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14th May '18 8:18:30 PM DiamondJim
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* ''Series/WonderWoman'': Wonder Woman stays on Earth instead of exploring the stars with Andros. Additionally, her World War II romantic interest in Steve Trevor Sr. remains unrequited.
2nd May '18 11:48:29 PM foxley
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* The cops in ''Series/DCIBanks'' seem to be treated very coldly by the general public in Eastvale; absolutely thankless when cases are cracked, and apportioning blame and scorn when even the smallest thing goes wrong.
11th Apr '18 7:58:14 AM Sapphirea2
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** The Twelfth Doctor's tenure (Series 8-10) embodies this trope. Having faced so much loss in his efforts to do good (ChronicHeroSyndrome and SamaritanSyndrome) by this point in his lives, he is perhaps ''too'' determined to hold himself to his chosen name and save people. In Series 9 he ends up betrayed by [[spoiler: Ashildr/Me and the Time Lords]] -- who owed their lives to him -- and his companion Clara (also prone to ChronicHeroSyndrome) [[spoiler: ends up dead]] when the plan goes awry. ''And then'', he endures a torture chamber; in the aftermath, a man distinguished by compassion for others [[NoSympathy doesn't receive it]] when ''he's'' been DrivenToMadness. He becomes a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in "Hell Bent", seeking {{Revenge}} against his enemies and risking all of space and time to [[spoiler: get Clara back]]. Thankfully for everyone he repents... but RedemptionEqualsAffliction: [[spoiler: he loses her and ''crucial memories of her'' via Mind Rape]]. He has a better stretch for a while after that, but then in Series 10 the StoryArc begins when he decides [[spoiler: not to execute insane, murderous Missy]] and thus has to take TheSlowPath guarding a vault that contains [[spoiler: her, rather than her corpse]] for 1,000 years. His efforts to do the right thing eventually leave him completely alone and unsure of whether anyone he cares about is okay, and resisting the prospect of another regeneration. But, as "Extremis" puts it, a ''true'' hero isn't truly good unless they're willing to stay that way [[WhatYouAreInTheDark "Without hope, without witness, without reward."]] And he ''does'' want to be a hero.
-->''"I can't keep doing this. I can't! I can't always do this! '''It's not fair! Clara, it's just not fair! WHY CAN'T I JUST LOSE?!'''"''

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** The Twelfth Doctor's tenure MythArc (Series 8-10) embodies this trope. Having faced lost so much loss in to his efforts to do good (ChronicHeroSyndrome ChronicHeroSyndrome and SamaritanSyndrome) SamaritanSyndrome by this point in his lives, incarnation, he is perhaps ''too'' determined to hold himself to his chosen name and save people. others. In Series 9 he ends up betrayed by [[spoiler: Ashildr/Me and the Time Lords]] -- who owed their lives to him (with, granted, huge downsides as a result) -- and his companion Clara (also prone to ChronicHeroSyndrome) [[spoiler: ends up dead]] when the plan goes awry. awry thanks to ''her'' ChronicHeroSyndrome. ''And then'', then'' he endures a torture chamber; in the aftermath, a man distinguished by compassion for others [[NoSympathy doesn't receive it]] when ''he's'' been DrivenToMadness. He becomes a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds in "Hell Bent", seeking {{Revenge}} against his enemies and risking all of space and time to [[spoiler: get Clara back]]. Thankfully for everyone he repents... but RedemptionEqualsAffliction: [[spoiler: he loses her and ''crucial memories of her'' via Mind Rape]]. He has a better stretch for a while after that, while, but then in the Series 10 the StoryArc begins when he decides [[spoiler: not to execute insane, murderous Missy]] and thus has to take TheSlowPath guarding a vault that contains [[spoiler: her, rather than her corpse]] for 1,000 years. His efforts to do the right thing eventually leave him completely alone and unsure of whether anyone he cares about is okay, and resisting the prospect of another regeneration. But, as years. As "Extremis" puts it, a ''true'' hero isn't truly good unless they're willing to stay that way [[WhatYouAreInTheDark "Without hope, without witness, without reward."]] And "]] But his efforts to do right, ''kind'' things despite the risks to him and those who choose to help him eventually leave him completely alone, unsure if ''anyone'' he ''does'' want cares about is okay, and [[DeathSeeker longing for death instead of impending regeneration.]] However, ThrowTheDogABone comes in with his GrandFinale, in which he helps his original self accept regeneration (see below), performs one final act of kindness for another by [[spoiler: saving a man who turns out to be the Brigadier's ancestor]], learns [[spoiler: Bill did not die as a hero.
-->''"I
Cyberman but was rescued by her seemingly-lost sweetheart]], and has [[spoiler: his memories of Clara restored]]. Although he still wants his final rest, he decides helping others is still WorthLivingFor -- even as he acknowledges this particular self has to die to do so -- and regenerates into Thirteen.
-->(From "Heaven Sent") ''"I
can't keep doing this. I can't! I can't always do this! '''It's not fair! Clara, it's just not fair! WHY CAN'T I JUST LOSE?!'''"''



** In the 2017 Christmas episode, "Twice Upon a Time", the First Doctor holds this view. To him, by any objective measure Evil ''should'' prevail, as Good simply requires too many things, like self-sacrifice, that make for bad survival traits. Yet good is often the victor in the end. He acknowledges that figuring out ''why'' this is was one of the factors that led to his leaving Gallifrey. When the person he's telling this to suggests that maybe what keeps it all together is a single bloke timing around helping where he can, the Doctor proves ObliviousToHisOwnDescription and dismisses the idea as a fairy tale.

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** In the 2017 Christmas episode, "Twice Upon a Time", the First Doctor holds this view. To him, by any objective measure Evil ''should'' prevail, as Good simply requires too many things, like self-sacrifice, that make for bad survival traits. Yet good is often the victor in the end. He acknowledges that figuring out ''why'' this is was one of the factors that led to his leaving Gallifrey. When the person he's telling this to suggests that maybe what keeps it all together is a single bloke timing around helping where he can, the Doctor proves ObliviousToHisOwnDescription and dismisses the idea as a fairy tale. It ends up being the ''Twelfth'' Doctor who helps him understand that "The universe generally fails to be a fairy tale. But that's where we come in." This is critical to One choosing to regenerate (allowing subsequent selves to exist and thus avoiding a RealityBreakingParadox) instead of dying for good, despite having seen a glimpse of the sorrows in his future over the course of the story.
7th Apr '18 7:40:02 PM Imen1990
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* ''Film/TheVillain'': TheBadGuyWins. Or at least [[spoiler: thanks to the ArentYouGoingToRavishMe trope, gets the girl in the end.]]
30th Mar '18 3:24:23 PM villainouscrush
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* Reporting a rape to the police, and then taking it to court. Thanks to deeply ingrained misogyny, even police officers sometimes engage in victim blaming, and judges and juries are often more interested in the victim's history of consensual sex than in the rapist's history of rape. And having to talk about it in such a context doesn't make the trauma any better. As proven by cases where it only took one brave woman to encourage the serial rapist's ''other'' victims to testify, it can be worth it.
13th Mar '18 10:46:00 AM WoodyAlien3rd
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* Seems to be one of ''Anime/ReCreators''' main themes, at least regarding the Creations from the world of fiction. In the end, the unambiguously good characters either die or are incapacitated, including Yuuya (who was initially presented as a bad guy but was revealed to be good all along); the cynical and pragmatic bounty hunter Blitz (who isn't really "good" or "bad") survives without a scratch; finally, the ObviouslyEvil RealityWarper Magane and the BigBad OmnicidalManiac Altair both get what they want without receiving [[KarmaHoudini any punishment]], and without anybody being really able to stop them. No wonder that the show gets accused of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
21st Feb '18 7:04:12 PM MadAnthony94
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** Good old Commissioner Gordon, especially in ''Comics/BatmanYearOne''. Back in Chicago, he tried to do the right thing by reporting misconduct to his superiors... only to get shunned as a whistleblower and a traitor, and eventually reassigned to Gotham City, the beat where honesty might actually get you killed.



* Big time in ''ComicBook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck''. After twenty years of having his fortune yanked out of his grasp by arrant misfortune, Scrooge turns mean and, briefly, stops giving a damn about earning money square. Then we get a look at the [[BeingEvilSucks flipside]] of this trope; Scrooge's descent into bitterness and cruelty drives away his family and leaves him alone for decades.

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* Big time in ''ComicBook/TheLifeAndTimesOfScroogeMcDuck''. After twenty years of having his fortune yanked out of his grasp by arrant misfortune, Scrooge turns mean and, briefly, stops giving a damn about earning money square.does his best to strike it big without compromising his honesty or sense of fair play. Time and time again, this ends with him getting cheated out of everything he earns, until he finally snaps and tosses his moral code out the window. Then we get a look at the [[BeingEvilSucks flipside]] of this trope; Scrooge's descent into bitterness and cruelty drives away his family and leaves him alone for decades.
20th Feb '18 5:02:33 PM Stillalive
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* [[Literature/{{Victoria}} Victoria's]] protagonist, [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero Rumford]], is racist, homophobic, and misogynistic, and presented as virtuous for it [[ValuesDissonance by the narrative]]. As the society he lives in at the beginning of the story enforces an [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad exaggerated version]] of today's anti-discrimination laws, the narrative tries to pain him as a misunderstood martyr who if villified for telling the truth of the matter.

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* [[Literature/{{Victoria}} Victoria's]] protagonist, [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero [[DesignatedHero Rumford]], is racist, homophobic, and misogynistic, and presented as virtuous for it [[ValuesDissonance by the narrative]]. As the society he lives in at the beginning of the story enforces an [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad exaggerated version]] of today's anti-discrimination laws, the narrative tries to pain him as a misunderstood martyr who if is villified for telling the truth of the matter.
17th Feb '18 6:10:26 PM Stillalive
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* [[''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' Victoria's]] protagonist, [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero Rumford]], is racist, homophobic, and misogynistic, and presented as virtuous for it [[ValuesDissonance by the narrative]]. As the society he lives in at the beginning of the story enforces an [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad exaggerated version]] of today's anti-discrimination laws, the narrative tries to pain him as a misunderstood martyr who if villified for telling the truth of the matter.

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* [[''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' [[Literature/{{Victoria}} Victoria's]] protagonist, [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero Rumford]], is racist, homophobic, and misogynistic, and presented as virtuous for it [[ValuesDissonance by the narrative]]. As the society he lives in at the beginning of the story enforces an [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad exaggerated version]] of today's anti-discrimination laws, the narrative tries to pain him as a misunderstood martyr who if villified for telling the truth of the matter.
17th Feb '18 6:09:30 PM Stillalive
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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' takes place in a dystopian future where those who deviate from the corrupt regime's [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad ideologies]] can suffer extreme social or even legal sanctions. However, the heaviest burden for the protagonist remains his own conscience, and how to be true to his ideals.

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* ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' takes place [[''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' Victoria's]] protagonist, [[PoliticallyIncorrectHero Rumford]], is racist, homophobic, and misogynistic, and presented as virtuous for it [[ValuesDissonance by the narrative]]. As the society he lives in at the beginning of the story enforces an [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad exaggerated version]] of today's anti-discrimination laws, the narrative tries to pain him as a dystopian future where those misunderstood martyr who deviate from if villified for telling the corrupt regime's [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad ideologies]] can suffer extreme social or even legal sanctions. However, truth of the heaviest burden for the protagonist remains his own conscience, and how to be true to his ideals.matter.
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