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30th Apr '18 1:41:15 PM Krendall
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* Used twice in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when they went to Africa and saw [[WhaleEgg a rhinoceros hatch from an egg]].
--> '''Lisa''': Wait, rhinos aren't born from eggs!
--> '''Homer''': What did you just see, Lisa?
--> '''Lisa''': I know, but--
--> '''Homer''': ''What did you just see?!''

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Used twice in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when they went to Africa and saw [[WhaleEgg a rhinoceros hatch from an egg]].
--> ---> '''Lisa''': Wait, rhinos aren't born from eggs!
--> ---> '''Homer''': What did you just see, Lisa?
--> ---> '''Lisa''': I know, but--
--> ---> '''Homer''': ''What did you just see?!''see?!''
** Homer again after Lisa ([[BeyondTheImpossible somehow]]) makes a perpetual motion machine. The scene ends with Homer calling Lisa to him and angrily shouting, "In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
15th Feb '18 1:46:06 AM Mortvana
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* This is actually a plot point quite often on ''{{Series/Fringe}}''. In a season 3 episode, Walter was confused and upset when the heaviest element was used by another scientist (who stumbled upon it and has no idea why it's doing this either) to make people float in the sky. Yes, it makes no sense. As it turns out, this lapse in the laws of physics is a sign that our universe is about to collide with another one and destroy them both.

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* This is actually a plot point quite often on ''{{Series/Fringe}}''. In a season 3 episode, Walter was confused and upset when the heaviest densest element (Osmium) was used by another scientist (who stumbled upon it and has no idea why it's doing this either) to make people float in the sky. Yes, it makes no sense. As it turns out, this lapse in the laws of physics is a sign that our universe is about to collide with another one and destroy them both.
23rd Jan '18 12:17:47 PM Medinoc
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* On This Very Wiki, the ArtisticLicensePaleontology page used to be called Somewhere A Paleontologist Is Crying.
2nd Jan '18 11:54:49 AM Eschar
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* In ''Literature/TheThreeBodyProblem'', several scientists commit suicide when the data collected by particle accelerators appear to be completely inconsistent, due to Trisolaris' [[spoiler:sophons.]]
26th Dec '17 12:16:41 PM JoeMerl
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* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry took the revelation of the existence of magic in stride, because once he realised that [[MagicAIsMagicA magic follows certain rules]] he realised he could [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic apply the scientific method to reconcile it with the known laws of physics.]] But when he sees Professor [=McGonagall=] turn into a housecat, which starts by breaking the Law of Conservation of Mass and just goes on from there, he tends to struggle a bit. (Presumably he's never read the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series, which did eventually get around to addressing the issue.)

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* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry took the revelation of the existence of magic in stride, because once he realised that [[MagicAIsMagicA magic follows certain rules]] he realised he could [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic apply the scientific method to reconcile it with the known laws of physics.]] But physics]]. Nevertheless, he has a mild freak-out when he sees contemplating the ShapeshifterBaggage of Professor [=McGonagall=] turn turning into a housecat, which starts by breaking the Law of cat.
-->"You turned into a cat! A ''SMALL'' cat! You violated
Conservation of Mass and Energy! That's not just goes on from there, he tends to struggle a bit. (Presumably he's never read an arbitrary rule, it's implied by the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series, which did eventually form of the quantum Hamiltonian! Rejecting it destroys unitarity and then you get around to addressing the issue.)FTL signaling!"
26th Dec '17 12:11:10 PM JoeMerl
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* Used twice in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when she discovered that apparently, rhinos are born from eggs when she sees it happen in Africa.

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* Used twice in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when she discovered that apparently, rhinos are born they went to Africa and saw [[WhaleEgg a rhinoceros hatch from eggs when she sees it happen in Africa.an egg]].



--> '''Lisa''': I know, but-

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--> '''Lisa''': I know, but-but--
2nd Sep '17 7:14:38 PM AdamC
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* Ellie and Alan's miniature freakout the first time they see a dinosaur in ''Film/JurassicPark''.

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* A benign version would be Ellie and Alan's miniature freakout the first time they see a dinosaur in ''Film/JurassicPark''.''Film/JurassicPark''. They're more broken by the sense of awe than anything else, and a few minutes later Alan is observing the movement patterns to confirm one of his theories.
-->''They'' DO ''move in herds.''
27th Apr '17 11:10:37 PM AthenaBlue
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* In ''Fanfic/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriendsTheEnd'', ComicBook/LexLuthor repeatedly underestimates [[EldritchAbomination The Benefactor's]] claims of ruling an entire universe, reasoning that the distances would be just too great. Apparently such claims are true.
* In the final chapter of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6575772/1/Yabba_Dabba_Joes Yabba Dabba Joes]], a paleontologist working on Sue the T-Rex's skull before she goes on display goes into a temporary brain shutdown when he pulls a nine millimeter bullet out of a pockmark on Sue's jaw.
* Ritsuko in ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' suffers a serious blow to her sanity after repeatedly witnessing Shinji playing RealityWarper with his AT-field wizardry and psyker abilities without finding ANY scientific explanation for it. She learned to cope via ranting and publishing scientific papers on the latest proof-by-Evangelion that physics don't work; the hate-mail keeps her going.
** In the [=Anime/Addventure=] thread "Switching Places/Eva", she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."
* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry took the revelation of the existence of magic in stride, because once he realised that [[MagicAIsMagicA magic follows certain rules]] he realised he could [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic apply the scientific method to reconcile it with the known laws of physics.]] But when he sees Professor [=McGonagall=] turn into a housecat, which starts by breaking the Law of Conservation of Mass and just goes on from there, he tends to struggle a bit. (Presumably he's never read the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series, which did eventually get around to addressing the issue.)
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* In ''Fanfic/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriendsTheEnd'', ComicBook/LexLuthor repeatedly underestimates [[EldritchAbomination The Benefactor's]] claims of ruling an entire universe, reasoning that the distances would be just too great. Apparently such claims are true.
* In the final chapter of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6575772/1/Yabba_Dabba_Joes Yabba Dabba Joes]], a paleontologist working on Sue the T-Rex's skull before she goes on display goes into a temporary brain shutdown when he pulls a nine millimeter bullet out of a pockmark on Sue's jaw.
* Ritsuko in ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' suffers a serious blow to her sanity after repeatedly witnessing Shinji playing RealityWarper with his AT-field wizardry and psyker abilities without finding ANY scientific explanation for it. She learned to cope via ranting and publishing scientific papers on the latest proof-by-Evangelion that physics don't work; the hate-mail keeps her going.
** In the [=Anime/Addventure=] thread "Switching Places/Eva", she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."
* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry took the revelation of the existence of magic in stride, because once he realised that [[MagicAIsMagicA magic follows certain rules]] he realised he could [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic apply the scientific method to reconcile it with the known laws of physics.]] But when he sees Professor [=McGonagall=] turn into a housecat, which starts by breaking the Law of Conservation of Mass and just goes on from there, he tends to struggle a bit. (Presumably he's never read the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series, which did eventually get around to addressing the issue.)

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* One of the planet travel guides in ''VideoGame/{{Tyrian}}'' reads "Many a scientist comes here after retirement to watch all their fundamental mathematical theorems fall apart as they watch the landmasses floating in apparent defiance to their life's work."
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* Used twice in the Simpsons, once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when she discovered that apparently, rhinos are born from eggs when she sees it happen in Africa.

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* Used twice in the Simpsons, ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when she discovered that apparently, rhinos are born from eggs when she sees it happen in Africa.






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* One of the planet travel guides in ''VideoGame/{{Tyrian}}'' reads "Many a scientist comes here after retirement to watch all their fundamental mathematical theorems fall apart as they watch the landmasses floating in apparent defiance to their life's work."

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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One of notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the planet travel guides Big Bang theory. After it was proven, Fred Hoyle still wasn't in ''VideoGame/{{Tyrian}}'' reads "Many favor of it because he saw a scientist comes here after retirement universe with a finite beginning as bad due to watch all their fundamental mathematical theorems fall apart as they watch the landmasses floating in apparent defiance fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to their life's work."
something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)



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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. After it was proven, Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
18th Apr '17 11:27:42 AM Malady
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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. However in this case an element of the steady state theory is largely correct, that stellar fusion does in fact create the heavier elements. After it was proven Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
* In general the problem with this concept is that in reality a theory can still be partially accurate even is elements of it are shown incorrect. The reason for this is the way in which scientific theories are developed. A scientific theory cannot be proven, it is merely accepted once it is failed to be disproved. What this means is that a well accepted former theory is never completely discredited as we see with Newtonian physics versus relativistic physics. While Newtonian physics are inaccurate at relativistic speeds (those approaching the speed of light), it is still accurate enough within normal speeds and masses that make up most interactions on Earth and is still used in most engineering on Earth.
** The best analogy for this relationship is that of a mathematical curve fit. If some element of a fit is shown to be wrong, even if it is drastically wrong in areas, some part of it must be accurate otherwise it would never have been accepted in the first place.
** Creator/IsaacAsimov wrote an essay on this issue once titled "The Relativity of Wrong", using the analogy of a flat earth vs a perfectly spherical earth vs an oblate spheroid which is that due to its spin the Earth is actually slightly thicker at the equator. While the earth is neither flat nor perfectly spherical, being spherical is closer than being flat.
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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. However in this case an element of the steady state theory is largely correct, that stellar fusion does in fact create the heavier elements. After it was proven proven, Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
* In general the problem with this concept is that in reality a theory can still be partially accurate even is elements of it are shown incorrect. The reason for this is the way in which scientific theories are developed. A scientific theory cannot be proven, it is merely accepted once it is failed to be disproved. What this means is that a well accepted former theory is never completely discredited as we see with Newtonian physics versus relativistic physics. While Newtonian physics are inaccurate at relativistic speeds (those approaching the speed of light), it is still accurate enough within normal speeds and masses that make up most interactions on Earth and is still used in most engineering on Earth.
** The best analogy for this relationship is that of a mathematical curve fit. If some element of a fit is shown to be wrong, even if it is drastically wrong in areas, some part of it must be accurate otherwise it would never have been accepted in the first place.
** Creator/IsaacAsimov wrote an essay on this issue once titled "The Relativity of Wrong", using the analogy of a flat earth vs a perfectly spherical earth vs an oblate spheroid which is that due to its spin the Earth is actually slightly thicker at the equator. While the earth is neither flat nor perfectly spherical, being spherical is closer than being flat.
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21st Jan '17 1:19:49 PM Piromano80
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** In the AnimeAddventure thread "Switching Places/Eva'', she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."

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** In the AnimeAddventure [=Anime/Addventure=] thread "Switching Places/Eva'', Places/Eva", she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."
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