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3rd Dec '17 1:31:52 AM Fireblood
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** Daenerys Targaryen has a fair bit of difficulty understanding that not all of the people who rebelled against her father and usurped her family's throne are faithless, power hungry traitors. In particular, every time she hears anyone say anything good about Eddard Stark (who the readers know one of the only genuinely heroic characters in the series) she refuses to listen, and continues believing him to be a cold hearted villain. [[spoiler:She starts to grow out of this after finding out from Barristan Selmy that her father really was TheCaligula. She's also not as quick to condemn Eddard for his association with Robert Baratheon when she realizes that by the same logic that she uses to condemn him, (essentially guilt by association) she is a childkiller like her dragon]].

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** Daenerys Targaryen has a fair bit of difficulty understanding that not all of the people who rebelled against her father and usurped her family's throne are faithless, power hungry power-hungry traitors. In particular, every time she hears anyone say anything good about Eddard Stark (who the readers know one of the only genuinely heroic characters in the series) she refuses to listen, and continues believing him to be a cold hearted villain. [[spoiler:She starts to grow out of this after finding out from Barristan Selmy that her father really was TheCaligula. She's also not as quick to condemn Eddard for his association with Robert Baratheon when she realizes that by the same logic that she uses to condemn him, (essentially guilt by association) she is a childkiller child-killer like her dragon]].


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* This is Shown in ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'', a world in which the forces of light finally won a decisive victory over darkness a hundred and fifty years ago. By the time of the story's present, the heroes of the world run about unchecked and have no qualms hunting down [[NonMaliciousMonster Non Malicious Monsters]], brainwashing villains and robbing them of their free will, and committing genocide on AlwaysChaoticEvil races. They believe their actions are acceptable since they're "on the right side" but the [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] of the story note that they seem more concerned with "Black and White" than "Right and Wrong."
30th Nov '17 3:03:05 AM CountDorku
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* The Crimson Court DLC for ''VideoGame/DarkestDungeon'' added new bosses to the game, one of them being a prime example of this trope: the Fanatic. Obsessed with destroying the Crimson Curse, he shows up in random dungeons to attack parties containing infected heroes, and is completely unconcerned with whether or not the people he burns at the stake are themselves infected; anyone with the Crimson Curse, to him, is evil, and anyone who aids them is abetting that evil. Even the Ancestor, a man whose obsessive pursuit of [[ThereAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Things Man Was Not Meant To Know]] led to him shooting himself in the head while an angry mob broke down the door to his room, [[EvenEvilHasStandards thinks the Fanatic is little more than a rabid animal]].

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* The Crimson Court DLC for ''VideoGame/DarkestDungeon'' added new bosses to the game, one of them being a prime example of this trope: the Fanatic. Obsessed with destroying the Crimson Curse, he shows up in random dungeons to attack parties containing infected heroes, and is completely unconcerned with whether or not the people he burns at the stake are themselves infected; anyone with the Crimson Curse, to him, is evil, and anyone who aids them is abetting that evil. Even the Ancestor, a man whose obsessive pursuit of [[ThereAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Things Man Was Not Meant To Know]] led to him shooting himself in the head while an angry mob broke down the door to his room, [[EvenEvilHasStandards thinks the Fanatic is little more than a rabid animal]].
30th Nov '17 3:02:10 AM CountDorku
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* The Crimson Court DLC for ''VideoGame/DarkestDungeon'' added new bosses to the game, one of them being a prime example of this trope: the Fanatic. Obsessed with destroying the Crimson Curse, he shows up in random dungeons to attack parties containing infected heroes, and is completely unconcerned with whether or not the people he burns at the stake are themselves infected; anyone with the Crimson Curse, to him, is evil, and anyone who aids them is abetting that evil. Even the Ancestor, a man whose obsessive pursuit of [[ThereAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Things Man Was Not Meant To Know]] led to him shooting himself in the head while an angry mob broke down the door to his room, [[EvenEvilHasStandards thinks the Fanatic is little more than a rabid animal]].
21st Nov '17 3:49:31 PM Arcana4th
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* ''Series/TheGoodPlace'': The Afterlife works like this. The Good Place is only for outstanding high achieving philanthropists, and everyone else goes to The Bad Place. There's also no middle ground, people who were jerks, evil and people who were nice but not enough all go to The Bad Place, based on an arbitrary pointing system (you lose points for being French and gets points for being vegan). The system gets called out all the time for this fact, Eleanor often makes comments on the fact that she wasn't good, but she wasn't evil either and there should be a place where middle people go.
3rd Nov '17 12:16:24 AM fobarimperius
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* Handsome Jack of ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands 2}}'' operates off of the reasoning of "Hyperion = good, everyone else = bad", completely disregarding everything good his enemies have done and his own moral bankruptcy.

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* Handsome Jack of ''{{VideoGame/Borderlands 2}}'' operates off of the reasoning of "Hyperion = good, everyone else = bad", completely disregarding everything good his enemies have done and his own moral bankruptcy. Even when recalling a story of scooping out someones eyes with a spoon, he'll still recall the story as if they were some kind of insane savage because of the fact that they weren't Hyperion, and laugh about the incident like the guy brought it on himself and started it when in reality it sounds like the guy was trying to defend his kids from Jack.
29th Oct '17 3:20:22 AM StFan
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-->-- '''Garrus Vakarian''' after realizing what he was becoming, ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''

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-->-- '''Garrus Vakarian''' after (after realizing what he was becoming, becoming), ''VideoGame/MassEffect2''



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* In ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'', Priscilla believed that she and the [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Organization]] were absolutely good because they protected Humanity from the predations of the Yoma, therefore all those who opposed them - Yoma but also traitors like Teresa - were evil, stemming from highly-traumatic experiences in her childhood. Her beliefs were so entrenched that she couldn't even understand ''why she wasn't winning against Teresa if she was the "bad guy"''. Once Teresa beats her she completely loses it, she throws herself at Teresa and [[spoiler:[[AndThenJohnWasAZombie awakens]], becoming the very thing she hated so much. And the series' BigBad too]].
** To complicate things further, one of the scientists at the organization has a theory about her black and white insanity: she had to develop such a twisted view of the world or she would have awoken much sooner; [[spoiler:the secret to cultivating a strong Awakening involves a contradiction of self hate. Claymores hate Yoma, which are fueled by stress (and human entrails), but Claymores ARE part Yoma. Thus, the more they hate the Yoma and themselves, the more stress they develop, and the more inner power they can possess when they awaken. Priscilla in particular had the perceptive skill to realize that when she killed the Yoma that looked like her father, it actually ''was'' her father, then resorted to cannibalism on her father's corpse to survive (she was quarantined and everyone assumed she was a Yoma who killed her family). From there, she deluded herself into thinking that she was raped by an evil Yoma instead because the truth can basically be summed up as "your father was driven insane and wanted to kill you and eat you, and then ''you'' killed him and ate him and were driven insane'' and that is basically stress city]]. Yeesh.

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* In ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'', Priscilla believed that she and the [[TheOmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Organization]] were absolutely good because they protected Humanity from the predations of the Yoma, therefore all those who opposed them - Yoma but also traitors like Teresa - were evil, stemming from highly-traumatic experiences in her childhood. Her beliefs were so entrenched that she couldn't even understand ''why she wasn't winning against Teresa if she was the "bad guy"''. Once Teresa beats her she completely loses it, she throws herself at Teresa and [[spoiler:[[AndThenJohnWasAZombie awakens]], becoming the very thing she hated so much. And the series' BigBad too]].
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too]].\\\
To complicate things further, one of the scientists at the organization has a theory about her black and white insanity: she had to develop such a twisted view of the world or she would have awoken much sooner; [[spoiler:the secret to cultivating a strong Awakening involves a contradiction of self hate. Claymores hate Yoma, which are fueled by stress (and human entrails), but Claymores ARE part Yoma. Thus, the more they hate the Yoma and themselves, the more stress they develop, and the more inner power they can possess when they awaken. Priscilla in particular had the perceptive skill to realize that when she killed the Yoma that looked like her father, it actually ''was'' her father, then resorted to cannibalism on her father's corpse to survive (she was quarantined and everyone assumed she was a Yoma who killed her family). From there, she deluded herself into thinking that she was raped by an evil Yoma instead because the truth can basically be summed up as "your father was driven insane and wanted to kill you and eat you, and then ''you'' killed him and ate him and were driven insane'' and that is basically stress city]]. Yeesh.






* In ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' ComicBook/TwoFace is sometimes portrayed as having this as the root of his multiple personality disorder.
** This is particularly obvious in his post-''Year One'' characterisations, where the "good" persona believes in fairness and the hope of goodness in people, while the "evil" side sees unfairness and cheating everywhere. To quote his revised origin:
-->'''"Harvey"''': ''Good boys don't do bad things.''
-->'''"Two-Face"''': ''BAD BOYS DON'T DO GOOD THINGS.''
** His original character concept was even more so. Originally he was actually supposed to do good deeds when the coin landed unscarred face up.
** Batman himself occasionally comes into this DependingOnTheWriter, usually in stories in which it's pointed out how close to insanity he often walks. TheJoker in particular seems very fond of calling him out on this, most famously in ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''.

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* In ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
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ComicBook/TwoFace is sometimes portrayed as having this as the root of his multiple personality disorder.
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disorder. His original character concept was even more so. Originally he was actually supposed to do good deeds when the coin landed unscarred face up. This is particularly obvious in his post-''Year One'' characterisations, characterizations, where the "good" persona believes in fairness and the hope of goodness in people, while the "evil" side sees unfairness and cheating everywhere. To quote his revised origin:
-->'''"Harvey"''': --->'''"Harvey":''' ''Good boys don't do bad things.''\\
'''"Two-Face":''' ''BAD BOYS DON'T DO GOOD THINGS.
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-->'''"Two-Face"''': ''BAD BOYS DON'T DO GOOD THINGS.''
** His original character concept was even more so. Originally he was actually supposed to do good deeds when the coin landed unscarred face up.
** Batman himself occasionally comes into this DependingOnTheWriter, usually in stories in which it's pointed out how close to insanity he often walks. TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker in particular seems very fond of calling him out on this, most famously in ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke''.



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-->'''Emma''': No. Dmitri's wrong. Sure, there may be a few neutral people in the world. But, especially in Total Drama, everyone can be split into good or evil.

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-->'''Emma''': -->'''Emma:''' No. Dmitri's wrong. Sure, there may be a few neutral people in the world. But, especially in Total Drama, ''Total Drama'', everyone can be split into good or evil.



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* Two-Face's condition is even worse in ''Film/BatmanForever'', where his good side, if he even has one, seems to be an excuse at best. To emphasize the point, he has two female henchmen named Sugar and Spice, a pair of attractive women who are supposed to represent his good side (Creator/DrewBarrymore) and his evil side (Debi Mazar) in very sexy ways. However, Sugar, the one who is supposed to represent his good side, is just as evil as Spice.
** Two-Face's actions show that rather than having a good side and an evil side, he only has the evil side but becomes obsessed with wanting the world to be fair. He only looks to commit murders but everyone gets a coin toss for a chance to be let go.

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* Two-Face's condition is even worse in ''Film/BatmanForever'', where his good side, if he even has one, seems to be an excuse at best. To emphasize the point, he has two female henchmen named Sugar and Spice, a pair of attractive women who are supposed to represent his good side (Creator/DrewBarrymore) and his evil side (Debi Mazar) in very sexy ways. However, Sugar, the one who is supposed to represent his good side, is just as evil as Spice.
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Spice. Two-Face's actions show that rather than having a good side and an evil side, he only has the evil side but becomes obsessed with wanting the world to be fair. He only looks to commit murders but everyone gets a coin toss for a chance to be let go.



* ''Film/GodBlessAmerica'': With his strict morality of right versus wrong, Frank Murdoch's reality crumbles. He comes across as being less capable of comprehending the world than Roxy Harmon, who easily exploit his insecurity to get him to embark on his misguided crusade. While he's a WindmillCrusader, she seems to simply be in it ForTheEvulz.
** The television ranter, tea party members and Westboro Baptist Church picketers Frank kills are also portrayed as suffering from this - either genuinely or simply pretending to get attention.

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* ''Film/GodBlessAmerica'': ''Film/GodBlessAmerica'':
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With his strict morality of right versus wrong, Frank Murdoch's reality crumbles. He comes across as being less capable of comprehending the world than Roxy Harmon, who easily exploit his insecurity to get him to embark on his misguided crusade. While he's a WindmillCrusader, she seems to simply be in it ForTheEvulz.
** The television ranter, tea party members and Westboro Baptist Church picketers Frank kills are also portrayed as suffering from this - -- either genuinely or simply pretending to get attention.



* Played with in the Literature/{{Discworld}} books. Granny Weatherwax is accused of having an overly black-and-white view of the world in ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', but as she explains to Mightily Oats, in her opinion "[[AntiHero gray's just white]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo that's got grubby]]."

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* Played with in the Literature/{{Discworld}} ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' books. Granny Weatherwax is accused of having an overly black-and-white view of the world in ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', but as she explains to Mightily Oats, in her opinion "[[AntiHero gray's just white]] [[IDidWhatIHadToDo that's got grubby]]."



* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'':

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* Galad from ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' has a comparatively minor case of this; he's described as "always doing the right thing, no matter who it hurts" and has ''very'' strict ideas concerning what right and wrong entail. This leads him eventually to join [[ChurchMilitant the Children of the Light]], an organization (in)famous for this kind of thinking. [[spoiler:In the later books he begins to be lighten up, at least a little, especially after people he respects challenge his world view and point out how even the best intentioned person can be simply wrong, even working from the best information that they have. On the plus side, because he's now influential in the Children, his lightening up is taking the organization with him]].

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* ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'':
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Galad from ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' has a comparatively minor case of this; he's described as "always doing the right thing, no matter who it hurts" and has ''very'' strict ideas concerning what right and wrong entail. This leads him eventually to join [[ChurchMilitant the Children of the Light]], an organization (in)famous for this kind of thinking. [[spoiler:In the later books he begins to be lighten up, at least a little, especially after people he respects challenge his world view and point out how even the best intentioned person can be simply wrong, even working from the best information that they have. On the plus side, because he's now influential in the Children, his lightening up is taking the organization with him]].



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** Connor. The sad fact is that he never really adjusts to our world. Angel is a killer; therefore, he should die. The world is harsh and cruel; Jasmine made it a paradise, so she must be good.
*** He considers himself ''above'' Angel Investigations in this respect, accusing them of fighting empty battles and helping to maintain the status quo.

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** Connor. The sad fact is that he never really adjusts to our world. Angel is a killer; therefore, he should die. The world is harsh and cruel; Jasmine made it a paradise, so she must be good.
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good. He considers himself ''above'' Angel Investigations in this respect, accusing them of fighting empty battles and helping to maintain the status quo.



* In Music/BillyJoel's song "Shades of Grey", while he notes his own departure from BlackAndWhiteMorality and how much easier it was, he also cautions in the vein of this trope:
--> And the only people I fear
--> are those who never have doubts
--> Save us all from arrogant men,
--> and all the causes they're for
** This is also exemplified in the title character of his "Angry Young Man."

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* Music/BillyJoel:
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In Music/BillyJoel's his song "Shades of Grey", while he notes his own departure from BlackAndWhiteMorality and how much easier it was, he also cautions in the vein of this trope:
--> And --->''And the only people I fear
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fear\\
are those who never have doubts
-->
doubts\\
Save us all from arrogant men,
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men,\\
and all the causes they're for
for''
** This is also exemplified in the title character of his "Angry Young Man."Man".



--> I'm a super hero!!\\
The time has come to change the world\\
Call me insane? Call me a murderer?\\
You're the ones who are evil!

--> Terrorist, you say? That's outrageous!\\
Hey, where do you think you're taking me?!\\
I protect everyone, this town, this world, and you!\\
I'm your great and noble hero!!\\
This wasn't the way it ended on TV....

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--> I'm -->''I'm a super hero!!\\
hero!!\\
The time has come to change the world\\
world\\
Call me insane? Call me a murderer?\\
murderer?\\
You're the ones who are evil!

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evil!\\\
Terrorist, you say? That's outrageous!\\
outrageous!\\
Hey, where do you think you're taking me?!\\
me?!\\
I protect everyone, this town, this world, and you!\\
you!\\
I'm your great and noble hero!!\\
hero!!\\
This wasn't the way it ended on TV....''



-->And black and white thoughts have all bowed to me\\
As Iíve walked through their unlit corridors

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-->And -->''And black and white thoughts have all bowed to me\\
me\\
As Iíve I've walked through their unlit corridorscorridors''



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* Tuyet from ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}''. She's a LawfulEvil character, who wants to take over the Matoran universe because she genuinely believes [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans she could make it a better place]]. However, an Alternate Universe shows that this would mean brainwashing all the other Toa into {{Knight Templar}}s, and killing anyone who poses a potential threat to her position as Empress.
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* In ''Tabletopgame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', pretty much every single sentient being is afflicted by this, due to FantasticRacism. Except the AlwaysChaoticEvil ones. Of course, this being [[EvilVersusEvil Warhammer 40000]], the only mistake most of them make is assuming there's a 'white'.

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* In ''Tabletopgame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', ''Tabletopgame/Warhammer40000'', pretty much every single sentient being is afflicted by this, due to FantasticRacism. Except the AlwaysChaoticEvil ones. Of course, this being [[EvilVersusEvil ''[[EvilVersusEvil Warhammer 40000]], 40000]]'', the only mistake most of them make is assuming there's a 'white'."white".



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* Tuyet from ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}''. She's a LawfulEvil character, who wants to take over the Matoran universe because she genuinely believes [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans she could make it a better place]]. However, an Alternate Universe shows that this would mean brainwashing all the other Toa into {{Knight Templar}}s, and killing anyone who poses a potential threat to her position as Empress.
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* Miko in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is built on this trope, growing increasingly delusional over the course of the story arc. As her insanity increases, it changes her from a mere KnightTemplar into a total WindmillCrusader - handwaving even the fact that the Gods have stripped her of her paladin powers.

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* Miko in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' is built on this trope, growing increasingly delusional over the course of the story arc. As her insanity increases, it changes her from a mere KnightTemplar into a total WindmillCrusader - -- handwaving even the fact that the Gods have stripped her of her paladin powers.



* Glinda comes off as this in the ''Kings War'' arc of ''{{Webcomic/Roommates}}'', when she goes to war against an ''evil'', ''greedy'', ''glory seeking'' villain who fooled people into thinking that he changed and got his hand on a magical kingdom, but villains are villains and heroes heroes, period... In her own world she might be justified, OZ is not the land of great moral ambiguity, but because the comic is a MoralityKitchenSink that ''villain'' happened to be a LawfulGood ex-HeroAntagonist, who is also the TokenGoodTeammate of the main cast. When she explained her reason boiled down to: "There are heroes and there are villains, you are a villain so you must be opposed."

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* Glinda comes off as this in the ''Kings War'' arc of ''{{Webcomic/Roommates}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Roommates}}'', when she goes to war against an ''evil'', ''greedy'', ''glory seeking'' villain who fooled people into thinking that he changed and got his hand on a magical kingdom, but villains are villains and heroes heroes, period... In her own world she might be justified, OZ is not the land of great moral ambiguity, but because the comic is a MoralityKitchenSink that ''villain'' happened to be a LawfulGood ex-HeroAntagonist, who is also the TokenGoodTeammate of the main cast. When she explained her reason boiled down to: "There are heroes and there are villains, you are a villain so you must be opposed."



-->'''Tucker:''' you're either with me...
-->'''Sam:''' ...or you're against him!
-->'''Both:''' SO WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?!

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-->'''Tucker:''' you're either with me...
-->'''Sam:''' ...
me...\\
'''Sam:''' ...
or you're against him!
-->'''Both:'''
him!\\
'''Both:'''
SO WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?!



* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': Bismuth sees the world as Crystal Gems= Good Homeworld Gems= Evil. [[spoiler: Her view goes to the point where she creates the Breaking Point, a weapon meant to render gems DeaderThanDead, and when Rose (and later Steven) protest, she attacks them, as she sees anyone trying to show mercy to the Homeworld Gems as just as evil.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': Bismuth sees the world as Crystal Gems= Good Gems = Good; Homeworld Gems= Gems = Evil. [[spoiler: Her [[spoiler:Her view goes to the point where she creates the Breaking Point, a weapon meant to render gems DeaderThanDead, and when Rose (and later Steven) protest, she attacks them, as she sees anyone trying to show mercy to the Homeworld Gems as just as evil.]]



27th Oct '17 7:39:14 PM Valkyr
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* Most of the human antagonists in ''Literature/HereticalEdge'' thing this way. The hardline faction is convinced that everything supernatural and non-human is pure evil and inimical to humanity. They're very, very wrong.
15th Sep '17 2:52:52 AM Byzantine
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Logicomix}}'', Ferge is totally honest and devoted to truth & logic. Sadly, this devotion combined with IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance leads to Black and White Insanity in the form of a StrawVulcan despite for women and Jews. On the whole, this makes him a TroubledSympatheticBigot who is desperately trying to do the right thing.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Logicomix}}'', Ferge is totally honest and devoted to truth & and logic. Sadly, this devotion combined with IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance leads to Black and White Insanity in the form of a StrawVulcan despite for women and Jews. On the whole, this makes him a TroubledSympatheticBigot who is desperately trying to do the right thing.
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* Dumbledore in ''Fanfic/PrincessOfTheBlacks'' series outright insists that either you're good and would never kill anyone under any circumstances or you're evil and have to be redeemed. Even someone like Voldemort shouldn't be killed in his book.
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* In ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'', as Anders becomes more and more obsessed with the Mage/Templar issue of Kirkwall and as [[FightingFromTheInside he's starting to lose the battle against Vengeance]], he becomes more and more hostile to those he perceives as pro-Templar or just generally an enemy of the mages, including those in Hawke's party, and including other mages. At the nadir of his madness, one isn't even allowed to abstain from the debate; choose a side or he'll choose it for you and designate you an enemy.

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* In ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'', as Anders becomes more and more obsessed with the Mage/Templar issue of Kirkwall and as [[FightingFromTheInside he's starting to lose the battle against Vengeance]], he becomes more and more hostile to those he perceives as pro-Templar or just generally an enemy of the mages, including those in Hawke's party, party.
** He seems to struggle equally with the idea that mages can do wrong. No matter how many blood mages you encounter in Kirkwall, he will always assume that accusations of blood magic or wrongdoing on the part of a mage are Templar lies until confronted with direct evidence. When you encounter the conspiracy between mages
and including Templars in Act III, Anders is completely shocked and disbelieving that the prime driving force for attacking Hawke was Grace, a mage they had previously rescued.
-->'''Anders:''' But Grace... we ''saved'' you.
** This is invoked directly in game, by one of your
other mages. At companions:
-->'''Merrill:''' You really do believe, don't you? In freedom, in mages... in good spirits and bad Templars, with more fire than
the nadir of his madness, one isn't even allowed to abstain from the debate; choose a side or he'll choose it for you and designate you an enemy.sun.
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