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23rd May '16 8:42:31 PM Anddrix
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* In ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'', the alternate universe KnightTemplar Justice League, the Justice Lords, brainwashed dangerous villains like SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker. Or rather, Superman ''[[FateWorseThanDeath lobotomized]]'' them with his heat vision. (When Doomsday - freaking ''Doomsday'' shows up, this makes for a CurbStompBattle with the Justice Lord Superman. Instead of [[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman fistfighting to their mutual destruction]], brain-fry ensues and it's a done deal. Of course, [[spoiler: He got better a couple seasons later, and when the prime Superman is desperate enough to use his darker version's tactic, Doomsday, via his AdaptiveAbility, is now immune]].)

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* In ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'', the alternate universe KnightTemplar Justice League, the Justice Lords, brainwashed dangerous villains like SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.ComicBook/TheJoker. Or rather, Superman ''[[FateWorseThanDeath lobotomized]]'' them with his heat vision. (When Doomsday - freaking ''Doomsday'' shows up, this makes for a CurbStompBattle with the Justice Lord Superman. Instead of [[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman fistfighting to their mutual destruction]], brain-fry ensues and it's a done deal. Of course, [[spoiler: He got better a couple seasons later, and when the prime Superman is desperate enough to use his darker version's tactic, Doomsday, via his AdaptiveAbility, is now immune]].)
7th May '16 4:08:25 PM nombretomado
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* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8374923/1/Confession-is-Good-for-the-Soul This]] ''GoodOmens'' hurt/comfort fic is a quick deconstruction of this

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* [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8374923/1/Confession-is-Good-for-the-Soul This]] ''GoodOmens'' ''Literature/GoodOmens'' hurt/comfort fic is a quick deconstruction of this
28th Apr '16 10:32:19 AM Angelus25
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* In ''Series/{{Angel}}'', Angel becomes the CEO of evil law firm Wolfram & Hart's L.A. branch in exchange for them altering reality to give his son Connor a well-adjusted past with a normal family, and wipe everyone else's memories. Eventually Connor gets his old memories restored...but from his perspective the implanted memories remain and they're the ones that feel "real" to him. The real memories are more like a strange dream from Connor's perspective. The rest of Angel's team get their memories back at the same time IIRC, leading Wesley to suddenly remember the role he played in Connor's abduction as an infant and the subsequent fallout.

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* In ''Series/{{Angel}}'', Angel becomes the CEO of evil law firm Wolfram & Hart's L.A. branch in exchange for them altering reality to give his son Connor a well-adjusted past with a normal family, and wipe everyone else's memories. Eventually Connor gets his old memories restored...but from his perspective the implanted memories remain and they're the ones that feel "real" to him. The real memories are more like a strange dream from Connor's perspective. The rest of Angel's team get their Wesley also gets his memories back at the same time IIRC, leading Wesley to restored and suddenly remember the role he played in Connor's abduction as an infant and the subsequent fallout.
8th Apr '16 10:05:04 PM NOYB
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* Averted in {{The Wheel of Time}}. [[spoiler: Rand, in his confrontation with the Dark One, projects a future without a Dark One. Without his influence, though, everyone in the world was effectively Brainwashed For The Greater Good. The idea sickened Rand so much that he abandoned his plan to kill the Dark One, opting instead to reseal the prison.]]

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* Averted in {{The ''{{The Wheel of Time}}.Time}}''. [[spoiler: Rand, in his confrontation with the Dark One, projects a future without a Dark One. Without his influence, though, everyone in the world was effectively Brainwashed For The Greater Good. The idea sickened Rand so much that he abandoned his plan to kill the Dark One, opting instead to reseal the prison.]]
31st Mar '16 11:43:30 AM thatmadork
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', it's stated that this is how the Railroad rehabilitate escaped synths. A doctor they sponsor gives them new memories to help them acclimate to the Wasteland and live normal lives as humans. Though the process is entirely voluntary, it can occasionally backfire spectacularly as the converted synth has no idea of their past lives and why they should care about synth rights. [[spoiler:Isn't that right, Paladin Danse?]]
21st Mar '16 8:20:21 PM starsky120
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* The second work in the {{Fanfic/Ouroboros}} series, ''Queen's Gambit'', this is proposed by [[spoiler: the Gambit Jedi to use on Gambit Obi-Wan Kenobi. This causes major controversy.]]

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* The In the second work in of the {{Fanfic/Ouroboros}} series, ''Queen's Gambit'', this is proposed by [[spoiler: the Gambit Jedi Gambit!Jedi to use on Gambit Obi-Wan Kenobi. Gambit!Obi-Wan Kenobi, even after he proved that he wasn't a Dark Jedi. This causes major controversy.controversy, and several Jedi -- including Quinlan Vos and Ahsoka Tano -- end up leaving the Order due to it, after breaking Obi-Wan out of prison.]]
22nd Feb '16 8:16:26 PM KillerClowns
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* In ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'', this is a central theme in [[NoNameGiven Grieving Mother]]'s past and arc. She's a midwife and powerful [[PsychicPowers cipher]] who used her powers in various ways to protect and aid the children she helped bring into the world. She accepts it as DirtyBusiness and can be convinced it should never be done, but argues it well and with full acceptance of the darker aspects, making it a case of GrayAndGreyMorality.

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* In ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity'', this is a central theme in [[NoNameGiven Grieving Mother]]'s past and arc. She's a midwife and powerful [[PsychicPowers cipher]] who used her powers in various ways to protect and aid the children she helped bring into the world. She accepts it as DirtyBusiness and can be convinced it should never be done, but argues it well and with full acceptance of the darker aspects, making it a case of GrayAndGreyMorality. [[spoiler:She even asks [[PlayerCharacter the Watcher]] to do it ''to her'' -- removing certain extremely traumatic memories from her mind so she can have peace. The Watcher can accept or refuse.]]
24th Jan '16 3:32:42 AM Omeganian
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** One episode of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' has Picard boasting that the Federation "[[UnfortunateImplications learned how to detect the seeds of criminal behavior]]". The effectiveness is... debatable.
20th Jan '16 12:48:36 AM Yozzy
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** The brainwashing of Space Marine recruits is rather necessary, since most recruits are chosen ''because'' they have psychotic killing instincts. Many Space Marines used to be the worst criminal scum from [[WretchedHive Hive Worlds]]. Their predecessors the Thunder Warriors were ''not'' brainwashed, and proved to be so physically and mentally unstable that The Emperor had them purged once the conquest of Terra was complete.

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** The brainwashing of Space Marine recruits is rather necessary, to allow both subliminal training and to indoctrinate the recruits into loyally serving the chapter and [[TheEmpire the Imperium]]. This is as much as to make them loyal servants as well as to behave; while recruiting from [[{{Arcology}} a Hive]], they prefer "recruiting" gangs members since most recruits are chosen ''because'' they have psychotic killing instincts. Many Space instincts and experience with weapons. If Marines used decide they would rather strike out on their own, they would either [[DangerousDeserter go renegade]], or, much worse and ''more common'', [[TheCorruption fell to be the worst criminal scum from [[WretchedHive Hive Worlds]]. Their predecessors temptation]] and became terrifying [[EvilCounterpart Chaos Space Marines]]. Space Marines' predecessors, the Thunder Warriors Warriors, were ''not'' brainwashed, and proved to be so physically and mentally unstable that The Emperor had them purged once the conquest of Terra was complete.
15th Jan '16 7:42:12 PM nombretomado
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* ''TheStainlessSteelRat''.
** It works, though. Angelina turned from a murderous psychopath into a loving wife and mother... with occasional psychopathic tendencies, especially if you so much as [[MamaBear look at her twins wrong]].

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* ''TheStainlessSteelRat''.
** It works, though.
''Literature/TheStainlessSteelRat'' - and it ''works'', largely successfully. Angelina turned from a murderous psychopath into a loving wife and mother... with occasional psychopathic tendencies, especially if you so much as [[MamaBear look at her twins wrong]].
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