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22nd Aug '16 3:58:00 PM nombretomado
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* Downplayed in TheElderScrollsVSkyrim with Dwarven technology, which is almost always a BlackBox of some kind whenever anyone in the game has to use it to accomplish a task. The most common example is "Dwarven metal" which is an unique alloy that resembles bronze but never dulls or corrodes. Nobody by the time the game takes place knows how to create it since the Dwemer have vanished, so smelting it essentially involves recycling pieces of their scrap metal.

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* Downplayed in TheElderScrollsVSkyrim ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' with Dwarven technology, which is almost always a BlackBox of some kind whenever anyone in the game has to use it to accomplish a task. The most common example is "Dwarven metal" which is an unique alloy that resembles bronze but never dulls or corrodes. Nobody by the time the game takes place knows how to create it since the Dwemer have vanished, so smelting it essentially involves recycling pieces of their scrap metal.
20th Aug '16 7:37:43 AM roboe
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** When it is activated [[spoiler: the chair for the occupant drops straight through in a matter of seconds, while 18 hours passes for the occupant, causing onlookers to think that it didn't work.]]

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** When it is activated [[spoiler: the chair for the occupant drops straight through in a matter of seconds, while 18 hours passes for the occupant, causing onlookers to think that it didn't work. One of the scientists remark that the video recording from the chair consists of 18 hours of static, which he is unable to explain.]]
13th Aug '16 8:18:03 AM Materioptikon
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* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' has the technology behind the Vertical Maneuvering Equipment's grapples.

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* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' has the technology behind the Vertical Maneuvering Equipment's grapples. The technical department alone knows how it works and how to improve it. The military has even lighter gear.
13th Aug '16 8:16:04 AM Materioptikon
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* ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' has the technology behind the Vertical Maneuvering Equipment's grapples.
3rd Aug '16 2:36:07 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', much of Forerunner technology is still considered this by the galaxy's current races, despite their best efforts to reverse-engineer it:
** The series even has a rare example where the black box is in the aliens' hands; not only is almost all of Covenant's technology reverse-engineered from Forerunner relics, but a good percentage of their equipment is directly constructed by prehistoric Forerunner machinery, and some high-end Covenant ships even have Forerunner components directly installed. However, due to the Covenant worshiping the Forerunners as gods, even just trying to better understand Forerunner technology runs the risk of being seen as heresy. For this reason, the Covenant do not use even their own knock-off technology, much less the Forerunner originals, very efficiently.
** Zig-zagged by humanity:
*** On one hand, they have a surprisingly good understanding of how the Covenant's knock-off technology works, and are often able to drastically improve captured Covenant technology, as demonstrated in the ExpandedUniverse; for example, Cortana is able to convert a plasma torpedo launcher on a hijacked Covenant ship into a WaveMotionGun by simply recalibrating its programming. That said, while they might know how the technology ''works'', they still have trouble figuring out how it's ''built'', meaning that even post-war humanity is still mostly reliant on ballistic weapons.
*** On the other hand, Forerunner technology is still largely a mystery to them, despite the occasional reverse-engineering success. For example, humanity's post-war flagship ''Infinity'' has several Forerunner components installed, including its slipspace drive. However, not even the ship's chief scientist quite understands how said components actually work.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', much of Forerunner [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] technology is still considered this by the galaxy's current races, despite their best efforts to reverse-engineer it:
** The series even has a rare example where the black box is in the aliens' hands; not only is almost all of Covenant's technology reverse-engineered from Forerunner relics, but a good percentage of their equipment is directly constructed by prehistoric Forerunner machinery, and some high-end Covenant ships even have Forerunner components directly installed. However, due to the Covenant worshiping the Forerunners as gods, even just trying to better understand Forerunner technology runs the risk of being seen as heresy. For this reason, the Covenant do not use even their own knock-off technology, technology very efficiently, much less the Forerunner originals, very efficiently.
originals.
** Zig-zagged by humanity:
humanity's understanding of Forerunner tech:
*** On one hand, they have a surprisingly good understanding of how the Covenant's knock-off technology works, versions work, and are often able to drastically improve captured Covenant technology, as demonstrated in the ExpandedUniverse; for example, Cortana is able to convert a plasma torpedo launcher on a hijacked Covenant ship into a WaveMotionGun by simply recalibrating its programming. That said, while they might know how the Covie technology ''works'', they still have trouble figuring out how it's ''built'', meaning that even post-war humanity is still mostly reliant on ballistic weapons.
*** On the other hand, proper Forerunner technology is still largely a mystery to them, despite the occasional reverse-engineering success. For example, humanity's post-war flagship ''Infinity'' has several Forerunner components installed, including its slipspace drive. However, not even the ship's chief scientist quite understands how said components actually work.
3rd Aug '16 2:29:51 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* A rare example where the black box is in the alien's hands is in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' universe, where all of the super powerful technology used by the Covenant are just leftovers of another alien race called the Forerunners. Instead of even trying to discover the means of its operation, they take them to have divine powers and remember the Forerunners as gods. For this reason it has been established that they do not even use the technology very efficiently. By contrast, human attempts to analyse captured Covenant technology, as demonstrated in the ExpandedUniverse novels, result in drastic improvements. Cortana, for example, analyzes the tech and uses it against the Covenant by [[spoiler:converting a plasma torpedo launcher on a ship they hijacked into a WaveMotionGun by simply recalibrating its programming. This turned out to be not so beneficial when the rogue Covenant AI on that ship managed to send the information about the improvements out to other ships in the area.]]
** The inability of the Covenant to use their technology is made very obvious in the manual with the Halo 2 collector's edition, where the Covenant hierarchy themselves state they have no way of recharging plasma weapons in the field, and all Covenant troops are trained to throw away a depleted weapon and take a charged one off their dead comrades.

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* A In ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'', much of Forerunner technology is still considered this by the galaxy's current races, despite their best efforts to reverse-engineer it:
** The series even has a
rare example where the black box is in the alien's hands aliens' hands; not only is in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' universe, where almost all of the super powerful Covenant's technology used reverse-engineered from Forerunner relics, but a good percentage of their equipment is directly constructed by prehistoric Forerunner machinery, and some high-end Covenant ships even have Forerunner components directly installed. However, due to the Covenant are just leftovers of another alien race called the Forerunners. Instead of even trying to discover the means of its operation, they take them to have divine powers and remember worshiping the Forerunners as gods. For this reason it has been established that they do not gods, even use the just trying to better understand Forerunner technology runs the risk of being seen as heresy. For this reason, the Covenant do not use even their own knock-off technology, much less the Forerunner originals, very efficiently. By contrast, human attempts efficiently.
** Zig-zagged by humanity:
*** On one hand, they have a surprisingly good understanding of how the Covenant's knock-off technology works, and are often able
to analyse drastically improve captured Covenant technology, as demonstrated in the ExpandedUniverse novels, result in drastic improvements. Cortana, ExpandedUniverse; for example, analyzes the tech and uses it against the Covenant by [[spoiler:converting Cortana is able to convert a plasma torpedo launcher on a ship they hijacked Covenant ship into a WaveMotionGun by simply recalibrating its programming. This turned That said, while they might know how the technology ''works'', they still have trouble figuring out to be not so beneficial when the rogue Covenant AI on how it's ''built'', meaning that ship managed to send even post-war humanity is still mostly reliant on ballistic weapons.
*** On
the information about the improvements out to other ships in the area.]]
** The inability of the Covenant to use their
hand, Forerunner technology is made very obvious still largely a mystery to them, despite the occasional reverse-engineering success. For example, humanity's post-war flagship ''Infinity'' has several Forerunner components installed, including its slipspace drive. However, not even the ship's chief scientist quite understands how said components actually work.
** The Forerunners even created an entire species embodying this trope; the Huragok/Engineers are biological supercomputers who are incredibly adept with technology. However, despite being one of the nicest species
in the manual with entire galaxy, the Halo 2 collector's edition, where Huragok are absolutely ''terrible'' at explaining their technological know-how to other species; the Covenant hierarchy themselves lore tidbit for ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians''[='s=] Huragok-designed "King" visor states that humanity has almost no idea how to reproduce it, despite the fact that its inventor is under their employ.
** In ''[[VideoGame/{{Halo 4}} Spartan Ops]]'', one frustrated human scientist describes the current
state they have no of his species's research on Forerunner technology as such:
-->"We are like monkeys banging on a drum just because we like the
way of recharging plasma weapons in the field, and all Covenant troops are trained to throw away a depleted weapon and take a charged one off their dead comrades.it sounds!"
13th Jul '16 1:25:58 AM Grade0
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* The sentinel stations in ''Anime/SoundOfTheSky.'' Felicia points out that they're just checking to see if they still work and there's nothing that can be done if they're broken. Noël even calls them a black box.



* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Anja and Donald Donlan created a computer that runs on magic, which even they don't fully understand the workings of. They're the only ones who use it--the rest of the Court distrusts it precisely because it's a Black Box.

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* In ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'', Anja and Donald and Donlan created a computer that runs on magic, which even they don't fully understand the workings of. They're the only ones who use it--the rest of the Court distrusts it precisely because it's a Black Box.
10th Jun '16 1:36:47 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''MachineOfDeath'' is a device that takes a person's blood sample and predicts how that person will die. It's cheap to use and possible to duplicate, but no one knows how it works.

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* The ''MachineOfDeath'' ''Literature/MachineOfDeath'' is a device that takes a person's blood sample and predicts how that person will die. It's cheap to use and possible to duplicate, but no one knows how it works.
7th Jun '16 9:17:47 AM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The SDF-1 in ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' is riddled with black boxes, often causing bits of advanced alien tech to do things that the humans never expected them to do. By later series in the franchise, humanity has reverse-engineered most of the ''Macross'''s technology and is in full control of it.

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* ''Anime/{{Macross}}'': The SDF-1 in ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' is riddled with black boxes, often causing bits of advanced alien tech to do things that the humans never expected them to do. By the time of the later series in the franchise, humanity has reverse-engineered most of the ''Macross'''s technology and is in full can fully control of it.
15th May '16 8:38:47 PM nombretomado
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*** In UltimateMarvel and the MarvelCinematicUniverse, the serum itself was quickly replicated, but an army of Captain Americas is still impossible because the ''recipient'' is the key factor; In Ultimate, it only works on subjects with [[TheDeterminator superhuman willpower]], keeping the successes at a minimum. In the MCU, it grants PersonalityPowers, meaning unless the government is willing to stick needles in a card-carrying ''saint''(who would thus never perform deniable operations), all they would get is more ComicBook/{{Red Skull}}s.

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*** In UltimateMarvel and the MarvelCinematicUniverse, Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, the serum itself was quickly replicated, but an army of Captain Americas is still impossible because the ''recipient'' is the key factor; In Ultimate, it only works on subjects with [[TheDeterminator superhuman willpower]], keeping the successes at a minimum. In the MCU, it grants PersonalityPowers, meaning unless the government is willing to stick needles in a card-carrying ''saint''(who would thus never perform deniable operations), all they would get is more ComicBook/{{Red Skull}}s.
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