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15th Feb '18 10:32:28 AM ShireNomad
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* In ''Series/PersonOfInterest'', the CIA look like a bunch of cold blooded killers that the FBI wants to take down. Agent Snow in particular loves to use the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness trope on anyone that works for him. In several instances, the CIA is actually behind the criminal rings the protagonists are fighting. There's also Northern Lights, a related organization focused on anti-terrorism with similar scope and authority; they may mean well but they're very "ends justify the means" and have no objection to killing anyone who gets in their way. And MI-6 shows up at one point and is, surprise, also corrupt. The three agencies each contribute to the RogueAgent pile-up that is the show, as agents keep figuring out it isn't healthy to stay with the team.

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* In ''Series/PersonOfInterest'', the CIA look like a bunch of cold blooded killers that the FBI wants to take down. Agent Snow in particular loves to use the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness trope on anyone that works for him. In several instances, the CIA is actually behind the criminal rings the protagonists are fighting. There's also Northern Lights, a related organization focused on anti-terrorism with similar scope and authority; they may mean well but they're very "ends justify the means" and have no objection to killing anyone who gets in their way. And MI-6 shows up at one point and is, surprise, also corrupt. The three agencies each contribute to the RogueAgent pile-up that is the show, as agents keep figuring out it isn't healthy to stay with the team.their respective teams.
15th Feb '18 10:31:54 AM ShireNomad
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* In ''Series/PersonOfInterest'', the CIA look like a bunch of cold blooded killers that the FBI wants to take down. Agent Snow in particular loves to use the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness trope on anyone that works for him. In several instances, the CIA is actually behind the criminal rings the protagonists are fighting. There's also Northern Lights, a related organization focused on anti-terrorism with similar scope and authority; they may mean well but they're very "ends justify the means" and have no objection to killing anyone who gets in their way. And MI-6 shows up at one point and is, surprise, also corrupt.

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* In ''Series/PersonOfInterest'', the CIA look like a bunch of cold blooded killers that the FBI wants to take down. Agent Snow in particular loves to use the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness trope on anyone that works for him. In several instances, the CIA is actually behind the criminal rings the protagonists are fighting. There's also Northern Lights, a related organization focused on anti-terrorism with similar scope and authority; they may mean well but they're very "ends justify the means" and have no objection to killing anyone who gets in their way. And MI-6 shows up at one point and is, surprise, also corrupt. The three agencies each contribute to the RogueAgent pile-up that is the show, as agents keep figuring out it isn't healthy to stay with the team.
15th Feb '18 10:19:22 AM ShireNomad
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* In ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' the CIA look like a bunch of cold blooded killers that the FBI wants to take down. Agent Snow in particular loves to use the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness trope on anyone that works for him. In several instances, the CIA is actually behind the criminal rings the protagonists are fighting.
-->'''Reese:''' They realized they couldn't win the War on Drugs, so they're using it to fund the War on Terror.

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* In ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' ''Series/PersonOfInterest'', the CIA look like a bunch of cold blooded killers that the FBI wants to take down. Agent Snow in particular loves to use the YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness trope on anyone that works for him. In several instances, the CIA is actually behind the criminal rings the protagonists are fighting.
-->'''Reese:''' They realized
fighting. There's also Northern Lights, a related organization focused on anti-terrorism with similar scope and authority; they couldn't win the War on Drugs, so may mean well but they're using it to fund very "ends justify the War on Terror.means" and have no objection to killing anyone who gets in their way. And MI-6 shows up at one point and is, surprise, also corrupt.



* So far ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' has been fuzzy about this. The FBI has been shown to be the protagonist's enemy, but only because they honestly believe that Reese is a dangerous criminal who needs to be stopped. The FBI have been consistently portrayed as honest and dedicated to stopping crime, and Carter admits they are the only ones she trusts to [[spoiler: bring down HR]]. Donnelly ultimately slides into InspectorJavert territory, but was never corrupt.

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* So far ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' has been fuzzy about this. The FBI has been shown to be the protagonist's enemy, but only because they honestly believe that Reese is a dangerous criminal who needs to be stopped. The FBI have been consistently portrayed as honest and dedicated to stopping crime, and Carter admits they are the only ones she trusts to [[spoiler: bring down HR]]. Donnelly ultimately slides into InspectorJavert territory, but was is never corrupt.



* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the characters is ex-CIA who conducted illegal operations on American soil. His superior Mark Snow is still in New York, smuggling drugs and trying to hunt them down. FBI recently came into picture, trying to bring them down.

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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'': One of the characters is ex-CIA who conducted illegal operations on American soil. His superior Mark Snow is still in New York, smuggling drugs and trying to hunt them down. At one point, the FBI recently came comes into the picture, trying to bring them down.down Snow.
3rd Feb '18 5:44:52 AM Laqueesha
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** In Season 11, the trope returns, but this time it's the DoD that is evil. They are sent as essentially thuggish hitmen to murder Scully's son.
28th Jan '18 9:42:44 AM thatother1dude
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* ''Series/TwinPeaks'': Special Agent Dale Cooper, [[BunnyEarsLawyer despite his eccentricity]], lives up the idea of G-man being upstanding, incorruptible, and unfailingly polite and professional.

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* ''Series/TwinPeaks'': Special Agent Dale Cooper, [[BunnyEarsLawyer despite his eccentricity]], lives up the idea of a G-man being upstanding, incorruptible, and unfailingly polite and professional.
24th Jan '18 4:42:20 AM Cryoclaste
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* The CIA, sometimes known as the [[NineteenEightyFour Ministry of Love]], is one of the most dangerous groups that oppose the ''VideoGame/LiberalCrimeSquad''.

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* The CIA, sometimes known as the [[NineteenEightyFour [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour Ministry of Love]], is one of the most dangerous groups that oppose the ''VideoGame/LiberalCrimeSquad''.
14th Jan '18 3:06:18 PM nombretomado
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* The CIA, sometimes known as the [[NineteenEightyFour Ministry of Love]], is one of the most dangerous groups that oppose the ''LiberalCrimeSquad''.

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* The CIA, sometimes known as the [[NineteenEightyFour Ministry of Love]], is one of the most dangerous groups that oppose the ''LiberalCrimeSquad''.''VideoGame/LiberalCrimeSquad''.



* The FBI is [[TheEnemyOfMyEnemy an ally]] of the ''LiberalCrimeSquad'', if only because they can eventually take down the [[MSNBCConservative Conservative]] [[EvilCounterpart Crime]] [[NotSoDifferent Squad]]

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* The FBI is [[TheEnemyOfMyEnemy an ally]] of the ''LiberalCrimeSquad'', ''VideoGame/LiberalCrimeSquad'', if only because they can eventually take down the [[MSNBCConservative Conservative]] [[EvilCounterpart Crime]] [[NotSoDifferent Squad]]
3rd Dec '17 9:10:25 AM Cieloazul
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In popular perception (or at least in popular media), the Federal Bureau of Investigations chases serial killers, busts countrywide fraud rings, [[Series/TheXFiles checks out paranormal weirdness]] and is generally portrayed as good and law-abiding.

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In popular perception (or at least in popular media), the [[UsefulNotes/AmericanLawEnforcement Federal Bureau of Investigations Investigations]] chases serial killers, busts countrywide fraud rings, [[Series/TheXFiles checks out paranormal weirdness]] and is generally portrayed as good and law-abiding.
2nd Dec '17 8:51:37 PM dbdude01
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* In the Film/JamesBond films, Bond's best friend and occasional sidekick, Felix Leiter, is a CIA agent.
26th Nov '17 10:35:28 AM nombretomado
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* A German version of this trope also exists: The ''[[GermanTVStations KiKa]]'' teen drama ''Series/AlleinGegenDieZeit'' features two BKA officers (Bundeskriminalamt - Federal Criminal Police Office - pretty much a German FBI) rescuing top-secret documents from the Ministry of the Interior's archives from two shadowy figures. They later get suspected of being part of the conspiracy when it turns out they just stole files from investigating BND agents (Bundesnachrichtendienst - Federal Intelligence Service - a stand-in for the CIA).

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* A German version of this trope also exists: The ''[[GermanTVStations ''[[UsefulNotes/GermanTVStations KiKa]]'' teen drama ''Series/AlleinGegenDieZeit'' features two BKA officers (Bundeskriminalamt - Federal Criminal Police Office - pretty much a German FBI) rescuing top-secret documents from the Ministry of the Interior's archives from two shadowy figures. They later get suspected of being part of the conspiracy when it turns out they just stole files from investigating BND agents (Bundesnachrichtendienst - Federal Intelligence Service - a stand-in for the CIA).
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