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25th Aug '16 10:16:28 AM JPMFES
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* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. Yukari Takeba's father became her main source of hope after a traumatic accident event left her father dead as well as hundreds of other scientist, said event not only ostracized her family courtesy of the public but also subsequently strained her relationship with her mother after she abandoned Yukari for other men, being unable to cope with her husbands death. Growing up lonely but willful Yukari's belief in her father being falsely accused for the accident that claimed his life [[spoiler: was the reason she transferred to Gekkoukan Highschool, two years prior before joining S.E.E.S. couple that with her receiving a letter from her father address for her to receive ten years later, was the catalyst for her Persona [[Myth/GreekMythology Io's]] awakening.]] Yukari's belief gets severely tested in "The Journey" and for a time after a certain event, was forced to admit that her father was guilty of mass murder. [[spoiler: Eventually it's revealed that he only did what he had to do, being one of the few scientist left with their sanity intact he delayed the coming of the end the world, with that revelation combined with his message of immense love for Yukari, the scene becomes both CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming and RebuiltPedestal rolled into one, being the moment Yukari awakens her ultimate Persona [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Isis]] with a renewed will to fight.]]

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* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. Yukari Takeba's father became her main source of hope and believed he was innocent after a traumatic accident event left her father dead as well as hundreds of other scientist, said event not only ostracized her family courtesy of the public but also subsequently strained her relationship with her mother after she abandoned Yukari for other men, being unable to cope with her husbands death. Growing up lonely but willful Yukari's belief in her father being falsely accused for the accident that claimed his life [[spoiler: was the reason she transferred to Gekkoukan Highschool, two years prior before joining S.E.E.S. couple that with her receiving a letter from her father address for her to receive ten years later, was the catalyst for her Persona [[Myth/GreekMythology Io's]] awakening.]] Yukari's belief gets severely tested in "The Journey" and for a time after a certain event, was forced to admit that her father was guilty of mass murder.murder, she stays with S.E.E.S. to atone for her fathers mistakes. [[spoiler: Eventually it's revealed that he only did what he had to do, being one of the few scientist left with their sanity intact he delayed the coming of the end the world, with that revelation combined with his message of immense love for Yukari, the scene becomes both CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming and RebuiltPedestal rolled into one, being the moment Yukari awakens her ultimate Persona [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Isis]] with a renewed will to fight.]]
24th Aug '16 8:24:37 AM JPMFES
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* Played with in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}''. Yukari Takeba's father became her main source of hope after a traumatic accident event left her father dead as well as hundreds of other scientist, said event not only ostracized her family courtesy of the public but also subsequently strained her relationship with her mother after she abandoned Yukari for other men, being unable to cope with her husbands death. Growing up lonely but willful Yukari's belief in her father being falsely accused for the accident that claimed his life [[spoiler: was the reason she transferred to Gekkoukan Highschool, two years prior before joining S.E.E.S. couple that with her receiving a letter from her father address for her to receive ten years later, was the catalyst for her Persona [[Myth/GreekMythology Io's]] awakening.]] Yukari's belief gets severely tested in "The Journey" and for a time after a certain event, was forced to admit that her father was guilty of mass murder. [[spoiler: Eventually it's revealed that he only did what he had to do, being one of the few scientist left with their sanity intact he delayed the coming of the end the world, with that revelation combined with his message of immense love for Yukari, the scene becomes both CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming and RebuiltPedestal rolled into one, being the moment Yukari awakens her ultimate Persona [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Isis]] with a renewed will to fight.]]
17th Aug '16 8:40:48 PM DuelMark
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* This trope is a major theme with Dr Harrison Wells in ''Series/TheFlash2014''. When we first meet him, he is a well-loved public figure and the most eminent scientist of his generation. After his particle accelerator explodes, he becomes a pariah to most of the city. Caitlin, Cisco and Barry still look up to him as a hero and a mentor, but cracks start to appear in his pedestal even to them when Hartley Rathaway returns seeking revenge on Wells for ruining his career [[spoiler: after he discovered the particle accelerator was intended to fail]]. Dr Wells manages to retain their faith in him by finally owning up to his mistakes, but then the plot happens and [[spoiler: Barry starts to suspect that he is actually the Reverse Flash. Cisco and Caitlin are reluctant to believe him, but Wells' actions after his identity is revealed cause even his two closest friends to turn on him.]]

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* This trope is a major theme with Dr Harrison Wells in ''Series/TheFlash2014''. ''Series/TheFlash2014''.
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When we first meet him, Harrison Wells, he is a well-loved public figure and the most eminent scientist of his generation. After his particle accelerator explodes, he becomes a pariah to most of the city. Caitlin, Cisco and Barry still look up to him as a hero and a mentor, but cracks start to appear in his pedestal even to them when Hartley Rathaway returns seeking revenge on Wells for ruining his career [[spoiler: after he discovered the particle accelerator was intended to fail]]. Dr Wells manages to retain their faith in him by finally owning up to his mistakes, but then the plot happens and [[spoiler: Barry starts to suspect that he is actually the Reverse Flash. Cisco and Caitlin are reluctant to believe him, but Wells' actions after his identity is revealed cause even his two closest friends to turn on him.]] ]]
** Jay Garrick, the Flash of Earth 2, became good friends with Team Flash, even starting a romance with Caitlin, while they try to defeat [[BigBad Zoom]]. When it appears he is killed by Zoom, Barry constructs a small monument to Jay, with his helmet in a glass case, vowing to honor him. Unfortunately, when they start noticing certain clues about Zoom, they have Cisco use his powers to confirm what they're figuring out... [[spoiler: Jay is Zoom. It would later be revealed his real name is Hunter Zolomon, a serial killer who kidnapped the ''real'' Jay Garrick from another Earth and stole his identity, and has been making Barry get faster to steal his speed]]. In a literal sense of this trope, when Barry gets suspicious, he shatters the glass container on the pedestal Jay's helmet was resting on.
15th Aug '16 11:46:22 PM PaulA
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* The Literature/VorkosiganSaga features several of these, as Miles' generation encounters the fallout of some really horrible things done in the previous generation. Major examples include Miles and Elena learning about [[spoiler: Sergeant Bothari's mental instability and the atrocities he committed while working for Admiral Vorrutyer]] in ''Warrior's Apprentice'', and Emperor Gregor's depression and self-destructive behavior in ''The Vor Game'' when he first learns that his father Prince Serg wasn't the hero Barrayaran history makes him out to be, but rather whose death in a botched invasion was the best thing that could have happened to Barrayar.

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* The Literature/VorkosiganSaga features several of these, as Miles' generation encounters the fallout of some really horrible things done in the previous generation. Major examples include ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
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Miles Vorkosigan and Elena Bothari learning about [[spoiler: Sergeant [[spoiler:Sergeant Bothari's mental instability and the atrocities he committed while working for Admiral Vorrutyer]] in ''Warrior's Apprentice'', and ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice''.
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Emperor Gregor's depression and self-destructive behavior in ''The Vor Game'' ''Literature/TheVorGame'' when he first learns that his father Prince Serg wasn't the hero Barrayaran history makes him out to be, but rather whose death in a botched invasion was the best thing that could have happened to Barrayar.
13th Aug '16 9:39:54 PM fdsa1234567890
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** The detective who taught Beckett everything she knew [[spoiler:though she did chase his killer to Los Angeles]]

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** The detective training officer who taught Beckett everything she knew betrayed her for a chance to find a treasure, [[spoiler:though she did chase his killer to Los Angeles]]Angeles]]. Just two episodes after this, [[spoiler: Captain Montgomery]], who was her mentor as a detective turns out to [[spoiler: be involved in her mother's death]].
12th Aug '16 2:43:49 AM leraluna
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** Daenerys Targaryen suffers this when she learns from Barristan Selmy that the stories of her father being "the [[TheCaligula Mad King]]" weren't just lies. In a similar vein, Cersei Lannister's view of her father Tywin was broken when she found a dead prostitute in his bed. She had always believed her father was above sleeping with prostitutes, and desperately grasps at alternative explanations for her presence.

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** Daenerys Targaryen suffers this when she learns from Barristan Selmy that the stories of her father being "the [[TheCaligula Mad King]]" weren't just lies.
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In a similar vein, Cersei Lannister's view of her father Tywin was broken when she found a dead prostitute in his bed. She had always believed her father was above sleeping with prostitutes, and desperately grasps at alternative explanations for her presence.presence.
** Jon Snow has few himself:
*** He heard wonders about Robert Baratheon from his father, but is somewhat disappointed when he sees he's now an AdiposeRex.
*** The Order of the Night's Watch itself comes as a considerable disappointment to Jon. It takes him quite a while to adapt.
*** A bit with his father too. Although he loves Ned, thinks highly of him and defends him when someone puts his honor in doubt, sometimes he can not help but feel a "little evil voice" that whispers to him that his father ''did'' actually father a bastard out of wedlock. His refuse to ever talk about [[MissingMom his mother]] doesn't help either. Also, after seeing what the Night's Watch was actually like, Jon expresses that he has the feeling that Ned sent him there with full awareness of what transpired in The Wall just to not have to deal with him and make nice with Catelyn.
10th Aug '16 2:11:11 PM AG1995
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** The event described above, and TheReveal that [[spoiler:Rose ''shattered'' Pink Diamond]] has deeply affected Steven's perception of that person.
10th Aug '16 12:06:12 PM Raygunguy
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* One Saturday morning cartoon special about the 10 Commandments. In the "Thou shalt not worship false idols" segment, the dumber of the kids finds himself among crumbling statues of sports and rock-and-roll idols, although exactly ''why'' these kinds of idols aren't good (other than "not being God") isn't explored or has been lost to memory.

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* One Saturday morning cartoon ''The Kingdom Chums'' special "The Original Top Ten" is about the 10 Commandments.commandments. In the "Thou shalt not worship false idols" segment, the dumber of the kids finds himself among crumbling statues of sports and rock-and-roll idols, although exactly ''why'' these kinds of idols aren't good (other than "not being God") isn't explored or has been lost to memory.
8th Aug '16 4:11:21 PM Blueeyedrat
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* In ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', [[spoiler:Peridot]] has a variant on this where it's not so much ethics as it is personality that breaks the pedestal. She holds up [[spoiler:Yellow Diamond]] as the most brilliant, rational, objective person in the universe, then, over the course of a brief conversation, learns that [[spoiler:Yellow Diamond]] is in fact motivated largely by pettiness and spite, and is unwilling to pursue any course of action that isn't "blow up the Earth because screw Rose Quartz, that's why." [[spoiler:Peridot]] does not take it well.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'', ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'':
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[[spoiler:Peridot]] has a variant on this where it's not so much ethics as it is personality that breaks the pedestal. She holds up her leader, [[spoiler:Yellow Diamond]] Diamond]], as the most brilliant, rational, objective person being in the universe, then, over universe. Over the course of a brief conversation, learns she discovers that [[spoiler:Yellow Diamond]] is in fact motivated largely by pettiness and spite, and the latter [[RevengeBeforeReason is unwilling to pursue any course of action action]] that isn't "blow up the Earth because screw Rose Quartz, that's why." [[EvilIsPetty out of spite]]". [[spoiler:Peridot]] [[DidYouJustFlipOffCthulhu does not take it well.well]], [[spoiler:cementing her HeelFaceTurn in the process]].
** During the [[GreatOffscreenWar Gem War]], [[spoiler:Bismuth]] was a devoted follower of [[spoiler:Rose Quartz]] and her ideals, but the two had a falling out when the former showed signs of JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope, resulting in a confrontation and [[spoiler:Bismuth]] being [[SealedGoodInACan sealed away]] for millennia. When Steven releases her in the present, she still carries some resentment over said confrontation, and learning that [[spoiler:Rose [[WhatYouAreInTheDark never told their friends what happened to her]]]] doesn't help matters. [[spoiler:After she forces Steven to strike her down, he tells her that he won't make the same mistakes Rose did; Bismuth tells him that [[RebuiltPedestal he's already a better person than Rose was]].]]
2nd Aug '16 7:31:42 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ARG ''ARG/HuntTheTruth'', a number of people feel this towards the Master Chief after video surfaces of him seemingly attacking an interspecies peace conference. [[spoiler:The pedestal is rebuilt when it's revealed that he was actually trying to save the delegates from human-supremacist terrorists.]]

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* In the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ARG ''ARG/HuntTheTruth'', a number of people feel this way towards the Master Chief after video footage surfaces of him seemingly attacking an interspecies peace conference. [[spoiler:The pedestal is rebuilt when it's revealed that he was actually trying to save the delegates from human-supremacist terrorists.]]
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