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15th Sep '17 2:52:52 AM Byzantine
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Logicomix}}'', Ferge is totally honest and devoted to truth & logic. Sadly, this devotion combined with IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance leads to Black and White Insanity in the form of a StrawVulcan despite for women and Jews. On the whole, this makes him a TroubledSympatheticBigot who is desperately trying to do the right thing.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Logicomix}}'', Ferge is totally honest and devoted to truth & and logic. Sadly, this devotion combined with IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance leads to Black and White Insanity in the form of a StrawVulcan despite for women and Jews. On the whole, this makes him a TroubledSympatheticBigot who is desperately trying to do the right thing.
24th Aug '17 11:47:38 AM TheSinful
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* Dumbledore in ''Fanfic/PrincessOfTheBlacks'' series outright insists that either you're good and would never kill anyone under any circumstances or you're evil and have to be redeemed. Even someone like Voldemort shouldn't be killed in his book.
20th Jul '17 1:17:12 PM mikke
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* In ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'', as Anders becomes more and more obsessed with the Mage/Templar issue of Kirkwall and as [[FightingFromTheInside he's starting to lose the battle against Vengeance]], he becomes more and more hostile to those he perceives as pro-Templar or just generally an enemy of the mages, including those in Hawke's party, and including other mages. At the nadir of his madness, one isn't even allowed to abstain from the debate; choose a side or he'll choose it for you and designate you an enemy.

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* In ''Videogame/DragonAgeII'', as Anders becomes more and more obsessed with the Mage/Templar issue of Kirkwall and as [[FightingFromTheInside he's starting to lose the battle against Vengeance]], he becomes more and more hostile to those he perceives as pro-Templar or just generally an enemy of the mages, including those in Hawke's party, party.
** He seems to struggle equally with the idea that mages can do wrong. No matter how many blood mages you encounter in Kirkwall, he will always assume that accusations of blood magic or wrongdoing on the part of a mage are Templar lies until confronted with direct evidence. When you encounter the conspiracy between mages
and including Templars in Act III, Anders is completely shocked and disbelieving that the prime driving force for attacking Hawke was Grace, a mage they had previously rescued.
-->'''Anders:''' But Grace... we ''saved'' you.
** This is invoked directly in game, by one of your
other mages. At companions:
-->'''Merrill:''' You really do believe, don't you? In freedom, in mages... in good spirits and bad Templars, with more fire than
the nadir of his madness, one isn't even allowed to abstain from the debate; choose a side or he'll choose it for you and designate you an enemy.sun.
20th Jul '17 5:53:51 AM Scraggle
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*** Actually this is actively enforced by the organization. A warrior who thinks like that is blindfully loyal to the organiation so they try to raise them to become like that. When they grow up, claymore usually start to think by themsemves but most of the young claymores have shades of this.
18th Jul '17 2:50:29 AM Skylentt
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*** Actually this is actively enforced by the organization. A warrior who thinks like that is blindfully loyal to the organiation so they try to raise them to become like that. When they grow up, claymore usually start to think by themsemves but most of the young claymores have shades of this.
17th Jul '17 5:25:25 PM Trooper924
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* From ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', [[spoiler: Atris has a simplistic morality: everything is either completely good or completely evil. This caused her to turn on the Jedi Order, whom she previously saw as perfect and infallible, when their actions during the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War challenged these notions, leading her to secretly plot to recreate the Jedi Order according to her values--where any force sensitive would be killed for showing even the slightest sign of turning to TheDarkSide. By the time of her final confrontation with [[PlayerCharacter the Exile]], it's clear that Atris' inability to reconcile morally grey actions has caused her to snap and turn to the Dark Side.]]

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* From ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', [[spoiler: Atris has a simplistic sense of morality: everything is either completely good or completely evil. This caused her to turn on the Jedi Order, whom she previously saw as perfect and infallible, when their actions during the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War challenged these notions, leading her to secretly plot to recreate the Jedi Order according to her values--where any force sensitive would be killed for showing even the slightest sign of turning to TheDarkSide. By the time of her final confrontation with [[PlayerCharacter the Exile]], it's clear that Atris' inability to reconcile morally grey actions has caused her to snap and turn to the Dark Side.]]
17th Jul '17 4:49:04 AM Trooper924
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*From ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLords'', [[spoiler: Atris has a simplistic morality: everything is either completely good or completely evil. This caused her to turn on the Jedi Order, whom she previously saw as perfect and infallible, when their actions during the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War challenged these notions, leading her to secretly plot to recreate the Jedi Order according to her values--where any force sensitive would be killed for showing even the slightest sign of turning to TheDarkSide. By the time of her final confrontation with [[PlayerCharacter the Exile]], it's clear that Atris' inability to reconcile morally grey actions has caused her to snap and turn to the Dark Side.]]
12th Jul '17 9:24:23 AM Derkhan
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** Wrong. He first assures, that in current codex commited crime can be punished by death, otherwise it would be law breaking commited by himself. He just always picks the most severe option.
6th May '17 9:38:10 PM The08MetroidMan
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* Shinn Asuka's greatest problem in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' is his inability to accept shades of grey. He's not exactly insane as opposed to being highly unstable as, unlike other examples of the troupe though, it isn't even that he can't see introspection - it's that he just doesn't ''want'' to. By the finale though, he has definitely gone off the deep end, being willing to defend a KillSat about to destroy an entire country - one that he's decided to be pure evil simply because they're opposing his side (the fact that he was until recently a native citizen of said country ''actually fuels this belief'').

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* Shinn Asuka's greatest problem in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' is his inability to accept shades of grey. He's not exactly insane as opposed to being highly unstable as, unlike other examples of the troupe though, troupe, it isn't even that he can't see introspection - it's that he just doesn't ''want'' to. By the finale though, he has definitely gone off the deep end, being willing to defend a KillSat about to destroy an entire country - one that he's decided to be pure evil simply because they're opposing his side (the fact that he was until recently a native citizen of said country ''actually fuels this belief'').


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* As per the quote above, this is played with for Garrus Vakarian in ''VideoGame/MassEffect'' and ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'', both of which portray him as someone who thinks along these lines before he finally mellows out in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3.''
** In the first game, he was someone who saw lawbreakers as people who needed to be put down, with his entire reason for joining Shepard to stop Saren being simply to kill the latter on principle. His introduction has him risking a civilian's life to snap-kill a thug, [[spoiler:and his backstory reveals that'd he'd once advised a transport of civilian hostages be destroyed in order to stop one criminal, willing to write them all off as necessary losses purely because they were in the way]]. Shepard can choose to reinforce or reprimand this behavior, but it won't change who he is at his core; only get him to accept another way of doing things is possible.
** In the second game, he's slid further into this after seeing all the political hogwash on the Citadel in response to (or rather denial of) the Reaper threat, heading to Omega purely because of how easily he could find lawbreakers - and he not only didn't hesitate to kill ''anyone'' who broke the law (be they legally-enforced or just unspoken edict), but he sometimes gave them rather cruel or ironic deaths in line with what crimes they comitted. As before, Shepard can work to either encourage or discourage this behavior, with a Paragon Shepard (who themselves arguably classes as a LawfulGood AntiHero by this point via association with Cerberus) being particularly disturbed by Garrus' more ruthless behavior.
6th May '17 9:25:18 PM The08MetroidMan
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* Shinn Asuka's greatest problem is ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' is his inability to accept shades of grey. He's not exactly insane, but he's certainly highly unstable. Unlike other examples of the troupe though, it isn't even that he can't see introspection - it's that he doesn't ''want'' to. By the finale though, he has definitely gone off the deep end, being willing to defend a KillSat about to destroy an entire country because he believes that country to be pure evil just because they're opposing his side (the fact that he was until recently a native citizen of said country ''actually fuels this belief'').
** Shinn's mess of anger issues are the root cause of this way of thinking; or rather ''lack'' of thinking. He's not an inherently bad kid, but he is too HotBlooded for his own good. Moreover, his "we're good, everyone else is bad" mentality is largely self-enforced to allow him to justify clinging to the vengeful anger that's kept him going all this time, because not only is it his best weapon in battle but it's also the only thing he really has left to give him any purpose in life.

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* Shinn Asuka's greatest problem is in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' is his inability to accept shades of grey. He's not exactly insane, but he's certainly insane as opposed to being highly unstable. Unlike unstable as, unlike other examples of the troupe though, it isn't even that he can't see introspection - it's that he just doesn't ''want'' to. By the finale though, he has definitely gone off the deep end, being willing to defend a KillSat about to destroy an entire country because he believes - one that country he's decided to be pure evil just simply because they're opposing his side (the fact that he was until recently a native citizen of said country ''actually fuels this belief'').
** Shinn's mess of anger issues are the root cause of this way of thinking; or rather ''lack'' of thinking. He's not an inherently bad kid, but he is ''is'' too HotBlooded for his own good. Moreover, his "we're good, everyone else is bad" mentality is implied to largely self-enforced self-enforced, so as to allow him to justify clinging to the vengeful anger that's kept him going all this time, time. This is because not only is it that anger his best weapon in battle battle, but it's also the only thing he really has left to give him any purpose in life.
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