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6th Mar '17 2:19:48 AM LondonKdS
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See also BigBadDuumvirate for two (or more) Big Bads working together ([[EvilVsEvil or not]]). Sometimes a Big Bad will get their start as a servant to another villain -- if that's the case, they're a DragonAscendant. If the character who fills the role of Big Bad in most meaningful ways is nominally subordinate to someone else (someone significantly less menacing by comparison), they are a DragonInChief. If the story has many Big Bads at once who ''don't'' work together, see BigBadEnsemble. TheBigBadShuffle occurs when there are multiple candidates for the Big Bad position. If the Big Bad doesn't start out as bad but develops over the course of the story, it's BigBadSlippage.

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See also BigBadDuumvirate for two (or more) Big Bads working together ([[EvilVsEvil or not]]). Sometimes a Big Bad will get their start as a servant to another villain -- if that's the case, they're a DragonAscendant. If the character who fills the role of Big Bad in most meaningful ways is nominally subordinate to someone else (someone significantly less menacing by comparison), they are a DragonInChief. If the story has many Big Bads at once who ''don't'' work together, see BigBadEnsemble. TheBigBadShuffle occurs when there are multiple candidates for the Big Bad position. If the Big Bad doesn't start out as bad but develops over the course of the story, it's BigBadSlippage.
BigBadSlippage. If the Big Bad of one section of a work doesn't die on being defeated and stays around as a character in a different plot role (reformed or not), that's ExBigBad.
8th Jan '17 6:33:51 PM DustSnitch
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* ''Theatre/TheCrucible'': [[ManipulativeBastard Abigail Williams]], [[HangingJudge Deputy Governor Thomas Danforth]] [[BigBadEnsemble and]] [[AristocratsAreEvil Thomas Putnam]]

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* ''Theatre/TheCrucible'': [[ManipulativeBastard Abigail Williams]], [[HangingJudge Deputy Governor Thomas Danforth]] [[BigBadEnsemble and]] [[AristocratsAreEvil Thomas Putnam]]Williams]] manipulates the girls of Salem into obeying her and gets them all to help accuse others of witchcraft, condemning innocent men and women to imprisonment and death in order to escape punishment for her own evils.



* ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'': [[TheUsurper Claudius]]
* ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'': [[WickedWitch The Witch]] in the first act and [[AvengingTheVillain the Giantess]] in the second, [[spoiler: and a big part of the heroes' character arc is realizing neither is exactly evil]].
* ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}'': [[VillainProtagonist Macbeth himself]].
* ''Theatre/{{Othello}}'': [[ManipulativeBastard Iago]]

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'': [[TheUsurper Claudius]]
Claudius usurped the throne that rightfully belongs to Prince Hamlet, who spends the play plotting to kill Claudius.
* ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'': [[WickedWitch The Witch]] Subverted, as there is no official main villain in the first act show. The Witch might come off as the villain at first, but as the show progresses, we learn that her actions are very much justifiable, and [[AvengingTheVillain eventually, she becomes extremely sympathetic ([[spoiler: mainly after Rapunzel's death]]). The Giantess, while being a major antagonistic force, simply wanted justice for the Giantess]] in death of her husband, and the second, [[spoiler: chaos and a big part of the heroes' death that she had caused are often portrayed as accidents (considering that she was near sighted and had lost her glasses). The only character arc to be truly evil and despicable is realizing neither is exactly evil]].
the Wolf, and even he's given a hint of sympathetic light (''"Ask a wolf's mother!"'').
* ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}'': [[VillainProtagonist Macbeth himself]].
himself]] kills the good king Duncan and ruins Scotland with his corrupt reign, acting as the main villain despite being the protagonist of the story.
* ''Theatre/{{Othello}}'': [[ManipulativeBastard Iago]]Iago]] misleads every character in the play so he can ruin the life of the title character
27th Dec '16 10:33:37 AM KingBowser9001
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A Big Bad is not a catch-all term for the biggest, ugliest or even primary villain of any given story. The badass leader of the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad outlaw gang]] that causes the most personal trouble is ''not'' the Big Bad. The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive railroad tycoon]] who turns out to be ''using'' the gang as muscle is the Big Bad. TheManBehindTheMan is very common for this trope, leaving the reveal of the big bad as TheChessmaster behind it all and proving themselves far more clever and resourceful than the VillainOfTheWeek. Sometimes the BigBad is the grand enemy of the entire story as an OverarchingVillain. At other times, the Big Bad is an ArcVillain who causes trouble for a period of time only to be replaced by another Big Bad with ambitious plans.

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A Big Bad This trope is not a catch-all term for the biggest, ugliest or even primary villain of any given story. The badass leader of the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad outlaw gang]] that causes the most personal trouble is TheHeavy, ''not'' the Big Bad. The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive railroad tycoon]] who turns out to be ''using'' the gang as muscle is the Big Bad. TheManBehindTheMan is very common for this trope, leaving the reveal of the big bad as TheChessmaster behind it all and proving themselves far more clever and resourceful than the VillainOfTheWeek. Sometimes the BigBad is the grand enemy of the entire story as an OverarchingVillain. At other times, the Big Bad is an ArcVillain who causes trouble for a period of time only to be replaced by another Big Bad with ambitious plans.



The term "Big Bad" was popularized in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. It was characteristic of Buffy's Big Bads for their identity or nature, or even the fact that they are the Big Bad at all, to remain unclear for considerable time. Occasionally, characters would even refer to themselves as "the Big Bad", whether or not they were; this is a BigBadWannabe (although Spike was the character to do this the most, and he was part of the BigBadDuumvirate of Season 2 along with Drusilla until Angelus showed up). The structure of Buffy placed the Big Bad as being crucial to the HalfArcSeason, half the episodes are {{filler}} dealing with unrelated enemies while the other half involved the ongoing MythArc with the BigBad. Each season can easily be defined by who the Big Bad was.

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The term "Big Bad" was popularized in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. It was characteristic of Buffy's Big Bads for their identity or nature, or even the fact that they are the Big Bad at all, to remain unclear for considerable time. Occasionally, characters would even refer to themselves as "the Big Bad", whether Bad". Whether or not they were; were, though, this is a BigBadWannabe (although Spike was the character to do this the most, and he was part of the BigBadDuumvirate of Season 2 along with Drusilla until Angelus showed up).BigBadWannabe. The structure of Buffy placed the Big Bad as being crucial to the HalfArcSeason, half the episodes are {{filler}} dealing with unrelated enemies while the other half involved the ongoing MythArc with the BigBad. Each season can easily be defined by who the Big Bad was.
30th Nov '16 7:52:21 PM HamburgerTime
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* ''Theatre/{{Annie}}'': [[OutlawCouple Daniel "Rooster" Hannigan and Lily St. Regis]]
30th Oct '16 9:53:19 PM HamburgerTime
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* ''Theatre/{{Gypsy}}'': "[[StageMom Mama]]" [[VillainProtagonist Rose Hovick]]




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* ''Theatre/WestSideStory'': [[GangBangers Riff Lorton and Bernardo Nunez]], [[BigBadEnsemble opposed to one another]]. [[spoiler: Both are killed in the Act One Finale, and Bernardo's DragonAscendant Chino Martin takes over as main antagonist]].
27th Oct '16 10:15:02 PM DustSnitch
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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': Aaron Burr, who notably serves as both the {{Deuteragonist}} and an InteractiveNarrator.



* ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'': [[WickedWitch The Witch]] in the first act and [[AvengingTheVillain the Giantess]] in the second, [[spoiler: and a big part of the heroes' character arc is realizing [[VillainHasAPoint neither is exactly evil]]]].

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* ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'': [[WickedWitch The Witch]] in the first act and [[AvengingTheVillain the Giantess]] in the second, [[spoiler: and a big part of the heroes' character arc is realizing [[VillainHasAPoint neither is exactly evil]]]].evil]].
26th Oct '16 8:57:32 PM HamburgerTime
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* ''Theatre/IntoTheWoods'': [[WickedWitch The Witch]] in the first act and [[AvengingTheVillain the Giantess]] in the second, [[spoiler: and a big part of the heroes' character arc is realizing [[VillainHasAPoint neither is exactly evil]]]].
15th Sep '16 10:36:55 PM Morgenthaler
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A Big Bad is not a catch-all term for the biggest, ugliest or even primary villain of any given story. The {{Badass}} leader of the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad outlaw gang]] that causes the most personal trouble is ''not'' the Big Bad. The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive railroad tycoon]] who turns out to be ''using'' the gang as muscle is the Big Bad. TheManBehindTheMan is very common for this trope, leaving the reveal of the big bad as TheChessmaster behind it all and proving themselves far more clever and resourceful than the VillainOfTheWeek. Sometimes the BigBad is the grand enemy of the entire story as an OverarchingVillain. At other times, the Big Bad is an ArcVillain who causes trouble for a period of time only to be replaced by another Big Bad with ambitious plans.

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A Big Bad is not a catch-all term for the biggest, ugliest or even primary villain of any given story. The {{Badass}} badass leader of the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad outlaw gang]] that causes the most personal trouble is ''not'' the Big Bad. The [[CorruptCorporateExecutive railroad tycoon]] who turns out to be ''using'' the gang as muscle is the Big Bad. TheManBehindTheMan is very common for this trope, leaving the reveal of the big bad as TheChessmaster behind it all and proving themselves far more clever and resourceful than the VillainOfTheWeek. Sometimes the BigBad is the grand enemy of the entire story as an OverarchingVillain. At other times, the Big Bad is an ArcVillain who causes trouble for a period of time only to be replaced by another Big Bad with ambitious plans.
13th Aug '16 11:00:28 AM DustSnitch
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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': [[EvilIsHammy King George III]], with {{Anti Villain}}s [[ThenLetMeBeEvil Aaron Burr]] and [[InsufferableGenius Thomas Jefferson]] as TheHeavy.

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': [[EvilIsHammy King George III]], with {{Anti Villain}}s [[ThenLetMeBeEvil Aaron Burr]] Burr, who notably serves as both the {{Deuteragonist}} and [[InsufferableGenius Thomas Jefferson]] as TheHeavy.an InteractiveNarrator.
8th Aug '16 5:47:22 PM HamburgerTime
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* ''Theatre/TheCrucible'': [[ManipulativeBastard Abigail Williams]]

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* ''Theatre/TheCrucible'': [[ManipulativeBastard Abigail Williams]]Williams]], [[HangingJudge Deputy Governor Thomas Danforth]] [[BigBadEnsemble and]] [[AristocratsAreEvil Thomas Putnam]]



* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': [[EvilIsHammy King George III]], with {{Anti Villain}}s [[ThenLetMeBeEvil Aaron Burr]] and [[InsufferableGenius Thomas Jefferson]] as TheHeavy.



* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'': [[HangingJudge Judge Turpin]]

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* ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'': [[HangingJudge Judge Turpin]]Turpin]] [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation or]] [[LadyMacbeth Mrs. Nellie Lovett]]
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