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2nd Apr '16 3:37:29 PM YgothanEru
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* The Business Plot, a reported conspiracy that intended to overthrow the American government in 1933 and install a fascist dictatorship, supposedly fell victim to this when the conspirators chose Marine Major General [[EmbarrassingFirstName Smedley]] Darlington Butler to lead the coup. Butler instead chose to reveal the plot to the government, which fairly quickly brought an end to the conspiracy. They probably picked him because he was the commanding officer of the force that was ordered to crack down on the Bonus Army, a group of impoverished UsefulNotes/WW1 veterans who were rendered homeless and jobless by the Great Depression, camped out on the national mall in Washington DC to request that the government pay them their support bonuses a bit earlier than initially agreed to, citing the hardship of the Great Depression as the reason they needed help more immediately. The particularly ''brutal'' crackdown against the bonus army was cited as a major factor sealing the fate of Herbert Hoover's reputation, but was part of what '''endeared''' Hoover to the conspirators of the Business Plot. They probably figured since Butler led that crackdown, he would be a natural choice for their plans. Fortunately for the nation, they figured wrongly. Then agian, maybe Butler was just smart enough to realize he wouldn't get away with it. Everyone [[IncrediblyLamePun already knows]] that TheButlerDidIt.

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* The Business Plot, a reported conspiracy that intended to overthrow the American government in 1933 and install a fascist dictatorship, supposedly fell victim to this when the conspirators chose Marine Major General [[EmbarrassingFirstName Smedley]] Darlington Butler to lead the coup. Butler instead chose to reveal the plot to the government, which fairly quickly brought an end to the conspiracy. They probably picked him because he was the commanding officer of the force that was ordered to crack down on the Bonus Army, a group of impoverished UsefulNotes/WW1 veterans who were rendered homeless and jobless by the Great Depression, camped out on the national mall in Washington DC to request that the government pay them their support bonuses a bit earlier than initially agreed to, citing the hardship of the Great Depression as the reason they needed help more immediately. The particularly ''brutal'' crackdown against the bonus army was cited as a major factor sealing the fate of Herbert Hoover's reputation, but was part of what '''endeared''' Hoover to the conspirators of the Business Plot. They probably figured since Butler led that crackdown, he would be a natural choice for their plans. Fortunately for the nation, they figured wrongly. Then agian, again, maybe Butler was just smart enough to realize he wouldn't get away with it. Everyone [[IncrediblyLamePun already knows]] that TheButlerDidIt.
22nd Mar '16 4:17:01 AM lavashipper
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* Komaeda in "VideoGame/SuperDanganRonpa2". He's chaotic, unpredictable, suicidal, and is absolutely obsessed with his vision of hope. But he's honest.
17th Mar '16 8:19:07 AM ObsidianFire
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* The Business Plot, a reported conspiracy that intended to overthrow the American government in 1933 and install a fascist dictatorship, supposedly fell victim to this when the conspirators chose Marine Major General [[EmbarrassingFirstName Smedley]] Darlington Butler to lead the coup. Butler instead chose to reveal the plot to the government, which fairly quickly brought an end to the conspiracy. They probably picked him because he was the commanding officer of the force that was ordered to crack down on the Bonus Army, a group of impoverished UsefulNotes/WW1 veterans who were rendered homeless and jobless by the Great Depression, camped out on the national mall in Washington DC to request that the government pay them their support bonuses a bit earlier than initially agreed to, citing the hardship of the Great Depression as the reason they needed help more immediately. The particularly ''brutal'' crackdown against the bonus army was cited as a major factor sealing the fate of Herbert Hoover's reputation, but was part of what '''endeared''' Hoover to the conspirators of the Business Plot. They probably figured since Butler led that crackdown, he would be a natural choice for their plans. Fortunately for the nation, they figured wrongly. Then agian, maybe Butler was just GenreSavvy enough to realize he wouldn't get away with it. Everyone [[IncrediblyLamePun already knows]] that TheButlerDidIt.

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* The Business Plot, a reported conspiracy that intended to overthrow the American government in 1933 and install a fascist dictatorship, supposedly fell victim to this when the conspirators chose Marine Major General [[EmbarrassingFirstName Smedley]] Darlington Butler to lead the coup. Butler instead chose to reveal the plot to the government, which fairly quickly brought an end to the conspiracy. They probably picked him because he was the commanding officer of the force that was ordered to crack down on the Bonus Army, a group of impoverished UsefulNotes/WW1 veterans who were rendered homeless and jobless by the Great Depression, camped out on the national mall in Washington DC to request that the government pay them their support bonuses a bit earlier than initially agreed to, citing the hardship of the Great Depression as the reason they needed help more immediately. The particularly ''brutal'' crackdown against the bonus army was cited as a major factor sealing the fate of Herbert Hoover's reputation, but was part of what '''endeared''' Hoover to the conspirators of the Business Plot. They probably figured since Butler led that crackdown, he would be a natural choice for their plans. Fortunately for the nation, they figured wrongly. Then agian, maybe Butler was just GenreSavvy smart enough to realize he wouldn't get away with it. Everyone [[IncrediblyLamePun already knows]] that TheButlerDidIt.



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23rd Feb '16 6:04:25 AM Anddrix
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* Isabelle's mother says this about [[CannotTellALie the Seelies]] in the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "Of Men and Angel":

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* Isabelle's mother says this about [[CannotTellALie the Seelies]] in the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "Of Men and Angel":Angels":
18th Feb '16 1:03:59 PM Anddrix
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* Isabelle's mother says this about [[CannotTellALie the Seelies]] in the ''Series/{{Shadowhunters}}'' episode "Of Men and Angel":
-->'''Maryse:''' Never trust a species who cannot lie. They'll find much more inventive ways to stab you in the back.
23rd Jan '16 9:29:49 PM nombretomado
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* Meursault in ''TheStranger''. It never occurs to him to lie, even to save his own life. Why would his life need saving? Oh, because he's facing the death penalty for having shot a man. For no reason. Unless "the sun was bright" counts as a reason.

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* Meursault in ''TheStranger''.''Literature/TheStranger''. It never occurs to him to lie, even to save his own life. Why would his life need saving? Oh, because he's facing the death penalty for having shot a man. For no reason. Unless "the sun was bright" counts as a reason.
17th Jan '16 9:41:11 PM azul120
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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', the nobleman Haverness is known for his honesty. He's the last one who would be told about a revolution against the king, as he takes his oaths so seriously that he'd be sure to betray all the plans immediately. However, the king is stupid enough to not take into account that he himself has accepted responsibility for the protection of the nobles who have sworn allegiance to him. And Haverness' loyalty is not only to the king, but also to the people under ''his'' protection. [[spoiler:A revolution takes place, with the justification of ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst.]]

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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', the nobleman Haverness is known for his honesty. He's the last one who would be told about a revolution against the king, as he takes his oaths so seriously that he'd be sure to betray all the plans immediately. However, the king is stupid enough to not take into account that he himself has accepted responsibility for the protection of the nobles who have sworn allegiance to him. And Haverness' loyalty is not only to the king, but also to the people under ''his'' protection. [[spoiler:A revolution takes place, with the justification of ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst.]]ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst]]
17th Jan '16 9:39:36 PM azul120
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* More than once, {{Franchise/Batman}} has had to keep facts from, and even ''lie'' to Superman or the other members of the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, because he believes they are too idealistic to do what sometimes needs to be done. Notice that he never looks down on them for being that way (DependingOnTheWriter.) More often than not, he values their idealism, but since he sees himself as already damaged goods, he combines SilentScapegoat, BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork, and IDidWhatIHadToDo

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* More than once, {{Franchise/Batman}} Franchise/{{Batman}} has had to keep facts from, and even ''lie'' to Superman or the other members of the Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}, League|OfAmerica}}, because he believes they are too idealistic to do what sometimes needs to be done. Notice that he never looks down on them for being that way (DependingOnTheWriter.) (DependingOnTheWriter). More often than not, he values their idealism, but since he sees himself as already damaged goods, he combines SilentScapegoat, BadGuysDoTheDirtyWork, and IDidWhatIHadToDoIDidWhatIHadToDo.



** It comes back to bite him when she trades him for Will. When Barbossa objects because Jack is a Pirate Lord, she simply responds, "King."

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** It comes back to bite him when she trades him for Will. When Barbossa objects because Jack is a Pirate Lord, she simply responds, "King.""King".









* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', the nobleman Haverness is known for his honesty. He's the last one who would be told about a revolution against the king, as he takes his oaths so seriously that he'd be sure to betray all the plans immediately. However, the king is stupid enough to not take into account that he himself has accepted responsibility for the protection of the nobles who have sworn allegiance to him. And Haverness' loyalty is not only to the king, but also to the people under ''his'' protection. [[spoiler: A revolution takes place, with the justification of ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst]]

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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', the nobleman Haverness is known for his honesty. He's the last one who would be told about a revolution against the king, as he takes his oaths so seriously that he'd be sure to betray all the plans immediately. However, the king is stupid enough to not take into account that he himself has accepted responsibility for the protection of the nobles who have sworn allegiance to him. And Haverness' loyalty is not only to the king, but also to the people under ''his'' protection. [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A revolution takes place, with the justification of ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst]]ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst.]]



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24th Sep '15 1:32:18 AM MechWarrior
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* Suzaku of ''CodeGeass'' - because of his idealism, he acquires a major case of ChronicBackstabbingDisorder.

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* Suzaku of ''CodeGeass'' ''Anime/CodeGeass'' - because of his idealism, he acquires a major case of ChronicBackstabbingDisorder.



* Tenma from ''Anime/{{Monster}}'' is deemed untrustworthy by his director for choosing to operate on the patient who came first, as opposed to the patient off of whom he'd profit more.
* Nao Kanzaki starts the ''LiarGame'' described accurately as "Foolishly Honest," meaning she expects everyone else to be just as honest as she is by nature. As the Game progresses however, Nao begins to prove herself perfectly capable of deception, and manages several [[Awesome/AnimeAndManga Crowning Moments of Awesome]] through it. In fact, her lies have frequently ''relied'' on people being aware of her honest nature, since no one stops to think ''she'' might be lying.
* Tamiya attempts to wrest back control of the LitchiHikariClub from Zeera once the group approaches the MoralEventHorizon. Very fittingly, his epithet is "Bullet of Truth" and he is often shown as the most obviously upstanding member of the nine.
* [[spoiler:Hakuryuu]] from ''Manga/MagiLabyrinthOfMagic'' is very honorable, started the story as very naive and his Djinn describes him as "painfully honest". He's also a KnightTemplar with BlackAndWhiteInsanity who only cares for his last remaining sibling and it's unable to let his hatred behind.

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* Tenma from ''Anime/{{Monster}}'' ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' is deemed untrustworthy by his director for choosing to operate on the patient who came first, as opposed to the patient off of whom he'd profit more.
* Nao Kanzaki starts the ''LiarGame'' ''Manga/LiarGame'' described accurately as "Foolishly Honest," meaning she expects everyone else to be just as honest as she is by nature. As the Game progresses however, Nao begins to prove herself perfectly capable of deception, and manages several [[Awesome/AnimeAndManga Crowning Moments of Awesome]] through it. In fact, her lies have frequently ''relied'' on people being aware of her honest nature, since no one stops to think ''she'' might be lying.
* Tamiya attempts to wrest back control of the LitchiHikariClub Manga/LitchiHikariClub from Zeera once the group approaches the MoralEventHorizon. Very fittingly, his epithet is "Bullet of Truth" and he is often shown as the most obviously upstanding member of the nine.
* [[spoiler:Hakuryuu]] from ''Manga/MagiLabyrinthOfMagic'' is very honorable, started the story as very naive and his Djinn describes him as "painfully honest". He's also a KnightTemplar with BlackAndWhiteInsanity who only cares for his last remaining sibling and it's unable to let leave his hatred behind.



** It comes back to bite him when she trades him for Will. When Barbosa objects because Jack is a Pirate Lord, she simply responds, "King."

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** It comes back to bite him when she trades him for Will. When Barbosa Barbossa objects because Jack is a Pirate Lord, she simply responds, "King."



** [[spoiler:In a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome perfectly legal ritual duel]], no less, and [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt gets Valda's rank and Blademaster status afterwards]].]]
* Adviser Arfarra from Yulia Latynina's ''WeiEmpire'' cycle might fit - while almost the entire Weian establishment is either corrupt or negligent, Arfarra is neither, but is instead a truly ruthless (but consistently, if not obviously idealistic) KnightTemplar who has been described as being "capable of ''anything'' in matters that ''didn't'' affect his own interests" (as opposed to the character that described him thusly, who is capable of anything in matters that ''did'').

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** [[spoiler:In a [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome perfectly legal ritual duel]], no less, and [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt gets Valda's rank and Blademaster status afterwards]].]]
* Adviser Arfarra from Yulia Latynina's ''WeiEmpire'' ''Literature/WeiEmpire'' cycle might fit - while almost the entire Weian establishment is either corrupt or negligent, Arfarra is neither, but is instead a truly ruthless (but consistently, if not obviously idealistic) KnightTemplar who has been described as being "capable of ''anything'' in matters that ''didn't'' affect his own interests" (as opposed to the character that described him thusly, who is capable of anything in matters that ''did'').



* Michael in ''PrisonBreak''. Linc knows he is going to be executed but at least he has the satisfaction of knowing that Michael went to college and will have a good life. Except not because Michael cannot let Linc die for a crime he didn't commit so he gets himself sent to prison on purpose to rescue him.

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* Michael in ''PrisonBreak''.''Series/PrisonBreak''. Linc knows he is going to be executed but at least he has the satisfaction of knowing that Michael went to college and will have a good life. Except not because Michael cannot let Linc die for a crime he didn't commit so he gets himself sent to prison on purpose to rescue him.
31st Aug '15 2:23:51 AM WillBGood
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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', the nobleman Haverness is known for his honesty. He's the last one who would be told about a revolution against the king, as he takes his oaths so seriously that he'd be sure to betray all the plans immediately. However, the king is stupid enough to not take into account that he himself has accepted responsibility for the protection of the nobles who have sworn allegiance to him. And Haverness' loyalty is not only to the king, but also to the people under ''his'' protection. [[spoiler: A revolution takes place, with the justification of ScrewTheRulesYouBrokeThemFirst]]

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* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', the nobleman Haverness is known for his honesty. He's the last one who would be told about a revolution against the king, as he takes his oaths so seriously that he'd be sure to betray all the plans immediately. However, the king is stupid enough to not take into account that he himself has accepted responsibility for the protection of the nobles who have sworn allegiance to him. And Haverness' loyalty is not only to the king, but also to the people under ''his'' protection. [[spoiler: A revolution takes place, with the justification of ScrewTheRulesYouBrokeThemFirst]]ScrewTheRulesTheyBrokeThemFirst]]
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