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24th Nov '16 8:32:24 PM Odacon_Spy
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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': The FIB and IAA (the In-Universe stand-ins for the FBI and CIA, respectively) are both portrayed as corrupt organizations and are engaged in perhaps the most irresponsible inter-service rivalry in the history of fiction. The FIB forces the protagonists to commit various crimes that result in untold mayhem and destruction to thwart a plot by the IAA to allow a terrorist attack on US soil so they can get more funding to prevent terrorist attacks, though it should be noted that aside from their willingness to use the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique, which the FIB tops with ColdBloodedTorture, the only evidence we really have for IAA wrongdoing comes from the mouths of the very corrupt FIB agents that are working against them.

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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': The FIB and IAA (the In-Universe stand-ins for the FBI and CIA, respectively) are both portrayed as corrupt organizations and are engaged in perhaps the most irresponsible inter-service rivalry in the history of fiction. The FIB [[BoxedCrook forces the protagonists protagonists]] to commit various crimes that result in untold mayhem and destruction to thwart a plot by the IAA to allow a terrorist attack on US soil so they can get more funding to prevent terrorist attacks, though it should be noted that aside from their willingness to use the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique, which the FIB tops with ColdBloodedTorture, the only evidence we really have for IAA wrongdoing comes from the mouths of the very corrupt FIB agents that are working against them.
24th Nov '16 8:31:12 PM Odacon_Spy
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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': The FIB and IAA(the inuniverse stand-ins for the FBI and CIA respectively) are both portrayed as corrupt organizations with perhaps the most irresponsible inter-service rivalry in the history of fiction. The FIB forces the protagonists to commit various crimes that result in untold mayhem and destruction to thwart a plot by the IAA to allow a terrorist attack on US soil so they can get more funding to prevent terrorist attacks, though it should be noted that aside from their willingness to use the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique, which the FIB tops with ColdBloodedTorture, the only evidence we really have for IAA wrongdoing comes from the mouths of the very corrupt FIB agents that are working against them.

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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': The FIB and IAA(the inuniverse IAA (the In-Universe stand-ins for the FBI and CIA CIA, respectively) are both portrayed as corrupt organizations with and are engaged in perhaps the most irresponsible inter-service rivalry in the history of fiction. The FIB forces the protagonists to commit various crimes that result in untold mayhem and destruction to thwart a plot by the IAA to allow a terrorist attack on US soil so they can get more funding to prevent terrorist attacks, though it should be noted that aside from their willingness to use the JackBauerInterrogationTechnique, which the FIB tops with ColdBloodedTorture, the only evidence we really have for IAA wrongdoing comes from the mouths of the very corrupt FIB agents that are working against them.
23rd Nov '16 1:50:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the short-lived CBS spy dramedy ''CHAOS'', the heroes are CIA agents. Although they're portrayed as being at odds with the higher-ups in the agency, it's because their unorthodox tactics don't sit well with their by-the-book superiors, who view them as loose cannons.

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* In the short-lived CBS spy dramedy ''CHAOS'', ''Series/{{CHAOS}}'', the heroes are CIA agents. Although they're portrayed as being at odds with the higher-ups in the agency, it's because their unorthodox tactics don't sit well with their by-the-book superiors, who view them as loose cannons.



* In ''{{Homeland}}'' it's more like CIA Good, FBI Incompetent, as they are shown to be overly gung-ho, racist, and otherwise sloppy in doing their jobs compared to the Company protagonists of the show.

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* In ''{{Homeland}}'' ''Series/{{Homeland}}'' it's more like CIA Good, FBI Incompetent, as they are shown to be overly gung-ho, racist, and otherwise sloppy in doing their jobs compared to the Company protagonists of the show.
17th Oct '16 8:23:35 PM siberia82
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* ''Film/XMen'':

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* ''Film/XMen'':''Film/XMenFilmSeries'':
11th Oct '16 2:33:36 PM siberia82
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* The CIA in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' isn't exactly evil, although most of its members certainly acted like {{Jerkass}}es.

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* ''Film/XMen'':
** ''Film/XMenFirstClass'':
The CIA in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' isn't exactly evil, although most of its members certainly acted like {{Jerkass}}es.{{Jerkass}}es.
** ''Film/XMenApocalypse'': Invoked by Agent [=MacTaggert=] and Xavier when she marvels at the Cerebro supercomputer.
--->'''Moira''': The CIA would kill for this.\\
'''Charles''': I know they would.
10th Oct '16 7:58:22 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* In the ''Film/Transformers'' series, FBI agent Simmons of Sector Seven starts out a morally ambiguous, but humorous, character. This eventually culminates in a heroic figure in the second and third movies.

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* In the ''Film/Transformers'' ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' series, FBI agent Simmons of Sector Seven starts out a morally ambiguous, but humorous, character. This eventually culminates in a heroic figure in the second and third movies.
23rd Aug '16 4:33:03 PM tsstevens
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* ''Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex'' gives us CIA agents who carried out terrorist operations which involved hiring soldiers skinning women and children alive, to break the will of the enemy. One such operative was so horrified by what he had done he takes his war to Tokyo where he does the same thing to make the government give up, while harboring a death wish. This suits the CIA just fine, they were perfectly happy to have him killed and are actually angry about him being taken alive.
21st Aug '16 9:51:04 AM Hanz
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* The plot of ''Videogame/{{Yakuza}} 3'' deals with a rogue CIA cell that turns out to be a terrorist cell.
13th Aug '16 12:29:14 PM maxwellsilver
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Expect lots of InterserviceRivalry and JurisdictionFriction should they run into each other, ''especially'' if they are WorkingTheSameCase. If the FBI are the bad guys, expect the good guys to be salt-of-the-earth [[ByTheBookCop honest flatfoot coppers]]; for the CIA to be good guys they'd have to be up against the [[GovernmentConspiracy even shadowier]] [[TheMenInBlack NSA]]. [[BlackAndGreyMorality Or actual bad guys, of course.]]

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Expect lots of InterserviceRivalry and JurisdictionFriction should they run into each other, ''especially'' if they are WorkingTheSameCase. If the FBI are the bad guys, expect the good guys to be salt-of-the-earth [[ByTheBookCop honest flatfoot coppers]]; coppers; for the CIA to be good guys they'd have to be up against the [[GovernmentConspiracy even shadowier]] [[TheMenInBlack NSA]]. [[BlackAndGreyMorality shadowier NSA. Or actual bad guys, of course.]]
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There is some overlap however, with the abuses of the longtime FBI head, J.Edgar Hoover, being exposed. The reports of him blackmailing politicians, persecuting political dissidents like MartinLutherKingJr, falsely claiming Ma Barker was a crime boss to excuse killing her in the crossfire of a shootout with the Barker Gang, ruining the lives of competent agents like Melvin Purvis so he could claim all the credit of their work for himself, as well as allegations such as being blackmailed by the mob for being a transvestite have done much to blacken the name of the FBI under his tenure. Now, the image of the FBI is about stressing how they have moved beyond the legacy of that hypocritical bully...which isn't helped by the fact that their headquarters still bears Hoover's name.

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There is some overlap however, with the abuses of the longtime FBI head, J.Edgar Hoover, being exposed. The reports of him blackmailing politicians, persecuting political dissidents like MartinLutherKingJr, UsefulNotes/MartinLutherKingJr, falsely claiming Ma Barker was a crime boss to excuse killing her in the crossfire of a shootout with the Barker Gang, ruining the lives of competent agents like Melvin Purvis so he could claim all the credit of their work for himself, as well as allegations such as being blackmailed by the mob for being a transvestite have done much to blacken the name of the FBI under his tenure. Now, the image of the FBI is about stressing how they have moved beyond the legacy of that hypocritical bully...which isn't helped by the fact that their headquarters still bears Hoover's name.
11th Aug '16 11:29:42 PM TSBasilisk
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* In ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' several CIA agents are eventually found to be corrupt and often involved in the current case. This includes producing the Port-to-Port Killer with an assassin training program; [[SmugSnake Ray Cruz]] who abducted and tortured a military officer so he could sell classified information on the black market; and Trent Kort, who was generally reviled but managed to just barely keep his nose clean [[spoiler:until he killed Ziva trying to cover up his part in selling secrets]].
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