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13th Feb '18 10:09:48 AM Waternebula
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* Would a human program be able to perceive anything outside of their device? Or even just 3d objects at all?
23rd Jan '18 4:20:16 PM FGHIK
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** Assuming the existence of the soul (or even just assuming the original believes he has one), how does he feel about the prospect that he may ''not'' be simply destroyed, but go on to an afterlife (pleasant or unpleasant) while a newly created double takes his place? After all, "he" stands a 50/50 chance of winding up as the original or the copy. For that matter, is the newborn copy innocent of sin despite his memories of committing them?
* Even theorists who don't believe in the soul, ''per se,'' often believe in consciousness as a real phenomenon. Would a simulation of a brain experience consciousness any more than a simulation of lungs can be said to actually respirate oxygen? How could an outside observer tell? [[note]]Granted that you can't really be sure even that the people around you are conscious like you are; but the fact that they're made of the same stuff as you and function the same way you do provides a pretty strong hint that they are.[[/note]] The fact that the observer probably ''can't'' tell arguably makes this consideration ''more'' important, not less--since uploadees would be gambling their very selves on the trustworthiness of this tech.

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** Assuming the existence of the soul (or even just assuming the original believes he has one), how does he feel about the prospect that he may ''not'' be simply destroyed, but go on to an afterlife (pleasant or unpleasant) while a newly created double takes his place? After all, "he" either stands a 50/50 chance of winding up as the original or the copy.copy, or is ''always'' going to be the original. For that matter, is the newborn copy innocent of sin despite his memories of committing them?
* Even theorists who don't believe in the soul, ''per se,'' often believe in consciousness as a real phenomenon. Would a simulation of a brain experience consciousness any more than a simulation of lungs can be said to actually respirate oxygen? How could an outside observer tell? [[note]]Granted that you can't really be sure even that the people around you are conscious like you are; but the fact that they're made of the same stuff as you and function the same way you do provides a pretty strong hint that they are.[[/note]] The fact that the observer probably ''can't'' tell arguably makes this consideration ''more'' important, not less--since uploadees would be gambling their very selves on the trustworthiness of this tech.tech (and even if it can simulate their consciousness, that [[TwinMaker doesn't mean it's the same, continued consciousness]].
19th Jan '18 4:25:20 PM caivu
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* In the future society of ''ComicBook/Spiritus'', convicted criminals have their consciousness uploaded to android bodies programmed to perform manual labor.

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* In the future society of ''ComicBook/Spiritus'', ''ComicBook/{{Spiritus}}'', convicted criminals have their consciousness uploaded to android bodies programmed to perform manual labor.
19th Jan '18 4:24:25 PM caivu
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* In the future society of ''ComicBook/Spiritus'', convicted criminals have their consciousness uploaded to android bodies programmed to perform manual labor.
15th Jan '18 5:20:54 PM eroock
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Widespread BrainUploading tends to lead to TheSingularity or something very much like it. Or it may be a ''result'' of said Singularity.

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Widespread BrainUploading Brain Uploading tends to lead to TheSingularity or something very much like it. Or it may be a ''result'' of said Singularity.
10th Jan '18 7:41:46 AM SebastianGray
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* In the backstory for the ''TabletopGame/WarhammerAgeOfSigmar'' GaidenGame ''Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire'', [[TheMagocracy the Katophrane]] rulers of the city discovered that the mysterious substance known as shadeglass could be used to capture the souls of the dead. Seeing the potential in this phenomenon, the Katophrane constructed a network of shadeglass mirrors throughout the city to store their living essences so that they could continue to guide their city eternally rather than pass on to the afterlife. It was for this denial of his due that [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Nagash]], the God of the Dead, cursed the city, turning it into the nightmarish realm of madness and illusion that it is today.
3rd Jan '18 3:27:18 PM TheWanderer
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Compare with the VirtualGhost, where the uploaded brain can control a projection of themselves to interact with the real world. Contrast NeuralImplanting, where computer files are uploaded to the brain instead of the other way around, though both tropes are occasionally used together. See also HeartDrive, TransferableMemory, and BodyBackupDrive. Compare LivingMemory, SaveScumming, and DigitizedHacker.

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Compare with the VirtualGhost, where the uploaded brain can control a projection of themselves to interact with the real world. Contrast NeuralImplanting, where computer files are uploaded to the brain instead of the other way around, though both tropes are occasionally used together. See also HeartDrive, TransferableMemory, and BodyBackupDrive. Compare LivingMemory, SaveScumming, and DigitizedHacker.
DigitizedHacker. Many cases of an ArtificialAfterlife feature use of this trope.
18th Dec '17 10:32:35 PM thatmadork
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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1917292/scp-2669 SCP-2669]] is a Foundation space probe that contains the consciousness of an exobiologist named Dr. Asma Tareen. Through a combination of sheer isolation and the soul-crushing realisation that there is no other life in the galaxy, she has gone completely insane and [[EarthShatteringKaboom is returning to Earth at 5 times lightspeed]]. [[spoiler:To try and stop her, the Foundation tried to upload the mind of a physicist, only for her to subsume his consciousness. Then they sent a psychologist to try and talk her down. Then they sent a computer expert to hack her systems. Both of these failed. Now they're sending the consciousnesses of coma patients and babies in a desperate attempt to confuse her to try and keep her away.]]

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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1917292/scp-2669 SCP-2669]] net/scp-2669 SCP-2669 ("Khevtuul 1")]] is a Foundation space probe that contains the consciousness of an exobiologist named Dr. Asma Tareen. Through a combination of sheer isolation and the soul-crushing realisation that there is no other life in the galaxy, she has gone completely insane and [[EarthShatteringKaboom is returning to Earth at 5 times lightspeed]]. [[spoiler:To try and stop her, the Foundation tried to upload the mind of a physicist, only for her to subsume his consciousness. Then they sent a psychologist to try and talk her down. Then they sent a computer expert to hack her systems. Both of these failed. Now they're sending the consciousnesses of coma patients and babies in a desperate attempt to confuse her to try and keep her away.]]
18th Dec '17 10:27:17 PM thatmadork
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** [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-1917292/scp-2669 SCP-2669]] is a Foundation space probe that contains the consciousness of an exobiologist named Dr. Asma Tareen. Through a combination of sheer isolation and the soul-crushing realisation that there is no other life in the galaxy, she has gone completely insane and [[EarthShatteringKaboom is returning to Earth at 5 times lightspeed]]. [[spoiler:To try and stop her, the Foundation tried to upload the mind of a physicist, only for her to subsume his consciousness. Then they sent a psychologist to try and talk her down. Then they sent a computer expert to hack her systems. Both of these failed. Now they're sending the consciousnesses of coma patients and babies in a desperate attempt to confuse her to try and keep her away.]]
13th Dec '17 2:10:57 PM TheGreatConversation
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* In ''Podcast/{{SAYER}}'', the deep space exploration vehicle Vidarr-1 is traversing the galaxy with the mission of finding habitable Earth-like planets--and the concern is that if the planets are inhabitable, they may already be inhabited. With that in mind, the probes have been designed to resemble diminutive humans and uploaded with recycled human consciousnesses [[spoiler:from the travelers killed on launch]]. This causes problems when the probes retain basic memories and hold on to the launch tubes to prevent being catapulted into space.
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