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* ''Literature/GoSetAWatchman'', the first draft to ''Literature/ToKillAMockingbird'', has been mistaken for a sequel by millions of readers -- partly because it takes place years after TKAM so Scout is an adult returning to Maycomb.[[note]]Harper Lee's publisher told her that the flashback sequences to Scout's childhood were best, and had her write the entire book from that perspective. Lee drastically revised the characters and incidents in the process.[[/note]] This initial draft reveals [[spoiler:Atticus Finch -- who was famously portrayed in TKAM as a kind, compassionate, racially-colorblind soul -- was originally written as insanely bigoted against black people all along, even ''attending a KKK meeting''. The now-grown Scout doesn't take it well]].



* The main character is this for a whole lot of people in ''Literature/TheDeathOfTheVazirMukhtar'', as he seems to have made a complete FaceHeelTurn from writing an incisive social satire to seemingly becoming one of the characters he has satirised. He realizes this too, though it's technically all rather more complex than that.
* In Kai Meyer's ''Die Seiten der Welt'', the heroine Furia finds a true soulmate in a young boy Severin who lives two hundred years earlier, as they are able to communicate with the help of a magical book. [[spoiler:Then she finds out that it was him in the adulthood who caused her family's downfall and exile. Plus a war between fractions of book mages. Moreover, Furia's father was murdered and the girl and her brother barely escaped only because of the plotting of Severin's spurned lover – the latter was insanely jealous since Severin has never truly gotten over Furia. When the girl finally meets her former crush in person (elderly and broken), she is, to put it mildly, not enthusiastic]].
* The writer and protagonist of Dante's ''[[Literature/TheDivineComedy Divine Comedy]]'' considers the man who taught him poetry a second father, which made meeting him in {{Hell}} all the worse. Dante doesn't much inquire into why Brunetto Latini is damned, seemingly too scared of what he may find out, and acts more affectionately to him than any other character in the ''Inferno''. It takes some time, but Dante realizes Latini was too focused on worldly fame and not on finding life in {{God}}'s joy.



* The Amazing Indestructo in the ''[[Literature/TheExtraordinaryAdventuresOfOrdinaryBoy The Extraordinary Adventures of Ordinary Boy]]'' series is the most popular superhero in Superopolis, the leader of the League of Ultimate Goodness, and admired by the title character. The main characters later discover that The Amazing Indestructo is a [[DirtyCoward cowardly]], [[ItsAllAboutMe egotistical]] {{Jerkass}} who doesn't particularly care about his teammates on the LUG - he deliberately chose people with [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway weak powers]] to make himself look better, and kicked out the original, more competent membership. He also isn't above making merchandising deals with supervillains to benefit himself. Ordinary Boy loses all respect for him immediately. His own team [[LaserGuidedKarma abandons him]] later in the series when they realize this, too.
* A gradual thing in ''[[Literature/SpaceMarineBattles Fall of Damnos]]'', but the longer Praxor - a supporter, if not believer in Cato Sicarius - spends with his idol, the more he sees that Sicarius is not TheGoodCaptain, but a GloryHound.
* Jason Black to Hayleigh Griffin in ''Literature/{{Fat}}''. Hayleigh is harbouring a massive crush on Jason, based on tv interviews, his music and magazines for teenage girls. Jeremy arranges for them to meet while she's in the hospital. Unfortunately, Jason is coked up to the eyeballs the entire time and hasn't washed in at least a week. This freaks Hayleigh out somewhat, but is actually the turning point for her, as getting over her crush on Jason is what triggers her recovery.



* In ''Literature/TheGiver'', [[spoiler:Jonas's parents are this to Jonas. It's especially so for the father after Jonas saw a recording of the former "[[ReleasedToElsewhere releasing]]" a twin baby. In the sequels Jonas does not even refer to them as his parents anymore, instead calling them "the people who raised him."]]
* ''Literature/GoSetAWatchman'', the first draft to ''Literature/ToKillAMockingbird'', has been mistaken for a sequel by millions of readers -- partly because it takes place years after TKAM so Scout is an adult returning to Maycomb.[[note]]Harper Lee's publisher told her that the flashback sequences to Scout's childhood were best, and had her write the entire book from that perspective. Lee drastically revised the characters and incidents in the process.[[/note]] This initial draft reveals [[spoiler:Atticus Finch -- who was famously portrayed in TKAM as a kind, compassionate, racially-colorblind soul -- was originally written as insanely bigoted against black people all along, even ''attending a KKK meeting''. The now-grown Scout doesn't take it well]].



* In ''Literature/HeroWorship'', Marvin idolizes The Core and his goal in life is to be able to use his powers to help them defend the city. After he meets Eliza, and she starts to introduce him to what they're actually like, the pedestal starts to crack. They're not bad people, but they're cynical and deal with the stress of the job with hedonism and drugs, and [[spoiler:they've been forced to fund themselves by seizing drugs from the criminals and reselling them themselves]].
* Subverted in ''The High King'', the final book of ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'', when Taran is horrified by [[strike:Prince]] King Gwydion inviting him to share in the treasures of Annuvin. [[spoiler:Luckily, a tiny GlamourFailure is enough to make Taran quickly realize that it's not really Gwydion but Arawn Death-Lord in disguise.]]
* ''Literature/TheIncredibleWorldsOfWallyMcDoogle'': In the twelfth book, ''My Life as a Bigfoot Breath Mint'', Wally goes to California and meets his Uncle Max, a famous stuntman. At first, Max seems like the cool guy everyone (including Wally) thinks he is. As the book goes on, though, it becomes clear that Max is just a shallow, selfish scumbag who only lives and cares for himself (and is a target of loan sharks), to the point that he [[DirtyCoward leaves Wally to drown in a flooded stadium just to save his own skin]], and then tells the media that he saved Wally when it was actually Wally's dad who risked his life to save Wally. Needless to say, Wally isn't happy when this happens.
* ''Literature/JoePickett'': In ''Open Season'', Joe's former mentor turns out to be in bed with a CorruptCorporateExecutive and conspires to wipe a population of an endangered species. This escalates to murder, and he even attempts to kill Joe's wife Marybeth.
* In Creator/JohnBrunner's ''Galactic Consumer Reports No. 1: Inexpensive Time Machines'', the titular devices have restrictions on what eras one can travel. As the report states, it's not a matter of messing up with history - there is a TimePolice from the 11th millennium which handles this far better than any built-in safeguards can. It's a matter of avoiding a BrokenPedestal, so a Jew, for example, can set his machine to avoid accidentally seeing what really happened on Mount Sinai.
* ''[[Literature/AMagesPower A Mage's Power]]'': Eric idolized Dengel ever since he read the ancient mage's book, "The Spirit and It's Power". After he becomes a HeroicHost for Dengel, he exclaims that he keeps that book on his bed side table. [[spoiler:Then he pulls a GrandTheftMe and Eric realizes that he's a treacherous and power hungry opportunist.]]
* ''[[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus The Mark of Athena]]''
** Minor, but present in , of the [[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus Heroes of Olympus]] series. Hazel, who looked up to Jason as a fair and capable leader, is enraged when he votes [[spoiler:against rescuing her kidnapped brother Nico]] because he thought his behavior suspicious. [[spoiler:Everything is soon settled.]]
** Later, Jason and Piper encounter Hercules, who seems a decent guy at first, but soon turns out to be a world-class jerk. Piper calls him out on it. Hercules' pedestal has in fact been crumbling since ''[[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians The Titan's Curse]]'' when Percy realized that Hercules was the one who betrayed Zoe Nightshade and ruined her life.
* In ''Literature/MartinTheWarrior'': Felldoh was a slave all his life, Brome completely innocent towards the evil in the world looked up to Felldoh as an older brother and a badass. Yet as the story goes on, Felldoh becomes darker and obsessed with killing in his quest for revenge against the slavers. To the point where Brome didn't even know who he was anymore, he hated what Felldoh became to the point where he vowed to be as un-Felldoh-ish as possible by becoming a complete pacifist.



* ''Literature/PegasusInFlight'' has a minor example, but still depressing: while they're searching for Tirla, Carmen starts to build up an idea of her as a strong, smart and talented runaway, but who is also an innocent who needs their help. When they meet, Tirla's callousness about the horrible situation the kids she rescued are in makes Carmen quite dismayed.
* In ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'', King Jonathan breaks his pedestal for Keladry when he accedes to Lord Wyldon's demand that she be admitted as a ''probationary'' page, despite the fact that there was no such provision attached to the law allowing girls to train for knighthood when it was signed ten years ago.[[note]]Keladry is the first girl to try.[[/note]] It gets worse when she learns that he stopped his daughter from becoming a page, making Keladry one of the few female [[Literature/TortallUniverse Tortallan]] characters who never loves King Jon. (Later she comes to understand the political necessity of such decisions, but that doesn't mean she likes it.)
* Occurs to Gideon Literature/{{Ravenor}} between him and his mentor/father figure, Gregor Eisenhorn. Both Inquisitors start out their respective series as staunchly Puritanical in their outlook and through adversity both are required to perform increasingly Radical acts in order to win the day. In his own trilogy Eisenhorn willingly goes far, far further into heresy than Ravenor is ever forced to, and significant parts of Ravenor's trilogy--plus the continuing Bequin Trilogy by author Creator/DanAbnett - deals with the younger Inquisitor atoning for his own actions while trying to rationalise and then eventually condemn his mentor for his.
* In ''Literature/TheSecretHistory'', Julian Morrow's students look upon him as a divinity. By the end of the book, however, Richard sees his characteristic warmth and kindness as a mask for his essential lack of concern for his students or insight into their lives.



* In ''Literature/TheSecretHistory'', Julian Morrow's students look upon him as a divinity. By the end of the book, however, Richard sees his characteristic warmth and kindness as a mask for his essential lack of concern for his students or insight into their lives.
* A gradual thing in ''[[Literature/SpaceMarineBattles Fall of Damnos]]'', but the longer Praxor - a supporter, if not believer in Cato Sicarius - spends with his idol, the more he sees that Sicarius is not TheGoodCaptain, but a GloryHound.
* The main character is this for a whole lot of people in ''Literature/TheDeathOfTheVazirMukhtar'', as he seems to have made a complete FaceHeelTurn from writing an incisive social satire to seemingly becoming one of the characters he has satirised. He realizes this too, though it's technically all rather more complex than that.
* ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** Miles Vorkosigan and Elena Bothari learning about [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari's mental instability and the atrocities he committed while working for Admiral Vorrutyer]] in ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice''.
** Emperor Gregor's depression and self-destructive behavior in ''Literature/TheVorGame'' when he first learns that his father Prince Serg wasn't the hero Barrayaran history makes him out to be, but rather whose death in a botched invasion was the best thing that could have happened to Barrayar.
** The series also features a major inversion. Mark had been made to believe in his parents'[[note]]The parents of the person from whom he was cloned, to be precise-- in-universe, at least on the mother's home planet of Beta Colony, it's considered the same thing[[/note]] alleged tyranny. (His father is ''undeservedly'' known far and wide as "TheButcher of Komarr.") Then he meets Aral and Cordelia and they're kind, loving, genuinely good people rather than what he's been led to expect. Because he'd built so much of his identity on opposing their supposed evil, the shattering effect on his worldview is just as severe as if the trope had been played straight.
* In the early ''Literature/{{Sweep}}'' books, Morgan looks up to Selene Belltower after she discovers she's a witch, admiring her power, her reputation, even the way she makes her own essential oils (for spell ingredients). Then Morgan discovers what Selene really wants from her...
* Subverted in ''The High King'', the final book of ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'', when Taran is horrified by [[strike:Prince]] King Gwydion inviting him to share in the treasures of Annuvin. [[spoiler:Luckily, a tiny GlamourFailure is enough to make Taran quickly realize that it's not really Gwydion but Arawn Death-Lord in disguise.]]
* ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': After spending all the novel swimming in StockholmSyndrome for Captain Nemo, Aronnax has seen him crossing the MoralEventHorizon by a terrible KickTheDog moment. And yet...
-->''I returned to the saloon, fearing and yet hoping to see Captain Nemo, wishing and yet not wishing to see him. What could I have said to him? Could I hide the involuntary horror with which he inspired me? No. It was better that I should not meet him face to face; better to forget him. And yet—''
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: Played as straight as an arrow with Henry "Hank" Jellicoe, owner of Global Securities. In ''Game Over'', the Vigilantes and the Big Five, particularly Charles Martin, look up to Hank and think he's the best there is. ''Cross Roads'' ends up having them lose their respect for the guy, and Charles was just upset that his friend could possibly pull a FaceHeelTurn. ''Deja Vu'' goes further and makes it clear that Hank was EvilAllAlong, and that it's only now that the disguise has worn thin, and nobody can deny it any longer.
* Jason Black to Hayleigh Griffin in ''Literature/{{Fat}}''. Hayleigh is harbouring a massive crush on Jason, based on tv interviews, his music and magazines for teenage girls. Jeremy arranges for them to meet while she's in the hospital. Unfortunately, Jason is coked up to the eyeballs the entire time and hasn't washed in at least a week. This freaks Hayleigh out somewhat, but is actually the turning point for her, as getting over her crush on Jason is what triggers her recovery.

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* In ''Literature/TheSecretHistory'', Julian Morrow's students look upon him as a divinity. By the end of the book, however, Richard sees his characteristic warmth and kindness as a mask for his essential lack of concern for his students or insight into their lives.
* A gradual thing in ''[[Literature/SpaceMarineBattles Fall of Damnos]]'', but the longer Praxor - a supporter, if not believer in Cato Sicarius - spends with his idol, the more he sees that Sicarius
''Literature/SevenDaysInMay'', Colonel Martin "Jiggs" Casey is not TheGoodCaptain, but a GloryHound.
* The main character is this for a whole lot of people in ''Literature/TheDeathOfTheVazirMukhtar'', as he seems to have made a complete FaceHeelTurn from writing an incisive social satire to seemingly becoming one of the characters he has satirised. He realizes this too, though it's technically all rather more complex than that.
* ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** Miles Vorkosigan and Elena Bothari learning about [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari's mental instability and the atrocities he committed while working for Admiral Vorrutyer]] in ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice''.
** Emperor Gregor's depression and self-destructive behavior in ''Literature/TheVorGame'' when he first learns
Marine who finds out that his father Prince Serg wasn't CO, General James Scott, is heading a conspiracy to initiate a MilitaryCoup and overthrow the hero Barrayaran history makes him out to be, but rather whose death in a botched invasion was the best thing that could have happened to Barrayar.
** The series
President. In TheFilmOfTheBook, Casey also features gets a major inversion. Mark had been made to believe in nice ShutUpHannibal moment when General Scott demands "Are you familiar with who Judas was?" when his parents'[[note]]The parents part of the person from whom he conspiracy is unmasked:
-->"Yes, I know who Judas was. He
was cloned, to be precise-- in-universe, at least on a man I worked for and admired until he disgraced the mother's home planet of Beta Colony, it's considered the same thing[[/note]] alleged tyranny. (His father is ''undeservedly'' known far and wide as "TheButcher of Komarr.") Then he meets Aral and Cordelia and they're kind, loving, genuinely good people rather than what he's been led to expect. Because he'd built so much of his identity on opposing their supposed evil, the shattering effect four stars on his worldview is just as severe as if the trope had been played straight.
uniform."
* In the early ''Literature/{{Sweep}}'' books, Morgan looks up to Selene Belltower after she discovers she's a witch, admiring her power, her reputation, even the way she makes her own essential oils (for spell ingredients). Then Morgan discovers what Selene really wants from her...
* Subverted in ''The High King'', the final book of ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain'', when Taran is horrified by [[strike:Prince]] King Gwydion inviting him to share in the treasures of Annuvin. [[spoiler:Luckily, a tiny GlamourFailure is enough to make Taran quickly realize that it's not really Gwydion but Arawn Death-Lord in disguise.]]
* ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': After spending all the novel swimming in StockholmSyndrome for Captain Nemo, Aronnax has seen him crossing the MoralEventHorizon by a terrible KickTheDog moment. And yet...
-->''I returned to the saloon, fearing and yet hoping to see Captain Nemo, wishing and yet not wishing to see him. What could I have said to him? Could I hide the involuntary horror with which he inspired me? No. It was better that I should not meet him face to face; better to forget him. And yet—''
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries
''Literature/SisterhoodSeries'' by Creator/FernMichaels: Played as straight as an arrow with Henry "Hank" Jellicoe, owner of Global Securities. In ''Game Over'', the Vigilantes and the Big Five, particularly Charles Martin, look up to Hank and think he's the best there is. ''Cross Roads'' ends up having them lose their respect for the guy, and Charles was just upset that his friend could possibly pull a FaceHeelTurn. ''Deja Vu'' goes further and makes it clear that Hank was EvilAllAlong, and that it's only now that the disguise has worn thin, and nobody can deny it any longer.
* Jason Black to Hayleigh Griffin in ''Literature/{{Fat}}''. Hayleigh is harbouring a massive crush on Jason, based on tv interviews, his music and magazines for teenage girls. Jeremy arranges for them to meet while she's in the hospital. Unfortunately, Jason is coked up to the eyeballs the entire time and hasn't washed in at least a week. This freaks Hayleigh out somewhat, but is actually the turning point for her, as getting over her crush on Jason is what triggers her recovery.
longer.



* Minor, but present in ''The Mark of Athena'', of the [[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus Heroes of Olympus]] series. Hazel, who looked up to Jason as a fair and capable leader, is enraged when he votes [[spoiler:against rescuing her kidnapped brother Nico]] because he thought his behavior suspicious. [[spoiler:Everything is soon settled.]]
** Later in that same book Jason and Piper encounter Hercules, who seems a decent guy at first, but soon turns out to be a world-class jerk. Piper calls him out on it. Hercules' pedestal has in fact been crumbling since ''[[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians The Titan's Curse]]'' when Percy realized that Hercules was the one who betrayed Zoe Nightshade and ruined her life.

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* Minor, but present in In the early ''Literature/{{Sweep}}'' books, Morgan looks up to Selene Belltower after she discovers she's a witch, admiring her power, her reputation, even the way she makes her own essential oils (for spell ingredients). Then Morgan discovers what Selene really wants from her...
* Literature/TanteiTeamKZJikenNote series:
** Aya's first impression with Wakatake, Kuroki and Uesugi falls into this. Aya, like all other schoolgirl, admires them as members of [[AcademicAthlete Soccer Team KZ]], and would want to be friends with them. But one day after school, Wakatake {{crash|intohello}}ing his bike on Aya, with Uesugi and Kuroki stopping by. First, Wakatake [[InnocentlyInsensitive calls Aya a "moving mailbox."]] And then Kuroki [[HandsomeLech greets Aya as if he is picking her up]]. This followed by Uesugi [[FourEyesZeroSoul coldly commented Kuroki for "hitting on a girl again."]] Understandably, it's hardly a very good first impression for her. Although her opinions on the boys were rebuilt after spending more time with them.
--->'''Aya''': My admiration for KZ had just crumbled spectacularly.
** In
''The Mark of Athena'', Youkai Computer Knows'', Nanaki's computer mentor pretty much made Nanaki's computer system her botnet. Nanaki was extreme distressed at this development.
* ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': After spending all the novel swimming in StockholmSyndrome for Captain Nemo, Aronnax has seen him crossing the MoralEventHorizon by a terrible KickTheDog moment. And yet...
-->''I returned to the saloon, fearing and yet hoping to see Captain Nemo, wishing and yet not wishing to see him. What could I have said to him? Could I hide the involuntary horror with which he inspired me? No. It was better that I should not meet him face to face; better to forget him. And yet—''
* In ''Literature/{{Uprooted}}'', Agnieszka is thrilled to hear that Prince Marek is visiting the Dragon's tower. He's a well-known hero who not only battles the malevolent creatures
of the [[Literature/TheHeroesOfOlympus Heroes of Olympus]] series. Hazel, who looked up to Jason as Wood without fear, but has a fair reputation for treating peasants fairly, and capable leader, is enraged when he votes [[spoiler:against rescuing she hopes he'll help her kidnapped brother Nico]] escape. When he arrives, one of the first things he does is attempt to rape her because he thought thinks he's spooking the Dragon. (She uses magic to get away and then beats him nearly to death with a metal tray.) It becomes clear from that point on that Marek is quite a nasty individual, and some of his monster-slaying tales are exaggerated to boot.
* Lissa Dragomir from ''Literature/VampireAcademy'' idolizes her loving brother Andre following his death. She learns after his death that he was a casanova who mistreated non-royal Moroi girls. She is thoroughly disappointed and crushed at the revelation, and finds it hard to accept that side of her brother. She also always believed that her father Eric was a good guy, so [[spoiler:she's very upset to learn that he cheated on her mother once]].
* ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** Miles Vorkosigan and Elena Bothari learning about [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari's mental instability and the atrocities he committed while working for Admiral Vorrutyer]] in ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice''.
** Emperor Gregor's depression and self-destructive
behavior suspicious. [[spoiler:Everything is soon settled.]]
** Later
in ''Literature/TheVorGame'' when he first learns that same book Jason and Piper encounter Hercules, who seems a decent guy at first, but soon turns out to be a world-class jerk. Piper calls his father Prince Serg wasn't the hero Barrayaran history makes him out on it. Hercules' pedestal has to be, but rather whose death in fact been crumbling since ''[[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians The Titan's Curse]]'' when Percy realized that Hercules a botched invasion was the one who betrayed Zoe Nightshade best thing that could have happened to Barrayar.
** The series also features a major inversion. Mark had been made to believe in his parents'[[note]]The parents of the person from whom he was cloned, to be precise-- in-universe, at least on the mother's home planet of Beta Colony, it's considered the same thing[[/note]] alleged tyranny. (His father is ''undeservedly'' known far
and ruined her life. wide as "TheButcher of Komarr.") Then he meets Aral and Cordelia and they're kind, loving, genuinely good people rather than what he's been led to expect. Because he'd built so much of his identity on opposing their supposed evil, the shattering effect on his worldview is just as severe as if the trope had been played straight.



* In ''Literature/SevenDaysInMay'', Colonel Martin "Jiggs" Casey is a Marine who finds out that his CO, General James Scott, is heading a conspiracy to initiate a MilitaryCoup and overthrow the President. In TheFilmOfTheBook, Casey also gets a nice ShutUpHannibal moment when General Scott demands "Are you familiar with who Judas was?" when his part of the conspiracy is unmasked:
-->"Yes, I know who Judas was. He was a man I worked for and admired until he disgraced the four stars on his uniform."
* In ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'', King Jonathan breaks his pedestal for Keladry when he accedes to Lord Wyldon's demand that she be admitted as a ''probationary'' page, despite the fact that there was no such provision attached to the law allowing girls to train for knighthood when it was signed ten years ago.[[note]]Keladry is the first girl to try.[[/note]] It gets worse when she learns that he stopped his daughter from becoming a page, making Keladry one of the few female [[Literature/TortallUniverse Tortallan]] characters who never loves King Jon. (Later she comes to understand the political necessity of such decisions, but that doesn't mean she likes it.)

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* In ''Literature/SevenDaysInMay'', Colonel Martin "Jiggs" Casey is ''Literature/TheWayOfKings'' (first book of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''): Kaladin respects Highmarshal Amaram as the only "true" [[BlueBlood lighteyes]], a Marine noble general like the stories, who finds out that has done everything in his CO, General James Scott, is heading a conspiracy power to initiate a MilitaryCoup give Kaladin and overthrow his brother a fair chance. [[spoiler:Then Amaram murders Kaladin's squad and brands Kaladin a slave in order to steal the President. In TheFilmOfTheBook, Casey also gets a nice ShutUpHannibal moment when General Scott demands "Are you familiar [[SoulCuttingBlade Shardblade]] Kaladin had just won]], and Amaram becomes Kaladin's symbol of everything wrong with who Judas was?" when his part of the conspiracy is unmasked:
-->"Yes, I know who Judas was.
world. He was a man I worked for and admired until he disgraced the four stars literally dreams of murdering him on his uniform."
* In ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'', King Jonathan breaks his pedestal for Keladry when he accedes to Lord Wyldon's demand that she be admitted as a ''probationary'' page, despite the fact that there was no such provision attached to the law allowing girls to train for knighthood when it was signed ten years ago.[[note]]Keladry is the first girl to try.[[/note]] It gets worse when she learns that he stopped his daughter from becoming a page, making Keladry one of the few female [[Literature/TortallUniverse Tortallan]] characters who never loves King Jon. (Later she comes to understand the political necessity of such decisions, but that doesn't mean she likes it.)
multiple occasions.



* Averted in ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' THE HERO OF THE IMPERIUM. Cain's actions continue to make him a galactic hero, despite each of them being motivated by cowardice and self-preservation. The only people who ever saw through it are an Inquisitor, who doesn't mind, and possibly a commissar cadet who dies anyway.
* Occurs to Gideon Literature/{{Ravenor}} between him and his mentor/father figure, Gregor Eisenhorn. Both Inquisitors start out their respective series as staunchly Puritanical in their outlook and through adversity both are required to perform increasingly Radical acts in order to win the day. In his own trilogy Eisenhorn willingly goes far, far further into heresy than Ravenor is ever forced to, and significant parts of Ravenor's trilogy--plus the continuing Bequin Trilogy by author Creator/DanAbnett - deals with the younger Inquisitor atoning for his own actions while trying to rationalise and then eventually condemn his mentor for his.
* In ''Literature/MartinTheWarrior'': Felldoh was a slave all his life, Brome completely innocent towards the evil in the world looked up to Felldoh as an older brother and a badass. Yet as the story goes on, Felldoh becomes darker and obsessed with killing in his quest for revenge against the slavers. To the point where Brome didn't even know who he was anymore, he hated what Felldoh became to the point where he vowed to be as un-Felldoh-ish as possible by becoming a complete pacifist.
* ''[[Literature/AMagesPower A Mage's Power]]'': Eric idolized Dengel ever since he read the ancient mage's book, "The Spirit and It's Power". After he becomes a HeroicHost for Dengel, he exclaims that he keeps that book on his bed side table. [[spoiler:Then he pulls a GrandTheftMe and Eric realizes that he's a treacherous and power hungry opportunist.]]
* In ''Literature/TheGiver'', [[spoiler:Jonas's parents are this to Jonas. It's especially so for the father after Jonas saw a recording of the former "[[ReleasedToElsewhere releasing]]" a twin baby. In the sequels Jonas does not even refer to them as his parents anymore, instead calling them "the people who raised him."]]
* Lissa Dragomir from ''Literature/VampireAcademy'' idolizes her loving brother Andre following his death. She learns after his death that he was a casanova who mistreated non-royal Moroi girls. She is thoroughly disappointed and crushed at the revelation, and finds it hard to accept that side of her brother. She also always believed that her father Eric was a good guy, so [[spoiler:she's very upset to learn that he cheated on her mother once]].
* The Amazing Indestructo in the ''[[Literature/TheExtraordinaryAdventuresOfOrdinaryBoy The Extraordinary Adventures of Ordinary Boy]]'' series is the most popular superhero in Superopolis, the leader of the League of Ultimate Goodness, and admired by the title character. The main characters later discover that The Amazing Indestructo is a [[DirtyCoward cowardly]], [[ItsAllAboutMe egotistical]] {{Jerkass}} who doesn't particularly care about his teammates on the LUG - he deliberately chose people with [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway weak powers]] to make himself look better, and kicked out the original, more competent membership. He also isn't above making merchandising deals with supervillains to benefit himself. Ordinary Boy loses all respect for him immediately. His own team [[LaserGuidedKarma abandons him]] later in the series when they realize this, too.
* In ''Literature/{{Uprooted}}'', Agnieszka is thrilled to hear that Prince Marek is visiting the Dragon's tower. He's a well-known hero who not only battles the malevolent creatures of the Wood without fear, but has a reputation for treating peasants fairly, and she hopes he'll help her escape. When he arrives, one of the first things he does is attempt to rape her because he thinks he's spooking the Dragon. (She uses magic to get away and then beats him nearly to death with a metal tray.) It becomes clear from that point on that Marek is quite a nasty individual, and some of his monster-slaying tales are exaggerated to boot.
* ''Literature/TheIncredibleWorldsOfWallyMcDoogle'': In the twelfth book, ''My Life as a Bigfoot Breath Mint'', Wally goes to California and meets his Uncle Max, a famous stuntman. At first, Max seems like the cool guy everyone (including Wally) thinks he is. As the book goes on, though, it becomes clear that Max is just a shallow, selfish scumbag who only lives and cares for himself (and is a target of loan sharks), to the point that he [[DirtyCoward leaves Wally to drown in a flooded stadium just to save his own skin]], and then tells the media that he saved Wally when it was actually Wally's dad who risked his life to save Wally. Needless to say, Wally isn't happy when this happens.
* ''Literature/JoePickett'': In ''Open Season'', Joe's former mentor turns out to be in bed with a CorruptCorporateExecutive and conspires to wipe a population of an endangered species. This escalates to murder, and he even attempts to kill Joe's wife Marybeth.
* In Creator/JohnBrunner's ''Galactic Consumer Reports No. 1: Inexpensive Time Machines'', the titular devices have restrictions on what eras one can travel. As the report states, it's not a matter of messing up with history - there is a TimePolice from the 11th millennium which handles this far better than any built-in safeguards can. It's a matter of avoiding a BrokenPedestal, so a Jew, for example, can set his machine to avoid accidentally seeing what really happened on Mount Sinai.
* ''Literature/PegasusInFlight'' has a minor example, but still depressing: while they're searching for Tirla, Carmen starts to build up an idea of her as a strong, smart and talented runaway, but who is also an innocent who needs their help. When they meet, Tirla's callousness about the horrible situation the kids she rescued are in makes Carmen quite dismayed.
* Literature/TanteiTeamKZJikenNote series:
** Aya's first impression with Wakatake, Kuroki and Uesugi falls into this. Aya, like all other schoolgirl, admires them as members of [[AcademicAthlete Soccer Team KZ]], and would want to be friends with them. But one day after school, Wakatake {{crash|intohello}}ing his bike on Aya, with Uesugi and Kuroki stopping by. First, Wakatake [[InnocentlyInsensitive calls Aya a "moving mailbox."]] And then Kuroki [[HandsomeLech greets Aya as if he is picking her up]]. This followed by Uesugi [[FourEyesZeroSoul coldly commented Kuroki for "hitting on a girl again."]] Understandably, it's hardly a very good first impression for her. Although her opinions on the boys were rebuilt after spending more time with them.
--->'''Aya''': My admiration for KZ had just crumbled spectacularly.
** In ''The Youkai Computer Knows'', Nanaki's computer mentor pretty much made Nanaki's computer system her botnet. Nanaki was extreme distressed at this development.
* ''Literature/TheWayOfKings'' (first book of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''): Kaladin respects Highmarshal Amaram as the only "true" [[BlueBlood lighteyes]], a noble general like the stories, who has done everything in his power to give Kaladin and his brother a fair chance. [[spoiler:Then Amaram murders Kaladin's squad and brands Kaladin a slave in order to steal the [[SoulCuttingBlade Shardblade]] Kaladin had just won]], and Amaram becomes Kaladin's symbol of everything wrong with the world. He literally dreams of murdering him on multiple occasions.
* In Kai Meyer's ''Die Seiten der Welt'', the heroine Furia finds a true soulmate in a young boy Severin who lives two hundred years earlier, as they are able to communicate with the help of a magical book. [[spoiler:Then she finds out that it was him in the adulthood who caused her family's downfall and exile. Plus a war between fractions of book mages. Moreover, Furia's father was murdered and the girl and her brother barely escaped only because of the plotting of Severin's spurned lover – the latter was insanely jealous since Severin has never truly gotten over Furia. When the girl finally meets her former crush in person (elderly and broken), she is, to put it mildly, not enthusiastic]].
* In ''Literature/HeroWorship'', Marvin idolizes The Core and his goal in life is to be able to use his powers to help them defend the city. After he meets Eliza, and she starts to introduce him to what they're actually like, the pedestal starts to crack. They're not bad people, but they're cynical and deal with the stress of the job with hedonism and drugs, and [[spoiler:they've been forced to fund themselves by seizing drugs from the criminals and reselling them themselves]].
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** In Book 4, the final season, this would be the reason for [[IronLady Kuvira's]] FaceHeelTurn. She look up to Suiyn, the leader of Zaofu and a woman who took her in when she was a homeless child and raised her like a mother, until Suiyn refused to help the Earth Kingdom during its time of need. Kuvira lost all respect for Suiyn and would go on to become the very thing Suiyn feared, a tyrant, using Zaofu's advance technology and resources to conquer the world.

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** In Book 4, the final season, this would be the reason for [[IronLady Kuvira's]] FaceHeelTurn. She look up to Suiyn, Suyin, the leader of Zaofu and a woman who took her in when she was a homeless child and raised her like a mother, until Suiyn Suyin refused to help the Earth Kingdom during its time of need. Kuvira lost all respect for Suiyn Suyin and would go on to become the very thing Suiyn Suyin feared, a tyrant, using Zaofu's advance technology and resources to conquer the world.
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** What Zaphikel ''thought'' would happen, if Raziel learned the truth behind Zaphikel, that [[spoiler: Zaphikel used to be a horrible person who enjoyed killing, was betrayed by the government and later decided to become the leader of the rebels in heaven, given how honest and earnest Raziel was about being a help and thinking heaven was fine]]. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], Raziel says he's honored that Zaphikel told him and retains his pedestal for Zaphikel.
*** Zaphikel loses his pedestal for the entirety of heaven, particularly the higher ups like Sevothtarte, after [[spoiler: he begins to like an angel in the lower layers of heaven, where a lot of unregistered, forbidden children live. Thinking that he really was bettering heaven, Raziel asked for supplies from the higher ups, which ended up to be all laced with bombs, killing the children and the angel Raziel liked]]. His pedestal broke, realizing how messed up heaven is and [[ItsAllMyFault blaming himself for the events]].
*** Raziel loses his pedestal for Setsuna as the messiah, too. He thought Setsuna would be a wonderful messiah, but then realized that he's a headstrong boy, who is ignoring his more rationaly-thinking friends, and is disgusted when he hears that Setsuna [[BrotherSisterIncest is in love with his twin-sister Sara]]. The kicker really came when Setsuna returns from the failed messiah mission in heaven and Raziel learns that [[spoiler: Zaphikel has been captured and will soon be executed by the government]] because of Setsuna's actions. He explodes at Setsuna and yelling 'You want to be our messiah!? [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Who could you possibly save]]?!', leading into Setsuna's aforementioned HeroicBSOD.

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** What Zaphikel ''thought'' would happen, if Raziel learned the truth behind Zaphikel, that [[spoiler: Zaphikel [[spoiler:Zaphikel used to be a horrible person who enjoyed killing, was betrayed by the government and later decided to become the leader of the rebels in heaven, given how honest and earnest Raziel was about being a help and thinking heaven was fine]]. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]], Raziel says he's honored that Zaphikel told him and retains his pedestal for Zaphikel.
*** Zaphikel loses his pedestal for the entirety of heaven, particularly the higher ups like Sevothtarte, after [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he begins to like an angel in the lower layers of heaven, where a lot of unregistered, forbidden children live. Thinking that he really was bettering heaven, Raziel asked for supplies from the higher ups, which ended up to be all laced with bombs, killing the children and the angel Raziel liked]]. His pedestal broke, realizing how messed up heaven is and [[ItsAllMyFault blaming himself for the events]].
*** Raziel loses his pedestal for Setsuna as the messiah, too. He thought Setsuna would be a wonderful messiah, but then realized that he's a headstrong boy, who is ignoring his more rationaly-thinking friends, and is disgusted when he hears that Setsuna [[BrotherSisterIncest is in love with his twin-sister Sara]]. The kicker really came when Setsuna returns from the failed messiah mission in heaven and Raziel learns that [[spoiler: Zaphikel [[spoiler:Zaphikel has been captured and will soon be executed by the government]] because of Setsuna's actions. He explodes at Setsuna and yelling 'You want to be our messiah!? [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Who could you possibly save]]?!', leading into Setsuna's aforementioned HeroicBSOD.



** Soifon regarded Yoruichi this way after her defection [[spoiler: though, truthfully, it had more to do with abandoning her than breaking the law.]] What's worse, Yoruichi never offers her an explanation for it. Emotionally spent and, having lost the will to fight, Soi Fon submitted to her former master, in the end. According the Official Bootleg, they've since reconciled their differences and their [[RebuiltPedestal bond is as strong as ever.]]
* Its implied in episode 20 of ''Anime/CodeGeass R2'', and confirmed in the subsequent episode, that [[spoiler: Empress Marianne]] is Lelouch's broken pedestal, by virtue of [[spoiler:being complicit in her husband's AssimilationPlot and abandoning Lelouch and Nunnally for years, among other things]]. [[spoiler: She's certainly quite the [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] and LadyMacbeth, instead of the borderline PuritySue that Lulu thought she was.]]

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** Soifon regarded Yoruichi this way after her defection [[spoiler: though, [[spoiler:though, truthfully, it had more to do with abandoning her than breaking the law.]] What's worse, Yoruichi never offers her an explanation for it. Emotionally spent and, having lost the will to fight, Soi Fon submitted to her former master, in the end. According the Official Bootleg, they've since reconciled their differences and their [[RebuiltPedestal bond is as strong as ever.]]
* Its implied in episode 20 of ''Anime/CodeGeass R2'', and confirmed in the subsequent episode, that [[spoiler: Empress [[spoiler:Empress Marianne]] is Lelouch's broken pedestal, by virtue of [[spoiler:being complicit in her husband's AssimilationPlot and abandoning Lelouch and Nunnally for years, among other things]]. [[spoiler: She's [[spoiler:She's certainly quite the [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bitch]] and LadyMacbeth, instead of the borderline PuritySue that Lulu thought she was.]]



* Matsuda in ''Manga/DeathNote'' is very fond of Light. [[spoiler: After he finds out Light is Kira, he ends up crying and shooting him. Several times.]]

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* Matsuda in ''Manga/DeathNote'' is very fond of Light. [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After he finds out Light is Kira, he ends up crying and shooting him. Several times.]]



** Ran goes through this ''twice''. First, [[spoiler:the karate champion she idolizes is TakingTheHeat for his girlfriend, the true murderer]]. Second, she not only finds out that [[spoiler: her favorite school teacher also was the killer of the week]], but has to actually ''reveal the truth'', making said episode a ''massive'' TearJerker.

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** Ran goes through this ''twice''. First, [[spoiler:the karate champion she idolizes is TakingTheHeat for his girlfriend, the true murderer]]. Second, she not only finds out that [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her favorite school teacher also was the killer of the week]], but has to actually ''reveal the truth'', making said episode a ''massive'' TearJerker.



** And then there's a subversion... [[spoiler: Shiratori is genuinely saddened when he meets a girl who seemed to be his [[LoveAtFirstSight "girl of destiny"]] and it turns out she's a WomanScorned who has just killed her boyfriend [[LoveHurts after he screwed her over]] ''and'' tried to use him to strengthen her alibi... but soon he finds out she ''isn't'' the girl he's been pining for. [[ChildhoodFriendRomance And he later]] [[FirstGirlAfterAll finds out]] [[HotTeacher who she *actually* is]].]]
** It's played straight ''twice'' for Kogoro, too. First, [[spoiler: one of his TrueCompanions turns out to have killed another person from their friend circle.]] Later, [[spoiler: a young lady whom he tutored in the past kills her older sister.]]

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** And then there's a subversion... [[spoiler: Shiratori [[spoiler:Shiratori is genuinely saddened when he meets a girl who seemed to be his [[LoveAtFirstSight "girl of destiny"]] and it turns out she's a WomanScorned who has just killed her boyfriend [[LoveHurts after he screwed her over]] ''and'' tried to use him to strengthen her alibi... but soon he finds out she ''isn't'' the girl he's been pining for. [[ChildhoodFriendRomance And he later]] [[FirstGirlAfterAll finds out]] [[HotTeacher who she *actually* is]].]]
** It's played straight ''twice'' for Kogoro, too. First, [[spoiler: one [[spoiler:one of his TrueCompanions turns out to have killed another person from their friend circle.]] Later, [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a young lady whom he tutored in the past kills her older sister.]]



** Renton learns not too long into the series that his idol Holland is not quite what he imagined him to be. Holland beating Renton repeatedly and essentially using him as a physical outlet for his frustrations may have had something to do with that...[[spoiler:Their relationship gets a lot better though, after Holland gets a heavy dose of CharacterDevelopment.]]

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** Renton learns not too long into the series that his idol Holland is not quite what he imagined him to be. Holland beating Renton repeatedly and essentially using him as a physical outlet for his frustrations may have had something to do with that... [[spoiler:Their relationship gets a lot better though, after Holland gets a heavy dose of CharacterDevelopment.]]



* ''Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex'': One of Batou's idols was a former boxer and a silver-medalist in the Paralympics. He had the skill to easily take the gold, but he threw the fight. It's not like his life had been devastated by that decision he made, as he still lived a comfortable life. Batou find out that he's actually a very decent man, someone actually worthy of looking up to. [[spoiler: However, he had lost his way and started spying on the country just to earn ''a little extra cash.'']] Batou didn't take this revelation very lightly...

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* ''Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex'': One of Batou's idols was a former boxer and a silver-medalist in the Paralympics. He had the skill to easily take the gold, but he threw the fight. It's not like his life had been devastated by that decision he made, as he still lived a comfortable life. Batou find out that he's actually a very decent man, someone actually worthy of looking up to. [[spoiler: However, [[spoiler:However, he had lost his way and started spying on the country just to earn ''a little extra cash.'']] Batou didn't take this revelation very lightly...



* There are few examples of this in ''Manga/HellGirl''. One example is during Season 3, when a teenage girl, who was mostly ignored by her classmates, suddenly becomes popular after it is discovered that she was able to get all of her letters read on air during a popular late night radio that is catered to teenage girls. Later in the episode, she along with another fangirl, find out that the whole show is scripted and written by a"creative producer" and that the disc jockey the girl became infatuated with was just reading lines that the creative producer written. [[spoiler: The teenage girl sends the other fangirl to hell so the secret can be kept from everyone else.]]

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* There are few examples of this in ''Manga/HellGirl''. One example is during Season 3, when a teenage girl, who was mostly ignored by her classmates, suddenly becomes popular after it is discovered that she was able to get all of her letters read on air during a popular late night radio that is catered to teenage girls. Later in the episode, she along with another fangirl, find out that the whole show is scripted and written by a"creative producer" and that the disc jockey the girl became infatuated with was just reading lines that the creative producer written. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The teenage girl sends the other fangirl to hell so the secret can be kept from everyone else.]]



** [[spoiler:Graham]] could very well be one for [[spoiler:Hayate]], too, but we don't know if she knows the truth about him. Granted too, he still did a lot that was respectable, [[spoiler: accepted he was in error and got off with just resigning his TSAB post]].
** After being rescued, by the titular character in the first episode of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', Subaru had admired Nanoha almost to the point of worship and was genuinely happy that she has been given the opportunity to work with her idol. When [[spoiler: Nanoha shot down her partner and friend mercilessly during training as punishment for insubordination and afterwards removed said partner from combat readiness during an operation]] she was visibly upset. The trope gets subverted after she learns why Nanoha acted the way she did: [[spoiler: she was looking out for her trainees' well being by planning their training regimens step by step to avoid the necessity of TrainingFromHell, something that Subaru's partner constantly subjects herself into as Nanoha herself suffered almost career ending injuries when she was younger because of overtraining]]. After this, [[RebuiltPedestal Subaru's admiration for Nanoha returned and possibly intensified even more]].

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** [[spoiler:Graham]] could very well be one for [[spoiler:Hayate]], too, but we don't know if she knows the truth about him. Granted too, he still did a lot that was respectable, [[spoiler: accepted [[spoiler:accepted he was in error and got off with just resigning his TSAB post]].
** After being rescued, by the titular character in the first episode of ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', Subaru had admired Nanoha almost to the point of worship and was genuinely happy that she has been given the opportunity to work with her idol. When [[spoiler: Nanoha [[spoiler:Nanoha shot down her partner and friend mercilessly during training as punishment for insubordination and afterwards removed said partner from combat readiness during an operation]] she was visibly upset. The trope gets subverted after she learns why Nanoha acted the way she did: [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she was looking out for her trainees' well being by planning their training regimens step by step to avoid the necessity of TrainingFromHell, something that Subaru's partner constantly subjects herself into as Nanoha herself suffered almost career ending injuries when she was younger because of overtraining]]. After this, [[RebuiltPedestal Subaru's admiration for Nanoha returned and possibly intensified even more]].



* In ''Manga/NoMatterHowILookAtItItsYouGuysFaultImNotPopular'' we have Kii-chan, who looks up to Tomoko as a CoolBigSis character. But when she finds out that Tomoko, to appear like an experienced high schooler, lied about having a boyfriend and being popular, and even cheating at a card game with kids to impress her, she lost a lot of respect for her. [[spoiler: And now has taken to treating her like a pitiful puppy.]]

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* In ''Manga/NoMatterHowILookAtItItsYouGuysFaultImNotPopular'' we have Kii-chan, who looks up to Tomoko as a CoolBigSis character. But when she finds out that Tomoko, to appear like an experienced high schooler, lied about having a boyfriend and being popular, and even cheating at a card game with kids to impress her, she lost a lot of respect for her. [[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And now has taken to treating her like a pitiful puppy.]]



* ''Anime/ShatteredAngels'' has [[spoiler:Ayanokouji Kazuya]], the [[spoiler:presumed]] deceased older brother of the main lead, Ayanokouji Kyoushirou. [[spoiler:Kazuya]] was originally portrayed as Kyoushirou's, [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter unsurpassable better]]: the handsome, intelligent, diligent scientist who sacrificed himself in an attempt to prevent a lab accident involving the release of the Absolute Angels from destroying the world. [[spoiler: Toward the end of the series, Kyoshiro and Kuu find out that Kazuya engineered the accident with the intent on wiping out all life on the planet so that he could be alone in his {{utopia}} with his beloved, the most powerful of the Absolute Angels. Also, he survived the first explosion and is more than willing to try it again.]]

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* ''Anime/ShatteredAngels'' has [[spoiler:Ayanokouji Kazuya]], the [[spoiler:presumed]] deceased older brother of the main lead, Ayanokouji Kyoushirou. [[spoiler:Kazuya]] was originally portrayed as Kyoushirou's, [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter unsurpassable better]]: the handsome, intelligent, diligent scientist who sacrificed himself in an attempt to prevent a lab accident involving the release of the Absolute Angels from destroying the world. [[spoiler: Toward [[spoiler:Toward the end of the series, Kyoshiro and Kuu find out that Kazuya engineered the accident with the intent on wiping out all life on the planet so that he could be alone in his {{utopia}} with his beloved, the most powerful of the Absolute Angels. Also, he survived the first explosion and is more than willing to try it again.]]



* In ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'', Tenchi suffers this towards his ''mother''. For years, Tenchi believed his mother, Kiyone, was this sweet and kind-hearted woman. Then, years after her death, he finally gets Noboyuki and Katsuhito to tell him what happened to her. They tell this tale of all the adventurous things she did, getting wilder and fantastical... then, [[spoiler: they can't go through with it anymore and tell Tenchi the truth - what they just told him was from a script, a script she ''willed them to say'', that Kiyone was a massive practical joker and that she died in her sleep beside Tenchi at the age of ''487''. What's worse, he's come to realize that those memories of the kind-hearted woman? Were that of Rea, Noboyuki's secretary/possible second girlfriend while he was still married.]] Tenchi is ''clearly'' pissed off at these revelations.

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* In ''Anime/TenchiMuyo'', Tenchi suffers this towards his ''mother''. For years, Tenchi believed his mother, Kiyone, was this sweet and kind-hearted woman. Then, years after her death, he finally gets Noboyuki and Katsuhito to tell him what happened to her. They tell this tale of all the adventurous things she did, getting wilder and fantastical... then, [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they can't go through with it anymore and tell Tenchi the truth - what they just told him was from a script, a script she ''willed them to say'', that Kiyone was a massive practical joker and that she died in her sleep beside Tenchi at the age of ''487''. What's worse, he's come to realize that those memories of the kind-hearted woman? Were that of Rea, Noboyuki's secretary/possible second girlfriend while he was still married.]] Tenchi is ''clearly'' pissed off at these revelations.



* In ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'', Crow idolizes the Legendary D-Wheeler, the first person to escape from Satellite, until he finds out that he is really [[spoiler: Rex Godwin, the tyrant fostering the poverty and discrimination in Satellite]].

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* In ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'', Crow idolizes the Legendary D-Wheeler, the first person to escape from Satellite, until he finds out that he is really [[spoiler: Rex [[spoiler:Rex Godwin, the tyrant fostering the poverty and discrimination in Satellite]].



* Subverted in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer's father figure (past the age of 5) who taught him how to fight, shoot, and grow up was Jody, the CorruptHick who ruined his life and killed his father. But he knew this the entire time, [[spoiler: and eventually paid him back for it by choking him to death with his bare hands instead of using the "Word of God". His last words to Jessie before his murder at Jesse's hands "Proud o' you boy".]]

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* Subverted in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': Jesse Custer's father figure (past the age of 5) who taught him how to fight, shoot, and grow up was Jody, the CorruptHick who ruined his life and killed his father. But he knew this the entire time, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and eventually paid him back for it by choking him to death with his bare hands instead of using the "Word of God". His last words to Jessie before his murder at Jesse's hands "Proud o' you boy".]]



* In the ''FanFic/TamersForeverSeries'', this happens to Takeru in the eyes of the Tamers once they find out he [[spoiler: plans to allow Takato to die in order to prevent Daemon from aquiring the power of God]].

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* In the ''FanFic/TamersForeverSeries'', this happens to Takeru in the eyes of the Tamers once they find out he [[spoiler: plans [[spoiler:plans to allow Takato to die in order to prevent Daemon from aquiring the power of God]].



* Fanfic/SummerDaysAndEveningFlames: Sergeant Shared Justice, or "Sherry," was the closest thing to a mother figure Iron Bulwark had in his early days after joining the guard. [[spoiler: When Iron learns that Sherry was responsible for the a gang war that got dozens of officers under his command murdered, he's beyond appalled]].

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* Fanfic/SummerDaysAndEveningFlames: Sergeant Shared Justice, or "Sherry," was the closest thing to a mother figure Iron Bulwark had in his early days after joining the guard. [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When Iron learns that Sherry was responsible for the a gang war that got dozens of officers under his command murdered, he's beyond appalled]].



* In ''Fanfic/StoryOfTheCentury'', [[spoiler: the pedestal Light has been on becomes broken when it's found out that he really is Kira and had been all along. It's also implied that the task force loses a lot of trust and respect for L too, given everything he did throughout the investigation. L ends up DyingAlone by the end, mostly by choice.]]

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* In ''Fanfic/StoryOfTheCentury'', [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the pedestal Light has been on becomes broken when it's found out that he really is Kira and had been all along. It's also implied that the task force loses a lot of trust and respect for L too, given everything he did throughout the investigation. L ends up DyingAlone by the end, mostly by choice.]]



* Subverted in the MLP fanfic [[FanFic/FallingBackwards Falling Backwards]], [[spoiler: after Rainbow Dash's brain damage leaves her mentally a child,]] it looks like Scootaloo will have this. But, after her brief shock, she accepts the situation for what it is and that it was great while it lasted.

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* Subverted in the MLP fanfic [[FanFic/FallingBackwards Falling Backwards]], [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after Rainbow Dash's brain damage leaves her mentally a child,]] it looks like Scootaloo will have this. But, after her brief shock, she accepts the situation for what it is and that it was great while it lasted.



* ''FanFic/{{Shatterheart}}'': [[spoiler: Clone!]]Syaoran has always looked up to Kurogane as a mentor and father-figure and hoped that Kurogane would do the same for his son, [[spoiler: Tsubasa/Real!]]Syaoran. [[spoiler: Clone!]] Syaoran is rather horrified when he finds out that Kurogane has a romantic relationship with [[spoiler: Real!]]Syaoran. [[spoiler: Clone!]]Syaoran doesn't like it but he grows to accept it.

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* ''FanFic/{{Shatterheart}}'': [[spoiler: Clone!]]Syaoran [[spoiler:Clone!]]Syaoran has always looked up to Kurogane as a mentor and father-figure and hoped that Kurogane would do the same for his son, [[spoiler: Tsubasa/Real!]]Syaoran. [[spoiler: Clone!]] [[spoiler:Tsubasa/Real!]]Syaoran. [[spoiler:Clone!]] Syaoran is rather horrified when he finds out that Kurogane has a romantic relationship with [[spoiler: Real!]]Syaoran. [[spoiler: Clone!]]Syaoran [[spoiler:Real!]]Syaoran. [[spoiler:Clone!]]Syaoran doesn't like it but he grows to accept it.



* In ''FanFic/TheFifthAct'' [[PeggySue Cloud]] [[BrokenAce Strife ]] is looked up to even with the First Classes as the strongest and most skilled among them. He falls off it when they find out that he was essentially planning a [[spoiler: murder-suicide.]] This ends up for the best, [[spoiler: they put him on suicide watch and finally get his past barriers to truly befriend him.]]
* ''Film/{{Tron}}: Endgame Scenario'': The pedestal didn't get broken as much as eroded to nothing, but Jet and Yori are not able to forgive Kevin Flynn for abandoning the Programs to Clu's "mercy" after the coup [[spoiler: doubly so because of what happened to Tron]]. Jet in particular simmers with rage about it, as he views building The Grid in the first place [[PlayingGod a horrible breach of ethics]] that makes his godfather no better than [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Thorne and F-Con's Datawraiths]].

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* In ''FanFic/TheFifthAct'' [[PeggySue Cloud]] [[BrokenAce Strife ]] is looked up to even with the First Classes as the strongest and most skilled among them. He falls off it when they find out that he was essentially planning a [[spoiler: murder-suicide.[[spoiler:murder-suicide.]] This ends up for the best, [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they put him on suicide watch and finally get his past barriers to truly befriend him.]]
* ''Film/{{Tron}}: Endgame Scenario'': The pedestal didn't get broken as much as eroded to nothing, but Jet and Yori are not able to forgive Kevin Flynn for abandoning the Programs to Clu's "mercy" after the coup [[spoiler: doubly [[spoiler:doubly so because of what happened to Tron]]. Jet in particular simmers with rage about it, as he views building The Grid in the first place [[PlayingGod a horrible breach of ethics]] that makes his godfather no better than [[VideoGame/TronTwoPointOh Thorne and F-Con's Datawraiths]].



* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'', on arriving in Venezuela, Carl Frederickson meets his childhood hero, the explorer Charles Muntz, who has spent his life trying to capture a rare bird that lives on the plateau near Paradise Falls...and has become dangerously obsessed with his quest, to the point of [[spoiler: killing people he even ''thinks'' are trying to get the bird back to civilization before him, and threatening Carl and Russell.]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'', on arriving in Venezuela, Carl Frederickson meets his childhood hero, the explorer Charles Muntz, who has spent his life trying to capture a rare bird that lives on the plateau near Paradise Falls...and has become dangerously obsessed with his quest, to the point of [[spoiler: killing [[spoiler:killing people he even ''thinks'' are trying to get the bird back to civilization before him, and threatening Carl and Russell.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'': [[spoiler: Waternoose becomes this to Sulley when the latter finds out the former's plans of kidnapping children to solve the energy crisis.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'': [[spoiler: Rico is this for Buck after it's revealed that he's been Alameda Slim's lackey all along]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'': [[spoiler: Waternoose [[spoiler:Waternoose becomes this to Sulley when the latter finds out the former's plans of kidnapping children to solve the energy crisis.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/HomeOnTheRange'': [[spoiler: Rico [[spoiler:Rico is this for Buck after it's revealed that he's been Alameda Slim's lackey all along]].



* In ''Film/TheRocketeer'', Jenny Blake greatly admires film star Neville Sinclair until she finds out he's a creep [[spoiler: and a Nazi spy.]]
* In ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'', Optimus reunites with his mentor Sentinel Prime, who was believed to have been lost in Cybertron's final battles. Optimus, with all due respect, offers Sentinel back the Matrix of Leadership, but Sentinel declines, saying that Optimus knows more about the human world than he does. It's later revealed that Sentinel [[spoiler: has sided with Megatron, compromising the beliefs he taught Optimus in order to ensure the survival of the Cybertronian race. Optimus, after recovering from his shock, battles Sentinel, eventually executing him with (the now dead) Megatron's fusion shotgun.]]

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* In ''Film/TheRocketeer'', Jenny Blake greatly admires film star Neville Sinclair until she finds out he's a creep [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and a Nazi spy.]]
* In ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'', Optimus reunites with his mentor Sentinel Prime, who was believed to have been lost in Cybertron's final battles. Optimus, with all due respect, offers Sentinel back the Matrix of Leadership, but Sentinel declines, saying that Optimus knows more about the human world than he does. It's later revealed that Sentinel [[spoiler: has [[spoiler:has sided with Megatron, compromising the beliefs he taught Optimus in order to ensure the survival of the Cybertronian race. Optimus, after recovering from his shock, battles Sentinel, eventually executing him with (the now dead) Megatron's fusion shotgun.]]



* Sean to Mark in ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''. Mark admires Sean's power and ideas but [[spoiler: his faith wavered when he finds out about Sean's arrest for partying and doing drugs with under-aged interns.]]

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* Sean to Mark in ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''. Mark admires Sean's power and ideas but [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his faith wavered when he finds out about Sean's arrest for partying and doing drugs with under-aged interns.]]



* In ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesOutOfTheShadows'', Shredder teams up with Krang to TakeOverTheWorld. [[spoiler: Just before the climax, Krang reveals he had been using Shredder all along, and he promptly turns his back on Shredder and freezes him.]]

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* In ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesOutOfTheShadows'', Shredder teams up with Krang to TakeOverTheWorld. [[spoiler: Just [[spoiler:Just before the climax, Krang reveals he had been using Shredder all along, and he promptly turns his back on Shredder and freezes him.]]



* ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' Done twice to Kyle Reese. [[spoiler: The reveal that John Connor was overtaken by Skynet and became its most deadly enforcer, T-3000, is this to him after he goes to the year 2017 to stop Skynet from going online under the name Project Genisys. And this is after Kyle learned that the alternate timeline changed everything in the 1980s, so that Sarah Connor is already a battle harden soldier and not a DamselInDistress before he shows up, and the original T-800 and T-1000 are trying to kill him so he doesn't remember that he needs to stop Skynet in 2017.]]

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* ''Film/TerminatorGenisys'' Done twice to Kyle Reese. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The reveal that John Connor was overtaken by Skynet and became its most deadly enforcer, T-3000, is this to him after he goes to the year 2017 to stop Skynet from going online under the name Project Genisys. And this is after Kyle learned that the alternate timeline changed everything in the 1980s, so that Sarah Connor is already a battle harden soldier and not a DamselInDistress before he shows up, and the original T-800 and T-1000 are trying to kill him so he doesn't remember that he needs to stop Skynet in 2017.]]



** As a result of the above and his actions in ''Literature/ColdDays'', Butters also has this towards Harry in ''Literature/SkinGame'', and presents, from his point of view, fairly compelling evidence that Harry's SlidingDownTheSlipperySlope, which Harry himself inwardly acknowledges makes perfect sense from his point of view (which lacks some context). After all, Harry ''is'' now working for Mab [[spoiler: as the Winter Knight]], being much more secretive and living on an island which is an archetypal EldritchLocation and tends to MindRape anyone on it who isn't him (in the latter case, Harry didn't actually know that it was still doing this to other people and considers what it must have been like for those without his psychic defence training and Molly, who didn't have that training and also happens to be a powerful Sensitive). During the book, he steadily has the pedestal rebuilt until, appropriately, [[spoiler: Butters becomes the new wielder of ''Fidelacchius'', the Sword of Faith, now a holy lightsabre]].

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** As a result of the above and his actions in ''Literature/ColdDays'', Butters also has this towards Harry in ''Literature/SkinGame'', and presents, from his point of view, fairly compelling evidence that Harry's SlidingDownTheSlipperySlope, which Harry himself inwardly acknowledges makes perfect sense from his point of view (which lacks some context). After all, Harry ''is'' now working for Mab [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as the Winter Knight]], being much more secretive and living on an island which is an archetypal EldritchLocation and tends to MindRape anyone on it who isn't him (in the latter case, Harry didn't actually know that it was still doing this to other people and considers what it must have been like for those without his psychic defence training and Molly, who didn't have that training and also happens to be a powerful Sensitive). During the book, he steadily has the pedestal rebuilt until, appropriately, [[spoiler: Butters [[spoiler:Butters becomes the new wielder of ''Fidelacchius'', the Sword of Faith, now a holy lightsabre]].



%% * ''Literature/TheHouseOfNight'': For both Zoey and Aphrodite with regards to [[spoiler: Neferet]].

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%% * ''Literature/TheHouseOfNight'': For both Zoey and Aphrodite with regards to [[spoiler: Neferet]].[[spoiler:Neferet]].



* ''[[Literature/AMagesPower A Mage's Power]]'': Eric idolized Dengel ever since he read the ancient mage's book, "The Spirit and It's Power". After he becomes a HeroicHost for Dengel, he exclaims that he keeps that book on his bed side table. [[spoiler: Then he pulls a GrandTheftMe and Eric realizes that he's a treacherous and power hungry opportunist.]]

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* ''[[Literature/AMagesPower A Mage's Power]]'': Eric idolized Dengel ever since he read the ancient mage's book, "The Spirit and It's Power". After he becomes a HeroicHost for Dengel, he exclaims that he keeps that book on his bed side table. [[spoiler: Then [[spoiler:Then he pulls a GrandTheftMe and Eric realizes that he's a treacherous and power hungry opportunist.]]



* Lissa Dragomir from ''Literature/VampireAcademy'' idolizes her loving brother Andre following his death. She learns after his death that he was a casanova who mistreated non-royal Moroi girls. She is thoroughly disappointed and crushed at the revelation, and finds it hard to accept that side of her brother. She also always believed that her father Eric was a good guy, so [[spoiler: she's very upset to learn that he cheated on her mother once]].

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* Lissa Dragomir from ''Literature/VampireAcademy'' idolizes her loving brother Andre following his death. She learns after his death that he was a casanova who mistreated non-royal Moroi girls. She is thoroughly disappointed and crushed at the revelation, and finds it hard to accept that side of her brother. She also always believed that her father Eric was a good guy, so [[spoiler: she's [[spoiler:she's very upset to learn that he cheated on her mother once]].



* One episode of ''Series/{{Boomtown}}'' has the officers trying to defuse a hostage situation at a sporting goods store. Ray gets excited when he finds out the manager was the star of a television series he used to enjoy and volunteers to go in undercover. The pedestal starts to crumble when he sees how washed up the former star is and completely breaks when he fails to recognize his own CatchPhrase. The broken pedestal is further pulverized when [[spoiler: Ray discovers the former star was collaborating with the criminals.]]

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* One episode of ''Series/{{Boomtown}}'' has the officers trying to defuse a hostage situation at a sporting goods store. Ray gets excited when he finds out the manager was the star of a television series he used to enjoy and volunteers to go in undercover. The pedestal starts to crumble when he sees how washed up the former star is and completely breaks when he fails to recognize his own CatchPhrase. The broken pedestal is further pulverized when [[spoiler: Ray [[spoiler:Ray discovers the former star was collaborating with the criminals.]]



** Buffy has moments like this with Giles, although she usually eventually gets over them. [[spoiler: Until Season 7, when Giles conspires with Robin Wood to kill Spike behind her back; Buffy tells Giles point-blank that he's taught her everything she needs to know and shuts the door in his face.]]

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** Buffy has moments like this with Giles, although she usually eventually gets over them. [[spoiler: Until [[spoiler:Until Season 7, when Giles conspires with Robin Wood to kill Spike behind her back; Buffy tells Giles point-blank that he's taught her everything she needs to know and shuts the door in his face.]]



** The training officer who taught Beckett everything she knew betrayed her for a chance to find a treasure, [[spoiler:though she did chase his killer to Los Angeles]]. Just two episodes after this, [[spoiler: Captain Montgomery]], who was her mentor as a detective turns out to [[spoiler: be involved in her mother's death]].

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** The training officer who taught Beckett everything she knew betrayed her for a chance to find a treasure, [[spoiler:though she did chase his killer to Los Angeles]]. Just two episodes after this, [[spoiler: Captain [[spoiler:Captain Montgomery]], who was her mentor as a detective turns out to [[spoiler: be [[spoiler:be involved in her mother's death]].



** While having a brief relationship, Castle also looked up a lot to Sophia Turner, a CIA agent who inspired one of his characters. You can thus imagine his reaction when it's revealed that [[spoiler: not only is Sophia working with a terrorist group trying to start WorldWarIII, but she's actually a KGB mole who infiltrated the CIA only to be left on her own when the USSR collapsed and has never been loyal to America.]]

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** While having a brief relationship, Castle also looked up a lot to Sophia Turner, a CIA agent who inspired one of his characters. You can thus imagine his reaction when it's revealed that [[spoiler: not [[spoiler:not only is Sophia working with a terrorist group trying to start WorldWarIII, but she's actually a KGB mole who infiltrated the CIA only to be left on her own when the USSR collapsed and has never been loyal to America.]]



** Casey's mentor comes back and is [[spoiler: a Fulcrum agent]].
** Also, Chuck's old college girlfriend turned out [[spoiler: to not only be a spy, but also a Fulcrum agent]]. In all honesty it seems like everyone in any way connected to Chuck is involved with Fulcrum in some way...
** Not exactly. [[spoiler: Nowhere in the episode is it stated that Ty Bennett was working for Fulcrum, and he is instead set up as having instead been working independently and forming his own mercenary/terrorist organization. It's revealed in a later episode in which Casey is reunited with his former commanding officer--another Broken Pedestal who is now working for the Ring--that Bennett was actually working directly with or for ''him''.]]
** [[spoiler: Daniel Shaw makes for one ''huge'' Broken Pedestal. Set up as Chuck's mentor in using the Intersect, and a great spy and everything Chuck was aspiring to become once accepting his destiny as a hero (YMMV how well this was played). Then he gets manipulated, broken, and turned by the Ring to become one of the most dangerous villains in the entire series. Only Quinn in the fifth season came close to hurting the team as deeply and personally as Shaw did.]]

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** Casey's mentor comes back and is [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a Fulcrum agent]].
** Also, Chuck's old college girlfriend turned out [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to not only be a spy, but also a Fulcrum agent]]. In all honesty it seems like everyone in any way connected to Chuck is involved with Fulcrum in some way...
** Not exactly. [[spoiler: Nowhere [[spoiler:Nowhere in the episode is it stated that Ty Bennett was working for Fulcrum, and he is instead set up as having instead been working independently and forming his own mercenary/terrorist organization. It's revealed in a later episode in which Casey is reunited with his former commanding officer--another Broken Pedestal who is now working for the Ring--that Bennett was actually working directly with or for ''him''.]]
** [[spoiler: Daniel [[spoiler:Daniel Shaw makes for one ''huge'' Broken Pedestal. Set up as Chuck's mentor in using the Intersect, and a great spy and everything Chuck was aspiring to become once accepting his destiny as a hero (YMMV how well this was played). Then he gets manipulated, broken, and turned by the Ring to become one of the most dangerous villains in the entire series. Only Quinn in the fifth season came close to hurting the team as deeply and personally as Shaw did.]]



** Inverted, again with Troy, in "Intermediate Documentary Filmmaking". Troy asks Pierce for a picture of Creator/LevarBurton. Burton shows up in person, much to Troy's shock...because he was worried about disappointing Burton.
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'''s gone through a lot of these. He idolizes his foster father Harry, adhering rigidly to the "Code of Harry" when he kills, only targeting criminals who've escaped justice, and never taking risks of being caught. Then, in Season 1, he finds out Harry knew Dexter's biological father was alive and kept the info from him, and destroyed the file on Dexter's HarmfulToMinors moment. If that's not enough, in Season 2, [[spoiler: Dexter decides to abandon the Code-or at least shift it to suit his means-when he finds out that Harry likely killed himself because he couldn't stand what he'd made Dexter into]]. [[spoiler: He also had an intimate relationship with Dexter's birth mother, which was directly responsible for her murder.]]
** In season 6, Dexter meets the man who inspired him to be a serial killer-the Tooth Fairy, a man who ripped the teeth out of his victims, and once dumped a fresh body on a District Attorneys lawn and still managed to elude capture. [[spoiler: He's become an abusive, drunk old pervert waiting to die in a retirement home. Granted, its not like we'd expect much more from a serial killer, but the impact it has on Dexter certainly shows elements of Broken Pedestal. Also, he apparently only dumped the body cause he was drunk and lazy-he got away by pure stupid luck.]]

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** Inverted, again with Troy, in "Intermediate Documentary Filmmaking". Troy asks Pierce for a picture of Creator/LevarBurton. Burton shows up in person, much to Troy's shock...shock.. .because he was worried about disappointing Burton.
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'''s gone through a lot of these. He idolizes his foster father Harry, adhering rigidly to the "Code of Harry" when he kills, only targeting criminals who've escaped justice, and never taking risks of being caught. Then, in Season 1, he finds out Harry knew Dexter's biological father was alive and kept the info from him, and destroyed the file on Dexter's HarmfulToMinors moment. If that's not enough, in Season 2, [[spoiler: Dexter [[spoiler:Dexter decides to abandon the Code-or at least shift it to suit his means-when he finds out that Harry likely killed himself because he couldn't stand what he'd made Dexter into]]. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He also had an intimate relationship with Dexter's birth mother, which was directly responsible for her murder.]]
** In season 6, Dexter meets the man who inspired him to be a serial killer-the Tooth Fairy, a man who ripped the teeth out of his victims, and once dumped a fresh body on a District Attorneys lawn and still managed to elude capture. [[spoiler: He's [[spoiler:He's become an abusive, drunk old pervert waiting to die in a retirement home. Granted, its not like we'd expect much more from a serial killer, but the impact it has on Dexter certainly shows elements of Broken Pedestal. Also, he apparently only dumped the body cause he was drunk and lazy-he got away by pure stupid luck.]]



** The Doctor breaks his own pedestal in regards to [[spoiler: Amy Pond]], by telling her how he truly views himself; not as a hero, but a vain mad man who's willing to put the people he loves in danger.

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** The Doctor breaks his own pedestal in regards to [[spoiler: Amy [[spoiler:Amy Pond]], by telling her how he truly views himself; not as a hero, but a vain mad man who's willing to put the people he loves in danger.



* ''Series/{{ER}}'' did an arc about Drs. Benton and Carter being taken under the wing of the illustrious Dr. Vucelich, the only doctor at County General to have never lost a patient. [[spoiler: This is because he's a slimy cheat who drops every patient he knows is going to die from his care ahead of time]].

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* ''Series/{{ER}}'' did an arc about Drs. Benton and Carter being taken under the wing of the illustrious Dr. Vucelich, the only doctor at County General to have never lost a patient. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This is because he's a slimy cheat who drops every patient he knows is going to die from his care ahead of time]].



*** Captain Durka was a legendary figure among the Peacekeepers, and his ship, ''Zelbenion'', was rightly feared throughout the Uncharted Territories. Then it's eventually learned that Durka [[spoiler: was actually a coward and probably psychotic as well, faking his own death and surrendering to the Nebari when they attacked his ship.]]
*** A later episode has Sub-Officer Dacon, a legendary Peacekeeper officer who sacrificed his life to safely end an assault on a monastery filled with nothing but women and children. [[spoiler: When the crew gets accidentally sent back in time to this event, turns out Dacon is just a cook. He ''is'' a decent person though, and it turns out his commanding officer was the real hero of legend, so there's that]].

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*** Captain Durka was a legendary figure among the Peacekeepers, and his ship, ''Zelbenion'', was rightly feared throughout the Uncharted Territories. Then it's eventually learned that Durka [[spoiler: was [[spoiler:was actually a coward and probably psychotic as well, faking his own death and surrendering to the Nebari when they attacked his ship.]]
*** A later episode has Sub-Officer Dacon, a legendary Peacekeeper officer who sacrificed his life to safely end an assault on a monastery filled with nothing but women and children. [[spoiler: When [[spoiler:When the crew gets accidentally sent back in time to this event, turns out Dacon is just a cook. He ''is'' a decent person though, and it turns out his commanding officer was the real hero of legend, so there's that]].



** When we first meet Harrison Wells, he is a well-loved public figure and the most eminent scientist of his generation. After his particle accelerator explodes, he becomes a pariah to most of the city. Caitlin, Cisco and Barry still look up to him as a hero and a mentor, but cracks start to appear in his pedestal even to them when Hartley Rathaway returns seeking revenge on Wells for ruining his career [[spoiler: after he discovered the particle accelerator was intended to fail]]. Dr Wells manages to retain their faith in him by finally owning up to his mistakes, but then the plot happens and [[spoiler: Barry starts to suspect that he is actually the Reverse Flash. Cisco and Caitlin are reluctant to believe him, but Wells' actions after his identity is revealed cause even his two closest friends to turn on him.]]
** Jay Garrick, the Flash of Earth 2, became good friends with Team Flash, even starting a romance with Caitlin, while they try to defeat [[BigBad Zoom]]. When it appears he is killed by Zoom, Barry constructs a small monument to Jay, with his helmet in a glass case, vowing to honor him. Unfortunately, when they start noticing certain clues about Zoom, they have Cisco use his powers to confirm what they're figuring out... [[spoiler: Jay is Zoom. It would later be revealed his real name is Hunter Zolomon, a serial killer who kidnapped the ''real'' Jay Garrick from another Earth and stole his identity, and has been making Barry get faster to steal his speed]]. In a literal sense of this trope, when Barry gets suspicious, he shatters the glass container on the pedestal Jay's helmet was resting on.

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** When we first meet Harrison Wells, he is a well-loved public figure and the most eminent scientist of his generation. After his particle accelerator explodes, he becomes a pariah to most of the city. Caitlin, Cisco and Barry still look up to him as a hero and a mentor, but cracks start to appear in his pedestal even to them when Hartley Rathaway returns seeking revenge on Wells for ruining his career [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after he discovered the particle accelerator was intended to fail]]. Dr Wells manages to retain their faith in him by finally owning up to his mistakes, but then the plot happens and [[spoiler: Barry [[spoiler:Barry starts to suspect that he is actually the Reverse Flash. Cisco and Caitlin are reluctant to believe him, but Wells' actions after his identity is revealed cause even his two closest friends to turn on him.]]
** Jay Garrick, the Flash of Earth 2, became good friends with Team Flash, even starting a romance with Caitlin, while they try to defeat [[BigBad Zoom]]. When it appears he is killed by Zoom, Barry constructs a small monument to Jay, with his helmet in a glass case, vowing to honor him. Unfortunately, when they start noticing certain clues about Zoom, they have Cisco use his powers to confirm what they're figuring out... [[spoiler: Jay [[spoiler:Jay is Zoom. It would later be revealed his real name is Hunter Zolomon, a serial killer who kidnapped the ''real'' Jay Garrick from another Earth and stole his identity, and has been making Barry get faster to steal his speed]]. In a literal sense of this trope, when Barry gets suspicious, he shatters the glass container on the pedestal Jay's helmet was resting on.



* In ''Hyperdrive'', Henderson idolises the show-in-show Captain Helix, and finally gets to meet the actor [[spoiler: only to find out that he's an alien spy who's hypnotised Henderson into stealing Britain's new superweapon.]]

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* In ''Hyperdrive'', Henderson idolises the show-in-show Captain Helix, and finally gets to meet the actor [[spoiler: only [[spoiler:only to find out that he's an alien spy who's hypnotised Henderson into stealing Britain's new superweapon.]]



** Goren doesn't find it especially hard to believe that his FBI profiler mentor might also be the SerialKiller who kidnapped his partner. The twist reveals [[spoiler: the killer is actually the profiler's ''daughter'', who washed out of the FBI and wants to disprove her father's theory that women can't be {{Serial Killer}}s (let's just say he couldn't leave the shop talk at work and she liked to use his recordings of people being [[ColdBloodedTorture tortured]] as a test for prospective high school boyfriends ''before getting intimate with them'') in a desperate bid to get his attention. Needless to say, it worked.]]
** Then, in a later episode, [[spoiler: said mentor helps Goren's archnemesis kill his younger brother, and then kills her himself, in order to become closer to Goren. Goren doesn't understand it either.]]

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** Goren doesn't find it especially hard to believe that his FBI profiler mentor might also be the SerialKiller who kidnapped his partner. The twist reveals [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the killer is actually the profiler's ''daughter'', who washed out of the FBI and wants to disprove her father's theory that women can't be {{Serial Killer}}s (let's just say he couldn't leave the shop talk at work and she liked to use his recordings of people being [[ColdBloodedTorture tortured]] as a test for prospective high school boyfriends ''before getting intimate with them'') in a desperate bid to get his attention. Needless to say, it worked.]]
** Then, in a later episode, [[spoiler: said [[spoiler:said mentor helps Goren's archnemesis kill his younger brother, and then kills her himself, in order to become closer to Goren. Goren doesn't understand it either.]]



* Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries: [[spoiler: Georges Sanderson to Jack]], in the second-to-last episode of the second season.

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* Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries: [[spoiler: Georges [[spoiler:Georges Sanderson to Jack]], in the second-to-last episode of the second season.



* Hook three times in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' season 5. [[spoiler: First with Emma, who turns him into a Dark One against his will and tries enslaving him with Excalibur, pushing his BerserkButton. Then in the mid season finale. Young Killian Jones is rocked to find out his father had abandoned his sons and sold them into servitude. Especially when earlier on in the episode, he told his father "I want to be just like you".Then later with Liam, who as it turns out was more flawed and less noble than Killian had thought he was.]]

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* Hook three times in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' season 5. [[spoiler: First [[spoiler:First with Emma, who turns him into a Dark One against his will and tries enslaving him with Excalibur, pushing his BerserkButton. Then in the mid season finale. Young Killian Jones is rocked to find out his father had abandoned his sons and sold them into servitude. Especially when earlier on in the episode, he told his father "I want to be just like you".Then later with Liam, who as it turns out was more flawed and less noble than Killian had thought he was.]]



* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', we get Admiral Leyton, whom Sisko admired...[[spoiler: until he tries to usurp power and declare martial law]].
** Then we learn that Odo had not always placed justice first [[spoiler: and 3 innocent Bajorans were executed as a result]].
** And Admiral Ross [[spoiler: works with section 31!]]
** And in "Valiant", Nog meets Red Squad, the elite Cadet group from Starfleet (whom he adored) and they are stubborn, hubris-filled and intolerant, [[spoiler: and get themselves killed, with Nog, Jake and some girl barely escaping.]]

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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', we get Admiral Leyton, whom Sisko admired...[[spoiler: until [[spoiler:until he tries to usurp power and declare martial law]].
** Then we learn that Odo had not always placed justice first [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and 3 innocent Bajorans were executed as a result]].
** And Admiral Ross [[spoiler: works [[spoiler:works with section 31!]]
** And in "Valiant", Nog meets Red Squad, the elite Cadet group from Starfleet (whom he adored) and they are stubborn, hubris-filled and intolerant, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and get themselves killed, with Nog, Jake and some girl barely escaping.]]



** An in-universe example, Kor (one of the Original Klingons) joins Worf and General Martok on a raid in Dominion space. He is able to captivate the crew with tales of fighting the Federation. However, during the battle with the Dominion, when command falls to Kor, [[spoiler: he believes he is fighting the Federation with his long-deceased friend Kang. This nearly destroys the ship.]]

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** An in-universe example, Kor (one of the Original Klingons) joins Worf and General Martok on a raid in Dominion space. He is able to captivate the crew with tales of fighting the Federation. However, during the battle with the Dominion, when command falls to Kor, [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he believes he is fighting the Federation with his long-deceased friend Kang. This nearly destroys the ship.]]



* In the ''Series/{{Supergirl}}'' episode [[Recap/Supergirl2015S2E8Medusa "Medusa"]], [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] discovers her father Zor-El is responsible for [[spoiler: creating a bioweapon capable of killing any non-Kryptonians]].

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* In the ''Series/{{Supergirl}}'' episode [[Recap/Supergirl2015S2E8Medusa "Medusa"]], [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] discovers her father Zor-El is responsible for [[spoiler: creating [[spoiler:creating a bioweapon capable of killing any non-Kryptonians]].



** It comes up majorly in season 11 when God [[spoiler: who's been living as writer Chuck]] is shown to have been in hiding for so long. Metatron lets him have it over how he's been praying to him all this time and God just dismisses it as nothing really changing. A big bit is Metatron talking of how happy he was when God chose him to be his Scribe only to learn that he was chosen simply because he was the closest angel.

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** It comes up majorly in season 11 when God [[spoiler: who's [[spoiler:who's been living as writer Chuck]] is shown to have been in hiding for so long. Metatron lets him have it over how he's been praying to him all this time and God just dismisses it as nothing really changing. A big bit is Metatron talking of how happy he was when God chose him to be his Scribe only to learn that he was chosen simply because he was the closest angel.



* ''Series/WhiteCollar'': Neal when he realizes that nothing matters to [[spoiler: his dad]] more than himself. He makes it clear he's not above hurting his son to avoid even the chance of getting caught and Neal looks absolutely shattered.
* ''Series/MurderInTheFirst'': Police captain [[spoiler: Ernie Knubbins]], whom Terry had respected and looked up to, is revealed to be the "head man" of the corrupt police group called the Union.

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* ''Series/WhiteCollar'': Neal when he realizes that nothing matters to [[spoiler: his [[spoiler:his dad]] more than himself. He makes it clear he's not above hurting his son to avoid even the chance of getting caught and Neal looks absolutely shattered.
* ''Series/MurderInTheFirst'': Police captain [[spoiler: Ernie [[spoiler:Ernie Knubbins]], whom Terry had respected and looked up to, is revealed to be the "head man" of the corrupt police group called the Union.



* ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'': 'Farewell my fallen idol and false friend/We had such hopes but now those hopes lie shattered... Angel of Music, you deceived me/I gave you my mind blindly.' Erik goes from being a StalkerWithACrush into a full-blown wack job when he, in a convoluted WifeHusbandry plan [[spoiler: kidnaps Christine and threatens to kill her fiance unless she agrees to marry him (Erik, that is)]].

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* ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'': 'Farewell my fallen idol and false friend/We had such hopes but now those hopes lie shattered... Angel of Music, you deceived me/I gave you my mind blindly.' Erik goes from being a StalkerWithACrush into a full-blown wack job when he, in a convoluted WifeHusbandry plan [[spoiler: kidnaps [[spoiler:kidnaps Christine and threatens to kill her fiance unless she agrees to marry him (Erik, that is)]].



** ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' also contains a straight example in [[spoiler:the Wizard]], beloved by all of Oz and idolized by Elphaba and Glinda, who turns out to be [[spoiler: a con man and the BigBad]]. Though the revelation takes longer for Glinda to process, she eventually accomplishes more with the knowledge than Elphaba.

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** ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' also contains a straight example in [[spoiler:the Wizard]], beloved by all of Oz and idolized by Elphaba and Glinda, who turns out to be [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a con man and the BigBad]]. Though the revelation takes longer for Glinda to process, she eventually accomplishes more with the knowledge than Elphaba.



* You can see this in Lloyd's reaction to [[spoiler: Kratos betraying them]] in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.

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* You can see this in Lloyd's reaction to [[spoiler: Kratos [[spoiler:Kratos betraying them]] in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia''.



** TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld has [[spoiler: Richter Abend.]] [[LoveHurts Poor,]] [[BreakTheCutie poor,]] [[TheWoobie Emil.]]
* [[spoiler: Palaxius]] in ''VideoGame/AtelierIris2TheAzothOfDestiny''.

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** TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld has [[spoiler: Richter [[spoiler:Richter Abend.]] [[LoveHurts Poor,]] [[BreakTheCutie poor,]] [[TheWoobie Emil.]]
* [[spoiler: Palaxius]] [[spoiler:Palaxius]] in ''VideoGame/AtelierIris2TheAzothOfDestiny''.



* Happened in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia''. [[spoiler: Turns out Barlowe is a Dracula worshipper and uses the organization and Shanoa as a tool to revive Dracula]]. Depending on how the game is played, [[spoiler:Shanoa]] may [[spoiler:end up following him blindly (and dying in vain)]], or wises up and performs a RageAgainstTheMentor.

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* Happened in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia''. [[spoiler: Turns [[spoiler:Turns out Barlowe is a Dracula worshipper and uses the organization and Shanoa as a tool to revive Dracula]]. Depending on how the game is played, [[spoiler:Shanoa]] may [[spoiler:end up following him blindly (and dying in vain)]], or wises up and performs a RageAgainstTheMentor.



* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. Yukari Takeba's father became her main source of hope and believed he was innocent after a traumatic event left her father dead as well as hundreds of other scientists. Said event not only ostracized her family courtesy of the public backlash, but also subsequently strained her relationship with her mother after she abandoned Yukari for other men, being unable to cope with her husband's death. Growing up lonely but willful, Yukari's belief in her father being falsely accused for the accident that claimed his life [[spoiler: was the reason she transferred to Gekkoukan Highschool, two years prior before joining S.E.E.S. Couple that with her receiving a letter from her father addressed for her to receive ten years later, was the catalyst for her Persona [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Io's]] awakening.]] Yukari's belief gets severely tested in "The Journey" and for a time after a certain event, was forced to admit that her father was guilty of mass murder, she stays with S.E.E.S. to atone for her father's mistakes. [[spoiler: Eventually it's revealed that he only did what he had to do, being one of the few scientists left with their sanity intact he delayed the coming of the end of the world, with that revelation combined with his message of immense love for Yukari, the scene becomes both CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming and RebuiltPedestal rolled into one, being the moment Yukari awakens her ultimate Persona [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Isis]] with a renewed will to fight.]]
* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. After [[spoiler: a major character is seemingly KilledOffForReal]], the protagonist's surrogate father figure, a by-the-book and thoroughly incorruptible policeman, runs off apparently to kill the man thought responsible; [[spoiler: this is part of a BatmanGambit on the part of the writers to induce the player to kill the suspect when given the opportunity, which is a one-way ticket to the BadEnding.]] Later on, after having some time to chill out (like the player characters) he was able to see that the evidence surrounding him just didn't fit and wanted to just get some more info from him.

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* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. Yukari Takeba's father became her main source of hope and believed he was innocent after a traumatic event left her father dead as well as hundreds of other scientists. Said event not only ostracized her family courtesy of the public backlash, but also subsequently strained her relationship with her mother after she abandoned Yukari for other men, being unable to cope with her husband's death. Growing up lonely but willful, Yukari's belief in her father being falsely accused for the accident that claimed his life [[spoiler: was [[spoiler:was the reason she transferred to Gekkoukan Highschool, two years prior before joining S.E.E.S. Couple that with her receiving a letter from her father addressed for her to receive ten years later, was the catalyst for her Persona [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Io's]] awakening.]] Yukari's belief gets severely tested in "The Journey" and for a time after a certain event, was forced to admit that her father was guilty of mass murder, she stays with S.E.E.S. to atone for her father's mistakes. [[spoiler: Eventually [[spoiler:Eventually it's revealed that he only did what he had to do, being one of the few scientists left with their sanity intact he delayed the coming of the end of the world, with that revelation combined with his message of immense love for Yukari, the scene becomes both CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming and RebuiltPedestal rolled into one, being the moment Yukari awakens her ultimate Persona [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Isis]] with a renewed will to fight.]]
* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. After [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a major character is seemingly KilledOffForReal]], the protagonist's surrogate father figure, a by-the-book and thoroughly incorruptible policeman, runs off apparently to kill the man thought responsible; [[spoiler: this [[spoiler:this is part of a BatmanGambit on the part of the writers to induce the player to kill the suspect when given the opportunity, which is a one-way ticket to the BadEnding.]] Later on, after having some time to chill out (like the player characters) he was able to see that the evidence surrounding him just didn't fit and wanted to just get some more info from him.



** Subverted in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater Metal Gear Solid 3]]'', in which we are initially led to believed that Naked Snake's mentor, The Boss, had defected to the Soviet Union. It turns out [[spoiler: that the defection was a ruse to gain Volgin's trust and acquired the Philosophers' Legacy, but after Volgin framed The Boss for the destruction of Sokolov's Research Facility, alerting her presence to Khrushchev, the U.S. sent Snake to kill her and cover up her involvement. This essentially shifts the target of his broken pedestal moment from his mentor to his government. Increases even further in later games when it is revealed that the U.S. government fully intended to have Snake kill off The Boss from the very beginning regardless.]]

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** Subverted in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater Metal Gear Solid 3]]'', in which we are initially led to believed that Naked Snake's mentor, The Boss, had defected to the Soviet Union. It turns out [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that the defection was a ruse to gain Volgin's trust and acquired the Philosophers' Legacy, but after Volgin framed The Boss for the destruction of Sokolov's Research Facility, alerting her presence to Khrushchev, the U.S. sent Snake to kill her and cover up her involvement. This essentially shifts the target of his broken pedestal moment from his mentor to his government. Increases even further in later games when it is revealed that the U.S. government fully intended to have Snake kill off The Boss from the very beginning regardless.]]



** Played completely and tragically straight in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''. [[spoiler: In the post-credits scene of the True Ending, Ocelot tells Kaz of Big Boss's true plan: leaving everyone he ever knew behind so he could conduct his own war against Cipher, building the true "Outer Heaven" without his old comrades, and having the current Diamond Dogs acting as their decoy, complete with creating an exact body double of Big Boss (who is the character you play as throughout the whole game). After losing his comrades, his limbs, and even his dream, Kaz finally gets his revenge on those who wronged him, only to find out that he feels completely hollow and that his best friend is an impostor, the real Big Boss having abandoned him without a goodbye. Having truly lost everything, Kaz furiously swears that Big Boss will pay for his betrayal, and that he will be more than happy to train the phantom and both his sons to oppose him.]]

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** Played completely and tragically straight in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain''. [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In the post-credits scene of the True Ending, Ocelot tells Kaz of Big Boss's true plan: leaving everyone he ever knew behind so he could conduct his own war against Cipher, building the true "Outer Heaven" without his old comrades, and having the current Diamond Dogs acting as their decoy, complete with creating an exact body double of Big Boss (who is the character you play as throughout the whole game). After losing his comrades, his limbs, and even his dream, Kaz finally gets his revenge on those who wronged him, only to find out that he feels completely hollow and that his best friend is an impostor, the real Big Boss having abandoned him without a goodbye. Having truly lost everything, Kaz furiously swears that Big Boss will pay for his betrayal, and that he will be more than happy to train the phantom and both his sons to oppose him.]]



* ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'' has [[spoiler:Super Hero Aurum]], beloved by humans (and some demons) and idolized by Almaz. By the end of the game, you discover that he [[spoiler: has gone out of his way to make Mao into the most horrible villain imaginable, trying to manipulate him into ''attacking the human world'', simply out of boredom from having no "worthy" opponents. And when this fails thanks to the PowerOfFriendship, even the demons of the party call him out for his blatantly villainous actions, with Mao declaring cowardly Almaz a far more superior hero than Aurum.]]
* A minor example in ''VideoGame/Disgaea4APromiseUnforgotten''; "Angel of Avarice" Vulcanus is more than a little put out when she realizes that the Archangel she admires [[spoiler: is none other than the flaky otaku Flonne, who used the money Vulcanus collected to build a giant robot.]]
* [[spoiler: Captian Qwark]] in ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' [[spoiler: Although he performs a HeelFaceTurn by the third game.]]

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* ''VideoGame/{{Disgaea 3|AbsenceOfJustice}}'' has [[spoiler:Super Hero Aurum]], beloved by humans (and some demons) and idolized by Almaz. By the end of the game, you discover that he [[spoiler: has [[spoiler:has gone out of his way to make Mao into the most horrible villain imaginable, trying to manipulate him into ''attacking the human world'', simply out of boredom from having no "worthy" opponents. And when this fails thanks to the PowerOfFriendship, even the demons of the party call him out for his blatantly villainous actions, with Mao declaring cowardly Almaz a far more superior hero than Aurum.]]
* A minor example in ''VideoGame/Disgaea4APromiseUnforgotten''; "Angel of Avarice" Vulcanus is more than a little put out when she realizes that the Archangel she admires [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is none other than the flaky otaku Flonne, who used the money Vulcanus collected to build a giant robot.]]
* [[spoiler: Captian [[spoiler:Captian Qwark]] in ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' [[spoiler: Although [[spoiler:Although he performs a HeelFaceTurn by the third game.]]



** Averted with Granas himself though. Whatever his nature his ideals were genuine and the only thing he was guilty of was coddling his followers far too much, stagnating independant human development (why bother innovating if your god can conjure starships out of thin air?). In the end, [[spoiler: he died sacrificing himself to save his people.]]
*** [[spoiler: The cutscene where Ryudo gets the Granasaber implies that not only is he NotQuiteDead, but that he's actually Skye, Ryudo's eagle partner.]]

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** Averted with Granas himself though. Whatever his nature his ideals were genuine and the only thing he was guilty of was coddling his followers far too much, stagnating independant human development (why bother innovating if your god can conjure starships out of thin air?). In the end, [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he died sacrificing himself to save his people.]]
*** [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The cutscene where Ryudo gets the Granasaber implies that not only is he NotQuiteDead, but that he's actually Skye, Ryudo's eagle partner.]]



* In ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers of Sky'', Wigglytuff's beginnings as an explorer are revealed. As a child, he met Armaldo in a deep forest. Armaldo told the then-Igglybuff that he was a retired explorer, and they went on lots of missions and found lots of treasure. Igglybuff idolised Armaldo and everything was going perfectly well...until Armaldo [[spoiler: got arrested. He was a wanted criminal, not an explorer.]] Igglybuff almost had a mental breakdown and refused to believe that Armaldo was bad, even as he was being led away in custody. Whether they met again after Armaldo got out of prison is unknown.

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* In ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers of Sky'', Wigglytuff's beginnings as an explorer are revealed. As a child, he met Armaldo in a deep forest. Armaldo told the then-Igglybuff that he was a retired explorer, and they went on lots of missions and found lots of treasure. Igglybuff idolised Armaldo and everything was going perfectly well...until Armaldo [[spoiler: got [[spoiler:got arrested. He was a wanted criminal, not an explorer.]] Igglybuff almost had a mental breakdown and refused to believe that Armaldo was bad, even as he was being led away in custody. Whether they met again after Armaldo got out of prison is unknown.



** This occurs again with [[spoiler: your partner and Dusknoir. When it is revealed Dusknoir is from the future and is only here to kill you, your partner, and Grovyle, he/she can hardly believe it until they hear it straight from Dusknoir. It doesn't help that the person you thought was a villain (Grovyle) is actually a hero and that you directly contributed to Grovyle's capture.]]
* Present in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' with [[spoiler: N finding out that he's nothing but a brainwashed child soldier and that his father Ghestis is intent on banning Pokemon use so Team Plasma can "liberate" them all and use their power to conquer Unova]].

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** This occurs again with [[spoiler: your [[spoiler:your partner and Dusknoir. When it is revealed Dusknoir is from the future and is only here to kill you, your partner, and Grovyle, he/she can hardly believe it until they hear it straight from Dusknoir. It doesn't help that the person you thought was a villain (Grovyle) is actually a hero and that you directly contributed to Grovyle's capture.]]
* Present in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' with [[spoiler: N [[spoiler:N finding out that he's nothing but a brainwashed child soldier and that his father Ghestis is intent on banning Pokemon use so Team Plasma can "liberate" them all and use their power to conquer Unova]].



** [[spoiler: Jacob Taylor's father, Ronald, vanished 10 years ago. When they receive a message and go to the unhabited planet to save them, turns out that after his ship crashed and the captain died, Ronald forced the lower crew members to eat the planet's toxic food, which caused their minds to degrade, while they tried to fix a beacon to call for aid. Female crew members were assigned to officers, like pets. A year later, the beacon was ready, but Ronald figured the report would look bad and wanted to stay. He then had the other officers killed. Gradually the degraded males started to rebel, becoming "hunters" as even in a decayed state they knew things weren't right. Ronald held out for ten years, until his supplies ran low and he called for aid. Needless to say, Jacob was utterly disgusted and would've killed his old man, if not for the fact he "wasn't worth pulling the trigger". If your Shepard is a renegade, you can suggest Jacob to give his father a weapon with one bullet. If you pick the neutral option, [[HoistbyHisOwnPetard he will get killed by his own men.]]]]
** And then there is [[spoiler: Rael'Zorah, Tali's father and a part of the Admiralty Board. Her father is found dead on the ship and Tali was accused of treason. When she find out what happened, it turns out Rael'Zorah was willingly endangering his own crew's lives to create a measure to control the Geth much to her horror.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jacob [[spoiler:Jacob Taylor's father, Ronald, vanished 10 years ago. When they receive a message and go to the unhabited planet to save them, turns out that after his ship crashed and the captain died, Ronald forced the lower crew members to eat the planet's toxic food, which caused their minds to degrade, while they tried to fix a beacon to call for aid. Female crew members were assigned to officers, like pets. A year later, the beacon was ready, but Ronald figured the report would look bad and wanted to stay. He then had the other officers killed. Gradually the degraded males started to rebel, becoming "hunters" as even in a decayed state they knew things weren't right. Ronald held out for ten years, until his supplies ran low and he called for aid. Needless to say, Jacob was utterly disgusted and would've killed his old man, if not for the fact he "wasn't worth pulling the trigger". If your Shepard is a renegade, you can suggest Jacob to give his father a weapon with one bullet. If you pick the neutral option, [[HoistbyHisOwnPetard he will get killed by his own men.]]]]
** And then there is [[spoiler: Rael'Zorah, [[spoiler:Rael'Zorah, Tali's father and a part of the Admiralty Board. Her father is found dead on the ship and Tali was accused of treason. When she find out what happened, it turns out Rael'Zorah was willingly endangering his own crew's lives to create a measure to control the Geth much to her horror.]]



** Through the first and second games, the Protheans have been regarded as a race of very advanced and powerful, but benign BenevolentPrecursors. [[spoiler: Then in the third game, we meet [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Javik]], the last Prothean warrior, and find out that the Protheans were actually a highly imperialistic society who conquered anyone they encountered and integrated them into their empire as "subservient races." Liara in particular is quite disappointed, once [[http://youtu.be/HuMWZZLkBnY implies that they were monsters]], and comes to consider her earlier writings on them as foolishly naive.]]
---> [[spoiler: '''Liara''': You're a ''Prothean!'' You were supposed to have all the answers!]]

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** Through the first and second games, the Protheans have been regarded as a race of very advanced and powerful, but benign BenevolentPrecursors. [[spoiler: Then [[spoiler:Then in the third game, we meet [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Javik]], the last Prothean warrior, and find out that the Protheans were actually a highly imperialistic society who conquered anyone they encountered and integrated them into their empire as "subservient races." Liara in particular is quite disappointed, once [[http://youtu.be/HuMWZZLkBnY implies that they were monsters]], and comes to consider her earlier writings on them as foolishly naive.]]
---> [[spoiler: '''Liara''': [[spoiler:'''Liara''': You're a ''Prothean!'' You were supposed to have all the answers!]]



** Liara gets another one when she finds out [[spoiler: her own government has maintained their technological superiority by hiding a Prothean Beacon from the rest of the galaxy, in defiance of Citadel laws]].

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** Liara gets another one when she finds out [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her own government has maintained their technological superiority by hiding a Prothean Beacon from the rest of the galaxy, in defiance of Citadel laws]].



** The Grey Wardens can become this to [[spoiler: Carver if he joined them, after learning that Warden-Commander Larius gave the order to blackmail Malcolm Hawke into performing BloodMagic, because they threatened to kill Leandra if he refused. Particularly as Leandra was ''pregnant'' with his older sibling at the time]].

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** The Grey Wardens can become this to [[spoiler: Carver [[spoiler:Carver if he joined them, after learning that Warden-Commander Larius gave the order to blackmail Malcolm Hawke into performing BloodMagic, because they threatened to kill Leandra if he refused. Particularly as Leandra was ''pregnant'' with his older sibling at the time]].



* ''VideoGame/LaNoire'' has [[spoiler: Cole Phelps, a hero from World War II and a cop who has solved tons of tough cases while sticking within the boundaries of his duties. He goes from patrolman all the way to Vice and the entire department is singing praises for him. However, Phelps is caught having an affair -- with a ''German'', no less -- and those same people start hating his guts while Phelps himself gets demoted to Arson.]]

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* ''VideoGame/LaNoire'' has [[spoiler: Cole [[spoiler:Cole Phelps, a hero from World War II and a cop who has solved tons of tough cases while sticking within the boundaries of his duties. He goes from patrolman all the way to Vice and the entire department is singing praises for him. However, Phelps is caught having an affair -- with a ''German'', no less -- and those same people start hating his guts while Phelps himself gets demoted to Arson.]]



** Kristoph Gavin, the mentor of Apollo in the fourth game ends being [[spoiler: the murderer in the first case]] and [[spoiler: the BigBad of the game]]. Apollo is also livid to find out that [[spoiler: Phoenix, a former ace lawyer whom he treated with the utmost respect, gave him a fake clue to make Kristoph confess to the murder of Shadi Smith]], to the point of ''punching'' him. He only comes to work for him because with Kristoph's arrest, he's out of a job.

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** Kristoph Gavin, the mentor of Apollo in the fourth game ends being [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the murderer in the first case]] and [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the BigBad of the game]]. Apollo is also livid to find out that [[spoiler: Phoenix, [[spoiler:Phoenix, a former ace lawyer whom he treated with the utmost respect, gave him a fake clue to make Kristoph confess to the murder of Shadi Smith]], to the point of ''punching'' him. He only comes to work for him because with Kristoph's arrest, he's out of a job.



** Morgan Fey for Mia and Maya, who both loved their aunt and are upset to find out that she would try to [[spoiler: frame Maya for murder out of jealousy, so that her daughter Pearl could become Master.]]

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** Morgan Fey for Mia and Maya, who both loved their aunt and are upset to find out that she would try to [[spoiler: frame [[spoiler:frame Maya for murder out of jealousy, so that her daughter Pearl could become Master.]]



* In ''VisualNovel/CodeRealize'', [[spoiler: Arsene Lupin's]] mentor betrays the values and morals he'd taught him, instead turning to selfish crime.
** Another example is [[spoiler: Jimmy Aleister]], who personally mentored [[spoiler: Van Helsing]] in the latter's entire career to the point where [[spoiler: both lost their families for their service]]. In a very ugly turn of events, he is revealed to [[spoiler: be an irredeemably twisted criminal mastermind who killed his own family and Van Helsing's all with his own hands, purely for the sake of trying to]] traumatize and [[TheCorrupter corrupt]] his student.

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* In ''VisualNovel/CodeRealize'', [[spoiler: Arsene [[spoiler:Arsene Lupin's]] mentor betrays the values and morals he'd taught him, instead turning to selfish crime.
** Another example is [[spoiler: Jimmy [[spoiler:Jimmy Aleister]], who personally mentored [[spoiler: Van [[spoiler:Van Helsing]] in the latter's entire career to the point where [[spoiler: both [[spoiler:both lost their families for their service]]. In a very ugly turn of events, he is revealed to [[spoiler: be [[spoiler:be an irredeemably twisted criminal mastermind who killed his own family and Van Helsing's all with his own hands, purely for the sake of trying to]] traumatize and [[TheCorrupter corrupt]] his student.



* Happens in ''Webcomic/{{Juathuur}}''...sort of. [[spoiler: actually, Arvval stands by his principles from beginning to end. But when Faevv strays from her path, his bigotry becomes apparent and they don't really get along anymore.]]

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* Happens in ''Webcomic/{{Juathuur}}''...sort of. [[spoiler: actually, [[spoiler:actually, Arvval stands by his principles from beginning to end. But when Faevv strays from her path, his bigotry becomes apparent and they don't really get along anymore.]]



* ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl'' has [[spoiler: Alejandro, Paulo's original "coolness teacher," which was really just Paulo being messed with by the older kid.]]

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* ''Webcomic/BittersweetCandyBowl'' has [[spoiler: Alejandro, [[spoiler:Alejandro, Paulo's original "coolness teacher," which was really just Paulo being messed with by the older kid.]]



** In the beginning of the story, [[TheHeart Elan]] positively adores [[AmbiguousGender Vaarsuvius]], to the point where Elan dresses as a wizard to try to be like him/her. However, after [[spoiler: Therkla, a ninja who had a crush on Elan, dies, Elan is extremely upset and Vaarsuvius simply is unconcerned about it, caring more about the danger to the world for the quest they are on. V also disintegrates Kubota without knowing what Kubota did, and accuses Elan of cheating on Haley with Therkla when he expresses sympathy for Therkla's unrequited love for him. V's cruelty causes Elan to abandon him.]]
** Miko Miyazaki had a very troubled life, being orphaned at an early age and raised in a monastery. She found comfort in serving the Twelve Gods and Lord Shojo, serving him even when he became old and senile. Hinjo, Shojo's nephew, serves his uncle, the only family he has left, just as faithfully. When [[spoiler: Shojo is revealed to have lied to them about his senility, the Gates, and working with Belkar Bitterleaf and Roy, just having found out an army of hobgoblins is on the way, Miko and Hinjo are both crushed. Hinjo reacts lawfully, by wanting to try Shojo after dealing with the hobgoblins. Miko takes a different approach, and cuts Shojo in half.]]

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** In the beginning of the story, [[TheHeart Elan]] positively adores [[AmbiguousGender Vaarsuvius]], to the point where Elan dresses as a wizard to try to be like him/her. However, after [[spoiler: Therkla, [[spoiler:Therkla, a ninja who had a crush on Elan, dies, Elan is extremely upset and Vaarsuvius simply is unconcerned about it, caring more about the danger to the world for the quest they are on. V also disintegrates Kubota without knowing what Kubota did, and accuses Elan of cheating on Haley with Therkla when he expresses sympathy for Therkla's unrequited love for him. V's cruelty causes Elan to abandon him.]]
** Miko Miyazaki had a very troubled life, being orphaned at an early age and raised in a monastery. She found comfort in serving the Twelve Gods and Lord Shojo, serving him even when he became old and senile. Hinjo, Shojo's nephew, serves his uncle, the only family he has left, just as faithfully. When [[spoiler: Shojo [[spoiler:Shojo is revealed to have lied to them about his senility, the Gates, and working with Belkar Bitterleaf and Roy, just having found out an army of hobgoblins is on the way, Miko and Hinjo are both crushed. Hinjo reacts lawfully, by wanting to try Shojo after dealing with the hobgoblins. Miko takes a different approach, and cuts Shojo in half.]]



* Parodied in ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTheMentallyAdvancedSeries'': Starlight Glimmer's StartOfDarkness was when her cute childhood friend, whom she was convinced was going to be hot when he was older, moved away. [[spoiler: She finds out from Twilight that he was at best a '7 out of 10' and that was ''before'' he contracted herpes.]] She's very disappointed and loses all interest in him and continuing to be evil.

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* Parodied in ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTheMentallyAdvancedSeries'': Starlight Glimmer's StartOfDarkness was when her cute childhood friend, whom she was convinced was going to be hot when he was older, moved away. [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She finds out from Twilight that he was at best a '7 out of 10' and that was ''before'' he contracted herpes.]] She's very disappointed and loses all interest in him and continuing to be evil.



* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' does this to some extent in the episode, "Beware the Gray Ghost". The eponymous character (voiced by Creator/AdamWest) was the hero of an in-universe TV show that Bruce Wayne loved as a child, and an inspiration to the latter's own vigilantism. The actor, although not mean, is a bitter old man who has suffered from longterm unemployment, and briefly [[CreatorBacklash grows to hate his old role]]. Batman is quite disappointed when this RealityEnsues, but once it turns out that rediscovering the past is vital to solving a crime, [[spoiler: the actor fortunately rediscovers his passion, aids Batman on his quest, and the episode ends on a very high note]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' does this to some extent in the episode, "Beware the Gray Ghost". The eponymous character (voiced by Creator/AdamWest) was the hero of an in-universe TV show that Bruce Wayne loved as a child, and an inspiration to the latter's own vigilantism. The actor, although not mean, is a bitter old man who has suffered from longterm unemployment, and briefly [[CreatorBacklash grows to hate his old role]]. Batman is quite disappointed when this RealityEnsues, but once it turns out that rediscovering the past is vital to solving a crime, [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the actor fortunately rediscovers his passion, aids Batman on his quest, and the episode ends on a very high note]].



** Brock Samson's mentor Colonel Hunter Gathers is thought to have gone rogue and Brock is sent on a mission to hunt him down and kill him. Brock is disgusted to find that his mentor, who insisted on never killing women or children, apparently killed the woman he'd slept with the night before (she turns out not to be dead, but Brock doesn't know that). [[spoiler: In the end, we see that his mentor ran off to get a perfectly innocent sex change, and the morals he passed down to Brock invalidated the now-female mentor as a target.]] Though as it turns out in season 4, he [[spoiler: really did go rogue...but he wanted to do things his own way rather than following OSI's strict policies]]. And with the Season 4 finale, it appears that [[spoiler: Colonel Gathers is the new commander of OSI, letting him come full circle.]]

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** Brock Samson's mentor Colonel Hunter Gathers is thought to have gone rogue and Brock is sent on a mission to hunt him down and kill him. Brock is disgusted to find that his mentor, who insisted on never killing women or children, apparently killed the woman he'd slept with the night before (she turns out not to be dead, but Brock doesn't know that). [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In the end, we see that his mentor ran off to get a perfectly innocent sex change, and the morals he passed down to Brock invalidated the now-female mentor as a target.]] Though as it turns out in season 4, he [[spoiler: really [[spoiler:really did go rogue...rogue... but he wanted to do things his own way rather than following OSI's strict policies]]. And with the Season 4 finale, it appears that [[spoiler: Colonel [[spoiler:Colonel Gathers is the new commander of OSI, letting him come full circle.]]



* In Book 2 of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Zuko is suddenly exposed to the horrors of what his beloved Fire Nation is actually doing to the world. He shoves it aside for a while, though, [[spoiler: and helps Azula defeat Aang so he can return to the Fire Nation, where he's welcomed back by their father, Fire Lord Ozai]] and almost goes completely back to his old self, until [[spoiler: Azula and Ozai plot to incinerate the entire Earth Kingdom, and he can no longer deny he's on the wrong side of the war.]]

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* In Book 2 of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Zuko is suddenly exposed to the horrors of what his beloved Fire Nation is actually doing to the world. He shoves it aside for a while, though, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and helps Azula defeat Aang so he can return to the Fire Nation, where he's welcomed back by their father, Fire Lord Ozai]] and almost goes completely back to his old self, until [[spoiler: Azula [[spoiler:Azula and Ozai plot to incinerate the entire Earth Kingdom, and he can no longer deny he's on the wrong side of the war.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' has this between Megatron and Orion Pax [[spoiler: in the beginning of season 2]]. Millennia ago, they were both heroic until Orion Pax's becoming Optimus Prime caused Megatronus' jealousy to lead him to becoming the villainous Megatron. [[spoiler:When Optimus loses his memory, Megatron quickly resumes the master-pupil relationship for as long as he can until Orion starts figuring out that Megatronus isn't quite as noble as he remembers.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' has this between Megatron and Orion Pax [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in the beginning of season 2]]. Millennia ago, they were both heroic until Orion Pax's becoming Optimus Prime caused Megatronus' jealousy to lead him to becoming the villainous Megatron. [[spoiler:When Optimus loses his memory, Megatron quickly resumes the master-pupil relationship for as long as he can until Orion starts figuring out that Megatronus isn't quite as noble as he remembers.]]



** Danielle, [[spoiler: Valerie, and Jack]] lose admiration, loyalty and respect for Vlad once they see his true colors by the end of the series.

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** Danielle, [[spoiler: Valerie, [[spoiler:Valerie, and Jack]] lose admiration, loyalty and respect for Vlad once they see his true colors by the end of the series.



* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': Finn finds out his dad is trapped in the Citadel and is excited to meet him, even giving him the benefit of the doubt for abandoning him as a baby. [[spoiler: But upon meeting his dad, Martin, he behaves like a {{Jerkass}} and doesn't even give Finn a real explanation for abandoning him in the forest. Then after Finn heals his injured leg, Martin proceeds to abandon Finn again for a group of escaped criminals. During said escape causes Finn's arm to get ripped off. Can you blame Finn for wanting revenge afterwards?]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'': Finn finds out his dad is trapped in the Citadel and is excited to meet him, even giving him the benefit of the doubt for abandoning him as a baby. [[spoiler: But [[spoiler:But upon meeting his dad, Martin, he behaves like a {{Jerkass}} and doesn't even give Finn a real explanation for abandoning him in the forest. Then after Finn heals his injured leg, Martin proceeds to abandon Finn again for a group of escaped criminals. During said escape causes Finn's arm to get ripped off. Can you blame Finn for wanting revenge afterwards?]]



** In the season five episode "Rarity Investigates", Rainbow Dash meets her idol Wind Rider, a famous Wonderbolt who holds the Wonderbolt record in the Mustang Marathon. However, when Rainbow Dash is framed for the crime of getting rid of Spitfire so she can take her place in the Wonderbolts show, and will be kicked off the Wonderbolts reserves if she doesn't prove her innocence, Rarity takes matters into her own hands and her own investigation reveals [[spoiler: that Wind Rider was behind it all. He sent Spitfire away with a fake note that her mother was sick and framed Rainbow Dash by cutting off some of her hair and planting it. Why? Because he was afraid Rainbow Dash would break his flight record, and with her out of the way, his record would be totally secure. If lying and screwing around with Spitfire's personal life in order to sabotage Rainbow Dash's future for such a petty and selfish reason wasn't bad enough, Wind Rider is also revealed to be an extremely narcissistic SmugSuper who self-admits he isn't above playing dirty to get ahead, even if it means screwing over his teammates. Needless to say, Wind Rider's pedestal crumbled pretty quickly, and he was swiftly booted off the Wonderbolts team.]]

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** In the season five episode "Rarity Investigates", Rainbow Dash meets her idol Wind Rider, a famous Wonderbolt who holds the Wonderbolt record in the Mustang Marathon. However, when Rainbow Dash is framed for the crime of getting rid of Spitfire so she can take her place in the Wonderbolts show, and will be kicked off the Wonderbolts reserves if she doesn't prove her innocence, Rarity takes matters into her own hands and her own investigation reveals [[spoiler: that [[spoiler:that Wind Rider was behind it all. He sent Spitfire away with a fake note that her mother was sick and framed Rainbow Dash by cutting off some of her hair and planting it. Why? Because he was afraid Rainbow Dash would break his flight record, and with her out of the way, his record would be totally secure. If lying and screwing around with Spitfire's personal life in order to sabotage Rainbow Dash's future for such a petty and selfish reason wasn't bad enough, Wind Rider is also revealed to be an extremely narcissistic SmugSuper who self-admits he isn't above playing dirty to get ahead, even if it means screwing over his teammates. Needless to say, Wind Rider's pedestal crumbled pretty quickly, and he was swiftly booted off the Wonderbolts team.]]



** The event described above, and TheReveal that Rose [[spoiler:''shattered'' Pink Diamond]] has deeply affected Steven's perception of Rose. [[spoiler: Though recent events in the beginning of Season 5 come to question that Rose may or may not have actually done the shattering after all]].

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** The event described above, and TheReveal that Rose [[spoiler:''shattered'' Pink Diamond]] has deeply affected Steven's perception of Rose. [[spoiler: Though [[spoiler:Though recent events in the beginning of Season 5 come to question that Rose may or may not have actually done the shattering after all]].



* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndScrappyDoo'': Shaggy, Scrappy, and Scooby are all horrified when they believe their favorite comic book character has come to life and is acting like a villain. [[spoiler: Of course, [[ScoobyDooHoax it's just a hoax perpetuated by an assistant to the creator of that character]]. The assistant wanted to create his own comic book character because he no longer wanted to be an unknown assistant.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooAndScrappyDoo'': Shaggy, Scrappy, and Scooby are all horrified when they believe their favorite comic book character has come to life and is acting like a villain. [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course, [[ScoobyDooHoax it's just a hoax perpetuated by an assistant to the creator of that character]]. The assistant wanted to create his own comic book character because he no longer wanted to be an unknown assistant.]]
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* Alder to Trip in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime.

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* Alder to Trip in the ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' anime.''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
20th Sep '17 11:38:59 AM TheSinful
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* In ''[[http://cartoon.adult-fanfiction.org/story.php?no=600095039 How I Learned to Love the Wild Horse]]'', Ranma always believed that his father didn't use the Umi-Sen Ken to steal beyond pickpocketing because it was too horrible even for him. He eventually learns that the technique doesn't work on cameras and thus his father never used it because he'd have to rob several lower income places rather than one mansion or museum and be set for life. Ranma actually admits he didn't think his opinion of his father could sink any lower, but learning that he didn't steal because he was too lazy is a new low.
20th Sep '17 10:14:29 AM nighttrainfm
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** Andalites in general for all of the kids.

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** Andalites in general for all of the kids. They start out viewing the war as a holding action until the Andalites get there to save them. It slowly becomes clear that a) this will take a while, and b) the Andalites aren't above shady tactics and won't necessarily have Earth's best interests at heart.
19th Sep '17 11:25:13 PM Hanz
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* PlayedForLaughs with FourthWallObserver Raiho in ''RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy''. Raiho was originally a Jack Frost who profoundly admired Raidou and wished to become Raidou the Fifteenth, fusing himself with a Bancho uniform to create Raiho. The funny part? Raiho ''defines'' SmallNameBigEgo, and promptly forgets his fanboying of Raidou, realizing he's so much cooler now.

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* In ''Videogame/Persona5'', Yusuke Kitagawa was raised by the famed artist Ichiryusai Madarame, who has been plagarizing him and other apprentices for years. After learning that [[spoiler:Madarame let Yusuke's mother die in order to take credit for her work as well as to take Yusuke]], he loses all sense of admiration for the man. His personal Confidant storyline deals heavily with his feelings regarding his former mentor. He eventually comes to peace with him after a former colleague of Madarame stated that when Yusuke fell ill as a child, Madarame was desperate to save him, indicating at least some sense of affection (albeit [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic]]).
* PlayedForLaughs with FourthWallObserver Raiho in ''RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy''.''Videogame/RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy''. Raiho was originally a Jack Frost who profoundly admired Raidou and wished to become Raidou the Fifteenth, fusing himself with a Bancho uniform to create Raiho. The funny part? Raiho ''defines'' SmallNameBigEgo, and promptly forgets his fanboying of Raidou, realizing he's so much cooler now.
19th Sep '17 5:55:44 PM CourtDogs
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** The event described above, and TheReveal that Rose [[spoiler:''shattered'' Pink Diamond]] has deeply affected Steven's perception of Rose.

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*** In return, Bismuth herself became one to the remaining Crystal Gems, who still thought of her as still dedicated to their cause of protecting the Earth and a potential leader in Rose's absence. But when they find out that she tried to kill Rose (and Steven) over an [[MoralEventHorizon ethical issue]] regarding [[GreyAndGreyMorality Homeworld's supporters]], and that she was [[TheUnfettered willing to even kill her own closest friends over it]] [[RevengeBeforeReason (putting her own personal goals of vengeance as her first priority)]], they become [[EtTuBrute heartbroken]] at her [[FaceHeelTurn betrayal]] and agree with Steven to keep her sealed away.
** The event described above, and TheReveal that Rose [[spoiler:''shattered'' Pink Diamond]] has deeply affected Steven's perception of Rose. [[spoiler: Though recent events in the beginning of Season 5 come to question that Rose may or may not have actually done the shattering after all]].
17th Sep '17 11:24:41 AM VampireBuddha
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* In the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' series, this applies to (in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Path of Radiance]]'') [[spoiler:Most of the Begnion senators]], and (in ''Radiant Dawn'') [[spoiler:The god that most of the populace worshiped]].

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* In the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' series, this applies to (in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Path of Radiance]]'') [[spoiler:Most of the Begnion senators]], and (in ''Radiant Dawn'') [[spoiler:The god that most of the populace worshiped]]. There are also {{inver|ted trope}}s: Micaiah dismisses Sothe's constant praise of Ike as exaggerated at best, while Soren describes Micaiah, not without reason, as the figurehead of a zealous fanatic movement. When they all team up in the finale, they see that all the praise really is warranted.
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11674317/19/When-Harry-met-Wednesday When Harry met Wednesday]]'', besides Harry losing faith in Dumbledore, most of the Order of the Phoenix does as well because his habit of withholding information costs several of them severely. Of the three Order members who help Dumbledore attempt to retrieve one of Voldemort's horcruxes, only Tonks survives. Things actually reach the point that not only does Tonks quit and encourage everyone else to as well, but Moody demands Dumbledore disband the Order of the Phoenix before he gets everyone killed.
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