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27th Mar '17 2:49:19 AM LondonKdS
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It's worth noting that this kind of public perception is almost completely a US phenomenon without equivalents in other countries, due to the FBI's unusual role as both a day-to-day police force and a semi-covert counter-espionage and state security organisation. For example, in the UK the counter-espionage and state security organisation MI-5 is almost always depicted in fiction, and popularly viewed in real life, as at best utterly ruthless people whose actions might '''just possibly''' be justified and at worst the Conservative Party's private goon squad.

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It's worth noting that this kind of public perception is almost completely a US phenomenon without equivalents in other countries, due to the FBI's unusual role as both a day-to-day police force and a semi-covert counter-espionage and state security organisation. For example, in the UK the counter-espionage and state security organisation MI-5 is almost always depicted in fiction, and popularly viewed in real life, as at best utterly ruthless people whose actions might '''just possibly''' be justified and at worst the Conservative Party's private goon squad.squad, while the foreign espionage organisation MI-6 tend to be viewed as slightly more heroic.
25th Mar '17 5:16:26 PM nombretomado
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* Played with in ''Film/MercuryRising''. The film skips the CIA middlemen, pitting BruceWillis as [[CowboyCop rogue FBI Agent]] Jeffries against the NSA (though they are at least portrayed as dealing with cryptography). Ultimately, Jeffries manages to convince his colleagues of the NSA conspiracy, and the circumstances flip flop - the full might of the FBI is brought down on a rogue element within the NSA.

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* Played with in ''Film/MercuryRising''. The film skips the CIA middlemen, pitting BruceWillis Creator/BruceWillis as [[CowboyCop rogue FBI Agent]] Jeffries against the NSA (though they are at least portrayed as dealing with cryptography). Ultimately, Jeffries manages to convince his colleagues of the NSA conspiracy, and the circumstances flip flop - the full might of the FBI is brought down on a rogue element within the NSA.
22nd Mar '17 3:51:37 AM LondonKdS
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It's worth noting that this kind of public perception is almost completely a US phenomenon without equivalents in other countries, due to the FBI's unusual role as both a day-to-day police force and a semi-covert counter-espionage and state security organisation. For example, in the UK the counter-espionage and state security organisation MI-5 is almost always depicted in fiction, and popularly viewed in real life, as at best utterly ruthless people whose actions might '''just possibly''' be justified and at worst the Conservative Party's private goon squad.
1st Mar '17 2:44:30 PM Laqueesha
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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' features a military version of this trope. The U.S. Coast Guard are portrayed as noble and heroic gentlemen, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as bellicose jerks and buffoonish alcoholics.

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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' features a military version of this trope. The U.S. Coast Guard are is portrayed as noble and heroic gentlemen, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as bellicose jerks and buffoonish alcoholics.
1st Mar '17 2:44:13 PM Laqueesha
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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' features a military version of this trope. The U.S. Coast Guard are portrayed as noble and heroic, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as buffoonish jerks and alcoholics.

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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' features a military version of this trope. The U.S. Coast Guard are portrayed as noble and heroic, heroic gentlemen, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as bellicose jerks and buffoonish jerks and alcoholics.
1st Mar '17 2:40:14 PM Laqueesha
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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' features a military version of this trope. The U.S. Coast Guard are portrayed as noble and heroic, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as buffoonish jerks and alcoholics.
1st Mar '17 2:38:09 PM Laqueesha
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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' uses a military version of this. The U.S. Coast Guard are portrayed as noble and heroic, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as jerks.
1st Mar '17 2:37:44 PM Laqueesha
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* ''Film/TheGuardian'' uses a military version of this. The U.S. Coast Guard are portrayed as noble and heroic, whereas the U.S. Navy is portrayed as jerks.
28th Feb '17 9:48:44 AM AgProv
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* In ''Series/{{MASH}}'', the part-sinister part-ludicrous Colonel Flagg is a "secret military policeman" belonging to the OSS, the immediate predecessor of the CIA.
27th Jan '17 5:24:25 PM Lanthorn
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* In ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' several CIA agents are eventually found to be corrupt and often involved in the current case. This includes producing the Port-to-Port Killer with an assassin training program; [[SmugSnake Ray Cruz]] who abducted and tortured a military officer so he could sell classified information on the black market; and Trent Kort, who was generally reviled but managed to just barely keep his nose clean [[spoiler:until he killed Ziva trying to cover up his part in selling secrets]].

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* In ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' several CIA agents are eventually found to be corrupt and often involved in the current case. This includes producing the Port-to-Port Killer with an assassin training program; [[SmugSnake Ray Cruz]] who abducted and tortured a military officer so he could sell classified information on the black market; and Trent Kort, who was generally reviled but managed to just barely keep his nose clean [[spoiler:until he killed Ziva trying to cover up his part in selling secrets]].secrets (he claims he didn't mean to and the guy he hired went too far, but the deed was done)]].
* ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'': [[spoiler: The CIA appears to be behind the series' latest and most serious mole, getting almost the whole team framed by different agencies in "Hot Water": Director Granger by the LAPD (assaulting a woman who happens to be the mole's operative, who later reveals she's being controlled by the CIA), Deeks by LAPD IAB (he really did do something wrong for the right reasons but there's no proof), Hanna by the DEA (dead body and drugs), Callen by the ATFE (dead body and explosives), and the remaining team members by FBI/SWAT (undetermined).]]
* ''Series/NCISNewOrleans'': A rogue CIA agent [[spoiler: smuggled a war criminal into New Orleans who went on a killing spree when his identity was being investigated]]. Another CIA agent [[spoiler: pinned a plane crash on the only Arab-American on board to cover up that they secretly smuggled in a Colombian cartel witness]] -- not ''evil'' but definitely not good either.



* Seeley Booth of ''Series/{{Bones}}'' fame is an FBI agent who solves murders and is most definitly a good guy.

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* Seeley Booth of ''Series/{{Bones}}'' fame is an FBI agent who solves murders and is most definitly definitely a good guy.


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* ''Series/NCISNewOrleans'': The FBI can be very, ''very'' uptight jerkasses but their hearts are in the right place.
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