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8th Jan '17 6:26:20 PM MGD107
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* In ''Series/{{Powers}}'' the original purpose of Kaotic Chic was to raise awareness of how reckless Powers could be. Unfortunately they [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ended up proving]] to be [[KnightTemplar just as if not more dangerous.]]

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* In ''Series/{{Powers}}'' the original purpose of Kaotic Chic was to raise awareness of how reckless Powers could be. Unfortunately they [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ended up proving]] to be [[KnightTemplar just as as, if not more more, dangerous.]]
8th Jan '17 6:20:37 PM MGD107
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8th Jan '17 6:20:35 PM MGD107
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* In ''Series/{{Powers}}'' the original purpose of Kaotic Chic was to raise awareness of how reckless Powers could be.

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* In ''Series/{{Powers}}'' the original purpose of Kaotic Chic was to raise awareness of how reckless Powers could be. Unfortunately they [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope ended up proving]] to be [[KnightTemplar just as if not more dangerous.]]
8th Jan '17 6:16:30 PM MGD107
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** There's regular Joes and politicians who think that the "supermen" like the Avengers should not be allowed to act on their own (one important reason being their collateral damage). These viewpoints get explored in ''Film/IronMan2'' and are the main driving factor behind the plot from ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.

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** There's regular Joes and politicians who think that the "supermen" like the Avengers should not be allowed to act on their own (one important reason being their collateral damage). These viewpoints get explored in ''Film/IronMan2'' and are the main driving factor behind the plot from Accords in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
29th Dec '16 7:42:57 AM Tron80
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* In ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' story ''ComicBook/SupergirlCosmicAdventuresInTheEightGrade'' Lena hates super-powered beings. Linda -alias Supergirl- tries to convince her that a person can have powers and not being a jerk. Unfortunately, their schoolmates are determined to prove Linda ''wrong''.
-->'''Linda:''' Come on... It's not like everyone with super powers is a complete jerk... [...] Okay... See... He's not everybody. Some people are jerks no matter what. But that doesn't mean that we're suddenly going to be treated differently just because we don't have super powers.
18th Dec '16 10:21:09 AM Sapphirea2
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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', it's revealed in "The Name of the Doctor" that the title of "The Doctor" is his self-imposed promise ''never'' to succumb to this type of behavior. His turns as the "[[AGodAmI Time Lord Victorious]]" in "The Waters of Mars", [[spoiler: the [[{{UnPerson}} War Doctor]]]] of "The Name of the Doctor" and the 50th anniversary special "The Day of the Doctor", and [[spoiler: the apocalyptic "Hybrid"]] in "Hell Bent" are examples of what happens when he breaks that promise, though in all cases he is brought back to his best self. His promise is:
--> '''The Doctor:''' Never cruel or cowardly. Never give up. Never give in.
** "Hell Bent" has him revise the promise as [[spoiler: he succumbs to Mind Rape]]: "Never be cruel and never be cowardly. And if you ever are, always make amends."

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* In ''Series/DoctorWho'', it's revealed in "The Name of the Doctor" that the title of "The Doctor" is his self-imposed promise ''never'' to succumb to this type of behavior. His turns as the "[[AGodAmI Time Lord Victorious]]" in "The Waters of Mars", [[spoiler: the [[{{UnPerson}} War Doctor]]]] of "The Name of the Doctor" and the 50th anniversary special "The Day of the Doctor", and [[spoiler: the apocalyptic "Hybrid"]] in "Hell Bent" are examples of what happens when he breaks that promise, though in all cases he is brought back behavior, but rather to his best self. His promise is:
--> '''The Doctor:''' Never
be "Never cruel or cowardly. Never give up. Never give in. \n" (As he puts it in the next story, "The Day of the Doctor".) In several stories, he does temporarily break that promise, and ''always'' when he has no companion serving as a MoralityPet. He always comes back to his best self, but usually at a cost.
** The Tenth Doctor's turn as the "[[AGodAmI Time Lord Victorious]]" in "The Waters of Mars" has him attempt to change a fixed moment in time -- one that's crucial to the history of humanity in the larger universe -- to save doomed lives, justifying it on the basis of being the LastOfHisKind. The problem is that changing a fixed moment threatens the universe with a RealityBreakingParadox, and in the end that's only prevented via [[spoiler: a woman's suicide]]. The resultant changes his actions manage to make are all for the worse, and he doesn't fully redeem himself until the next story, "The End of Time"...which is also his last not counting "The Day of the Doctor", which is set earlier in his timeline.
** [[spoiler: The [[{{UnPerson}} War Doctor]]]] of "The Name of the Doctor" and the 50th anniversary special "The Day of the Doctor" was an extended example of this happening to him. Happily, the ending of the latter reveals that [[spoiler: he and his other lives later managed to save Gallifrey rather than destroy it]].
** The Series 9 finale
"Hell Bent" has him revise the promise as Twelfth Doctor become TheUnfettered WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in the wake of captivity, torture, and [[spoiler: the death of his beloved companion Clara]], the spoilered event being another fixed moment in time that he succumbs attempts to Mind Rape]]: undo. Perhaps because he follows the "Never give up. Never give in" part of his credo a little '''too''' well this time, in the climax he revises it to "Never be cruel and never be cowardly. And if you ever are, always make amends."amends" as he returns to his best self with a little help from [[spoiler: Mind Rape]].
13th Dec '16 6:42:49 AM Tron80
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** Ironically inverted in ''ComicBook/TheNail''. In an alternate universe, Clark Kent never becomes Superman. This means that there's no moral lighthouse to make the world realize that metahumans and superheroes aren't inherently dangerous, with the result that metahumans are viciously discriminated against and the Justice League are despised and distrusted. Funny how things work out, huh?



* ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' is set in a future of Franchise/TheDCU wherein the next generation of superhumans took their cue from the {{Nineties Anti Hero}}es rather than [[GoodIsOldFashioned 'outdated' heroes]] like Franchise/{{Superman}} (who retired in disillusionment [[spoiler: after one of them got off scot-free after murdering the Joker]]), with the result that the 'heroes' and 'villains' are more interested in recklessly kicking the tar out of each other than protecting the innocent. When {{The Cape}}s ''do'' make a reappearance, their [[WellIntentionedExtremist determination to rein in their more reckless brethren]] sees them quickly turn into {{Knight Templar}}s. Unlike many of these universes, it's suggested that this one is at least partially the public's fault, as they overwhelmingly rejected the ideals of the old-fashioned heroes and placed their trust in the more 'modern' ones, only to learn too late what this meant.
-->'''Magog:''' They chose the one who'd kill over the one who wouldn't. And now they're all dead.
** Never mind that the final act of the story features ''[[spoiler: Superman]]'' going into a blind rage at the governing powers. Just ''imagine'' that guy deciding to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against ''society''. (Well, [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} We don't need to...]]) Fortunately, he gets talked down by someone who appeals to his older ways, but it's a close thing there.

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* ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' ''ComicBook/KingdomCome''
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is set in a future of Franchise/TheDCU wherein the next generation of superhumans took their cue from the {{Nineties Anti Hero}}es rather than [[GoodIsOldFashioned 'outdated' heroes]] like Franchise/{{Superman}} (who retired in disillusionment [[spoiler: after one of them got off scot-free after murdering the Joker]]), with the result that the 'heroes' and 'villains' are more interested in recklessly kicking the tar out of each other than protecting the innocent. When {{The Cape}}s ''do'' make a reappearance, their [[WellIntentionedExtremist determination to rein in their more reckless brethren]] sees them quickly turn into {{Knight Templar}}s. Unlike many of these universes, it's suggested that this one is at least partially the public's fault, as they overwhelmingly rejected the ideals of the old-fashioned heroes and placed their trust in the more 'modern' ones, only to learn too late what this meant.
-->'''Magog:''' --->'''Magog:''' They chose the one who'd kill over the one who wouldn't. And now they're all dead.
** Never mind that the final act of the story features ''[[spoiler: Superman]]'' going into a blind rage at the governing powers. Just ''imagine'' that guy deciding to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge against ''society''. (Well, [[ComicBook/{{Irredeemable}} We don't need to...]]) Fortunately, he gets talked down by someone who appeals to his older ways, but it's a close thing there.



* Creator/DCComics has ''ComicBook/TheSpectre'', who is a murderous PayEvilUntoEvil-preaching RealityWarper with a self-proclaimed OmniscientMoralityLicense. Even when he's bound to a human soul, which is supposed to put some restraints on him, he can be incredibly destructive. As in, wiping out two entire countries down to the last newborn child destructive.
** Since the Spectre is literally the Wrath of God incarnate, his OmniscientMoralityLicense is not really "self-proclaimed". This, of course, may only make him even ''more'' terrifying, when it hits you that God Himself is behind him, and that Spectre (at full power, which he isn't always at) is as close to genuinely [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] as is possible for anyone who isn't God to be. And the Spectre sometimes doesn't even ''want'' to do some of the things he does, but he's compelled to because that's his job. The Spectre is far, far more than superhuman, and even calling him a Force of Nature wouldn't do him justice. If The Spectre is after you, there may be nothing in the multiverse that will stop him; also, since he usually targets bad or wicked people, it can also mean that you will probably be going to {{Hell}} after he's conjured up a supernatural CruelAndUnusualDeath to gruesomely kill you off. Have a nice day.
* Ironically inverted in ''ComicBook/TheNail''. In an alternate universe, Clark Kent never becomes Superman. This means that there's no moral lighthouse to make the world realize that metahumans and superheroes aren't inherently dangerous, with the result that metahumans are viciously discriminated against and the Justice League are despised and distrusted. Funny how things work out, huh?
13th Dec '16 6:13:27 AM Tron80
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* Though the trope's name instantly makes you think of him, Franchise/{{Superman}} thankfully [[AvertedTrope averts this trope]]. Unless it's an ''{{Elseworld}}s'' story which has this trope as its point, Superman is ([[SuperDickery almost]]) always as responsible as he can be with his powers and always lets people know that he's here to serve them, not the other way around. But again, as mentioned, ''Elseworlds'' stories LOVE to play with Superman this way. Most recently, Alternate!Superman in ''ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', who's a totalitarian ruler after the death of Alternate!Lois Lane.

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}:
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Though the trope's name instantly makes you think of him, Franchise/{{Superman}} thankfully [[AvertedTrope averts this trope]]. trope]].
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Unless it's an ''{{Elseworld}}s'' story which has this trope as its point, Superman is ([[SuperDickery almost]]) always as responsible as he can be with his powers and always lets people know that he's here to serve them, not the other way around. But again, as mentioned, ''Elseworlds'' stories LOVE to play with Superman this way. Most recently, Alternate!Superman in ''ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', who's a totalitarian ruler after the death of Alternate!Lois Lane.



** At least one ''Superman'' story has inverted this by suggesting that ''anyone'' who gained Superman's powers would gain such a heightened sense of what it means to be alive and how living beings think, work and feel that it would be almost impossible ''not'' to become an altruist like Superman.

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** At least one ''Superman'' story ''Comicbook/AllStarSuperman'' has inverted this by suggesting that ''anyone'' who gained Superman's powers would gain such a heightened sense of what it means to be alive and how living beings think, work and feel that it would be almost impossible ''not'' to become an altruist like Superman. Superman.
** In ''Comicbook/KryptoniteNevermore'' several characters argue the issue at several points:
*** Morgan Edge is not happy about Superman being immune to Kryptonite because he thinks absolute power corrupts absolutely.
---->'''Lois:''' What've you got against Superman, sir?\\
'''Morgan:''' The same thing I'd have against anyone supremely powerful... I don't trust anyone who can't be stopped! A wise man once said that "power corrupts... and absolute power corrupts absolutely!" How do we know Superman will be an exception?
*** Later Superman thinks he doesn't buy his reasoning:
---->'''Superman:''' Morgan Edge was wrong! Power isn't corrupting... It's freeing me -- to do unlimited good!
*** Later Superman recovers his powers thanks to Wonder Woman's mentor I-Ching... but he hasn't recovered from a brain injury, and he becomes cocky, arrogant, impulsive and short-tempered. Ching fears that Superman goes berserker unless they help him.
*** Finally, after having a horrible vision in which he accidentally destroys the planet, Superman does not want to get his full powers back.
---->'''Ching:''' Perhaps I can transfer the powers you took from Superman back to him!\\
'''Superman:''' No! I've seen the dangers having too much power... I am human -- I can make mistakes!
26th Nov '16 11:50:13 PM Wooboo
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** And in ''Film/SuicideSquad'', this fear of what a Superman-like entity could do if he decided to act against the world (or at least the interests of the U.S Government) is the driving force behind the creation of the eponymous squad of [[BoxedCrook supervillains pressed into government service.]]
28th Oct '16 2:49:23 PM StClair
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* The original ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'''s limited series has this as the central theme, with the superheroes taking over their world's United States after it's trashed an alien mind-control menace, [[KnightTemplar for the "greater good", of course.]] They do in fact succeed in eliminating poverty, war, and, though a (mostly) voluntary brain-modification unit, reforming most of the world's criminals. However, their own personal failings, rising team death count, and totalitarian underpinnings leave their attempt a failure, case in point being how their CaptainErsatz for ComicBook/GreenArrow {{brainwashed}} their CaptainErsatz for ComicBook/BlackCanary to make sure she is always in love with him. He quickly regrets this but has to live with the consequences until he is discovered and expelled from the team.

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* The original ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'''s limited series has this as the central theme, with the superheroes taking over their world's United States after it's trashed an alien mind-control menace, [[KnightTemplar for the "greater good", of course.]] They do in fact succeed in eliminating poverty, war, and, though a (mostly) voluntary brain-modification unit, reforming most of the world's criminals. However, their own personal failings, rising team death count, and totalitarian underpinnings leave their attempt a failure, case in point being how their CaptainErsatz for ComicBook/GreenArrow not-ComicBook/GreenArrow {{brainwashed}} their CaptainErsatz for ComicBook/BlackCanary not-ComicBook/BlackCanary to make sure she is always in love with him. He quickly regrets this but has to live with the consequences until he is discovered and expelled from the team.
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