History Main / BayonetYa

29th Dec '16 4:22:09 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* Seen occasionally in ''{{Sharpe}}''. The elite Rifles use longer bayonets for their weapons, which [[InsistentTerminology must be referred]] to when deployed as "fix swords!" rather than "fix bayonets!" as for the musket-wielding regulars[[note]]The Baker rifle was shorter than the standard-issue British muskets of the time. Rifle units were issued longer sword bayonets so that the length of their weapons matched that of regular infantry muskets so that the two different units could work together in formations[[/note]].

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* Seen occasionally in ''{{Sharpe}}''. The elite Rifles use longer bayonets for their weapons, which [[InsistentTerminology must be referred]] to when deployed as "fix swords!" rather than "fix bayonets!" as for the musket-wielding regulars[[note]]The regulars.[[note]]The Baker rifle was shorter than the standard-issue British muskets of the time. Rifle units were issued longer sword bayonets so that the length of their weapons matched that of regular infantry muskets so that the two different units could work together in formations[[/note]].formations[[/note]]



* ''Series/BandofBrothers'' features a badass bayonet charge across a field in Holland. Bull Randleman also duels a German soldier with his bayonet (in reality he was involved in two bayonet duels during the war).

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* ''Series/BandofBrothers'' ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' features a badass bayonet charge across a field in Holland. Bull Randleman also duels a German soldier with his bayonet (in reality he was involved in two bayonet duels during the war).
21st Dec '16 12:36:56 PM DustSnitch
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* Famously used in UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar by the 20th Maine Volunteer Infantry under Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. During the battle of Gettysburg, Chamberlain's troops were suffering heavy casualties and running out of ammo, and he knew they would be unable to defend their vital position on Little Round Top against the approaching Confederate army. So, in a complete {{Badass}} move, he ordered a bayonet charge, which even at the time was considered an old-school textbook maneuver, but which Chamberlain realized could be used as a simultaneous frontal attack and flanking maneuver. The Confederates were utterly cowed and the 20th Maine [[MomentOfAwesome won the day]]. Chamberlain himself received a Medal of Honor for it.

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* Famously used in UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar by the 20th Maine Volunteer Infantry under Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. During the battle of Gettysburg, Chamberlain's troops were suffering heavy casualties and running out of ammo, and he knew they would be unable to defend their vital position on Little Round Top against the approaching Confederate army. So, in a complete {{Badass}} badass move, he ordered a bayonet charge, which even at the time was considered an old-school textbook maneuver, but which Chamberlain realized could be used as a simultaneous frontal attack and flanking maneuver. The Confederates were utterly cowed and the 20th Maine [[MomentOfAwesome won the day]]. Chamberlain himself received a Medal of Honor for it.
5th Dec '16 11:24:20 AM Morgenthaler
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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled to march in formation and fire massed volleys, and little else. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.

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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Alexander Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled to march in formation and fire massed volleys, and little else. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.
31st Oct '16 8:51:11 PM Alceister
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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled only to march in formation and fire massed volleys. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.

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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled only to march in formation and fire massed volleys.volleys, and little else. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.
31st Oct '16 8:49:09 PM Alceister
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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled to march in formation and fire massed volleys. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.

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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled only to march in formation and fire massed volleys. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.
31st Oct '16 8:48:24 PM Alceister
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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled to march in formation and fire massed volleys. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained, combined arms tactics.

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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were primarily composed of infantry drilled to march in formation and fire massed volleys. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained, comprehensively-trained soldiers and combined arms tactics.
23rd Oct '16 3:35:59 PM Alceister
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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career.
*** That is because smoothbore muskets of the era were wildly inaccurate even at close distances, while bayonets are... well, {{squick}}!
*** Russian tactical doctrine has long placed a high importance on the bayonet. During World War II, you'd never hear a Soviet officer saying the Russian equivalent of "fix bayonets"...because the bayonets were ''always'' fixed. The Red Army didn't even issue scabbards for their bayonets, because the place to store them was on the rifle's muzzle, and they were also big fans of the permanently-attached folding bayonet. It was the same for the Imperial Russian Army of World War I. It wasn't until the introduction of assault rifles (in the form of the AK-47) that the bayonet ceased to have a primary role Russian/Soviet doctrine. Indeed, in its initial form the AK-47 didn't ''have'' a bayonet, though this was quickly realized to be a mistake and a bayonet was promptly designed for it.

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** The Russian Field Marshal [[{{Badass}} Alexander]] [[AFatherToHisMen Suvorov]] said, to paraphrase, that the bullet is a fool and the bayonet is wise. He never lost a single battle in his entire military career.
*** That is because smoothbore muskets of the era
career. It worked well during Suvorov's time, when many armies were wildly inaccurate even at close distances, while bayonets are... well, {{squick}}!
primarily composed of infantry drilled to march in formation and fire massed volleys. When the Napoleonic Wars came about however, this attitude had to be shaken off, as it was virtually suicidal in the face of Napoleon's comprehensively-trained, combined arms tactics.
*** Russian tactical doctrine has long placed a high importance on the bayonet.bayonet, in part because of Russia's traditionally large (and varied) pool of manpower, and the resultant difficulties associated with ensuring consistent levels of training. Furthermore, to be well-practiced with any firearm requires a lot of ammunition, and Russia was often short of the latter, well into the 20th century. During World War II, you'd never hear a Soviet officer saying the Russian equivalent of "fix bayonets"... because the bayonets were ''always'' fixed. The Red Army didn't even issue scabbards for their bayonets, because the place to store them was on the rifle's muzzle, and they were also big fans of the permanently-attached folding bayonet. It was the same for the Imperial Russian Army of World War I. It wasn't until the introduction of assault rifles (in the form of the AK-47) that the bayonet ceased to have a primary role Russian/Soviet doctrine. Indeed, in its initial form the AK-47 didn't ''have'' a bayonet, though this was quickly realized to be a mistake and a bayonet was promptly designed for it.
15th Oct '16 7:01:51 PM Drake1703
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* Although rarely used outside ceremonial duty, there were bayonet design for SMG as shown [[http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/submachine_gun_bayonets/submachine_gun_bayonets.html here]].
10th Oct '16 9:32:25 AM Morgenthaler
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** The silver bayonet (the "straight silver") is one of the symbols of the [[GauntsGhosts Tanith First]] Imperial Guard regiment. Imperial Guard's standard-issue lasguns are regularly depicted with bayonets fixed in the tabletop though actual gameplay statistics make it rare for the PunyEarthling Guardsmen having to use them actually win against their usually exotically physically-capable alien opponents - the Tanith First in particular frequently fight against other (more or less) bog-standard human beings serving Chaos when the odds of this are much less likely for the Imperial Guard in the tabletop.

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** The silver bayonet (the "straight silver") is one of the symbols of the [[GauntsGhosts [[Literature/GauntsGhosts Tanith First]] Imperial Guard regiment. Imperial Guard's standard-issue lasguns are regularly depicted with bayonets fixed in the tabletop though actual gameplay statistics make it rare for the PunyEarthling Guardsmen having to use them actually win against their usually exotically physically-capable alien opponents - the Tanith First in particular frequently fight against other (more or less) bog-standard human beings serving Chaos when the odds of this are much less likely for the Imperial Guard in the tabletop.
3rd Oct '16 5:09:49 AM Dontfollowmeman
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* In ''WebVideo/HellsingUltimateAbridged'' a Nazi vampire [[LampshadeHanging lampshades]] Father Anderson's choice of weapon:
--> '''Nazi:''' "[[TooDumbToLive Ve're not scared of you]]! Look at you, you [[TemptingFate don't even know how to use a bayonet]]! It goes on ze gun, [[WhatAnIdiot idiot]]!"
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