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21st Aug '16 8:38:21 PM WillBGood
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-->'''1''': New Inquisitor starts as an Acolyte, and is the closest thing one can find to a WideEyedIdealist in this setting, believing in ''never'' touching alien or daemonic weaponry, always doing the right thing, that they'll always be able to save a lot of people. In other words, they're a Puritan Inquisitor.
-->'''2''': They'll see a Radical Inquisitor, which they consider to be no better than a Heretic.
-->'''3''': [[FallenHero The constant atrocities]], Exterminatus, and other such horrible things begin to get to the Inquisitor, and they feel [[WellIntentionedExtremist as if they should do anything to save the Imperium]], because there has to be a better way.
-->'''4''': The formerly Puritan inquisitor becomes a Radical, and is then (possibly) shot by a Puritan. [[FateWorseThanDeath Or worse]], and there's plenty of fates like that cause it's Warhammer 40k.

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-->'''1''': ### New Inquisitor starts as an Acolyte, and is the closest thing one can find to a WideEyedIdealist in this setting, believing in ''never'' touching alien or daemonic weaponry, always doing the right thing, that they'll always be able to save a lot of people. In other words, they're a Puritan Inquisitor.
-->'''2''': ### They'll see a Radical Inquisitor, which they consider to be no better than a Heretic.
-->'''3''': ### [[FallenHero The constant atrocities]], Exterminatus, and other such horrible things begin to get to the Inquisitor, and they feel [[WellIntentionedExtremist as if they should do anything to save the Imperium]], because there has to be a better way.
-->'''4''': ### The formerly Puritan inquisitor becomes a Radical, and is then (possibly) shot by a Puritan. [[FateWorseThanDeath Or worse]], and there's plenty of fates like that cause it's Warhammer 40k.
17th Aug '16 2:57:09 PM Chariset
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* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' [[TheRival Miles Edgeworth]] was the son of defense attorney and idolized his father, but fifteen years of Manfred von Karma's tutelage turned him into a ruthless prosecutor who hated criminals and their attorneys equally. Phoenix Wright ''changed the whole course of his life'' just to meet Edgeworth and try to shake him out of what he had become. [[HeelFaceTurn He succeeded]].

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* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'', [[TheRival Miles Edgeworth]] was the son of a defense attorney and idolized his father, but fifteen years of Manfred von Karma's tutelage turned him into a ruthless prosecutor who hated criminals and their attorneys equally. equally. Phoenix Wright ''changed the whole course of his life'' just to meet Edgeworth and try to shake him out of what he had become. become. [[HeelFaceTurn He succeeded]].
17th Aug '16 2:56:11 PM Chariset
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* In ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' [[TheRival Miles Edgeworth]] was the son of defense attorney and idolized his father, but fifteen years of Manfred von Karma's tutelage turned him into a ruthless prosecutor who hated criminals and their attorneys equally. Phoenix Wright ''changed the whole course of his life'' just to meet Edgeworth and try to shake him out of what he had become. [[HeelFaceTurn He succeeded]].
29th Jul '16 7:46:48 AM Quanyails
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* PlayedWith and [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' when Queen Elsa is using her powers [[PayEvilUntoEvil against the Duke of Weselton's henchmen]] after taking great precautions not to harm people with her powers, and ultimately failing. The subversion comes in because not only was it self defense, but because Prince Hans talks Elsa down before she would have otherwise killed them.[[/folder]]

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* PlayedWith and [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] in ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' when Queen Elsa is using her powers [[PayEvilUntoEvil against the Duke of Weselton's henchmen]] after taking great precautions not to harm people with her powers, and ultimately failing. The subversion comes in because not only was it self defense, self-defense, but because Prince Hans talks Elsa down before she would have otherwise killed them.[[/folder]]
28th Jun '16 11:49:48 AM Sapphirea2
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* The Doctor of ''Series/DoctorWho'' temporarily becomes this in the final stretch of Series 9. Between the events of "Face the Raven" and "Heaven Sent", he is betrayed by [[spoiler: both Ashildr and his own people]], TrappedInAnotherWorld, and subjected to ColdBloodedTorture -- suffering that he goes through completely alone because his beloved companion and LivingEmotionalCrutch Clara Oswald is [[spoiler: Killed Off for Real in a Senseless Sacrifice]] and he has no access to his TARDIS. DrivenToMadness, the result is that in the finale "Hell Bent" a man who is usually desperate to avoid embodying BewareTheSuperman becomes TheUnfettered, willing to harm others and risk the destruction of time itself for nothing more than the chance to [[spoiler: bring Clara back from the grave and give her a nice SAFE life]] -- exactly what Clara demanded him not to do, but then she had no idea he'd be tormented to the point his grief and rage would be too much to overcome and too big an obstacle for WhatTheHellHero speeches to undo. But he eventually has a HeelRealization, and with the help of [[spoiler: Mind Rape]] regains his sanity and moral compass, leaving him sadder and wiseer, a selfless healer once more.
25th Jun '16 6:06:51 PM siberia82
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* ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'': The once effervescent and idealistic Xavier we saw in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' has crumbled into a heap of melancholia and cynicism after 1963. His telepathy, which he had been at ease with since he was 12 years old, has suddenly become a heavy burden that he avoids using at all cost. Charles' social drinking has deteriorated into alcoholism, and he gives up on other activities that he used to enjoy, such as teaching, scientific research and womanizing, in favour of a self-imposed exile from everything that exists beyond his mansion. Xavier has more or less reduced himself into a ManChild who is completely dependent on Hank, when in the other movies, various mutants rely on the paternal telepath for emotional support. Even the way he dresses has changed dramatically; the impeccable suits that define Professor X's style have been replaced by a gaudy paisley shirt paired with a brown leather jacket, or if he's feeling especially lazy, just an undershirt with jeans. Charles has also neglected his grooming, which makes him look like a confused hippie or a hobo instead of a well-adjusted, upper-class academic.

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* ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'': The once effervescent and idealistic Xavier we saw in ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' has crumbled into a heap of melancholia and cynicism after 1963. His telepathy, which he had been at ease with since he was 12 years old, has suddenly become a heavy burden that he avoids using at all cost.costs. Charles' social drinking has deteriorated into alcoholism, and he gives up on other activities that he used to enjoy, such as teaching, scientific research and womanizing, in favour of a self-imposed exile from everything that exists beyond his mansion. Xavier has more or less reduced himself into a ManChild who is completely dependent on Hank, when in the other movies, various mutants rely on the paternal telepath for emotional support. Even the way he dresses has changed dramatically; the impeccable suits that define Professor X's style have been replaced by a gaudy paisley shirt paired with a brown leather jacket, or if he's feeling especially lazy, just an undershirt with jeans. Charles has also neglected his grooming, which makes him look like a confused hippie or a hobo instead of a well-adjusted, upper-class academic.
21st Jun '16 3:24:24 AM doorhandle
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]

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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks [[KiAttacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]
21st Jun '16 3:24:04 AM doorhandle
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* ''Manga /JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]

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* ''Manga /JojosBizarreAdventure'': ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]
21st Jun '16 3:23:52 AM doorhandle
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** ''Manga /JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]

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** * ''Manga /JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]
21st Jun '16 3:18:05 AM doorhandle
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** ''Manga /JojosBizarreAdventure'': Kars In a physical, rather than a moral sense. At the start of part 2, he's a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Pillar Man]] who's only weaknesses are sunlight and [[Kiattacks Harmon]]. [[spoiler: By the end, not only is he immune to sunlight, but he's immune to harmon and can use it himself, with far more power than any human wielder, thanks to becoming the UltimateLifeForm]]
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