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* Bar Sinister is a location on Battleworld in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015''.
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* Bar Sinister is a location on Battleworld in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015''.''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' that's naturally under the control of one Mister Sinister, a notorious PungeonMaster.
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** There is another marker of bastardy in the series used by acknowledged bastards of nobles, whether they possess arms or not -- a special surname based on the region of birth. Northmen used "Snow", Riverlanders used "Rivers", Crownlanders used "Waters", etc. As many commoners have no surname at all, even this minor inheritance serves to put lords' bastard children ''slightly'' above the average peasant in terms of social standing.
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** There is another marker of bastardy in the series used by acknowledged bastards of nobles, whether they possess arms or not -- a special surname based on the region of birth. Northmen used use "Snow", Riverlanders used use "Rivers", Crownlanders used use "Waters", etc. As many commoners have no surname at all, even this minor inheritance serves to put lords' bastard children ''slightly'' above the average peasant in terms of social standing.
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* ''Literature/{{Farseer}}'' trilogy, by Creator/RobinHobb: [=FitzChivalry=] is initially given the Farseer arms, of a buck's head, with a red diagonal line to mark his illegitimacy. It's suggested that, while he wouldn't be allowed to wear the royal arms without the line, all he'd have to do was ask and he'd be given his own arms with no such mark, and later this is given to him anyway.
* ''Literature/TheMoonIsAHarshMistress'', Creator/RobertAHeinlein: The flag of the rebel Lunar colonists (most of whom are ex-cons or descendants of ex-cons, as Earth uses the Moon as a penal colony) proudly features a blood-red bar sinister.
* ''Literature/PrinceRoger'': When the titular character, a bastard son of the Empress of Earth, ends up stranded on a hostile planet and, for various reasons, finds himself raising a regiment of the local aliens (The ''Basik's'' Own), he includes a bar sinister in their colours. It doesn't apply to him personally however. The Empire doesn't seem to have any rules regarding bastards and as such he is considered a legal heir to the throne (behind his older half-siblings) despite his parents not being married.
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Literally. ''The Basik's Own'' carries the bar sinister proudly.
* ''Literature/TheMoonIsAHarshMistress'', Creator/RobertAHeinlein: The flag of the rebel Lunar colonists (most of whom are ex-cons or descendants of ex-cons, as Earth uses the Moon as a penal colony) proudly features a blood-red bar sinister.
* ''Literature/PrinceRoger'': When the titular character, a bastard son of the Empress of Earth, ends up stranded on a hostile planet and, for various reasons, finds himself raising a regiment of the local aliens (The ''Basik's'' Own), he includes a bar sinister in their colours. It doesn't apply to him personally however. The Empire doesn't seem to have any rules regarding bastards and as such he is considered a legal heir to the throne (behind his older half-siblings) despite his parents not being married.
-->You bastard.\\
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** Had Jon used his family arms it would have had a white wolf, which is why it's significant that his pet wolf Ghost is an albino. Additionally his sword Longclaw has a white wolf pommel, it originally had a bear (House Mormont's sigil) but Jeor had it changed so it would be a more appropriate gift to Jon.
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** Had Jon used his family arms it would have had a white wolf, which as the Stark arms are a grey wolf on a white field. This is why it's significant that his pet wolf Ghost is an albino. Additionally albino, while his littermates had regular grey coats. Additionally, his sword Longclaw has a white wolf pommel, pommel; it originally had a bear (House Mormont's sigil) sigil), but Jeor had it changed so it would be a more appropriate gift to Jon.
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* In Creator/RobinHobb's ''Literature/{{Farseer}}'' trilogy, [=FitzChivalry=] is initially given the Farseer arms, of a buck's head, with a red diagonal line to mark his illegitimacy. It's suggested that, while he wouldn't be allowed to wear the royal arms without the line, all he'd have to do was ask and he'd be given his own arms with no such mark, and later this is given to him anyway.
* In Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/TheMoonIsAHarshMistress'', the flag of the rebel Lunar colonists (most of whom are ex-cons or descendants of ex-cons, as Earth uses the Moon as a penal colony) proudly features a blood-red bar sinister.
* ''Literature/PrinceRoger'': When the titular character, a bastard son of the Empress of Earth, ends up stranded on a hostile planet and, for various reasons, finds himself raising a regiment of the local aliens (The ''Basik's'' Own), he includes a bar sinister in their colours.
--> You bastard.\\
Literally. ''The Basik's Own'' carries the bar sinister proudly.
** It doesn't apply to him personally however. The Empire doesn't seem to have any rules regarding bastards and as such he is considered a legal heir to the throne (behind his older half-siblings) despite his parents not being married.
* Averted in ''Literature/VillageTales''. The Royal Stuart quarter in the Duke of Taunton's arms are blazoned in the narrative as being within "a bordure compony of Argent and Azure, the true blue compartments of that bordure bearing each a white and Yorkist rose, a rose Argent barbed and seeded proper: a quarter bare of any bend or baton (unlike that in the first quarter of Rory's Badenoch arms, in which the Stuart Royal Arms in their bordure compony of Gules and Or are further debruised by a baton Argent, marking the celebrated 'double bastardy of Badenoch')...." [Rory is the Marquess of Badenoch, a kinsman of the Duke's.]
* In Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/TheMoonIsAHarshMistress'', the flag of the rebel Lunar colonists (most of whom are ex-cons or descendants of ex-cons, as Earth uses the Moon as a penal colony) proudly features a blood-red bar sinister.
* ''Literature/PrinceRoger'': When the titular character, a bastard son of the Empress of Earth, ends up stranded on a hostile planet and, for various reasons, finds himself raising a regiment of the local aliens (The ''Basik's'' Own), he includes a bar sinister in their colours.
--> You bastard.\\
Literally. ''The Basik's Own'' carries the bar sinister proudly.
** It doesn't apply to him personally however. The Empire doesn't seem to have any rules regarding bastards and as such he is considered a legal heir to the throne (behind his older half-siblings) despite his parents not being married.
* Averted in ''Literature/VillageTales''. The Royal Stuart quarter in the Duke of Taunton's arms are blazoned in the narrative as being within "a bordure compony of Argent and Azure, the true blue compartments of that bordure bearing each a white and Yorkist rose, a rose Argent barbed and seeded proper: a quarter bare of any bend or baton (unlike that in the first quarter of Rory's Badenoch arms, in which the Stuart Royal Arms in their bordure compony of Gules and Or are further debruised by a baton Argent, marking the celebrated 'double bastardy of Badenoch')...." [Rory is the Marquess of Badenoch, a kinsman of the Duke's.]
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* Dr. Simon Bar Sinister is the main antagonist in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' cartoon show. Besides being a [[ViewersAreGeniuses highbrow reference]] to [[UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts Simon bar Kokhba]], the name could be translated as "Simon, the Bastard".
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'': Dr. Simon Bar Sinister is the main antagonist in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' cartoon show.antagonist. Besides being a [[ViewersAreGeniuses highbrow reference]] to [[UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts Simon bar Kokhba]], the name could be translated as "Simon, the Bastard".
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* ''Fanfic/ADarkerPath'': Atropos actually carves one of these into Bastard Son's chest, explicitly because it was a symbol for a bastard son back in the day. For bonus points, she uses a bastard sword given to her by the son of a (metaphorical) bastard to do the deed.
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* ''Fanfic/ADarkerPath'': Atropos actually carves one of these into Bastard Son's chest, explicitly because it was a symbol for a bastard son back in the day. For bonus points, she uses a bastard sword given to her by the son of a (metaphorical) bastard to do the deed.
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#There is no standard heraldic symbol for illegitimacy. The baton or bend sinister was used in this way in some places and times, but in other places and times it was completely innocent, and some other indicator was used -- or, depending on the cultural norms, no indicator at all. For instance, in Scottish heraldry, the arms of a bastard were marked by a border around the shield, usually a pattern of alternating white and some other colour, while the French rules varied from region to region, and the Germans rarely ever bothered differencing arms at all.
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#There is no standard heraldic symbol for illegitimacy. The baton or bend sinister was used in this way in some places and times, but in other places and times it was completely innocent, and some other indicator was used -- or, depending on the cultural norms, no indicator at all. For instance, in Scottish heraldry, the arms of a bastard were marked by a border around the shield, usually a pattern of alternating white and some other colour, while the French and Spanish rules varied from depending on the region to region, and time, and the Germans rarely ever bothered differencing arms at all.
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* Dr. Simon Bar Sinister is the main antagonist in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' cartoon show. Besides being a [[ViewersAreGeniuses highbrow reference]] to [[UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts Simon bar Kokhba]], the name [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar could be translated as]] "Simon, the Bastard".
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* Dr. Simon Bar Sinister is the main antagonist in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' cartoon show. Besides being a [[ViewersAreGeniuses highbrow reference]] to [[UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts Simon bar Kokhba]], the name [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar could be translated as]] as "Simon, the Bastard".
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* Dr. Simon Bar Sinister is the main antagonist in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Underdog}}'' cartoon show. Besides being a [[ViewersAreGeniuses highbrow reference]] to [[UsefulNotes/JewishRevolts Simon bar Kokhba]], te the name [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar could be translated as]] "Simon, the Bastard".
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* An icon of a shield with a bend sinister is used to represent bastards in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKings''.
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** There is another marker of bastardy in the series, albeit it can only be used by highborn bastard children -- it is a special surname based on the region of birth. The Northmen used "Snow", the Riverlanders used "Rivers", the Crownlanders used "Waters", etc. Bastard children of smallfolk have no surnames, which makes sense as even legitimate commoners rarely bother with surnames.
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"What does that mean?" she asked.\\
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** The bend sinister was also known, but isn't always used; the reversed color pattern is used nearly always. Not all bastard children, even noble-born acknowledged bastard children, are armigerous: Jon Snow, for example -- though he is a highborn, acknowledged illegitimate son of a lord, is only entitled to the black shield of the Night's Watch since he joined the Watch (and this applies to every member of the Watch, no matter what their status is). There is no evidence of Ramsay Snow, bastard son of Roose Bolton, being armigerous before he was legitimized. However, Walder Rivers, a highborn acknowledged Frey bastard son, has both the bend sinister and the reversed colors.
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** Had Jon used his family arms it would have had a white wolf, which is why it's significant that his pet wolf Ghost is an albino. Additionally his sword Longclaw has a white wolf pommel, it originally had a bear (House Mormont's sigil) but Jeor had it changed so it would be a more appropriate gift to Jon.
** Had Jon used his family arms it would have had a white wolf, which is why it's significant that his pet wolf Ghost is an albino. Additionally his sword Longclaw has a white wolf pommel, it originally had a bear (House Mormont's sigil) but Jeor had it changed so it would be a more appropriate gift to Jon.
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** There is another marker of bastardy in the series, albeit it can only be used by highborn bastard children -- it is a special surname based on the region of birth. The Northmen used "Snow", the Riverlanders used "Rivers", the Crownlanders used "Waters", etc. Bastard children of smallfolk have no surnames.
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* Bar Sinister is a location on Battleworld in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015''.
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** The bend sinister was also known, but isn't always used; the reversed color pattern is used nearly always. Not all bastard children, even noble-born acknowledged bastard children, are armigerous: Jon Snow, for example -- as a highborn illegitimate son of a lord -- is only entitled to the black shield of the Night's Watch since he joined the Night's Watch. There's no evidence of Ramsay Snow being armigerous before he was legitimized. Walder Rivers, a Frey bastard son, however, has both the bend sinister and the reversed colors.
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