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6th Nov '17 3:28:19 PM corruptmalemenace
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*** The original line there, meanwhile, is perhaps even worse, because what her mother actually says is that you should be happy with your body ''because you are a shape boys find sexy''. Presumably girls without the "little more booty" which would permit them to nocturnally pleasure the boys - or girls who, god forbid, don't especially want to have their asses held by boys at all - are plain out of luck as far as Megan's mother cares. What matters isn't loving your body; it's having a body which is loved by boys.
6th Nov '17 11:21:05 AM MagBas
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* JosephAndTheAmazingTechnicolorDreamcoat: Perhaps inevitable given the inescapable ValuesDissonance in attempting to retell an OldTestament story in a hip, modern way. While Joseph's brothers are obviously wrong to try and kill him out of jealously, their implied "correct" course of action resigning themselves to their father's blatant favoritism and accepting with good humor Joseph's premonition that they are forever destined to be subordinate to him seems a bit hard to swallow.
6th Nov '17 8:56:28 AM louisXVI
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** Doug Walker once made a plea in an editorial, "Is Parody Dead?", that parodies should not just be references and that they all need to be a clear understanding of what you are spoofing. A good message, yet in most of his own videos, including ''Nostalgia Critic'', ''Demo Reel'' and his anniversary specials, he makes countless random pop culture references and spoofs that often don't even tie in with the plot of that episode. He and his actors often just dress up as well-known franchise characters, though this in order to avoid having their content removed for using clips from the source material.

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** Doug Walker once made a plea in an editorial, "Is Parody Dead?", that parodies should not just be references and that they all need to be a clear understanding of what you are spoofing. A good message, yet in most of his own videos, including ''Nostalgia Critic'', ''Demo Reel'' and his anniversary specials, he makes countless random pop culture references and spoofs that often don't even tie in with the plot of that episode. He and his actors often just dress up as well-known franchise characters, though this is in order to avoid having their content removed by YouTube for using clips from the copywritten source material.
5th Nov '17 7:53:55 AM louisXVI
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* The Gingerbread House in the Forest has Johann chastising Gretel for assuming Nada is a witch just because she [[SinisterSchnoz is ugly]]. Of course, Nada ''is'' a witch.

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* The Gingerbread House in the Forest GingerbreadHouseInTheForest has Johann chastising Gretel for assuming Nada is a witch just because she [[SinisterSchnoz is ugly]]. Of course, Nada ''is'' a witch.


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* JosephAndTheAmazingTechnicolorDreamcoat: Perhaps inevitable given the inescapable ValuesDissonance in attempting to retell an OldTestament story in a hip, modern way. While Joseph's brothers are obviously wrong to try and kill him out of jealously, their implied "correct" course of action resigning themselves to their father's blatant favoritism and accepting with good humor Joseph's premonition that they are forever destined to be subordinate to him seems a bit hard to swallow.
18th Oct '17 5:19:41 AM UchuuFlamenco
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* The animated music video for Teddyloid's [[=ME!ME!ME!=]] is pretty intense and is subject to a few varying interpretations, but the message is laid out fairly clearly no matter which one you go with: mass-produced, consumer-driven sexuality is damaging and unsatisfying compared to real relationships. For all the otherwise well-done and disturbingly powerful imagery, it contrasts the mass-produced {{Moe}} sex kittens with the "real" girl by... having the real girl look more or less exactly like them, except she [[MadonnaWhoreComplex dresses modestly and]] [[DamselInDistress is crying helplessly and in danger]]. It's really not helping the message to design your bad-girl villains according to the emotionally-manipulative design tropes of the {{Moe}} type, and then use those exact same emotionally-manipulative design tropes to make your good-girl damsel more sympathetic to the audience.

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* The animated music video for Teddyloid's [[=ME!ME!ME!=]] [[Anime/JapanAnimatorExpo ME!ME!ME!]] is pretty intense and is subject to a few varying interpretations, but the message is laid out fairly clearly no matter which one you go with: mass-produced, consumer-driven sexuality is damaging and unsatisfying compared to real relationships. For all the otherwise well-done and disturbingly powerful imagery, it contrasts the mass-produced {{Moe}} sex kittens with the "real" girl by... having the real girl look more or less exactly like them, except she [[MadonnaWhoreComplex dresses modestly and]] [[DamselInDistress is crying helplessly and in danger]]. It's really not helping the message to design your bad-girl villains according to the emotionally-manipulative design tropes of the {{Moe}} type, and then use those exact same emotionally-manipulative design tropes to make your good-girl damsel more sympathetic to the audience.
7th Oct '17 4:13:54 PM MBG
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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'', present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and a child of destiny who deserves nothing but scorn and disgust, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as without fault.

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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'', present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the original story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and with a child of destiny dumb name who deserves nothing but scorn and disgust, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as without fault.
7th Oct '17 1:17:55 PM MBG
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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'', present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and a child of destiny, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as completely different.

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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'', present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and a child of destiny, destiny who deserves nothing but scorn and disgust, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as completely different.without fault.
7th Oct '17 1:16:11 PM MBG
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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'' present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and a child of destiny, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as completely different.

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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'' ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'', present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and a child of destiny, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as completely different.
7th Oct '17 1:15:45 PM MBG
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* Many MarySueHunter stories, most famously ''WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum'' present the moral of "{{Mary Sue}}s are wrong, because overpowered characters who have too much focus and exist as vehicles for the author's fantasies rob the story of its tension and come off as insulting to it." The problem is that, by definition, the "hunter" character has to be even more powerful than the Mary Sue, they're almost invariably the main focus of the story rather than the actual original protagonists and their job is seen as essential and all-important, they're always {{Author Avatar}}s to some degree, their victory is a ForegoneConclusion and their targets are treated as SmugSnake {{Hate Sink}}s who [[CurbStompBattle lose the moment]] they don't have PlotArmor, and their entire existence is based on [[TakeThat taking someone else's character and murdering them.]] Sometimes this gets lampshaded, subverted, or justified, and often HeWhoFightsMonsters is introduced, but just as many introduce a sparkly elven princess and a child of destiny, and then treat the dimension-hopping, shapeshifting, universally-ordained hunter dripping in technology who shoots her through the head as completely different.
21st Sep '17 6:29:31 AM HighCrate
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->''"You can't have an anti-gun message when you clearly '''used guns to solve your problem!''' It just doesn't work!"''

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->''"You can't have an anti-gun message when you clearly '''used used guns to solve your problem!''' problem! It just doesn't work!"''
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