History Main / BattleThralls

15th Feb '16 10:24:10 AM Theriocephalus
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** Rome did it for centuries: for their neighbouring Germans, serving in the Roman army was a way to get honour (as they knew that [[TrainingFromHell surviving the training meant you were a badass]]) and improving living conditions for themselves and their families upon discharge (they were allowed to settle inside the borders and got citizenship for themselves and their children). The difference was ''how'' it was done: for most of the time, the barbarians were split up and sent to serve inside units raised from fully Romanized populations, thus isolating potential troublemakers and expose them to Roman values until they adopted them. Sadly a series of civil wars and a major military campaign after emperor Valentinian III's death ended up depleting the Western army, with general Ricimer (commander in chief of the army and, by then, the real power behind the throne) opting to not have the veterans train new recruits raised from inside the empire but to have barbarian tribes replace the destroyed armies. As soon as that was done, Rome lost Spain, Africa and Gaul to the barbarians for good, and the empire in Italy would soon fall to the barbarians in the army deciding they're better off without emperor.

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** Rome did it for centuries: for their neighbouring Germans, serving in the Roman army was a way to get honour (as they knew that [[TrainingFromHell surviving the training meant you were a badass]]) and improving living conditions for themselves and their families upon discharge (they were allowed to settle inside the borders and got citizenship for themselves and their children). The difference was ''how'' it was done: for most of the time, the barbarians were split up and sent to serve inside units raised from fully Romanized populations, thus isolating potential troublemakers and expose them to Roman values until they adopted them. Sadly a series of civil wars and a major military campaign after emperor Valentinian III's death ended up depleting the Western army, with general Ricimer (commander in chief of the army and, by then, the real power behind the throne) opting to not have the veterans train new recruits raised from inside the empire but to have barbarian tribes replace the destroyed armies. As soon as that was done, Rome lost Spain, Africa and Gaul to the barbarians for good, and the empire in Italy would soon fall to the barbarians in the army deciding they're better off without an emperor.



* The reason why the Mongols could show up in great numbers and plow through Muslim and Christian nations ([[Creator/MontyPython nobody expected the Mongol horde!]]) is because they made battle thralls out of every tribes they conquered along the way. And it was a long, ''long'' way.

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* The reason why the Mongols could show up in great numbers and plow through Muslim and Christian nations ([[Creator/MontyPython nobody expected the Mongol horde!]]) is because they made battle thralls out of every tribes tribe they conquered along the way. And it was a long, ''long'' way.
29th Jan '16 4:10:02 AM jormis29
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* ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato 2199'' (the 2012 anime reboot) uses this trope to perform a CerebusRetcon of how the original changed the skin color of the Gamilas (Gamilons for ''Star Blazers'') after the [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil first few enemy commanders were defeated]]; the new version has members of other conquered species serving in the Gamilas military.

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* ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato 2199'' (the 2012 anime reboot) ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato2199'' uses this trope to perform a CerebusRetcon of how the original changed the skin color of the Gamilas (Gamilons for ''Star Blazers'') after the [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil first few enemy commanders were defeated]]; the new version has members of other conquered species serving in the Gamilas military.
29th Jan '16 4:05:43 AM littlebeeper
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* The reason why the Mongols can show up in great numbers and plow through Muslim and Christian nations ([[Creator/MontyPython nobody expected the Mongol horde!]]) is because they made battle thralls out of every tribes they conquered along the way. And it was a long, ''long'' way.

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* The reason why the Mongols can could show up in great numbers and plow through Muslim and Christian nations ([[Creator/MontyPython nobody expected the Mongol horde!]]) is because they made battle thralls out of every tribes they conquered along the way. And it was a long, ''long'' way.
8th Jan '16 10:05:48 PM Vios
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* In ''VideoGame/GemsOfWar'', one of the troops associated with Darkstone is the Thrall; they're presumably not happy to be fighting, and their special move actually hurts them (in addition to other effects).
5th Jan '16 3:11:00 AM jormis29
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* You can recruit such thralls in the ''VideoGame/MedievalTotalWar''. Specifically, the expansion pack, ''Viking Invasion''.
** Still further back, in the ''VideoGame/ShogunTotalWar'' expansion ''Mongol Invasion'', the Mongol's basic, cheap infantry units are basically Korean captives / vassals pressed into service.
* In ''VideoGame/TotalWarAttila'', you can recruit troops from either vassal states or (if you're a Roman empire) from friendly tribes passing through your territory. Also, many of the Persians' default units are (in the fluff) troops raised from particular regional cultures.
* In ''WarriorsOrochi'', the Wei and Wu became LesCollaborateurs and BattleThralls with Orochi

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* You can recruit such thralls in the ''VideoGame/MedievalTotalWar''. Specifically, the expansion pack, ''Viking Invasion''.
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** Still further back, in the ''VideoGame/ShogunTotalWar'' expansion ''Mongol Invasion'', the ''VideoGame/ShogunTotalWar'': The Mongol's basic, cheap infantry units from the ''Mongol Invasion'' expansion are basically Korean captives / vassals captives/vassals pressed into service.
* ** You can recruit thralls in the ''Viking Invasion'' ExpansionPack for ''VideoGame/MedievalTotalWar''.
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In ''VideoGame/TotalWarAttila'', you can recruit troops from either vassal states or (if you're a Roman empire) from friendly tribes passing through your territory. Also, many of the Persians' default units are (in the fluff) troops raised from particular regional cultures.
* In ''WarriorsOrochi'', ''VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi'', the Wei and Wu became LesCollaborateurs and BattleThralls with Orochi
4th Dec '15 2:36:34 PM Willbyr
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* ''SpaceBattleshipYamato 2199'' (the 2012 anime reboot) uses this trope to perform a CerebusRetcon of how the original changed the skin color of the Gamilas (Gamilons for ''StarBlazers'') after the [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil first few enemy commanders were defeated]]; the new version has members of other conquered species serving in the Gamilas military.

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* ''SpaceBattleshipYamato ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato 2199'' (the 2012 anime reboot) uses this trope to perform a CerebusRetcon of how the original changed the skin color of the Gamilas (Gamilons for ''StarBlazers'') ''Star Blazers'') after the [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil first few enemy commanders were defeated]]; the new version has members of other conquered species serving in the Gamilas military.
19th Jul '15 8:33:11 PM DarkHunter
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** The new Band of the Hawk pulls a reversal on them: Kushan soldiers defeated but not killed by them are thrown on the front lines in a similar manner. However, those that manage to survive three battles are offered the chance to swear their loyalty to Griffith and, if they do so, serve as full-fledged members of the Band of the Hawk.

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** The new Band of the Hawk pulls a reversal on them: Kushan soldiers defeated but not killed by them are thrown on the front lines in a similar manner. However, those that manage to survive three battles are offered the chance to swear their loyalty to Griffith and, if they do so, serve as full-fledged become full members of the Band of the Hawk.
19th Jul '15 8:31:07 PM DarkHunter
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* Enslaved Grunts: The Kushan Empire in ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' uses captured enemy soldiers as frontline CannonFodder: They'll get killed if they try to run away, while the enemy may have difficulty shooting their countrymen.

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Enslaved Grunts: The Kushan Empire in ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'' uses captured enemy soldiers as frontline CannonFodder: They'll get killed if they try to run away, while the enemy may have difficulty shooting their countrymen.countrymen.
** The new Band of the Hawk pulls a reversal on them: Kushan soldiers defeated but not killed by them are thrown on the front lines in a similar manner. However, those that manage to survive three battles are offered the chance to swear their loyalty to Griffith and, if they do so, serve as full-fledged members of the Band of the Hawk.
8th Jun '15 5:30:37 AM jormis29
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* ''VideoGame/{{Wonderful 101}}'': TheRival does this to individual champions of 100 different planets, threatening to destroy a world if the champion ever turns traitor or gives up. Interestingly, he has a very high opinion of his minions ("100 of the galaxy's finest") but is too worried that they'll just up and leave the moment their homeworlds are safe. They do, but not before helping him and Centinel save the galaxy from the GETHJERK.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Wonderful 101}}'': ''VideoGame/TheWonderful101'': TheRival does this to individual champions of 100 different planets, threatening to destroy a world if the champion ever turns traitor or gives up. Interestingly, he has a very high opinion of his minions ("100 of the galaxy's finest") but is too worried that they'll just up and leave the moment their homeworlds are safe. They do, but not before helping him and Centinel save the galaxy from the GETHJERK.
8th Jun '15 5:26:24 AM jormis29
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* Barbarian Marauders: Khorne Berserkers in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}''; they're more of a freelance group. If you don't give them enough victims or opportunities to fight, they will gladly turn on you.
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