History Main / BatDeduction

18th Jun '16 12:20:46 AM gewunomox
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* {{ARG}}s often work like a combination of this and TrialAndErrorGameplay. Each clue can be extrapolated from in order to lead to the next, usually in some completely random way. For example, a set of numbers could symbolize any number of different things. Often the only way to figure out where the trail leads is to try every possibility until you find something that looks like another clue.

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* {{ARG}}s {{Alternate Reality Game}}s often work like a combination of this and TrialAndErrorGameplay. Each clue can be extrapolated from in order to lead to the next, usually in some completely random way. For example, a set of numbers could symbolize any number of different things. Often the only way to figure out where the trail leads is to try every possibility until you find something that looks like another clue.
17th Jun '16 11:54:22 AM WillKeaton
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* Justified in ''ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman'', where Batman points out that he ''needs'' to use half-mad logic and bizarre connective leaps to "match wits" with a rotating group of homicidal, delusional sociopaths, or people will die. Likewise, the Joker himself admits that Batman may have driven him to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia apophenia]], as he has to constantly wonder whether or not the Bat will solve anything he plans, no matter how random everything seems.

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* Justified in ''ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman'', where Batman points out that he ''needs'' to use half-mad logic and bizarre connective leaps to "match wits" with a rotating group of homicidal, delusional sociopaths, or people will die. Likewise, the Joker himself admits that Batman may have driven him to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia apophenia]], apophenia,]] as he has to constantly wonder whether or not the Bat will solve anything he plans, no matter how random everything seems.
10th Jun '16 6:56:16 AM LentilSandEater
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** The series was so aware that it was going to rely on this sort of thing that [[InvokedTrope invoking the trope]] formed the backbone of the plot of the ''very third episode''. The Penguin, being out of ideas for a heist, sends a random umbrella to Batman. His plan: Batman will analyze the "clue", use Bat Deduction to figure out what the Penguin is planning, and the Penguin will hear it through the radio transmitter hidden in the umbrella, and then go and commit that crime! A brilliant {{inver|tedTrope}}sion, {{lampshad|eHanging}}ing, and {{subver|tedTrope}}sion all in one, though one wonders how the Penguin figured he would get away with a crime that Batman knew he would commit before he himself did...
*** Simple since he ''knew'' Batman was there already, he was [[CrazyPrepared prepared]] for any problems.

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** The series was so aware that it was going to rely on this sort of thing that [[InvokedTrope invoking the trope]] formed the backbone of the plot of the ''very third episode''. The Penguin, being out of ideas for a heist, sends a random umbrella to Batman. His plan: Batman will analyze the "clue", use Bat Deduction to figure out what the Penguin is planning, and the Penguin will hear it through the radio transmitter hidden in the umbrella, and then go and commit that crime! A brilliant {{inver|tedTrope}}sion, {{lampshad|eHanging}}ing, and {{subver|tedTrope}}sion all in one, though one wonders how the Penguin figured he would get away with a crime that Batman knew he would commit before he himself did...
*** Simple since he ''knew'' Batman was there already, he was [[CrazyPrepared prepared]] for any problems.
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4th Jun '16 3:43:21 PM mariic
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* An early episode of WebAnimation/InternationalMoronPatrol parodied the Series/{{Batman}} show's use of this trope.
3rd Jun '16 9:40:22 PM billybobfred
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** Example: Playing Mage: The Ascension, this troper's character discovered deep tire-tracks in the woods near a demolished tree with a bit of white fur attached. He immediately determined that The Technocracy was experimenting in cybernetically controlling werewolves, and one got loose. He was correct.
29th May '16 11:24:36 PM TheCuza
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** In the episode "Cancelled", a parody of ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the scientist (Jeff, for Jeff Goldblum) would fixate on a random element and follow a completely nonsensical chain of reasoning to come up with the solution. For example:
-->'''Jeff:''' Wait a minute: butt sex!\\
'''Chef:''' Butt sex?!\\
'''Jeff:''' Butt sex requires a lot of lubrication, right? Lubrication. Lubruh... Chupuh... Chupacabra's the, the goat killer of Mexican folklore. Folklore is stories from the past that are often fictionalized. Fictionalized to heighten drama. Drama students! Students at colleges usually have bicycles! Bi, bian, binary. It's binary code!\\
'''Chef:''' ...Who's having butt sex?\\\

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** In A RunningGag in the episode "Cancelled", a parody of ''Film/IndependenceDay'', the scientist (Jeff, for Jeff Goldblum) would fixate on a random element that has nothing to do with the problem whatsoever and follow a completely nonsensical chain of reasoning to come up with reasoning, eventually arriving at the correct solution. For example:
-->'''Jeff:''' Wait a minute: butt sex!\\
buttsex!\\
'''Chef:''' Butt sex?!\\
''[confused]'' Buttsex?\\
'''Jeff:''' Butt sex Buttsex requires a lot of lubrication, right? Lubrication. Lubruh... Chupuh... Chupacabra's the, the goat killer of Mexican folklore. Folklore is stories from the past that are often fictionalized. Fictionalized to heighten drama. Drama students! Students at colleges usually have bicycles! Bi, bian, binary. It's binary code!\\
'''Chef:''' ...'''Chef:''' ''[still confused]'' ...Who's having butt sex?\\\buttsex?\\\
23rd May '16 5:59:13 PM Anddrix
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'''Gordon:''' SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker!\\

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'''Gordon:''' SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker!\\ComicBook/TheJoker!\\
23rd May '16 12:22:38 PM LordQwert
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* In ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'' there's Dementation, the Malkavian exclusive discipline. The third rank allows one to "Gain insight into the nature of something through seemingly random patterns". This effectively allowed players to jump to horrifically far-fetched conclusions on the basis of very scant evidence.
* Tabletop RPGs in general will have characters doing this, since their players will, intentionally or not, inevitably combine in-game knowledge with meta-knowledge. Such meta-knowledge includes assumptions that challenges will be reasonable for the characters, knowledge of obscure monsters, general knowledge about tropes and cliches, and most importantly, understanding what sorts of plots the person running the game is likely to run.
** Example: Playing Mage: The Ascension, this troper's character discovered deep tire-tracks in the woods near a demolished tree with a bit of white fur attached. He immediately determined that The Technocracy was experimenting in cybernetically controlling werewolves, and one got loose. He was correct.
21st May '16 2:29:09 PM Scorntex
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* ''Series/ThatMitchellAndWebbLook:'' According to the "History of Numberwang" sketch, Professor Betrand Russell discovered the theory of Numberwang one morning after staring at a jug for a moment. From there, he managed to deduce how one could determine what is or is not Numberwang. Then he smashed the jug to prevent anyone copying him.
1st May '16 7:29:02 AM Tegid
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* In Film/TheMask Lt. Calloway zeroes in on Stanley as the prime suspect for a bank robbery because he recognized a torn strip of fabric as part of Stanley's pajamas and reasoned that nobody else would have that bad of a fashion sense. Why he reasoned that Stanley would be wearing his pajamas in a fairly popular and exclusive nightclub is anyone's guess, as is how he connected Stanley's presence at the Nightclub to a bank robbery and shootout across town.
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