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15th Apr '16 8:01:11 AM Jake
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* ''ComicBook/MillieTheModel'''s pal Toni seemed to think Liverpool was just a short bus ride away from Buckingham Palace, [[http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/2011/03/millie-model-in-london-night-3.html as shown by this panel]].

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* ''ComicBook/MillieTheModel'''s pal Toni seemed to think Liverpool was just a short bus ride away from Buckingham Palace, [[http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/2011/03/millie-model-in-london-night-3.html as shown by this panel]]. Though in her defence she wouldn't be the first tourist to be thrown off by the fact there's a Liverpool Street in London; it was probably once the main coach road towards Liverpool and [[ArtifactTitle the name stuck long after it ceased to be accurate]]. Either way, Liverpool is a good three hours away from London by rail at time of writing -probably closer to four hours in TheSixties- and the better part of a day by coach.
11th Apr '16 7:39:18 AM GreenLady
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* {{Averted}} ''heavily'' in Creator/JohnConnolly and Jennifer Ridyard's ''Chronicles of the Invaders'' YA novel series, in which the invading Illyri aliens make Edinburgh Castle their UK base of operations. There are significant forays into the Scottish highlands and Cornwall (specifically, the Eden Project), and a few key scenes take place in the north of England and the east coast of Ireland, but no major scenes take place in London even off-page.

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* {{Averted}} ''heavily'' in Creator/JohnConnolly and Jennifer Ridyard's ''Chronicles of the Invaders'' YA novel series, in which the invading Illyri aliens make Edinburgh Castle their UK base of operations. There are significant forays into the Scottish highlands and Cornwall (specifically, the Eden Project), and a few key scenes take place in the north of England and the east coast of Ireland, but no major scenes take nothing important takes place in London even off-page.
11th Apr '16 7:38:20 AM GreenLady
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* {{Averted}} ''heavily'' in Creator/JohnConnolly and Jennifer Ridyard's ''Chronicles of the Invaders'' YA novel series, the invading Illyri aliens make Edinburgh Castle their UK base of operations. There are significant forays into the Scottish highlands and Cornwall (specifically, the Eden Project), and a few key scenes take place in the north of England and the east coast of Ireland, but no major scenes take place in London even off-page.

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* {{Averted}} ''heavily'' in Creator/JohnConnolly and Jennifer Ridyard's ''Chronicles of the Invaders'' YA novel series, in which the invading Illyri aliens make Edinburgh Castle their UK base of operations. There are significant forays into the Scottish highlands and Cornwall (specifically, the Eden Project), and a few key scenes take place in the north of England and the east coast of Ireland, but no major scenes take place in London even off-page.
11th Apr '16 7:37:46 AM GreenLady
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* {{Averted}} ''heavily'' in Creator/JohnConnolly and Jennifer Ridyard's ''Chronicles of the Invaders'' YA novel series, the invading Illyri aliens make Edinburgh Castle their UK base of operations. There are significant forays into the Scottish highlands and Cornwall (specifically, the Eden Project), and a few key scenes take place in the north of England and the east coast of Ireland, but no major scenes take place in London even off-page.
** Unusually this isn't a case of AuthorAppeal, since Connolly and Ridyard are, respectively, Irish and English-born South African.
11th Apr '16 7:28:17 AM GreenLady
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4th Mar '16 10:28:09 AM ProfessorDetective
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* In ''Manga/SoulEater'', Maka, Soul, Tsubaki and Black Star fight [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Free]] for the first time on what appears to be Tower Bridge [[note*]] Although it looks nothing like it, so it might be Albert Bridge or another suspension bridge in London. Either way the geography's messed up. [[/note]]

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* In ''Manga/SoulEater'', Maka, Soul, Tsubaki and Black Star fight [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Free]] for the first time on what appears to be Tower Bridge [[note*]] [[note]] Although it looks nothing like it, so it might be Albert Bridge or another suspension bridge in London. Either way the geography's messed up. [[/note]]



* ''Film/AcrossTheUniverse'''s England-based scenes were set in (and for the most part filmed in) Liverpool, but then it ''is'' a movie musical centered around [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] songs, so it isn't a bold choice of setting.

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* ''Film/AcrossTheUniverse'''s England-based scenes were set in (and for the most part filmed in) Liverpool, but then it ''is'' a movie musical centered JukeboxMusical based around [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] songs, the discography of ''[[Music/TheBeatles The Beatles]]'', so it isn't a bold choice of setting.



* ''Literature/{{Trainspotting}}'' Has a montage of 'typical' London featuring pearly kings & queens, red buses, pigeons in Trafalger Square etc used when Renton moves to London. It's so over the top that it's probably a parody of this trope.

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* ''Literature/{{Trainspotting}}'' Has a montage of 'typical' London featuring pearly kings & queens, red buses, pigeons in Trafalger Trafalgar Square etc used when Renton moves to London. It's so over the top that it's probably a parody of this trope.



** And while he might have thought he spoke for "the South of England" as a whole, at best he spoke for the urban South-East. The overwhelmingly rural South-West of England is rather different politically, being split roughly in half between Tory and Lib-Dem supporters where the South-East (the area in which London sits) is overwhelmingly Tory[[note]] Though the area surrounding London is overwhelmingly Tory, it is important to note that London isn't, with London so far having had eight years of lefty mayor Ken Livingstone while only six years of righty Boris Johnson.[[/note]]. Very often the London-based British media will say "the South" when they're angling for "the South-East" and really just thinking about London.

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** And while he might have thought he spoke for "the South of England" as a whole, at best he spoke for the urban South-East. The overwhelmingly rural South-West of England is rather different politically, being split roughly in half between Tory and Lib-Dem supporters where the South-East (the area in which London sits) is overwhelmingly Tory[[note]] Though the area surrounding London is overwhelmingly Tory, it is important to note that London isn't, with London so far having had eight years of lefty mayor Ken Livingstone while only six years of righty Boris Johnson.[[/note]]. Very often the London-based British media will say "the South" when they're angling for "the South-East" Southeast" and really just thinking about London.
4th Mar '16 10:15:19 AM ProfessorDetective
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** The first new series lampshaded this by having a hostile alien become mayor of Cardiff; when asked how she's getting away with it, since she's in many ways ObviouslyEvil, she goes on about how nobody in London would notice if [[UsefulNotes/Wales]] fell into the sea, then catches herself and realizes she's GoingNative. ([[TruthInTelevision She probably has a point.]])

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** The first new series lampshaded this by having a hostile alien become mayor of Cardiff; when asked how she's getting away with it, since she's in many ways ObviouslyEvil, she goes on about how nobody in London would notice if [[UsefulNotes/Wales]] UsefulNotes/{{Wales}} fell into the sea, then catches herself and realizes she's GoingNative. ([[TruthInTelevision She probably has a point.]])
4th Mar '16 10:14:24 AM ProfessorDetective
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This one is fairly understandable when you consider that London has been by far the biggest conurbation of the British Isles in the past millennium[[note]] At present some 12% of the UK's population live in Greater London and this figure increases to 20% if you include the whole of London's metropolitan area. By comparison, less than 7 percent of Americans live in the New York City area [[/note]], and for most of that period it also was by far their most important political, economic and cultural centre. And London's importance extends beyond the British Isles, as for centuries it not only was the capital of England and the UK, but also of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire, and the world over people measure their geographical position and their standard time with reference to the Greenwich Meridian in London. As a European metropolis London for several centuries could only be compared in its aggregate of size, importance and influence to one other city: UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}. From a non-British point of view, London is exciting, overwhelming even, in its labyrinthine sprawl of streets and underground lines, in its mix of various British (London Irish, London Scottish, London Welsh...) and foreign populations. Most foreign travellers find what they want to see in an urban context on a trip to Britain within a 100 km radius of the Houses of Parliament and they might not even be able to name a museum, gallery, theatre or store outside of it. It's not that they don't want to see more of the wider British Isles, but there they are usually interested in individual buildings (Canterbury Cathedral, Edinburgh Castle, the [[Music/TheBeatles Cavern Club]] in Liverpool, ...) and scenic areas in the countryside.

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This one is fairly understandable when you consider that London has been by far the biggest conurbation of the British Isles in the past millennium[[note]] At present some 12% of the UK's population live in Greater London and this figure increases to 20% if you include the whole of London's metropolitan area. By comparison, less than 7 percent of Americans live in the New York City area [[/note]], and for most of that period it also was by far their most important political, economic and cultural centre. And London's importance extends beyond the British Isles, as for centuries it not only was the capital of England and the UK, but also of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire, and the world over people measure their geographical position and their standard time with reference to the Greenwich Meridian in London. As a European metropolis London for several centuries could only be compared in its aggregate of size, importance and influence to one other city: UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}. From a non-British point of view, London is exciting, overwhelming even, in its labyrinthine sprawl of streets and underground lines, in its mix of various British (London Irish, London Scottish, London Welsh...) and foreign populations. Most foreign travellers find what they want to see in an urban context on a trip to Britain within a 100 km 100km radius of the Houses of Parliament and they might not even be able to name a museum, gallery, theatre or store outside of it. It's not that they don't want to see more of the wider British Isles, but there they are usually interested in individual buildings (Canterbury Cathedral, Edinburgh Castle, the [[Music/TheBeatles Cavern Club]] in Liverpool, ...) and scenic areas in the countryside.



** The first new series lampshaded this by having a hostile alien become mayor of Cardiff; when asked how she's getting away with it, since she's in many ways ObviouslyEvil, she goes on about how nobody in London would notice if UsefulNotes/{{Wales}} fell into the sea, then catches herself and realizes she's GoingNative. ([[TruthInTelevision She probably has a point.)]]

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** The first new series lampshaded this by having a hostile alien become mayor of Cardiff; when asked how she's getting away with it, since she's in many ways ObviouslyEvil, she goes on about how nobody in London would notice if UsefulNotes/{{Wales}} [[UsefulNotes/Wales]] fell into the sea, then catches herself and realizes she's GoingNative. ([[TruthInTelevision She probably has a point.)]]]])



** Its third series splits its time between Cardiff and London (this is in part due to Her Majesty's Government's involvement), while its internationally-set fourth series, ''[[Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay Miracle Day]]'', has its British scenes in Swansea, a nearby "overflow camp" in Cowbridge and a house somewhere in rural Wales.

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** Its third series splits its time between Cardiff and London (this is in part due to Her Majesty's Government's involvement), while its internationally-set internationally-set, fourth series, ''[[Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay Miracle Day]]'', has its British scenes in Swansea, a nearby "overflow camp" in Cowbridge and a house somewhere in rural Wales.
16th Feb '16 7:14:31 AM Menshevik
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This one is fairly understandable when you consider that London has been by far the biggest conurbation of the British Isles in the past millennium[[note]] At present some 12% of the UK's population live in Greater London and this figure increases to 20% if you include the whole of London's metropolitan area. By comparison, less than 7 percent of Americans live in the New York City area [[/note]], and for most of that period it also was by far their most important political, economic and cultural centre. And London's importance extends beyond the British Isles, as for centuries it not only was the capital of England and the UK, but also of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire, and the world over people measure their geographical position and their standard time with reference to the Greenwich Meridian in London. As a European metropolis London for several centuries could only be compared in its aggregate of size, importance and influence to one other city: UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}. From a non-British point of view, London is exciting, overwhelming even, in its labyrinthine sprawl of streets and underground lines, in its mix of various British (London Irish, London Scottish, London Welsh...) and foreign populations.

From the point of view of the British Isles outside London it does not help that -- whether they travel by air, ship, car or train -- most foreigners come to the British Isles via London and that the vast majority of UK film and television is made in or around London [[Creator/TheBBC The Beeb]] (and various film councils and what-have-you) are making a serious effort to change this, handing ''Series/DoctorWho'' duties to the capable BBC Wales (although most stories set in the UK in its first three series were London-based) and bringing BBC Scotland's locally-popular sitcom ''Series/StillGame'' to the rest of the country. ITV even got told off by Ofcom for not producing 50% of their shows outside London.

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This one is fairly understandable when you consider that London has been by far the biggest conurbation of the British Isles in the past millennium[[note]] At present some 12% of the UK's population live in Greater London and this figure increases to 20% if you include the whole of London's metropolitan area. By comparison, less than 7 percent of Americans live in the New York City area [[/note]], and for most of that period it also was by far their most important political, economic and cultural centre. And London's importance extends beyond the British Isles, as for centuries it not only was the capital of England and the UK, but also of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire, and the world over people measure their geographical position and their standard time with reference to the Greenwich Meridian in London. As a European metropolis London for several centuries could only be compared in its aggregate of size, importance and influence to one other city: UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}. From a non-British point of view, London is exciting, overwhelming even, in its labyrinthine sprawl of streets and underground lines, in its mix of various British (London Irish, London Scottish, London Welsh...) and foreign populations.

populations. Most foreign travellers find what they want to see in an urban context on a trip to Britain within a 100 km radius of the Houses of Parliament and they might not even be able to name a museum, gallery, theatre or store outside of it. It's not that they don't want to see more of the wider British Isles, but there they are usually interested in individual buildings (Canterbury Cathedral, Edinburgh Castle, the [[Music/TheBeatles Cavern Club]] in Liverpool, ...) and scenic areas in the countryside.

From the point of view of the British Isles people outside London it does not help that -- whether they travel by air, ship, car or train -- most foreigners come to the British Isles via London London, and that the vast majority of UK film and television is made in or around London [[Creator/TheBBC The Beeb]] (and various film councils and what-have-you) are making a serious effort to change this, handing ''Series/DoctorWho'' duties to the capable BBC Wales (although most stories set in the UK in its first three series were London-based) and bringing BBC Scotland's locally-popular sitcom ''Series/StillGame'' to the rest of the country. ITV even got told off by Ofcom for not producing 50% of their shows outside London.
16th Feb '16 6:59:16 AM Menshevik
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This one is fairly understandable when you consider that London has been by far the biggest conurbation of the British Isles in the past millennium[[note]] At present some 12% of the UK's population live in Greater London and this figure increases to 20% if you include the whole of London's metropolitan area. By comparison, less than 7 percent of Americans live in the New York City area [[/note]], and for most of that period it also was by far their most important political, economic and cultural centre. And London's importance extends beyond the British Isles, as for centuries it not only was the capital of England and the UK, but also of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire, and the world over people measure their geographical position and their standard time with reference to the Greenwich Meridian in London. From the point of view of the British Isles outside London it does not help that the vast majority of UK film and television is made in or around London [[Creator/TheBBC The Beeb]] (and various film councils and what-have-you) are making a serious effort to change this, handing ''Series/DoctorWho'' duties to the capable BBC Wales (although most stories set in the UK in its first three series were London-based) and bringing BBC Scotland's locally-popular sitcom ''Series/StillGame'' to the rest of the country. ITV even got told off by Ofcom for not producing 50% of their shows outside London.

America's FlyoverCountry is a similar phenomenon, where all the money, power, movies and things you've heard of are on the coasts (especially [[BigApplesauce New York]], [[UsefulNotes/LosAngeles L.A.]] and UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC.) and rest is the people and space the coast-dwellers skip over by air travel.

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This one is fairly understandable when you consider that London has been by far the biggest conurbation of the British Isles in the past millennium[[note]] At present some 12% of the UK's population live in Greater London and this figure increases to 20% if you include the whole of London's metropolitan area. By comparison, less than 7 percent of Americans live in the New York City area [[/note]], and for most of that period it also was by far their most important political, economic and cultural centre. And London's importance extends beyond the British Isles, as for centuries it not only was the capital of England and the UK, but also of UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire, and the world over people measure their geographical position and their standard time with reference to the Greenwich Meridian in London. As a European metropolis London for several centuries could only be compared in its aggregate of size, importance and influence to one other city: UsefulNotes/{{Paris}}. From a non-British point of view, London is exciting, overwhelming even, in its labyrinthine sprawl of streets and underground lines, in its mix of various British (London Irish, London Scottish, London Welsh...) and foreign populations.

From the point of view of the British Isles outside London it does not help that -- whether they travel by air, ship, car or train -- most foreigners come to the British Isles via London and that the vast majority of UK film and television is made in or around London [[Creator/TheBBC The Beeb]] (and various film councils and what-have-you) are making a serious effort to change this, handing ''Series/DoctorWho'' duties to the capable BBC Wales (although most stories set in the UK in its first three series were London-based) and bringing BBC Scotland's locally-popular sitcom ''Series/StillGame'' to the rest of the country. ITV even got told off by Ofcom for not producing 50% of their shows outside London.

America's FlyoverCountry is a similar phenomenon, where all the money, power, movies and things you've heard of are on the coasts (especially and rest is the people and space the coast-dwellers skip over by air travel. The comparison is especially apt when you reflect that London for the UK combines the functions of [[BigApplesauce New York]], [[UsefulNotes/LosAngeles L.A.]] and UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC.) and rest is UsefulNotes/WashingtonDC within the people and space the coast-dwellers skip over by air travel.
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