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14th Mar '17 6:06:12 AM SilentStranger
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** What makes this especially ironic is that unlike the Main Marvel Universe of 616, the Ultimate Marvel mutants are ''not'' the result of evolution, they're actually a byproduct of the world goverments attempting to replicate the Super Soldier Serum after WW2, which ended up screwing with the gene pool when the various failed super soldier projects had kids of their own.


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** It's even worse in Marvel, where the Atlanteans are mostly extinct, and have virtually no claim to any other ocean territory besides the Atlantic.
6th Mar '17 11:27:52 AM Gravidef
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* A human example occurs in ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' in the form of Chalky Studebaker. He's TheAce of Bluffington Jr. High, and in one episode, it's discovered that he and Doug both got identical answers on a test. Everyone automatically assumes that Chalky is incapable of cheating, because he's so perfect and outstanding, so Doug naturally must have copied him--except Doug didn't. Doug spends the rest of the episode trying to track Chalky down to talk to him, and when he finally confronts him, Chalky admits that he did cheat--he's [[BrokenAce so busy trying to be good at everything]] that he didn't have time to study. It also shows us where this attitude came from--[[WellDoneSonGuy his father]]. Thankfully, Chalky owns up to his mistake and agrees to do a retest, even if it means missing an important football game, so it's ultimately a deconstruction of the trope.
26th Feb '17 5:56:25 PM kraas
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** Averted in ''Literature/TheHobbit'', in which the Elves of Mirkwood (and King Thranduil in particular) act more like paranoid rednecks than untouchable paragons of greatness. They live in a dank forest overrun by giant evil spiders, kidnap and imprison the Dwarves for no good reason, and then throw a huge party and get so blackout drunk that the protagonists are able to escape.

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** Averted in ''Literature/TheHobbit'', in which the Elves of Mirkwood (and King Thranduil in particular) act more like paranoid rednecks than untouchable paragons of greatness. They live in a dank forest overrun by giant evil spiders, kidnap and imprison the Dwarves for no good reason, and then throw a huge party and get so blackout drunk that the protagonists are able to escape. In contrast, the Noldor of Rivendell are portrayed as wise and noble, but they also avert the trope by being friendly and gracious hosts.
19th Feb '17 9:04:45 AM AdamC
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* A self-righteous example would be the HeroicAntagonist Mizzamir in the book ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity.'' The other elves have all left for a distant world, but he remained behind to guide mankind to a glorious future. No one dare argue with him, even as he [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashes dissident citizens into loyal ones.]]

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* A self-righteous example would be the HeroicAntagonist HeroAntagonist Mizzamir in the book ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity.'' The other elves have all left for a distant world, but he remained behind to guide mankind to a glorious future. No one dare argue with him, even as he [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashes dissident citizens into loyal ones.]]
19th Feb '17 9:03:32 AM AdamC
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* A self-righteous example would be the HeroicAntagonist Mizzamir in the book ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity.'' The other elves have all left for a distant world, but he remained behind to guide mankind to a glorious future. No one dare argue with him, even as he [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwashes dissident citizens into loyal ones.]]
28th Jan '17 7:33:08 PM SilverShadow2722
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* Neatly deconstructed in the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' [[FanficRecs/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicHumans "Human" fic]], ''[[http://m.fanfiction.net/s/7721108/1/ What Separates]]''. Twilight initially takes the "elf" role after the arrival of a human soldier from TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, but over time realizes that 1) some of the stated flaws of humanity are based on unfair assumptions or generalizations; and 2) the Ponies can live a more idyllic lifestyle because they have magic and, with that, a much greater degree of control over their environment.

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* Neatly deconstructed in the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' [[FanficRecs/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicHumans "Human" fic]], ''[[http://m.''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7721108/1/ What Separates]]''. Twilight initially takes the "elf" role after the arrival of a human soldier from TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, but over time realizes that 1) some of the stated flaws of humanity are based on unfair assumptions or generalizations; and 2) the Ponies can live a more idyllic lifestyle because they have magic and, with that, a much greater degree of control over their environment.
26th Jan '17 1:51:38 PM theknack101
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** However, when you are light aligned Sith, you get the chance to shove their arguments right back in their face more often than not. As a Dark aligned Sith, you generally just don't give a damn what they think. They are about to die after all.
8th Jan '17 1:48:22 PM nombretomado
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* The mutants in Marvel's [[UltimateMarvel Ultimate Universe]] constantly talk about how genetically superior they are, and how it means they have a higher standard of behavior. On one occasion Professor X tells Cyclops that a certain instance of resentment is a human thing, and he is "pleased to say" Cyclops wouldn't understand. The ordinary human they are talking to at the time says not a word.

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* The mutants in Marvel's [[UltimateMarvel [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate Universe]] constantly talk about how genetically superior they are, and how it means they have a higher standard of behavior. On one occasion Professor X tells Cyclops that a certain instance of resentment is a human thing, and he is "pleased to say" Cyclops wouldn't understand. The ordinary human they are talking to at the time says not a word.
18th Oct '16 1:57:05 PM roxana
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** Betans can be kind of like this, everyone making a fuss about how morally superior they are.

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** Betans can be kind of like this, everyone making a fuss about how morally superior they are. Mind you this is a planet whose GNP is based on weapons development and sex tourism.
3rd Oct '16 9:05:56 AM Billlington
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* The Next in Creator/TerryPratchett and Creator/StephenBaxter's ''Literature/TheLongEarth'' series come across as this. Aside from the usual traits associated with this trope (sexual liberation, preposterously advanced intelligence, almost perfectly utopian society, outward condescension to regular humans), regular humans routinely talk up their superiority and are even implied to be on the path to completely replace humanity in the future.

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* The Next in Creator/TerryPratchett and Creator/StephenBaxter's ''Literature/TheLongEarth'' series come across as this. Aside from the usual traits associated with this trope (sexual liberation, preposterously advanced intelligence, perfectly logical, almost perfectly utopian society, outward condescension to regular humans), regular humans routinely talk up their superiority and are even implied to be on the path to completely replace humanity in the future.
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