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28th Feb '16 2:56:18 PM Allronix
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** It's also explained why ButThouMust when it comes to working with the Empire as a BountyHunter. The in-game codex explains that while Braden (the hunter's mentor) was apolitical, taking jobs from Hutts, Imperial Intelligence, and even the odd Jedi [[spoiler: One of the Consular's companions used to be with his stable]], the Republic has all but outlawed the profession, leaving hired guns to work for either the Hutts or Imperials. The Imperials counter by being better about contracts than Hutts.
5th Jan '16 10:35:36 AM Reflextion
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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'', when Shepard joins up with Cerberus, he finds out that they not only built him a new ''Normandy'', but doubled its size and essentially made it look so much livelier than the original ship. [[spoiler:This is all done with the intention of emotionally manipulating Shepard into complete compliance to The Illusive Man.]]
17th Dec '15 4:29:18 PM WhatTheSpoot
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* As with the [[Film/FightClub movie counterpart]] in ''Literature/FightClub'', intense and charismatic new-age prophet [[DarkMessiah Tyler]] [[WesternTerrorists Durden]] preaches disaster as a necessary path to true freedom. Of course, given his somewhat [[SerialKiller nastier temperament]] in the novel, it's a bit more ''evil'' here.

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* As with the [[Film/FightClub movie counterpart]] counterpart]], in ''Literature/FightClub'', intense and charismatic new-age prophet [[DarkMessiah Tyler]] [[WesternTerrorists Durden]] preaches disaster as a necessary path to true freedom. Of course, given his somewhat [[SerialKiller nastier temperament]] in the novel, it's a bit more ''evil'' here.
17th Dec '15 4:28:53 PM WhatTheSpoot
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* As with the [[{{Film}}/FightClub movie counterpart]] in ''Literature/FightClub'', intense and charismatic new-age prophet [[DarkMessiah Tyler]] [[WesternTerrorists Durden]] preaches disaster as a necessary path to true freedom. Of course, given his somewhat [[SerialKiller nastier temperament]] in the novel, it's a bit more ''evil'' here.

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* As with the [[{{Film}}/FightClub [[Film/FightClub movie counterpart]] in ''Literature/FightClub'', intense and charismatic new-age prophet [[DarkMessiah Tyler]] [[WesternTerrorists Durden]] preaches disaster as a necessary path to true freedom. Of course, given his somewhat [[SerialKiller nastier temperament]] in the novel, it's a bit more ''evil'' here.
17th Dec '15 4:28:16 PM WhatTheSpoot
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* As with the [[{{Film}}/FightClub movie counterpart]] in ''Literature/FightClub'', intense and charismatic new-age prophet [[DarkMessiah Tyler]] [[WesternTerrorists Durden]] preaches disaster as a necessary path to true freedom. Of course, given his somewhat [[SerialKiller nastier temperament]] in the novel, it's a bit more ''evil'' here.
18th Nov '15 3:18:31 AM TitanFireFlies
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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'', when Shepard joins up with Cerberus, he finds out that they not only built him a new ''Normandy'', but doubled its size and essentially made it look so much livelier than the original ship. [[spoiler:This is all done with the intention of emotionally manipulating Shepard into complete compliance to The Illusive Man.]]
11th Sep '15 4:22:18 PM HighCrate
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* The second season of ''Series/TheWire'' gives us Nick Sobotka, a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevedore stevedore]] in Baltimore's slowly dying dockworker union. As an honest man, he simply can't get enough work, as it's noted numerous times that there isn't enough traffic going through the port for people as far down the seniority scale as Nick, so he can only get a few hours a week, has to live with his parents instead of with his longtime girlfriend and son, try to avoid getting his car repossessed by parking it far away from home every night and hoping the repo man won't look that far, etc. Once he does a couple of jobs with the international crime syndicate that smuggles drugs, women and other goods into the dock, he makes tens of thousands of dollars, TheDragon of said syndicate takes a fatherly interest in him, and Nick can start looking at the real possibility of getting a place wth and providing for his girlfriend and son.

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* The second season of ''Series/TheWire'' gives us Nick Sobotka, a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevedore stevedore]] in Baltimore's slowly dying dockworker union. As an honest man, he simply can't get enough work, as it's noted numerous times that there isn't enough traffic going through the port for people as far down the seniority scale as Nick, so he can only get a few hours a week, has to live with his parents instead of with his longtime girlfriend and son, try to avoid getting his car repossessed by parking it far away from home every night and hoping the repo man won't look that far, etc. Once he does a couple of jobs with the international crime syndicate that smuggles drugs, women and other goods into the dock, he makes tens of thousands of dollars, TheDragon of said syndicate takes a fatherly interest in him, and Nick can start looking at the real possibility of getting a place wth with and providing for his girlfriend and son.



* Eventually, it turns out [[spoiler:Series/BreakingBad]] is this for the hero.

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* Eventually, it turns out [[spoiler:Series/BreakingBad]] is * ''Series/BreakingBad'':
** Although he had already long settled on a life of crime,
this is what Walter White of ''Series/BreakingBad'' hopes working for Gus Fring will do for him, and indeed, Gus seems willing to act as a sort of mentor for Walt, offering advice on how to deal with the hero.difficulties of "this life." Of course, a multi-million-dollar paycheck doesn't hurt either. [[spoiler: {{Subverted}}. Walter is ultimately not willing to be subservient to anyone, and Gus is not willing to abide an employee who won't follow orders. Their partnership is short-lived.]]
** Walt later tries to use this to motivate Jesse to stick with his crew instead of retiring, offering to put him in charge of his own lab with the respect and authority that entails. [[AvertedTrope Jesse refuses]], already having more money than he will ever need (until Walt withholds it in a further attempt to manipulate him) and knowing all too well the toll the criminal life takes on him.



* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'': So, you're a bright-eyed and able-bodied vault dweller, out into the Capital Wasteland in search of your father or riches? First place you come to's quaint little Megaton. You could always help the local sheriff disarm the town's namesake nuke and get yourself a squalid little shack and a couple caps. Or, alternatively, you can arm the thing and score up to 1500 caps, get a nice suite with a stunning view by working for the badguys. By the first hour out of the vault in Fallout 3, you've all ready bettered your living arrangements more through evil than good. Enjoy the chance to drink the wasteland dry if you don't feel too terribly like saving it.
** Over [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas on the West coast]] however its somewhat averted. While working for the Legion you will become a second god and have your face on one of their coins they don't give a rats ass about "better living".

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* * ''Franchise/{{Fallout}}'':
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''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'': So, you're a bright-eyed and able-bodied vault dweller, out into the Capital Wasteland in search of your father or riches? First place you come to's quaint little Megaton. You could always help the local sheriff disarm the town's namesake nuke and get yourself a squalid little shack and a couple caps. Or, alternatively, you can arm the thing and score up to 1500 caps, get caps and a nice penthouse suite with a stunning view by working for the badguys. By the first hour out of the vault in Fallout 3, you've all ready already bettered your living arrangements more through evil than good. Enjoy the chance to drink the wasteland dry if you don't feel too terribly like saving it.
** Over [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas on the West coast]] however its somewhat averted. in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', however, it's {{downplayed}}. While working for the Legion you will become a second god and have your face on one of their coins they don't give a rats ass about "better living".your living arrangements. Working for House will get you this in spades, although he's ALighterShadeOfGray compared to the Legion.
11th Sep '15 4:07:42 PM HighCrate
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* In Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/TheStand,'' Lloyd is a petty crook who is locked in jail when the [[ThePlague Superflu]] hits. He's one of the few immune to the virus, but when the guards die off and no one opens his cell, he resorts to cannibalism to keep from starving to death. [[BigBad Flagg]] comes along and lets him out, and from then on Lloyd is his loyal right-hand man. He even continues to serve Flagg when he stops believing in the cause, because whatever happens he owes Flagg his life.

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* In Creator/StephenKing's ''Literature/TheStand,'' ''Literature/TheStand'':
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Lloyd is a petty crook who is locked in jail when the [[ThePlague Superflu]] hits. He's one of the few immune to the virus, but when the guards die off and no one opens his cell, he resorts to cannibalism to keep from starving to death. [[BigBad Flagg]] comes along and lets him out, and from then on Lloyd is his loyal right-hand man. He even continues Beyond merely saving his life, Lloyd is grateful to serve Flagg when he stops believing in the cause, because whatever happens he owes for giving him a position of authority and respect, and believes ([[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane although it's not clear if he's right]]) that Flagg supernaturally enhanced his life.intelligence, competence, and confidence somehow.
** When [[TheMole Harold Lauder]] considers a HeelFaceTurn, this (along with {{revenge}}) is one of the justifications he considers for betraying the Free Zone. There, he thinks, he will never be more than "Harold Lauder, Citizen," whereas under Flagg, he would be "a prince." [[spoiler: Unfortunately, Flagg never comes through on this implied promise to Harold as he does to Lloyd, and Harold is RewardedAsATraitorDeserves instead.]]
11th Sep '15 4:02:15 PM HighCrate
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* The original ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'' comic, which the below film is based on. Rather than being recruited by assassins to become a badass hero, Wesley's trained to become a supervillain. The Fraternity of the graphic novel make no pretense of heroism or righteousness -- they KickTheDog on a regular basis ''[[EvilFeelsGood because it's fun]]'', and encourage Wesley to do the same. In fact, at the end, [[spoiler:in a fabulous deconstruction of the ComesGreatResponsibility [[AnAesop Aesop]], Wesley pretends to have a moral epiphany, tells his sidekick/fuck buddy that he was just kidding, then mocks the reader for having a moral compass. And then he rapes you.]]

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* The original ''ComicBook/{{Wanted}}'' comic, which the below film is based on. Rather than being recruited by assassins to become a badass hero, Wesley's trained to become a supervillain. The Fraternity of the graphic novel make no pretense of heroism or righteousness -- they took over the world because they could, and now KickTheDog on a regular basis ''[[EvilFeelsGood because it's fun]]'', and encourage Wesley to do the same. In fact, at the end, [[spoiler:in a fabulous deconstruction of the ComesGreatResponsibility [[AnAesop Aesop]], Wesley pretends to have a moral epiphany, tells his sidekick/fuck buddy that he was just kidding, then mocks the reader for having a moral compass. And then [[BreakingTheFourthWall he rapes you.you]].]]
31st Aug '15 1:24:12 AM MechWarrior
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** Over [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas on the west cost]] however its somewhat averted. While working for the Legion you will become a second god and have your face on one of their coins they don't give a rats ass about "better living".

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** Over [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas on the west cost]] West coast]] however its somewhat averted. While working for the Legion you will become a second god and have your face on one of their coins they don't give a rats ass about "better living".
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