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** In the Raoh Den OVA, Souther does this for pretty much the same reasons as Shin.
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* Subverted in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. After Goku goes Super Saiyan, Freeza claims that he'd rather die by his own hands than a Saiyan's - and then fires at the planet, gloating that he can survive in a vacuum. As it turns out, he holds back too much power for fear of killing himself, [[MagicCountdown delaying]] the final explosion.

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* Subverted in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. After Goku goes Super Saiyan, Freeza claims that he'd rather die by his own hands than a Saiyan's - -- and then fires at the planet, gloating that he can survive in a vacuum. As it turns out, he holds back too much power for fear of killing himself, [[MagicCountdown delaying]] the final explosion.



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* Happens several times in the ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' comics released by Dark Horse Comics as most humans would rather die than be torn apart by the Xenomorphs or be impregnated by a face hugger.

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* Happens several times in the ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' comics released by Dark Horse Comics as most humans would rather die than be torn apart by the Xenomorphs or be impregnated by a face hugger.facehugger.



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* In "FanFic/TiberiumWars", it is a common belief among Nod soldiers and officers that their prisoners of war will be tortured and raped by GDI troops - which leads to a Black Hand officer executing his own immobilized wounded to keep them from falling into enemy hands. GDI, meanwhile, views this as appalling and as a fanatical enemy denying them intelligence sources.

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* In "FanFic/TiberiumWars", ''FanFic/TiberiumWars'', it is a common belief among Nod soldiers and officers that their prisoners of war will be tortured and raped by GDI troops - -- which leads to a Black Hand officer executing his own immobilized wounded to keep them from falling into enemy hands. GDI, meanwhile, views this as appalling and as a fanatical enemy denying them intelligence sources.



* In ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', it's eventually shown that this is how Tarakudo's mortal life (before becoming an Oni) ended surrounded by his enemies in war and deciding they didn't deserve the honor of taking his life, he stabbed himself.

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* In ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'', it's eventually shown that this is how Tarakudo's mortal life (before becoming an Oni) ended surrounded by his enemies in war and deciding they didn't deserve the honor of taking his life, he stabbed himself.



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* ''Franchise/ResidentEvil''.

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* ''Franchise/ResidentEvil''.''Franchise/ResidentEvil'':



-->'''Klytus''': Now the tributes from Ardentia.
-->'''Prince Thun''': Your Majesty, we, the people of Ardentia, we have suffered since you blasted our kingdom. I can offer you nothing this year, except my loyalty.
-->'''Klytus''': Prince Thun, we prize nothing more highly. And tell us, how great is this loyalty to your emperor?
-->'''Prince Thun''': Without measure.
-->'''Ming the Merciless''': We are delighted to hear it; fall on your sword. [[{{Beat}} (dramatic pause)]] Show us this loyalty, throw yourself onto your sword.
-->(Prince Thun approaches Ming's throne, draws his sword)
-->'''Prince Thun''': May this deed of Prince Thun be an example to all the kingdoms of Mongo. Death to Ming!
** Ming's floating droid assistant freezes Prince Thun, Ming seizes the Prince's sword, disembowels and executes him on the spot.





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-->'''Klytus''': -->'''Klytus:''' Now the tributes from Ardentia.
-->'''Prince Thun''':
Ardentia.\\
'''Prince Thun:'''
Your Majesty, we, the people of Ardentia, we have suffered since you blasted our kingdom. I can offer you nothing this year, except my loyalty. \n-->'''Klytus''': \\
'''Klytus:'''
Prince Thun, we prize nothing more highly. And tell us, how great is this loyalty to your emperor?
-->'''Prince Thun''':
emperor?\\
'''Prince Thun:'''
Without measure.
-->'''Ming
measure.\\
'''Ming
the Merciless''': Merciless:''' We are delighted to hear it; fall on your sword. [[{{Beat}} (dramatic pause)]] ''[[[{{Beat}} dramatic pause]]]'' Show us this loyalty, throw yourself onto your sword.
-->(Prince
sword.\\
''[Prince
Thun approaches Ming's throne, draws his sword)
-->'''Prince Thun''':
sword]''\\
'''Prince Thun:'''
May this deed of Prince Thun be an example to all the kingdoms of Mongo. Death to Ming!
** Ming's
Ming!\\
''[Ming's
floating droid assistant freezes Prince Thun, Ming seizes the Prince's sword, disembowels and executes him on the spot.




spot]''



-->When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
-->And the women come out to cut up what remains,
-->Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
-->An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.

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-->When -->''When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
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plains,\\
And
the women come out to cut up what remains,
-->Jest
remains,\\
Jest
roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
-->An'
brains\\
An'
go to your Gawd like a soldier.''



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* ''Series/LoisAndClark'' had Lex Luthor jump from a building rather than face jail. It seemed to be a point with him, because later he tried to electrocute himself but Superman stopped him. This might be the only time where a villain was effectively killed by being captured.

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* ''Series/LoisAndClark'' had has Lex Luthor jump from a building rather than face jail. It seemed seems to be a point with him, because later he tried tries to electrocute himself but Superman stopped stops him. This might be the only time where a villain was is effectively killed by being captured.



** ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E9TheSatanPit The Satan Pit]]'' featured a variant that could probably be considered [[ICannotSelfTerminate assisted suicide]], when a character requests that the air be sucked from the chamber he is in before the enemy gets him.
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E1DeepBreath Deep Breath]]'', when it looks like the droids are about to slaughter the Doctor's friends, [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Strax]] turns his gun on himself, clearly intending to go out on his own terms. Fortunately, Vastra stops him, and a few moments later the Doctor defeats the Half-Face Man, [[KeystoneArmy deactivating the other droids]].
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist Time Heist]]'', the theory behind the Shredders is to die quickly rather than having one's mind devoured by the Teller, [[spoiler:before they're revealed to be teleporters]].

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** ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E9TheSatanPit "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E9TheSatanPit The Satan Pit]]'' featured Pit]]" features a variant that could can probably be considered [[ICannotSelfTerminate assisted suicide]], when a character requests that the air be sucked from the chamber he is in before the enemy gets him.
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E1DeepBreath "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E1DeepBreath Deep Breath]]'', Breath]]", when it looks like the droids are about to slaughter the Doctor's friends, [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Strax]] turns his gun on himself, clearly intending to go out on his own terms. Fortunately, Vastra stops him, and a few moments later the Doctor defeats the Half-Face Man, [[KeystoneArmy deactivating the other droids]].
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist Time Heist]]'', Heist]]", the theory behind the Shredders is to die quickly rather than having one's mind devoured by the Teller, [[spoiler:before they're revealed to be teleporters]].



** And in the TOS episode "The Doomsday Machine" in which Commodore Decker pilots a shuttlecraft into The Machine as atonement for the loss of his crew - which gives Kirk and Spock the hint they need to destroy it.

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** And in the TOS episode "The Doomsday Machine" in which Commodore Decker pilots a shuttlecraft into The Machine as atonement for the loss of his crew - -- which gives Kirk and Spock the hint they need to destroy it.



* Inverted a bit in ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' when Gibbs' mentor Mike Franks apparently thought it was better to be killed (in a suicidal fight with a deranged SuperSoldier-turned-SerialKiller) than die of lung cancer. Director Jenny Shepard previously made the same choice and went out fighting rather than expire more slowly of her unspecified terminal illness.
** Played straight in ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'', when an old colleague of Sam's [[spoiler: swallows a coded list of Soviet sleeper agents]] and hangs himself. This was all part of a ThanatosGambit to prevent arms dealer Sidorov from capturing him and torturing him for the names (many of whom had viable nuclear bombs).
* ''Series/{{JAG}}'': After Mustafa Atef, the in-universe Al-Qaeda number 3, was sentenced to death by the military tribunal in "Tribunal", he commits suicide in his cell without uttering a sound.

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* ''Series/{{NCIS}}'':
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Inverted a bit in ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' when Gibbs' mentor Mike Franks apparently thought it was better to be killed (in a suicidal fight with a deranged SuperSoldier-turned-SerialKiller) than die of lung cancer. cancer.
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Director Jenny Shepard previously made the same choice and went out fighting rather than expire more slowly of her unspecified terminal illness.
** * Played straight in ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'', when an old colleague of Sam's [[spoiler: swallows [[spoiler:swallows a coded list of Soviet sleeper agents]] and hangs himself. This was all part of a ThanatosGambit to prevent arms dealer Sidorov from capturing him and torturing him for the names (many of whom had viable nuclear bombs).
* ''Series/{{JAG}}'': After Mustafa Atef, the in-universe Al-Qaeda number 3, was is sentenced to death by the military tribunal in "Tribunal", he commits suicide in his cell without uttering a sound.



* A variation was featured in ''Series/TwentyFour'' Day 5: Jack has [[TheDragon Christopher Henderson]] cornered and tells him it's over only for him to smugly inform Jack that he has men in a helicopter following Secretary James Heller's car and that if he's not released, they will kill him. Jack calls Heller to check if this is a bluff but it isn't: Heller can see the chopper. Jack apparently has no choice but to let Henderson go... until Heller informs him that he will not be used to hurt the country, tells Jack to tell his daughter he loves her and ''drives his car off a cliff'', allowing Jack to go to town on Henderson. Luckily, Heller survives.

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* ''Series/TwentyFour'':
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A variation was is featured in ''Series/TwentyFour'' Day 5: Jack has [[TheDragon Christopher Henderson]] cornered and tells him it's over only for him to smugly inform Jack that he has men in a helicopter following Secretary James Heller's car and that if he's not released, they will kill him. Jack calls Heller to check if this is a bluff but it isn't: Heller can see the chopper. Jack apparently has no choice but to let Henderson go... until Heller informs him that he will not be used to hurt the country, tells Jack to tell his daughter he loves her and ''drives his car off a cliff'', allowing Jack to go to town on Henderson. Luckily, Heller survives.



* In ''Series/StargateSG1'' Stargate Command incorporated a SelfDestructMechanism (a nuclear bomb) into its design from the very beginning, as did their offworld bases. This served the dual purpose of denying information to the enemy and burying the stargate to cut off invasion attempts. In at least one AlternateTimeline ("[[Recap/StargateSG1S1E19ThereButForTheGraceOfGod There but for the Grace of God]]") the SGC self-destruct was actually detonated, while the original Alpha Site blew theirs in "[[Recap/StargateSG1S7E16DeathKnell Death Knell]]" while under attack by two of Anubis' [[SuperSoldier Kull warriors]].

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* In ''Series/StargateSG1'' ''Series/StargateSG1'', Stargate Command incorporated a SelfDestructMechanism (a nuclear bomb) into its design from the very beginning, as did their offworld bases. This served serves the dual purpose of denying information to the enemy and burying the stargate Stargate to cut off invasion attempts. In at least one AlternateTimeline ("[[Recap/StargateSG1S1E19ThereButForTheGraceOfGod There but for the Grace of God]]") the SGC self-destruct was is actually detonated, while the original Alpha Site blew blows theirs in "[[Recap/StargateSG1S7E16DeathKnell Death Knell]]" while under attack by two of Anubis' Anubis's [[SuperSoldier Kull warriors]].



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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'':

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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'':



** Arguably the rationale behind Exterminatus - basically assisted suicide on a planetary scale, it is typically performed on worlds that have been, or are in danger of being, overwhelmed by Chaos, Tyranids, or Necrons; through this, the resources (human and otherwise) are kept from the enemy, and the people are spared further suffering.

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** Arguably the rationale behind Exterminatus - -- basically assisted suicide on a planetary scale, it scale. It is typically performed on worlds that have been, or are in danger of being, overwhelmed by Chaos, Tyranids, or Necrons; through this, the resources (human and otherwise) are kept from the enemy, and the people are spared further suffering.



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* The ''{{Website/Snopes}}'' [[http://www.snopes.com/military/flagball.asp version]] of the "Flagpole ball has a pistol for suicide" {{Urban Legend|s}}.
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* In ''[=MOBAS=]'', killing yourself means that the enemy team will not get XP and Gold. However, only certain characters are capable of doing it (Such as Pudge using Rot away from the enemies to kill himself on ''VideoGame/DOTA2'') and there are some items that can give you an option to suicide (Bloodstone, on ''VideoGame/DOTA2'').

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* The ''{{Website/Snopes}}'' [[http://www.snopes.com/military/flagball.asp version]] of the "Flagpole ball has a pistol for suicide" {{Urban Legend|s}}.
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* In ''[=MOBAS=]'', killing yourself means that the enemy team will not get XP and Gold. However, only certain characters are capable of doing it (Such (such as Pudge using Rot away from the enemies to kill himself on ''VideoGame/DOTA2'') and there are some items that can give you an option to suicide (Bloodstone, on ''VideoGame/DOTA2'').



--> '''Bill:''' We've been immune so far, but, well, if I start to turn, promise you'll shoot me.\\

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--> '''Bill:''' -->'''Bill:''' We've been immune so far, but, well, if I start to turn, promise you'll shoot me.\\



** Likewise, ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'' has its fair share of similar cases in isolated areas. Usually, they're in places infested with Xen creatures or Headcrabs, but there were some that presumably just wanted to escape the tyranny of the Combine.

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** * Likewise, ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'' has its fair share of similar cases in isolated areas. Usually, they're in places infested with Xen creatures or Headcrabs, but there were some that presumably just wanted to escape the tyranny of the Combine.



* Outside of storylines, sometimes suicide is not as bad for your (team's) score as losing to an enemy. For example, in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' Time battles, by default, a self-destruct takes a point off your score, but getting [=KOed=] takes a point off your score ''and'' awards one to whoever got the finishing blow. Either way, your damage is reset. In battles with only two fighters \ teams, it's particularly clear; if Fighter A [=KOs=] Fighter B 3 times, and fighter A self-destructs 5 times (resetting their damage each time), Fighter A will win. The way around this is to set the self-destruct penalty to 2 points instead of 1, although that makes accidental [=SDs=] more annoying. Unfortunately in most games like this there's rarely a way to ''not'' reset a player's damage when they self-destruct, so either suicides are exploitable, or punished too severely for innocent mistakes.
** That's why you play Stock matches instead so the winner isn't "highest KO count" but "last man standing".
* Many FPS games will have strategic advantages for a player to self destruct rather than be killed, especially in team matches with close scores. A suicide subtracts one point, but if the other team would get their final point, it gives your team a chance to catch up.
** Especially in instances where you're in a close-range firefight with an enemy, killing yourself with explosives can often result in the death of the enemy, denying the enemy the point while giving you a kill to counterbalance your suicide. Extra amusing in ''Halo'': when an enemy stickies you, you simply run up to them and explode all over them.
* In the second level of the Alien campaign in the 2010 ''AlienVsPredator'' game, a civilian will commit suicide as soon you enter the room he is in. Just before this, you hear him saying to a marine that he would rather do this than be killed by the xenomorph.
** Several human targets choose to kill themselves rather than face the alternative, mostly because the alternative is being held down and [[FaceFullOfAlienWingWong intimately introduced to a facehugger]]. There is an achievement for catching them all, as if sadism alone wasn't incentive enough.
* At the end of ''TheSaboteur'' you are facing off with the man who [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking cheated to beat you in a race]] (oh, and he killed your friend) and, after a speech about how killing him won't change the damage that has been caused, you are given a gun to aim at the Nazi (who's gun is out of ammo). If you decide to not pull the trigger he'll keep backing up, turn, and leap off the edge of the building. Did I mention you're near the top of the Eiffel Tower?

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* Outside of storylines, sometimes suicide is not as bad for your (team's) score as losing to an enemy. For example, in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' Time battles, by default, a self-destruct takes a point off your score, but getting [=KOed=] takes a point off your score ''and'' awards one to whoever got the finishing blow. Either way, your damage is reset. In battles with only two fighters \ teams, it's particularly clear; if Fighter A [=KOs=] Fighter B 3 times, and fighter A self-destructs 5 times (resetting their damage each time), Fighter A will win. The way around this is to set the self-destruct penalty to 2 points instead of 1, although that makes accidental [=SDs=] more annoying. Unfortunately in most games like this there's rarely a way to ''not'' reset a player's damage when they self-destruct, so either suicides are exploitable, or punished too severely for innocent mistakes.
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mistakes. That's why you play Stock matches instead so the winner isn't "highest KO count" but "last man standing".
* Many FPS games will have strategic advantages for a player to self destruct rather than be killed, especially in team matches with close scores. A suicide subtracts one point, but if the other team would get their final point, it gives your team a chance to catch up.
**
up. Especially in instances where you're in a close-range firefight with an enemy, killing yourself with explosives can often result in the death of the enemy, denying the enemy the point while giving you a kill to counterbalance your suicide. Extra amusing in ''Halo'': when an enemy stickies you, you simply run up to them and explode all over them.
* In the second level of the Alien campaign in the 2010 ''AlienVsPredator'' ''Franchise/AlienVsPredator'' game, a civilian will commit suicide as soon you enter the room he is in. Just before this, you hear him saying to a marine that he would rather do this than be killed by the xenomorph.
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xenomorph. Several human targets choose to kill themselves rather than face the alternative, mostly because the alternative is being held down and [[FaceFullOfAlienWingWong intimately introduced to a facehugger]]. There is an achievement for catching them all, as if sadism alone wasn't incentive enough.
* At the end of ''TheSaboteur'' ''VideoGame/TheSaboteur'' you are facing off with the man who [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking cheated to beat you in a race]] (oh, and he killed your friend) and, after a speech about how killing him won't change the damage that has been caused, you are given a gun to aim at the Nazi (who's gun is out of ammo). If you decide to not pull the trigger he'll keep backing up, turn, and leap off the edge of the building. Did I mention you're near the top of the Eiffel Tower?



* Happened in [[TearJerker particularly heartbreaking]] fashion during the [[HopelessWar Elder Wars]] in ''{{VideoGame/Lusternia}}''. {{Justified|Trope}} in that, by dying, the Elder Gods gave life to the mortal races - if they'd fought to the last, they would've been [[CannibalismSuperpower devoured]] by The Soulless Gods instead.

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* Happened Happens in [[TearJerker particularly heartbreaking]] fashion during the [[HopelessWar Elder Wars]] in ''{{VideoGame/Lusternia}}''. {{Justified|Trope}} in that, by dying, the Elder Gods gave life to the mortal races - if they'd fought to the last, they would've been [[CannibalismSuperpower devoured]] by The Soulless Gods instead.



* The ''Website/{{Snopes}}'' [[http://www.snopes.com/military/flagball.asp version]] of the "Flagpole ball has a pistol for suicide" {{Urban Legend|s}}.



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** Joseph Goebbels' two last acts on Earth were to murder his own unwilling children at least one fought back then to kill himself.

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** Joseph Goebbels' two last acts on Earth were to murder his own unwilling children -- at least one fought back -- then to kill himself.



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9th Jun '16 8:19:34 PM Doug86
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** Played straight in ''Series/{{NCIS:LosAngeles}}'', when an old colleague of Sam's [[spoiler: swallows a coded list of Soviet sleeper agents]] and hangs himself. This was all part of a ThanatosGambit to prevent arms dealer Sidorov from capturing him and torturing him for the names (many of whom had viable nuclear bombs).

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** Played straight in ''Series/{{NCIS:LosAngeles}}'', ''Series/NCISLosAngeles'', when an old colleague of Sam's [[spoiler: swallows a coded list of Soviet sleeper agents]] and hangs himself. This was all part of a ThanatosGambit to prevent arms dealer Sidorov from capturing him and torturing him for the names (many of whom had viable nuclear bombs).
1st Jun '16 1:33:37 AM Doug86
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* In the ''Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'' "YPRES 1914" skit, five UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne soldiers are trapped behind enemy lines, but there are only enough rations for 4 people to survive the trip back. One of them must take...The Other Way Out (rather than, say, surrendering to the Germans).

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* In the ''Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus'' "YPRES 1914" skit, five UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne UsefulNotes/WorldWarI soldiers are trapped behind enemy lines, but there are only enough rations for 4 people to survive the trip back. One of them must take...The Other Way Out (rather than, say, surrendering to the Germans).
12th May '16 8:10:53 AM snichols1973
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** Ming's droid freezes Prince Thun, Ming seizes the Prince's sword, disembowels and executes him on the spot.





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** Ming's floating droid assistant freezes Prince Thun, Ming seizes the Prince's sword, disembowels and executes him on the spot.




12th May '16 8:07:55 AM snichols1973
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* ''Film/FullMetalJacket'': Private Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence shoots Sgt. Hartman, his drill instructor to death before he turns the gun on himself and literally blows his brains out. Had he survived, he would have been court-martialed, sent away to a psychiatric hospital, or dishonorably discharged.[[/folder]]

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* ''Film/FullMetalJacket'': Private Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence shoots Sgt. Hartman, his drill instructor to death before he turns the gun on himself and literally blows his brains out. Had he survived, he would have been court-martialed, sent away to a psychiatric hospital, or dishonorably discharged.discharged.
* Inverted in ''Film/FlashGordon'' when Thun, Prince of Ardentia attempts to assassinate Ming the Merciless:
-->'''Klytus''': Now the tributes from Ardentia.
-->'''Prince Thun''': Your Majesty, we, the people of Ardentia, we have suffered since you blasted our kingdom. I can offer you nothing this year, except my loyalty.
-->'''Klytus''': Prince Thun, we prize nothing more highly. And tell us, how great is this loyalty to your emperor?
-->'''Prince Thun''': Without measure.
-->'''Ming the Merciless''': We are delighted to hear it; fall on your sword. [[{{Beat}} (dramatic pause)]] Show us this loyalty, throw yourself onto your sword.
-->(Prince Thun approaches Ming's throne, draws his sword)
-->'''Prince Thun''': May this deed of Prince Thun be an example to all the kingdoms of Mongo. Death to Ming!
** Ming's droid freezes Prince Thun, Ming seizes the Prince's sword, disembowels and executes him on the spot.





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11th May '16 2:03:29 PM erforce
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* Subverted in the pilot episode for ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles''; Sarah is jumped by the Terminator Cromartie, who is attempting to use her to get to John. She tries to commit suicide rather than be used as a tool to assassinate her son, but Cromartie grabs her gun at the last second and knocks her out.
* A few ''Star Trek'' entries...

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* Subverted in the pilot episode for ''Series/TheSarahConnorChronicles''; ''Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles''; Sarah is jumped by the Terminator Cromartie, who is attempting to use her to get to John. She tries to commit suicide rather than be used as a tool to assassinate her son, but Cromartie grabs her gun at the last second and knocks her out.
* A few ''Star Trek'' ''Franchise/StarTrek'' entries...
8th May '16 4:24:40 AM LordGro
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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' is basically ''Better to Die Than Be Killed: The Movie''. The cast have to try and find ways to deal with the downfall of the Third Reich. Their options are: 1) throwing themselves at the mercy of the advancing Red Army, 2) trying to run the gauntlet to seek out some isolated Nazi-friendly corner of the world where they can hide, or 3) taking their own lives. Seeing as Option #3 at least gives them the choice of method, many people settle on that one.

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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' is basically ''Better to Die Than Be Killed: The Movie''. ''Film/{{Downfall}}'': The cast have to try and find ways to deal with the downfall of the Third Reich. Their options are: 1) throwing themselves at the mercy of the advancing Red Army, 2) trying to run the gauntlet to seek out some isolated Nazi-friendly corner of the world where they can hide, or 3) taking their own lives. Seeing as Option #3 at least gives them the choice of method, many people settle on that one.
8th May '16 3:15:29 AM thatmadork
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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' is basically ''Better to Die Than Be Killed: The Movie''. The cast have to try and find ways to deal with the downfall of the Third Reich. Their options are throwing themselves at the mercy of the advancing Red Army, trying to run the gauntlet and find some isolated Nazi-friendly corner of the world to hide in, or taking their own lives to guarantee escape from trial and imprisonment. Seeing as that last one at least gives them to choice of method, many people settle on that.

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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' is basically ''Better to Die Than Be Killed: The Movie''. The cast have to try and find ways to deal with the downfall of the Third Reich. Their options are are: 1) throwing themselves at the mercy of the advancing Red Army, 2) trying to run the gauntlet and find to seek out some isolated Nazi-friendly corner of the world to hide in, where they can hide, or 3) taking their own lives to guarantee escape from trial and imprisonment. lives. Seeing as that last one Option #3 at least gives them to the choice of method, many people settle on that.that one.
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