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7th Apr '18 5:10:45 PM nombretomado
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This trope is ''not'' about [[IThoughtItMeant regarding everyone as either completely sane or completely insane]] (though that would be an example of this trope, especially if [[InsaneEqualsViolent insanity is equated to evil]]).

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This trope is ''not'' about [[IThoughtItMeant [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant regarding everyone as either completely sane or completely insane]] (though that would be an example of this trope, especially if [[InsaneEqualsViolent insanity is equated to evil]]).
15th Mar '18 5:37:16 AM gb00393
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** Daenerys shows signs of this during her SlaveLiberation, particularly in Meereen, when she starts dealing out vengeful punishments to the ruling class with the rationale that it is justice because they deserve it because they are evil.

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** Daenerys shows signs of this during her SlaveLiberation, particularly in Meereen, when she starts dealing out vengeful punishments to the ruling class with the rationale that it is justice because they deserve it because they are evil.evil, with no thought to how much or little the individuals involved were actually responsible for. Jorah is eventually able to talk her down, reminding her that he used to be a slaver himself. More subtly, there is her mounting paranoia that has come in as a result of being betrayed and used all her life by Viserys, Illyrio Mopatis, Mirri Maz Duur, the Qartheen, and later the fact that Jorah was initially a spy which has hardened her stance. She still persisted at first in thinking of Robert Baratheon as TheUsurper and remains in the dark about the kind of person her father truly was, believing that the people who deposed him were evil and without cause. By Season 5, however, she has come to be aware of her father's insanity, with Tyrion Lannister now a trusted advisor informing her of why Jaime killed her father. Now, Dany openly refers to her father as terrible.
7th Mar '18 6:06:47 PM nombretomado
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* Ishida Mitsunari in ''VideoGame/SengokuBasara''. He defines 'good' as his master, ToyotomiHideyoshi. If you are a fellow servant of Hideyoshi, he will (grudgingly) tolerate you. If not, you are a vile sinner who will be beaten until you become a servant of Hideyoshi at best or killed in the most gruesome fashion imaginable for the 'sin' of disobedience. It doesn't help that he's quite a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter.

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* Ishida Mitsunari in ''VideoGame/SengokuBasara''. He defines 'good' as his master, ToyotomiHideyoshi.UsefulNotes/ToyotomiHideyoshi. If you are a fellow servant of Hideyoshi, he will (grudgingly) tolerate you. If not, you are a vile sinner who will be beaten until you become a servant of Hideyoshi at best or killed in the most gruesome fashion imaginable for the 'sin' of disobedience. It doesn't help that he's quite a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter.
6th Mar '18 8:01:35 PM ChrisX
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** The LightNovel manages to explain this further: After the encounter with Jack, Atalanta has a black material sticking to her arm, and it was actually a remnant of Jack that was composed of souls of children that demanded vengeance rather than being happy for passing away. Jeanne missed to exorcise that one, and Atalanta let that material stick with her since she considered her failure to save the children something that needs punishment. The result is that [[BrainwashedAndCrazy her hatred to Jeanne got amplified to insane levels.]]
22nd Feb '18 4:15:42 PM Flameal15k
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* Eren Yeager, the protagonist of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan''. He reacts to {{Tragic Villain}}s expressing remorse by exploding into a rage and stating they are inhuman monsters not allowed to feel emotions. When confronted by situations that are morally complicated, he tends to either freeze up or get [[UnstoppableRage angry]]. It makes his attempts to understand [[spoiler:Annie's reasons for killing people]] [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness all the more shocking]]. For whatever reason, he cannot simply dehumanize [[spoiler:Annie]] like he does to other villains. However, given how ugly and bleak the world he lives in is, it's easy to see how he would develop such a mentality, and sometimes, he's downright on the mark. The "animals disguised as humans" he killed could hardly be called anything but. They killed Mikasa's father and mother(In her case, one of the gang objected, but only because she would've fetched a good price on the slave market) and planned to sell the child Mikasa as a sex slave.

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* Eren Yeager, the protagonist of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan''. He reacts to {{Tragic Villain}}s expressing remorse by exploding into a rage and stating they are inhuman monsters not allowed to feel emotions. When confronted by situations that are morally complicated, he tends to either freeze up or get [[UnstoppableRage angry]]. It makes his attempts to understand [[spoiler:Annie's reasons for killing people]] [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness all the more shocking]]. For whatever reason, he cannot simply dehumanize [[spoiler:Annie]] like he does to other villains. However, given how ugly and bleak the world he lives in is, it's easy to see how he would develop such a mentality, and sometimes, he's downright on the mark. The "animals disguised as humans" he killed could hardly be called anything but. They killed Mikasa's father and mother(In her case, one of the gang objected, but only because she would've fetched a good price on the slave market) and planned to sell the child Mikasa as a sex slave. [[spoiler:He grows out of this after the TimeSkip]].
19th Feb '18 5:09:55 PM chopshop
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* The King of Shadows in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights2'' is [[spoiler:the immortal guardian of the Illefarn Empire and his sole purpose for existing is protecting it. He views everything as either part of the empire or an enemy to it, with anybody who attacks him being slotted into the latter category. Since most people want to kill him (for the obvious reason that hes a HumanoidAbomination whos very presence is inimical to life), he thinks that [[OmnicidalManiac the entire world is an enemy of the empire]]. It should be noted that the empire in question ''no longer exists''; it collapsed centuries ago, but the King is so [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity deranged]] and [[LawfulStupid duty-obsessed]] that he genuinely thinks it still stands.]]
10th Feb '18 1:33:36 PM ultimomant
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'':
** This is Zamasu's primary problem. He has a very black and white view of mortals and gods. Namely, mortals are evil and needs to be cleansed, while the gods are good, if not a bit [[TheGodsMustBeLazy lazy]] for not taking care of the mortals. His inability to understand that mortals can learn and grow, and the gods themselves are also [[GodIsFlawed flawed]] and needs to learn from their mistakes is a point of tension between Gowasu and him.
** [[TheCape Toppo]] of Universe 11. His overall perception of Justice and what is evil is very skewed when you see his interactions with Goku. Even though Zen'o had already planned on destroying many of the Universes, which the Grand Priest had already told them, he calls Goku evil on the grounds that Goku has to be evil since he sparked the tournament idea. If anything, he should see Goku as good since he ensured that one of the lower level universes will be spared, and he ensured that every universe has a fair chance to try and make it so that that universe is theirs.
*** Somewhat averted in the manga where he is understanding of Goku giving them this chance (only thinking him as strange for his desire for fighting).
* ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'': Atalanta WouldntHurtAChild, and thus is horrified when she finds out Jack the Ripper is a little girl. To make matters worse, Jack is really an amalgamation of the souls of hundreds of unloved children, driven to murder due to their hatred and rage for their lot in life. Jeanne decides the only thing that can be done is to exorcise them so they can be free from their pain and go to the afterlife. Even after Jeanne explains this, and even after Jack thanks her before passing on, Atalanta condemns her and makes it her mission to kill Jeanne. As far as Atalanta is concerned, even if it was a MercyKill, Jeanne killed those children, and that makes her evil.



* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'':
** This is Zamasu's primary problem. He has a very black and white view of mortals and gods. Namely, mortals are evil and needs to be cleansed, while the gods are good, if not a bit [[TheGodsMustBeLazy lazy]] for not taking care of the mortals. His inability to understand that mortals can learn and grow, and the gods themselves are also [[GodIsFlawed flawed]] and needs to learn from their mistakes is a point of tension between Gowasu and him.
** [[TheCape Toppo]] of Universe 11. His overall perception of Justice and what is evil is very skewed when you see his interactions with Goku. Even though Zen'o had already planned on destroying many of the Universes, which the Grand Priest had already told them, he calls Goku evil on the grounds that Goku has to be evil since he sparked the tournament idea. If anything, he should see Goku as good since he ensured that one of the lower level universes will be spared, and he ensured that every universe has a fair chance to try and make it so that that universe is theirs.
*** Somewhat averted in the manga where he is understanding of Goku giving them this chance (only thinking him as strange for his desire for fighting).
4th Feb '18 6:19:05 PM meowloudly15
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%%* Holden Caulfield from ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'' suffers from this trope, and the consequences are apparent. %% Zero Context Example. Please add context

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%%* * Holden Caulfield from ''Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye'' suffers from this trope, thinking that the entire world of adulthood is filled with phonies and that children should be protected from the consequences are apparent. %% Zero Context Example. Please add contextreal world's corrupting influence. He eventually realizes the extent of the overprotectiveness to which he would be subjecting children, but ends up in the mental hospital nonetheless.



* Most of the human antagonists in ''Literature/HereticalEdge'' thing this way. The hardline faction is convinced that everything supernatural and non-human is pure evil and inimical to humanity. They're very, very wrong.



* This is Shown in ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'', a world in which the forces of light finally won a decisive victory over darkness a hundred and fifty years ago. By the time of the story's present, the heroes of the world run about unchecked and have no qualms hunting down [[NonMaliciousMonster Non Malicious Monsters]], brainwashing villains and robbing them of their free will, and committing genocide on AlwaysChaoticEvil races. They believe their actions are acceptable since they're "on the right side" but the [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] of the story note that they seem more concerned with "Black and White" than "Right and Wrong."
* In ''Literature/WarriorCats'', [[ByronicHero Hollyleaf]] believes that the warrior code is the utmost right and that it must be protected at all costs. [[spoiler:When she learns that her entire ''existence'' goes against Clan tradition, [[SanitySlippage she becomes justifiably insane.]] ]]



* Most of the human antagonists in ''Literature/HereticalEdge'' thing this way. The hardline faction is convinced that everything supernatural and non-human is pure evil and inimical to humanity. They're very, very wrong.
* This is Shown in ''Literature/VillainsByNecessity'', a world in which the forces of light finally won a decisive victory over darkness a hundred and fifty years ago. By the time of the story's present, the heroes of the world run about unchecked and have no qualms hunting down [[NonMaliciousMonster Non Malicious Monsters]], brainwashing villains and robbing them of their free will, and committing genocide on AlwaysChaoticEvil races. They believe their actions are acceptable since they're "on the right side" but the [[VillainProtagonist Villain Protagonists]] of the story note that they seem more concerned with "Black and White" than "Right and Wrong."
4th Feb '18 9:10:16 AM nombretomado
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* [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Zealot Angels]] in ''[[NexusWar Nexus]]'' games fall into this trope with frightening regularity, although it's hard to tell whether Namm (their patron god)is [[IncorruptiblePurePureness immune]] to it as his PR says or the [[KnightTemplar worst]] example.

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* [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Zealot Angels]] in ''[[NexusWar Nexus]]'' ''VideoGame/{{Nexus|War}}'' games fall into this trope with frightening regularity, although it's hard to tell whether Namm (their patron god)is [[IncorruptiblePurePureness immune]] to it as his PR says or the [[KnightTemplar worst]] example.
28th Jan '18 1:32:09 PM VulgarBee
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* This is Zamasu's primary problem from ''Anime/DragonBallSuper''. He has a very black and white view of mortals and gods. Namely, mortals are evil and needs to be cleansed, while the gods are good, if not a bit [[TheGodsMustBeLazy lazy]] for not taking care of the mortals. His inability to understand that mortals can learn and grow, and the gods themselves are also [[GodIsFlawed flawed]] and needs to learn from their mistakes is a point of tension between Gowasu and him.

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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'':
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This is Zamasu's primary problem from ''Anime/DragonBallSuper''.problem. He has a very black and white view of mortals and gods. Namely, mortals are evil and needs to be cleansed, while the gods are good, if not a bit [[TheGodsMustBeLazy lazy]] for not taking care of the mortals. His inability to understand that mortals can learn and grow, and the gods themselves are also [[GodIsFlawed flawed]] and needs to learn from their mistakes is a point of tension between Gowasu and him.him.
** [[TheCape Toppo]] of Universe 11. His overall perception of Justice and what is evil is very skewed when you see his interactions with Goku. Even though Zen'o had already planned on destroying many of the Universes, which the Grand Priest had already told them, he calls Goku evil on the grounds that Goku has to be evil since he sparked the tournament idea. If anything, he should see Goku as good since he ensured that one of the lower level universes will be spared, and he ensured that every universe has a fair chance to try and make it so that that universe is theirs.
*** Somewhat averted in the manga where he is understanding of Goku giving them this chance (only thinking him as strange for his desire for fighting).
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