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27th Apr '17 11:10:37 PM AthenaBlue
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* In ''Fanfic/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriendsTheEnd'', ComicBook/LexLuthor repeatedly underestimates [[EldritchAbomination The Benefactor's]] claims of ruling an entire universe, reasoning that the distances would be just too great. Apparently such claims are true.
* In the final chapter of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6575772/1/Yabba_Dabba_Joes Yabba Dabba Joes]], a paleontologist working on Sue the T-Rex's skull before she goes on display goes into a temporary brain shutdown when he pulls a nine millimeter bullet out of a pockmark on Sue's jaw.
* Ritsuko in ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' suffers a serious blow to her sanity after repeatedly witnessing Shinji playing RealityWarper with his AT-field wizardry and psyker abilities without finding ANY scientific explanation for it. She learned to cope via ranting and publishing scientific papers on the latest proof-by-Evangelion that physics don't work; the hate-mail keeps her going.
** In the [=Anime/Addventure=] thread "Switching Places/Eva", she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."
* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry took the revelation of the existence of magic in stride, because once he realised that [[MagicAIsMagicA magic follows certain rules]] he realised he could [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic apply the scientific method to reconcile it with the known laws of physics.]] But when he sees Professor [=McGonagall=] turn into a housecat, which starts by breaking the Law of Conservation of Mass and just goes on from there, he tends to struggle a bit. (Presumably he's never read the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series, which did eventually get around to addressing the issue.)
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* In ''Fanfic/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriendsTheEnd'', ComicBook/LexLuthor repeatedly underestimates [[EldritchAbomination The Benefactor's]] claims of ruling an entire universe, reasoning that the distances would be just too great. Apparently such claims are true.
* In the final chapter of [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6575772/1/Yabba_Dabba_Joes Yabba Dabba Joes]], a paleontologist working on Sue the T-Rex's skull before she goes on display goes into a temporary brain shutdown when he pulls a nine millimeter bullet out of a pockmark on Sue's jaw.
* Ritsuko in ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' suffers a serious blow to her sanity after repeatedly witnessing Shinji playing RealityWarper with his AT-field wizardry and psyker abilities without finding ANY scientific explanation for it. She learned to cope via ranting and publishing scientific papers on the latest proof-by-Evangelion that physics don't work; the hate-mail keeps her going.
** In the [=Anime/Addventure=] thread "Switching Places/Eva", she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."
* In ''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'', Harry took the revelation of the existence of magic in stride, because once he realised that [[MagicAIsMagicA magic follows certain rules]] he realised he could [[SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic apply the scientific method to reconcile it with the known laws of physics.]] But when he sees Professor [=McGonagall=] turn into a housecat, which starts by breaking the Law of Conservation of Mass and just goes on from there, he tends to struggle a bit. (Presumably he's never read the ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' series, which did eventually get around to addressing the issue.)

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* One of the planet travel guides in ''VideoGame/{{Tyrian}}'' reads "Many a scientist comes here after retirement to watch all their fundamental mathematical theorems fall apart as they watch the landmasses floating in apparent defiance to their life's work."
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* Used twice in the Simpsons, once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when she discovered that apparently, rhinos are born from eggs when she sees it happen in Africa.

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* Used twice in the Simpsons, ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', once seriously with the curator for the Jebediah Springfield museum, was so dismayed upon finding evidence that Jebediah was actually a vicious pirate that he stole and hid the evidence to stop others from knowing the truth, and once more amusingly with science-minded Lisa Simpson when she discovered that apparently, rhinos are born from eggs when she sees it happen in Africa.






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* One of the planet travel guides in ''VideoGame/{{Tyrian}}'' reads "Many a scientist comes here after retirement to watch all their fundamental mathematical theorems fall apart as they watch the landmasses floating in apparent defiance to their life's work."

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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One of notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the planet travel guides Big Bang theory. After it was proven, Fred Hoyle still wasn't in ''VideoGame/{{Tyrian}}'' reads "Many favor of it because he saw a scientist comes here after retirement universe with a finite beginning as bad due to watch all their fundamental mathematical theorems fall apart as they watch the landmasses floating in apparent defiance fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to their life's work."
something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)



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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. After it was proven, Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
18th Apr '17 11:27:42 AM Malady
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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. However in this case an element of the steady state theory is largely correct, that stellar fusion does in fact create the heavier elements. After it was proven Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
* In general the problem with this concept is that in reality a theory can still be partially accurate even is elements of it are shown incorrect. The reason for this is the way in which scientific theories are developed. A scientific theory cannot be proven, it is merely accepted once it is failed to be disproved. What this means is that a well accepted former theory is never completely discredited as we see with Newtonian physics versus relativistic physics. While Newtonian physics are inaccurate at relativistic speeds (those approaching the speed of light), it is still accurate enough within normal speeds and masses that make up most interactions on Earth and is still used in most engineering on Earth.
** The best analogy for this relationship is that of a mathematical curve fit. If some element of a fit is shown to be wrong, even if it is drastically wrong in areas, some part of it must be accurate otherwise it would never have been accepted in the first place.
** Creator/IsaacAsimov wrote an essay on this issue once titled "The Relativity of Wrong", using the analogy of a flat earth vs a perfectly spherical earth vs an oblate spheroid which is that due to its spin the Earth is actually slightly thicker at the equator. While the earth is neither flat nor perfectly spherical, being spherical is closer than being flat.
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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. However in this case an element of the steady state theory is largely correct, that stellar fusion does in fact create the heavier elements. After it was proven proven, Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
* In general the problem with this concept is that in reality a theory can still be partially accurate even is elements of it are shown incorrect. The reason for this is the way in which scientific theories are developed. A scientific theory cannot be proven, it is merely accepted once it is failed to be disproved. What this means is that a well accepted former theory is never completely discredited as we see with Newtonian physics versus relativistic physics. While Newtonian physics are inaccurate at relativistic speeds (those approaching the speed of light), it is still accurate enough within normal speeds and masses that make up most interactions on Earth and is still used in most engineering on Earth.
** The best analogy for this relationship is that of a mathematical curve fit. If some element of a fit is shown to be wrong, even if it is drastically wrong in areas, some part of it must be accurate otherwise it would never have been accepted in the first place.
** Creator/IsaacAsimov wrote an essay on this issue once titled "The Relativity of Wrong", using the analogy of a flat earth vs a perfectly spherical earth vs an oblate spheroid which is that due to its spin the Earth is actually slightly thicker at the equator. While the earth is neither flat nor perfectly spherical, being spherical is closer than being flat.
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21st Jan '17 1:19:49 PM Piromano80
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** In the AnimeAddventure thread "Switching Places/Eva'', she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."

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** In the AnimeAddventure [=Anime/Addventure=] thread "Switching Places/Eva'', Places/Eva", she has a similar reaction to Ranma. And to his habit (which most of the rest of the cast has picked up) of calling the Angels "kaiju."
21st Jan '17 12:37:47 PM Piromano80
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* In ''Discworld/TheLastContinent'', Ponder Stibbons has some difficulty adjusting to the idea that the deserted island he and the rest of Unseen University's senior faculty are trapped on is actively supplying them with the means to live. Further, he's pretty disillusioned to learn that evolution not a wonderfully elegant self-driving force, but is driven by an inept god like everything else on the Disc.

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* In ''Discworld/TheLastContinent'', Ponder Stibbons has some difficulty adjusting to the idea that the deserted island he and the rest of Unseen University's senior faculty are trapped on is actively supplying them with the means to live. Further, he's pretty disillusioned to learn that evolution not isn't a wonderfully elegant self-driving force, but is driven by an inept god like everything else on the Disc.



* During an episode of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', Creator/StephenHawking pointed out a mistake that Sheldon had overlooked. Upon noticing it, Cooper passes out.
-->'''Hawking''': [[SarcasmMode Oh great]]. Another fainter.

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* During an episode of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', Creator/StephenHawking pointed out a mistake that Sheldon had overlooked. Upon noticing it, Cooper passes out.
-->'''Hawking''': [[SarcasmMode Oh great]]. Another fainter.
5th Nov '16 8:31:58 PM Luc
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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. However in this case an element of the steady state theory is largely correct, that stellar fusion does in fact create the heavier elements. After it was proven Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending.

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* This actually has happened to a lesser extent with rival theories. One notable example was Fred Hoyle whose steady state theory was discredited once sufficient evidence was more accurately explained by the Big Bang theory. However in this case an element of the steady state theory is largely correct, that stellar fusion does in fact create the heavier elements. After it was proven Fred Hoyle still wasn't in favor of it because he saw a universe with a finite beginning as bad due to the fact that it meant that the universe would also have a finite ending. (Admittedly, cosmologists have [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_inflation come to something resembling Hoyle's Steady State]] [[RightForTheWrongReasons for other reasons]].)
15th May '16 10:02:31 PM TSBasilisk
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* Ritsuko in ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' suffers a serious blow to her sanity after repeatedly witnessing Shinji playing RealityWarper with his AT-field wizardry and psyker abilities without finding ANY scientific explanation for it.

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* Ritsuko in ''Fanfic/ShinjiAndWarhammer40K'' suffers a serious blow to her sanity after repeatedly witnessing Shinji playing RealityWarper with his AT-field wizardry and psyker abilities without finding ANY scientific explanation for it. She learned to cope via ranting and publishing scientific papers on the latest proof-by-Evangelion that physics don't work; the hate-mail keeps her going.
16th Jan '16 10:35:40 PM nombretomado
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So, we all know that [[TheFarSide every time you show dinosaurs and cave-people together]] in the same era [[ArtisticLicensePaleontology a palaeontologist cries]]. Probably not literally, of course. You'd have to be fairly unstable to be brought to tears just because some TV show took some artistic liberties. After all, [[MST3KMantra it's just a show]]...

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So, we all know that [[TheFarSide [[ComicStrip/TheFarSide every time you show dinosaurs and cave-people together]] in the same era [[ArtisticLicensePaleontology a palaeontologist cries]]. Probably not literally, of course. You'd have to be fairly unstable to be brought to tears just because some TV show took some artistic liberties. After all, [[MST3KMantra it's just a show]]...
30th Dec '15 2:45:47 PM Anddrix
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* In ''Fanfic/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriendsTheEnd'', SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor repeatedly underestimates [[EldritchAbomination The Benefactor's]] claims of ruling an entire universe, reasoning that the distances would be just too great. Apparently such claims are true.

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* In ''Fanfic/ChallengeOfTheSuperFriendsTheEnd'', SelfDemonstrating/LexLuthor ComicBook/LexLuthor repeatedly underestimates [[EldritchAbomination The Benefactor's]] claims of ruling an entire universe, reasoning that the distances would be just too great. Apparently such claims are true.
11th Nov '15 5:15:29 AM unokkun
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* ''{{Webcomic/xkcd}}'' [[https://xkcd.com/298/ 298]] shows a scientist understandably shocked when Black Hat shoots lightning from his hands and hovers in the air, all while explaining that science doesn't actually work.
-->'''AltText:''' For scientists, [[AllJustADream this can be the hardest thing about dreams.]]
13th Sep '15 1:58:10 PM eroock
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--->'''Hawking''': [[SarcasmMode Oh great]]. Another fainter.

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--->'''Hawking''': -->'''Hawking''': [[SarcasmMode Oh great]]. Another fainter.
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