddest case ever: ''VideoGame/LeisureSuitLarry 4''. It doesn't exist. It's not just non-canonical, [[UnInstallment it was never made]]. The real-life explanation is that they couldn't think of a good way to continue from ''Larry 3''[='s=] happy ending, so they just did a sequel anyway and made the continuity errors it produces part of the plot. The story goes that creator Al Lowe had sworn that there would never be a ''4''... before agreeing to make another ''Larry'' game. To keep his oath, he made ''5'' and simply had the characters reference ''Leisure Suit Larry 4: The Missing Floppies'', a title that exists in the game's plot. The cleanup for the plot from ''3'' was an added bonus. The lack of ''4'' even became a plot point in ''VideoGame/SpaceQuest 4''; Vohaul had corrupted the master disks and used them to take over Xenon.



* While not entirely declaring them non-canonical, Yoshio Sakamoto said that he did not take the plots of the ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime'' games into consideration in the making of ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''. This leads to some weirdness when Samus mentions that this is the first time she's undertaken a mission alongside the Federation when she already did that in ''Metroid Prime 3''. However, these are minor plot holes in a series riddled with them. The fact that the ''Prime'' sub-series was American-made and [[GaidenGame told its own story instead of furthering the plot]] of the Japanese games may have had something to do with this.

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* While not entirely declaring them non-canonical, Yoshio Sakamoto said that he did not take the plots of the ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime'' ''VideoGame/MetroidPrimeTrilogy'' games into consideration in the making of ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''. This leads to some weirdness when Samus mentions that this is the first time she's undertaken a mission alongside the Federation when she already did that in ''Metroid Prime 3''.''VideoGame/MetroidPrime3Corruption''. However, these are minor plot holes in a series riddled with them. The fact that the ''Prime'' sub-series was American-made and [[GaidenGame told its own story instead of furthering the plot]] of the Japanese games may have had something to do with this.



* The [[Literature/BaldursGate unpopular novelizations]] of the ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' series, in which the protagonist was a {{Jerkass}} KarmaHoudini, was eventually declared non-canonical by Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast. Officially, ''D&D'' video games are all non-canonical to the broader tabletop ''D&D'' continuity, letting the video game designers shake up the world however they like without worrying about treading on tabletop designers' and players' toes. However, most ''novels'' are treated as canonical to the tabletop settings unless stated otherwise (a situation classic ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'' players were familiar with and bemoaned), which is why the ''Baldur's Gate'' novel specifically needed excising.

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* ''Franchise/BaldursGate'':
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The [[Literature/BaldursGate unpopular novelizations]] of the ''Franchise/BaldursGate'' series, in which the protagonist was a {{Jerkass}} KarmaHoudini, was eventually declared non-canonical by Creator/WizardsOfTheCoast. Officially, ''D&D'' video games are all non-canonical to the broader tabletop ''D&D'' continuity, letting the video game designers shake up the world however they like without worrying about treading on tabletop designers' and players' toes. However, most ''novels'' are treated as canonical to the tabletop settings unless stated otherwise (a situation classic ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'' players were familiar with and bemoaned), which is why the ''Baldur's Gate'' novel specifically needed excising.



* [[WordOfGod Serris]] says that the rebooted ''Furtopia RP'' is not part of the ''Roleplay/DarwinsSoldiers'' canon and never will be.
** His next role-play franchise, ''Into the Black'', retconned the existence of ''Racing the Storm'' and everything from it, with the exception of [[BreakoutCharacter Flora the folf]].

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* [[WordOfGod Serris]] says that the rebooted ''Furtopia RP'' is not part of the ''Roleplay/DarwinsSoldiers'' canon and never will be.
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be. His next role-play franchise, ''Into the Black'', retconned the existence of ''Racing the Storm'' and everything from it, with the exception of [[BreakoutCharacter Flora the folf]].
24th Jun '16 11:46:02 AM MisterCPC
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* Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.

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* ** Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.again.
** Television spinoffs of the Disney Canon, such as ''Timon and Pumbaa'', ''The Little Mermaid'', or ''Hercules: The Series'' are also rendered non-canon to the films and are never brought up again afterward. Oftentimes they can end up conflicting with events from the movies as well.
16th Jun '16 6:59:42 PM PatPayne
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* This mixed with OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope has brought about the final resolution to the Unseen debacle that has plagued ''TabletopGame/{{Battletech}}'' since at least 1995. In June, 2015, Catalyst Game Labs began phasing in new designs for the iconic Unseen designs that cannot be legally used or shown [[note]] Technically, the ''artwork'' for the 'mechs not derived from ''SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' (which is totally off-limits) can be used, but everyone involved doesn't want another headache with art that wasn't made in-house by FASA/Fanpro/Catalyst[[/note]], ones that are evocative of the originals but different enough to be considered legally original works. Catalyst has officially stated that the original "Unseen" art is no longer canon.
15th Jun '16 10:45:18 PM MyFinalEdits
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* StarWarsTheForceAwakens was this to all post Battle of Endor StarWars fiction.



** All Expanded Universe stories became non-canonical ''Star Wars'' Legends after Creator/{{Disney}} acquired the franchise.
15th Jun '16 7:51:27 PM Adept
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* Disney has no regard for their Direct-to-DVD sequels such as ''Poccahontas 2'', ''Mulan 2'' and ''The Little Mermaid 2''. Characters introduced in those sequels rarely (if ever) get merchandising, and the events that take place in those movies are never referenced again.
14th Jun '16 12:10:05 AM MyFinalEdits
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Creator/GeorgeLucas has publicly said that the ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' does not form part of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' canon.
** Lucas has implied through [[OrwellianRetcon burying the original theatrical versions in his vaults]] that the Special Edition second version from 2005 (Greedo and Han shoot at almost the same time) is the official version of the event.
** The ''Star Wars Infinities'' trilogy of graphic novels was specifically for non-canonical "what if" stories, including ''Star Wars Infinities: A New Hope'', ''Star Wars Infinities: The Empire Strikes Back'', and ''Star Wars Infinities: Return of the Jedi''. ''Star Wars Tales'' #1-20 retroactively became Infinities stories. ''The Star Wars'', an adaptation of the original movie script, was explicitly outside continuity.
** All Expanded Universe stories became non-canonical ''Star Wars'' Legends after Creator/{{Disney}} acquired the franchise.
13th Jun '16 7:32:09 PM chickenpie999
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* ''Star Wars Infinities'' was specifically for non-canonical "what if" stories, including ''Star Wars Infinities: A New Hope'', ''Star Wars Infinities: The Empire Strikes Back'', and ''Star Wars Infinities: Return of the Jedi''. ''Star Wars Tales'' #1-20 retroactively became Infinities stories. ''The Star Wars'', an adaptation of the original movie script, was explicitly outside continuity. With the new continuity, all previous Expanded Universe stories are non-canonical ''Star Wars'' Legends.



* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Creator/GeorgeLucas has publicly said that the ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' does not form part of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' canon.
** Lucas has implied through [[OrwellianRetcon burying the original theatrical versions in his vaults]] that the Special Edition second version from 2005 (Greedo and Han shoot at almost the same time) is the official version of the event. [[FanonDiscontinuity Fans ignore this implication.]]

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'':
** Creator/GeorgeLucas has publicly said that the ''Film/TheStarWarsHolidaySpecial'' does not form part of the ''Franchise/StarWars'' canon.
** Lucas has implied through [[OrwellianRetcon burying the original theatrical versions in his vaults]] that the Special Edition second version from 2005 (Greedo and Han shoot at almost the same time) is the official version of the event. [[FanonDiscontinuity Fans ignore
StarWarsTheForceAwakens was this implication.]] to all post Battle of Endor StarWars fiction.
11th Jun '16 6:10:21 PM comicwriter
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* ''Captain America'' Vol. 4 had a controversial story by John Ney Reiber and Chuck Austen, which implied that the story of how Cap had been frozen (recounted in ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' #4) was a lie. "Ice," Austen's follow up story arc, revealed that the U.S. government had frozen Cap so that he couldn't prevent the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and that the {{Flashback}}s from ''Avengers''#4 were FakeMemories. Austen was soon replaced, and the {{Retcon}} was never mentioned again.

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* ''Captain America'' Vol. 4 had a controversial story by John Ney Reiber and Chuck Austen, which implied that the story of how Cap had been frozen (recounted in ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' #4) was a lie. "Ice," Austen's follow up story arc, revealed that the U.S. government had frozen Cap so that he couldn't prevent the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and that the {{Flashback}}s from ''Avengers''#4 ''Avengers'' #4 were FakeMemories. Austen was soon replaced, and the {{Retcon}} was never mentioned again.
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