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22nd Mar '17 2:23:33 PM Bugfragged
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* ''VideoGame/NocturneRebirth'' has [[spoiler:Khaos]], who Reviel considers a friend despite the former scheming against him and trying to destroy/recreate the world. Unfortunately, despite the party's efforts to get Khaos to pull a HeelFaceTurn, [[spoiler:he commits suicide]]. TheDragon, [[spoiler:Shylphiel]], states that [[spoiler:Khaos]] was likewise fond of Reviel, Luna, and Ristill despite his antagonism.

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* ''VideoGame/NocturneRebirth'' has [[spoiler:Khaos]], who Reviel considers a friend despite the former scheming against him and trying to destroy/recreate the world. Unfortunately, despite the party's efforts world, which is why he tries to get Khaos his friend to pull a HeelFaceTurn, [[spoiler:he commits suicide]]. HeelFaceTurn. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, the BigBad ends up committing suicide upon defeat because he was that desperate to enact his plan.]] TheDragon, [[spoiler:Shylphiel]], states that [[spoiler:Khaos]] was likewise fond of Reviel, Luna, and Ristill despite his antagonism.
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* ''VideoGame/NocturneRebirth'' has [[spoiler:Khaos]], who Reviel considers a friend despite the former scheming against him and trying to destroy/recreate the world. Unfortunately, despite the party's efforts to get Khaos to pull a HeelFaceTurn, [[spoiler:he commits suicide]]. TheDragon, [[spoiler:Shylphiel]], states that [[spoiler:Khaos]] was likewise fond of Reviel, Luna, and Ristill despite his antagonism.
16th Mar '17 10:39:07 PM SilverSupernova
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'': [[spoiler:Thancred, on of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, and the player's first ally is they started off in Ul'dah, was secretly possessed by the game's big bad, Lahabrea, an immortal aethereal being who possesses mortal hosts to bring about the resurrection of his dark god. It's implied that Thancred was under Lahabrea's control since long before the player met him.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'': [[spoiler:Thancred, on one of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, and the player's first ally is if they started off in Ul'dah, was secretly possessed by the game's big bad, Lahabrea, an immortal aethereal being who possesses mortal hosts to bring about the resurrection of his dark god. It's implied that Thancred was under Lahabrea's control since long before the player met him.]]
16th Mar '17 10:38:29 PM SilverSupernova
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'': [[spoiler:Thancred, on of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, and the player's first ally is they started off in Ul'dah, was secretly possessed by the game's big bad, Lahabrea, an immortal aethereal being who possesses mortal hosts to bring about the resurrection of his dark god. It's implied that Thancred was under Lahabrea's control since long before the player met him.]]
1st Mar '17 9:08:50 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Film/{{RIPD}}'' [[KevinBacon Hayes]] turns out to be a dead-o, and organizing the dead's plan to reconstruct the Staff of Jericho.

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* In ''Film/{{RIPD}}'' [[KevinBacon [[Creator/KevinBacon Hayes]] turns out to be a dead-o, and organizing the dead's plan to reconstruct the Staff of Jericho.
26th Feb '17 12:46:46 PM rcmerod52
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* Each of the Sworn Six of Paladia from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyBraveExvius'' is directly linked to the party in some way, but none more so than Veritas of the Dark, who is heavily hinted to be [[spoiler:Sir Raegan, Rain's father and Lasswell's adoptive father.]]
26th Feb '17 9:16:26 AM nombretomado
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* [[spoiler: Drew]] in the HannahMontana I Didn't Sign Up for This. She is quick to befriend Miley and dates Lilly but in the last chapter, she is revealed to be a murderous sociopath that cares about [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no one but herself.]]

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* [[spoiler: Drew]] in the HannahMontana I ''Series/HannahMontana'' fic "I Didn't Sign Up for This.This". She is quick to befriend Miley and dates Lilly but in the last chapter, she is revealed to be a murderous sociopath that cares about [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no one but herself.]]
7th Feb '17 10:00:12 AM starlight9
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* ''Literature/NightfallSeries'': Myra ends up developing a twisted, love-hate friendship with Prince Vladimir, to the point that he is even giving her tips on how to defeat him.
31st Jan '17 11:58:46 AM Gosicrystal
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* Old school Japanese PC/NES adventure game ''VisualNovel/ThePortopiaSerialMurderCase'' has this as TheReveal, as the titular killer turns out to be [[spoiler:Yasuhiro "Yasu" Mano, who is not only the main character's ''partner'' [[TheDogWasTheMastermind but also the single most unlikely suspect]] as he is with you ''throughout the entire game, executing the commands of the unseen protagonist''.]] The shock factor was so high that nowadays the phrase "[[spoiler:Yasu]] is the culprit" is something of a [[MemeticMutation meme]] amongst old fans. This twist is so well-known that it's been given [[ShoutOut Shout Outs]] in ''Manga/HaruhiChan'', Episode 7 of ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'', and Chapter 3 of ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa''.



%%* [[spoiler: Gary Smith]] from ''VideoGame/{{Bully}}'' pulled a serious [[FaceHeelTurn dick move]].

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%%* [[spoiler: Gary [[spoiler:Gary Smith]] from ''VideoGame/{{Bully}}'' pulled a serious [[FaceHeelTurn dick move]].



%%** And in ''Dawn Of The New World,'' [[spoiler:Emil and Richter]] without a doubt.
* ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' is a big fan of this. Since every case is composed by a murder committed by one of the people who you had to live for a little while, while most case end up showing the murderer as sympathetic in their motives, some times they do come off as cold blooded killers, such as [[spoiler: Celestia, who killed Hifumi and Ishimaru to get out of the school with the money offered by Monokuma]], [[spoiler: Mikan, who killed Ibuki and Hiyoko after regaining her memories as a member of Ultimate Despair]] and [[spoiler: Nagito, who not only essentially caused the first murder sets up his own death to be unsolvable, on a try to get everyone besides Chiaki killed.]] After [[spoiler:Celestia's]] execution, Makoto notes that since the culprit killed his friends, he can't pity her, but acknowledges once thinking of her as a friend.
** The [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 sequel]] takes it even further: The last case reveals that [[spoiler: Hinata and everybody else but Chiaki are the Remnants of Despair, a group of Ultimate Despair that served directly under Junko and are trying to destroy the world, though none of them have memories of that]].
** [[spoiler: Chiaki]] is a subversion, as [[spoiler: even though she was the traitor, she was working for the Future Foundation, who was trying to help them. During the aforementioned incident in which she is set up as Nagito's killer, she [[HeroicSacrifice does everything she can to ensure that she's convicted (and executed) for it]], even though she's unable to actually come out and reveal herself as the "traitor"]].
* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** We don't actually see the moment of revelation for [[spoiler: Phoenix Wright]], but [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] is the one who set him up to be disbarred and dishonored in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''. He then spends seven years pretending to be his dearest friend, and the only person who objected to his punishment until [[spoiler: Phoenix]] finally takes him down.
** And in ''Investigations'' [[spoiler: Shi-Long Lang]] is shocked to discover that [[spoiler: Byrne Faraday's killer and a key member of the smuggling ring is his assistant Shih-na.]]
** [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]] serves as one to [[spoiler: Byrne Faraday and Tyrell Badd, her accomplices in the Yatagarasu, when she betrays and kills Byrne, due to being TheMole for the smuggling ring the Yatagarasu is fighting]].
** [[ImpliedTrope Implied]] by Apollo in the last case of Dual Destinies, when he states that Prosecutor Blackquill seems torn after TheReveal of [[spoiler:[[TheMole Bobby Fulbright]]'s true identity, as the two of them were partners. The previous cases also give the feeling that there was a strong, if unusual, friendship between them]].

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%%** And in In ''Dawn Of The New World,'' [[spoiler:Emil and Richter]] without a doubt.
* ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' is a big fan of this. Since every case is composed by a murder committed by one of the people who you had to live for a little while, while most case end up showing the murderer as sympathetic in their motives, some times they do come off as cold blooded killers, such as [[spoiler: Celestia, who killed Hifumi and Ishimaru to get out of the school with the money offered by Monokuma]], [[spoiler: Mikan, who killed Ibuki and Hiyoko after regaining her memories as a member of Ultimate Despair]] and [[spoiler: Nagito, who not only essentially caused the first murder sets up his own death to be unsolvable, on a try to get everyone besides Chiaki killed.]] After [[spoiler:Celestia's]] execution, Makoto notes that since the culprit killed his friends, he can't pity her, but acknowledges once thinking of her as a friend.
** The [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 sequel]] takes it even further: The last case reveals that [[spoiler: Hinata and everybody else but Chiaki are the Remnants of Despair, a group of Ultimate Despair that served directly under Junko and are trying to destroy the world, though none of them have memories of that]].
** [[spoiler: Chiaki]] is a subversion, as [[spoiler: even though she was the traitor, she was working for the Future Foundation, who was trying to help them. During the aforementioned incident in which she is set up as Nagito's killer, she [[HeroicSacrifice does everything she can to ensure that she's convicted (and executed) for it]], even though she's unable to actually come out and reveal herself as the "traitor"]].
* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** We don't actually see the moment of revelation for [[spoiler: Phoenix Wright]], but [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] is the one who set him up to be disbarred and dishonored in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''. He then spends seven years pretending to be his dearest friend, and the only person who objected to his punishment until [[spoiler: Phoenix]] finally takes him down.
** And in ''Investigations'' [[spoiler: Shi-Long Lang]] is shocked to discover that [[spoiler: Byrne Faraday's killer and a key member of the smuggling ring is his assistant Shih-na.]]
** [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]] serves as one to [[spoiler: Byrne Faraday and Tyrell Badd, her accomplices in the Yatagarasu, when she betrays and kills Byrne, due to being TheMole for the smuggling ring the Yatagarasu is fighting]].
** [[ImpliedTrope Implied]] by Apollo in the last case of Dual Destinies, when he states that Prosecutor Blackquill seems torn after TheReveal of [[spoiler:[[TheMole Bobby Fulbright]]'s true identity, as the two of them were partners. The previous cases also give the feeling that there was a strong, if unusual, friendship between them]].
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%%** [[spoiler:Mathias]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLamentOfInnocence''. The series likes this trope: There's also [[spoiler:Albus]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia'' and [[spoiler:Zead]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaCurseOfDarkness''.
%%** And [[spoiler:Maxim]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaHarmonyOfDissonance''.

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%%** [[spoiler:Mathias]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLamentOfInnocence''. The series likes this trope: There's also ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaLamentOfInnocence Lament of Innocence]]''.
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[[spoiler:Albus]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia'' and ''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaOrderOfEcclesia Order of Ecclesia]]''.
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[[spoiler:Zead]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaCurseOfDarkness''.
''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaCurseOfDarkness Curse of Darkness]]''.
%%** And [[spoiler:Maxim]] in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaHarmonyOfDissonance''.''[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaHarmonyOfDissonance Harmony of Dissonance]]''.



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* ''Franchise/AceAttorney'':
** We don't actually see the moment of revelation for [[spoiler: Phoenix Wright]], but [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] is the one who set him up to be disbarred and dishonored in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney''. He then spends seven years pretending to be his dearest friend, and the only person who objected to his punishment until [[spoiler: Phoenix]] finally takes him down.
** In ''[[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Investigations]]'', [[spoiler: Shi-Long Lang]] is shocked to discover that [[spoiler:Byrne Faraday's killer and a key member of the smuggling ring is his assistant Shih-na.]]
** [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]] serves as one to [[spoiler:Byrne Faraday and Tyrell Badd, her accomplices in the Yatagarasu, when she betrays and kills Byrne, due to being TheMole for the smuggling ring the Yatagarasu is fighting]].
** [[ImpliedTrope Implied]] by Apollo in the last case of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', when he states that Prosecutor Blackquill seems torn after TheReveal of [[spoiler:[[TheMole Bobby Fulbright]]'s true identity, as the two of them were partners. The previous cases also give the feeling that there was a strong, if unusual, friendship between them]].
** Through cases 4 and 5 of ''Dual Destinies'', Apollo wonders if his friend and co-worker [[FieryRedhead Athena Cykes]] has killed his childhood friend Clay Terran. His lead is that he senses with his HyperAwareness that Athena is hiding something from him, which is rare for her. {{Subverted|Trope}}: the killer was an enemy to Athena as well and she was just another victim of the whole ordeal as she's [[FrameUp framed]] for Clay's murder (''and Athena's mother's murder too'').
* ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' is a big fan of this. Since every case is composed by a murder committed by one of the people who you had to live for a little while, while most case end up showing the murderer as sympathetic in their motives, some times they do come off as cold blooded killers, such as [[spoiler: Celestia, who killed Hifumi and Ishimaru to get out of the school with the money offered by Monokuma]], [[spoiler: Mikan, who killed Ibuki and Hiyoko after regaining her memories as a member of Ultimate Despair]] and [[spoiler: Nagito, who not only essentially caused the first murder sets up his own death to be unsolvable, on a try to get everyone besides Chiaki killed.]] After [[spoiler:Celestia's]] execution, Makoto notes that since the culprit killed his friends, he can't pity her, but acknowledges once thinking of her as a friend.
** The [[VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2 sequel]] takes it even further: The last case reveals that [[spoiler: Hinata and everybody else but Chiaki are the Remnants of Despair, a group of Ultimate Despair that served directly under Junko and are trying to destroy the world, though none of them have memories of that]].
** [[spoiler:Chiaki]] is a subversion, as [[spoiler: even though she was the traitor, she was working for the Future Foundation, who was trying to help them. During the aforementioned incident in which she is set up as Nagito's killer, she [[HeroicSacrifice does everything she can to ensure that she's convicted (and executed) for it]], even though she's unable to actually come out and reveal herself as the "traitor"]].
* In ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'', [[BigBad Zero]] has kidnapped nine people and is forcing them to play a DeadlyGame. What's Zero's identity? [[WellIntentionedExtremist Akane Kurashiki]], the protagonist's childhood friend who has been playing along with him through the game pretending to be an innocent victim of the ordeal.
* Old school Japanese PC/NES adventure game ''VisualNovel/ThePortopiaSerialMurderCase'' has this as TheReveal, as the titular killer turns out to be [[spoiler:Yasuhiro "Yasu" Mano, who is not only the main character's ''partner'' [[TheDogWasTheMastermind but also the single most unlikely suspect]] as he is with you ''throughout the entire game, executing the commands of the unseen protagonist''.]] The shock factor was so high that nowadays the phrase "[[spoiler:Yasu]] is the culprit" is something of a [[MemeticMutation meme]] amongst old fans. This twist is so well-known that it's been given [[ShoutOut Shout Outs]] in ''Manga/HaruhiChan'', Episode 7 of ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'', and Chapter 3 of ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa''.
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* [[spoiler: Subverted]] in ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily'''s "Cocoon Academy" arc. [[spoiler:Not only is it not Dedede's StartOfDarkness, but it turns out to be Meta Knight's origin story instead of Kirby's.]]

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* [[spoiler: Subverted]] [[spoiler:Subverted]] in ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily'''s "Cocoon Academy" arc. [[spoiler:Not only is it not Dedede's StartOfDarkness, but it turns out to be Meta Knight's origin story instead of Kirby's.]]
14th Jan '17 7:15:54 PM nombretomado
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* In the {{Lufia}} series, a common plot element is a certain character being [[spoiler: Erim, the Sinistral of Death. In VideoGame/LufiaAndTheFortressOfDoom it was Lufia herself, in VideoGame/LufiaIIRiseOfTheSinistrals it was Iris, and in VideoGame/LufiaTheLegendReturns it was Seena.]] Often, this character is not even aware of their true identity.

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* In the {{Lufia}} ''VideoGame/{{Lufia}}'' series, a common plot element is a certain character being [[spoiler: Erim, the Sinistral of Death. In VideoGame/LufiaAndTheFortressOfDoom ''VideoGame/LufiaAndTheFortressOfDoom'' it was Lufia herself, in VideoGame/LufiaIIRiseOfTheSinistrals ''VideoGame/LufiaIIRiseOfTheSinistrals'' it was Iris, and in VideoGame/LufiaTheLegendReturns ''VideoGame/LufiaTheLegendReturns'' it was Seena.]] Often, this character is not even aware of their true identity.
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