History Main / CableSatelliteMudslinging

26th Apr '16 8:30:33 PM KYCubbie
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Cable is not an option for residents of rural areas not serviced by any cable company, rendering those ads pointless for them. The same is true of satellite ads shown to people renting from a landlord who doesn't allow satellite dishes or who have no clear view of the southern sky. Some markets require additional dishes to receive local stations or HD programming, presenting an additional hassle for satellite customers. Finally, satellite TV providers cannot provide phone and internet service the way phone and cable companies can, making it impossible for their customers to take advantage of triple-play bundles.

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Cable is not an option for residents of rural areas not serviced by any cable company, rendering those ads pointless for them. The same is true of satellite ads shown to people renting from a landlord who doesn't allow satellite dishes[[note]]though in the U.S., federal law forces almost all landlords to allow the small dishes used by [=DirecTV=] and Dish[[/note]] or who have no clear view of the southern sky. Some markets require additional dishes to receive local stations or HD programming, presenting an additional hassle for satellite customers. Finally, satellite TV providers cannot provide phone and internet service the way phone and cable companies can, making it impossible for their customers to take advantage of triple-play bundles.
bundles. This last point has changed in the U.S. since [=DirecTV=] was bought by AT&T in 2015.



** Nowadays it has evolved into an all-out bashing campaign from '''yoo''' (a Triple-Play service) against everyone[[note]]their main target is Telmex, Mexico's largest phone and internet provider, which can't offer cable TV services due to strange legal circumstances,[[/note]] except Sky (since both have deals with the same company), which backfired spectacularly for the same reasons as the ''I'm A Mac'' ads. They learned from that mistake, but their ads are still disliked because the main networks [[SpamAttack spam them during every commercial break.]]

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** Nowadays it has evolved into an all-out bashing campaign from '''yoo''' (a Triple-Play service) against everyone[[note]]their main target is Telmex, Mexico's largest phone and internet provider, which can't offer cable TV services due to strange legal circumstances,[[/note]] circumstances[[/note]] except Sky (since both have deals with the same company), which backfired spectacularly for the same reasons as the ''I'm A Mac'' ads. They learned from that mistake, but their ads are still disliked because the main networks [[SpamAttack spam them during every commercial break.]]
1st Mar '16 9:27:15 PM MsChibi
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The development of "triple-play" -- phone, TV and data in a cable connection -- might turn the tables on this practice sooner or later. Satellite has historically been far more expensive and less efficient for data and phone than wired services, at least in urban areas. Something else that has also begun to change the playing field is online viewing through services such as Hulu, Amazon Instant Video / Prime, and Netflix, leading many to ditch either cable or satellite entirely. Of course, this may just mean that the cable / satellite providers pursue the remaining market all the more aggressively.

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The development of "triple-play" -- phone, TV and data in a cable connection -- might turn the tables on this practice sooner or later. Satellite has historically been far more expensive and less efficient for data and phone than wired services, at least in urban areas. Something else that has also begun to change the playing field is (usually cheaper and more convenient) online viewing through services such as Hulu, Amazon Instant Video / Prime, and Netflix, leading many to [[TakeAThirdOption ditch either cable or satellite entirely.entirely]]. Of course, this may just mean that the cable / satellite providers pursue the remaining market all the more aggressively.
6th Feb '16 9:13:31 PM nombretomado
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* Even small companies in barely-relevant regions get to have this, as Alaska's two locals, GCI (primarily the cable company) and ACS (the privatized version of formerly-public phone utility company ATU, merged with Internet Alaska, the first non-AOL ISP in the state) both regularly trash each other in various commercials - ACS largely on price (they resell Dish Network as well), while GCI goes on and on about DS Snail - while using one of the cast of {{Frasier}} and his pet snail. And yes, GCI also uses the same reliability accusations that many national cable companies use - in spite of ACS being ''proven'' more reliable by studies by independents and funded by ''both'' companies... In spite of ''both using the same phone network''.

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* Even small companies in barely-relevant regions get to have this, as Alaska's two locals, GCI (primarily the cable company) and ACS (the privatized version of formerly-public phone utility company ATU, merged with Internet Alaska, the first non-AOL ISP in the state) both regularly trash each other in various commercials - ACS largely on price (they resell Dish Network as well), while GCI goes on and on about DS Snail - while using one of the cast of {{Frasier}} ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' and his pet snail. And yes, GCI also uses the same reliability accusations that many national cable companies use - in spite of ACS being ''proven'' more reliable by studies by independents and funded by ''both'' companies... In spite of ''both using the same phone network''.
5th Feb '16 9:54:26 PM nombretomado
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* Since Australian pay TV is practically just Foxtel, the mudslinging is between them and broadcast networks. Foxtel's [[AustralianRulesFootball AFL]] channel is advertised as being completely "ad-break free siren to siren", while many sport events on Seven (including the some AFL games) are broadcast with an on-screen graphic announcing that it's "live and free".

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* Since Australian pay TV is practically just Foxtel, the mudslinging is between them and broadcast networks. Foxtel's [[AustralianRulesFootball [[UsefulNotes/AustralianRulesFootball AFL]] channel is advertised as being completely "ad-break free siren to siren", while many sport events on Seven (including the some AFL games) are broadcast with an on-screen graphic announcing that it's "live and free".
29th Jan '16 6:58:50 PM SmytheOrdo
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One of the things Americans don't notice, of course, is that cable companies don't go after each other. That's because cable companies will not wire an area if there's an existing cable operator, almost like a [[TheMafia mob]] staying out of another's territory. This is why the City of Los Angeles has 11 companies licensed to provide service anywhere in the city, but ''none of them'' operates in any area where there already is a cable company operating. So why step on the toes of someone who isn't actually a competitor? (The bigger cities have some competition, but the "overbuilders" are much smaller companies.)

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One of the things Americans don't notice, of course, is that cable companies don't go after each other. That's because cable companies will not wire an area if there's an existing cable operator, almost like a [[TheMafia mob]] staying out of another's territory. [[note]]This is a result of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, specifically the Cable Act.[[/note]] This is why the City of Los Angeles has 11 companies licensed to provide service anywhere in the city, but ''none of them'' operates in any area where there already is a cable company operating. So why step on the toes of someone who isn't actually a competitor? (The bigger cities have some competition, but the "overbuilders" are much smaller companies.)
13th Jan '16 9:13:15 PM FordPrefect
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* An ad for Time Warner cable in the summer of 2014 featured a woman who got home to find her husband had purchased not only the couch they were needing to buy, but a whole living room of tables, chairs, and lamps. The husband claims he needed to buy everything shown in the room to get the best deal on the couch leaving his wife to fathom WHY somebody would want to do that when they only need one thing. Cue the announcer who walks in saying Time Warner DOES provide such a deal--if all you want to buy is internet you can buy it and pay for it cheap without needing to buy extra things you don't want.

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* An ad for Time Warner cable in the summer of 2014 featured a woman who got home to find her husband had purchased not only the couch they were needing to buy, but a whole living room of tables, chairs, and lamps. The husband claims he needed to buy everything shown in the room to get the best deal on the couch couch, leaving his wife to fathom WHY somebody would want to do that when they only need one thing. Cue the announcer who walks in saying Time Warner DOES provide such a deal--if all you want to buy is internet internet, you can buy it and pay for it cheap without needing to buy extra things you don't want.
13th Jan '16 9:10:47 PM FordPrefect
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* Even Creator/TheWeatherChannel has gotten involved in service bashing. In 2013, Creator/TheWeatherChannel decided to raise the per-subscriber rate it charges the cable or satellite operator from about 13 cents to 14 cents, while [=DirecTV=] felt that TWC was only worth 10 cents, so [=DirecTV=] decided to drop it in favor of [=WeatherNation=], a competing TV weather service that does not charge subscriber fees. So The Weather Channel started running ads (on itself, of course, it doesn't want to pay competing stations to run ads) bashing [=DirecTV=] either parodying [=DirecTV=]'s ad campaign bashing cable companies, or complaining about how [=DirecTV=] has taken it off despite the fact that ''Nobody on [=DirecTV=] can see the ads because their channel isn't on [=DirecTV=].''

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* Even Creator/TheWeatherChannel has gotten involved in service bashing. In 2013, Creator/TheWeatherChannel decided to raise the per-subscriber rate it charges the cable or satellite operator from about 13 cents to 14 cents, while [=DirecTV=] felt that TWC was only worth 10 cents, so [=DirecTV=] decided to drop it in favor of [=WeatherNation=], a competing TV weather service that does not charge subscriber fees. So The Weather Channel started running ads (on itself, of course, it doesn't want to pay competing stations to run ads) bashing [=DirecTV=] either parodying [=DirecTV=]'s ad campaign bashing cable companies, or complaining about how [=DirecTV=] has taken it off despite the fact that ''Nobody ''nobody on [=DirecTV=] can see the ads because their channel isn't on [=DirecTV=].''
13th Jan '16 9:09:27 PM FordPrefect
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* A Time Warner TV spot featured Creator/MikeOMalley holding a small puppy, saying that since cable cost less than satellite, the money could be used to buy things like dog food, and that puppies ''love'' dog food, so that the simple conclusion ''must'' be that [[InsaneTrollLogic satellite ''hates'' puppies]]. The ad execs themselves seem to have realized such strawman tactics were crossing some sort of line, as one hardly if ever sees this particular commercial any more. This advertisement resurfaced; it was originally targeted at DirecTV, and started being targeted at AT&T [=UVerse=] after the [=DirecTV=]/AT&T merger.
* This type of commercial started coming to The Netherlands, where UPC and Ziggo control over 90% of the market when it comes to cable. They've been knocking KPN / [=TELE2=] for the quality of their digital TV offering and DSL in general for their lack of speed. Of course, KPN (who owns the telecom network) is started building a fiber-optic network to get better speeds so soon enough the ads will be going the other direction.

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* A Time Warner TV spot featured Creator/MikeOMalley holding a small puppy, saying that since cable cost less than satellite, the money could be used to buy things like dog food, and that puppies ''love'' dog food, so that the simple conclusion ''must'' be that [[InsaneTrollLogic satellite ''hates'' puppies]]. The ad execs themselves seem to have realized such strawman tactics were crossing some sort of line, as one hardly if ever sees this particular commercial any more. This advertisement resurfaced; it was originally targeted at DirecTV, [=DirecTV=], and started being targeted at AT&T [=UVerse=] after the [=DirecTV=]/AT&T merger.
* This type of commercial started coming to The Netherlands, where UPC and Ziggo control over 90% of the market when it comes to cable. They've been knocking KPN / [=TELE2=] for the quality of their digital TV offering and DSL in general for their lack of speed. Of course, KPN (who owns the telecom network) is has started building a fiber-optic network to get better speeds speeds, so soon enough the ads will be going the other direction.
13th Jan '16 9:04:30 PM FordPrefect
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** It has evolved nowadays in an all-out bashing campaign from '''yoo''' (a Triple-Play service) against everyone[[note]]their main target is Telmex, Mexico's largest phone and internet provider, which can't offer cable TV services due to strange legal circumstances,[[/note]] except Sky (since both have deals with the same company), which backfired spectacularly for the same reasons as the ''I'm A Mac'' ads. They learned from that mistake, however their ads are still disliked but due to the fact the main networks [[SpamAttack spam them in every commercial break.]]

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** It Nowadays it has evolved nowadays in into an all-out bashing campaign from '''yoo''' (a Triple-Play service) against everyone[[note]]their main target is Telmex, Mexico's largest phone and internet provider, which can't offer cable TV services due to strange legal circumstances,[[/note]] except Sky (since both have deals with the same company), which backfired spectacularly for the same reasons as the ''I'm A Mac'' ads. They learned from that mistake, however but their ads are still disliked but due to the fact because the main networks [[SpamAttack spam them in during every commercial break.]]
13th Jan '16 9:03:22 PM FordPrefect
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** The other News 12 Networks (everywhere else in the NYC/Tri-State Area, except Manhattan, as Time Warner (and soon Charter) operates there) do a similar thing.

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** The other News 12 Networks (everywhere - everywhere else in the NYC/Tri-State Area, except Manhattan, as Time Warner (and soon Charter) operates there) there - do a similar thing.
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