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20th Dec '17 9:31:22 PM Lemia
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* ''Film/PitchPerfect'': Bechloe (Beca/Chloe) had always been a popular fan pairing since the first film came out, but the social media advertising for the third film heavily ramped up the ShipTease for it with posters of them embracing and gazing soulfully into each other's eyes and tweets coyly asking "Will Bechloe ever happen?" Much to fans' disappointment, however, Beca and Chloe remained straight in the third film. Beca's actress ''did'' push for a kiss to be filmed between Beca and Chloe, but it wasn't included in the final cut of the film.
26th Sep '17 11:35:59 AM lalalei2001
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** ''Utena'' shocked fans by giving them what they wanted, but through a conclusion that suggested more than it showed. Utena and Anthy are engaged, share a room, share a bed, make a wonderfully handsome couple on campus, and gaze at each other adoringly during the opening credits. Their feelings for each other grow more and more intense as the series progresses. And, in the end, they ''do'' choose each other over any male love interest! [[UnpleasableFanbase Many fans believed, however, that the way it was depicted wasn't explicit enough]], leading to much debate about whether or not Anthy/Utena should be called a canon couple despite the director's [[WordOfGay confirmation that it is]]. Ironically, when TheMovie went on to depict the relationship as explicitly romantic, many fans [[UnpleasableFanbase then claimed to dislike it because it was somehow TOO obvious and thus fanservice]].
** On the other hand, ''Utena'' has a rare male/male version of this trope in the relationship between Mikage and Mamiya. While their initial interactions are unambiguously romantic, it eventually turns out that [[spoiler:Mikage (or better said, Professor Nemuro) was actually in love with Mamiya's older sister Tokiko all along, with his desire to help Mamiya being primarily for Tokiko's sake. Furthermore, the Mamiya seen throughout this story arc is revealed to actually be an illusion acted out by Anthy; the real Mamiya was DeadAllAlong, and the entire "relationship" was nothing more than a ploy by Anthy's brother Akio to manipulate Mikage]].

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** ''Utena'' shocked fans by giving them what they wanted, but through a conclusion that suggested more than it showed. Utena and Anthy are engaged, share a room, share a bed, make a wonderfully handsome couple on campus, and gaze at each other adoringly during the opening credits. Their feelings for each other grow more and more intense as the series progresses. And, in the end, they ''do'' choose each other over any male love interest! [[UnpleasableFanbase Many fans believed, however, that the way it was depicted wasn't explicit enough]], leading to much debate about whether or not Anthy/Utena should be called a canon couple despite the director's [[WordOfGay confirmation that it is]]. Ironically, when TheMovie went on to depict the relationship as explicitly romantic, many fans [[UnpleasableFanbase then claimed to dislike it because it was somehow TOO too obvious and thus fanservice]].
** On the other hand, ''Utena'' has a rare male/male version of this trope in the relationship between Mikage and Mamiya. While their initial interactions are unambiguously romantic, it eventually turns out that [[spoiler:Mikage (or better said, Professor Nemuro) was actually in love with Mamiya's older sister Tokiko all along, with his desire to help Mamiya being primarily for Tokiko's sake. Furthermore, the Mamiya seen throughout this story arc is revealed to actually be an illusion acted out by Anthy; the real Mamiya was DeadAllAlong, and the entire "relationship" was nothing more than a ploy by Anthy's brother Akio to manipulate Mikage]].


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* A major criticism of ''Literature/TheSchoolForGoodAndEvil'' series was this trope, especially in the second and third books. Sophie and Agatha choose each other at the end of the first book, complete with a kiss, and spend a lot of the second and third books going between a FoeRomanceSubtext and LesYay, only for it to be revealed that [[spoiler:they're actually sisters so the subtext is moot]].
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1st Sep '17 2:04:29 PM T3rr0rd0me
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Outside of canon this trope is invoked a lot especially in H-doujins due to a rather persistent tendency for [[MostWritersAreMale male writers]] to be intimidated by the idea of girls who don't find them sexually attractive because they're insecure [[ManChild manchildren]] (though generally only mildly). This is the reason why a disturbingly large number of popular lesbian characters and characters who are popular in part because of their [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship near lesbian tendencies]] are depicted in huge amounts of heterosexual porn with a random [[AuthorAvatar male insert]] or more and very frequently in the form of rape instead of [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with each other]]. Think of it somewhat as the DistaffCounterpart to AllTheGoodMenAreGay except this time, you can get them back on the "home team" so to speak.

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Outside of canon this trope is invoked a lot especially in H-doujins due to a rather persistent tendency for [[MostWritersAreMale male writers]] to be intimidated by the idea of girls who don't find them sexually attractive because they're extremely insecure [[ManChild manchildren]] (though generally only mildly).manchildren]]. This is the reason why a disturbingly large number of popular lesbian characters and characters who are popular in part because of their [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship near lesbian tendencies]] are depicted in huge amounts of heterosexual porn with a random [[AuthorAvatar male insert]] or more and very frequently in the form of rape instead of [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with each other]]. Think of it somewhat as the DistaffCounterpart to AllTheGoodMenAreGay except this time, you can get them back on the "home team" so to speak.
1st Sep '17 1:14:30 AM T3rr0rd0me
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Outside of canon this trope is invoked a lot especially in H-doujins due to a rather persistent tendency for [[MostWritersAreMale male writers]] to be intimidated by the idea of girls who don't find them sexually attractive (though generally only mildly). This is the reason why a disturbingly large number of popular lesbian characters and characters who are popular in part because of their [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship near lesbian tendencies]] are depicted in huge amounts of heterosexual porn with a random [[AuthorAvatar male insert]] or more and very frequently in the form of rape instead of [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with each other]]. Think of it somewhat as the DistaffCounterpart to AllTheGoodMenAreGay except this time, you can get them back on the "home team" so to speak.

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Outside of canon this trope is invoked a lot especially in H-doujins due to a rather persistent tendency for [[MostWritersAreMale male writers]] to be intimidated by the idea of girls who don't find them sexually attractive because they're insecure [[ManChild manchildren]] (though generally only mildly). This is the reason why a disturbingly large number of popular lesbian characters and characters who are popular in part because of their [[RomanticTwoGirlFriendship near lesbian tendencies]] are depicted in huge amounts of heterosexual porn with a random [[AuthorAvatar male insert]] or more and very frequently in the form of rape instead of [[GirlOnGirlIsHot with each other]]. Think of it somewhat as the DistaffCounterpart to AllTheGoodMenAreGay except this time, you can get them back on the "home team" so to speak.
29th Aug '17 11:37:40 AM CosmicFerret
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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'' is very, very, ''very'' homoerotic, which is a major part of its appeal (as it's [[{{Camp}} one of the things that sets it apart from other cinematic-styled games]]). This was not really the focus in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', which, despite the innuendo-laden subplot about Gray Fox, was marketed as a heterosexual love story about Snake and Meryl, but has received increased attention from ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}'' onwards - ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' trailers showed Raiden and Vamp in [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything white-blood-spraying]] OrgasmicCombat, and trailers for ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid V|GroundZeroes}}'' prominently featured Snake and Kaz's AlmostKiss, for example. Despite this, most indication of Snake's bisexuality is kept to acting choices (whether voice or motion capture) or humorous {{Easter Egg}}s, with Snake and Otacon remaining nominally heterosexual (although clear [[TheNotLoveInterest Not-Love Interest]]) characters until the very end. And Kaz is supposed to be a womaniser, something that gets on Snake's nerves enough that Snake has to fight him completely naked with soap flying everywhere. The only same-sex relationships that are utterly, canonically confirmed are: Volgin is having sex with Raikov, Ocelot is in love with Snake (whose degree of reciprocation is ambiguous), and Strangelove was a lover of The Boss. Even Vamp, an openly bisexual character, is only ''rumoured'' to have been involved with Scott Dolph, who he never mentions in the game (outside of a LooseCanon bonus mission); his relationships with Fortune and Naomi are way more important than anything he has with a male character.

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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'' ''VideoGame/MetalGear'' is very, very, ''very'' homoerotic, which is a major part of its appeal (as it's [[{{Camp}} one of the things that sets it apart from other cinematic-styled games]]). This was not really the focus in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'', which, despite the innuendo-laden subplot about Gray Fox, was marketed as a heterosexual love story about Snake and Meryl, but has received increased attention from ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 3|SnakeEater}}'' onwards - ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid 4|GunsOfThePatriots}}'' trailers showed Raiden and Vamp in [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything white-blood-spraying]] OrgasmicCombat, and trailers for ''VideoGame/{{Metal Gear Solid V|GroundZeroes}}'' prominently featured Snake and Kaz's AlmostKiss, for example. Despite this, most indication of Snake's bisexuality is kept to acting choices (whether voice or motion capture) or humorous {{Easter Egg}}s, with Snake and Otacon remaining nominally heterosexual (although clear [[TheNotLoveInterest Not-Love Interest]]) characters until the very end. And Kaz is supposed to be a womaniser, something that gets on Snake's nerves enough that Snake has to fight him completely naked with soap flying everywhere. The only same-sex relationships that are utterly, canonically confirmed are: Volgin is having sex with Raikov, Ocelot is in love with Snake (whose degree of reciprocation is ambiguous), and Strangelove was a lover of The Boss. Even Vamp, an openly bisexual character, is only ''rumoured'' to have been involved with Scott Dolph, who he never mentions in the game (outside of a LooseCanon bonus mission); his relationships with Fortune and Naomi are way more important than anything he has with a male character.
23rd Aug '17 5:02:12 PM Lemia
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* ''Manga/CountCain'' and Godchild: Cain and Riff. There's an author's note about the high percentage of homosexual butlers in Victorian England. Riff is the only one allowed to touch Cain's scars and they have a ton of other intimate HoYay. AND THEN KAORI YUKI CLAIMS THEY HAVE A PLATONIC RELATIONSHIP.
Also, as of volume eight there is conclusive evidence that Cain has never seen Riff without a shirt.

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* ''Manga/CountCain'' and Godchild: Cain and Riff. There's an author's note about the high percentage of homosexual butlers in Victorian England. Riff is the only one allowed to touch Cain's scars and they have a ton of other intimate HoYay. AND THEN KAORI YUKI CLAIMS THEY HAVE A PLATONIC RELATIONSHIP.
Also, as of volume eight there is conclusive evidence that Cain has never seen Riff without
And then Kaori Yuki claims they have a shirt.platonic relationship.
23rd Aug '17 10:15:27 AM Lemia
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* ''Series/TeenWolf'' teased at Stiles [[AmbiguouslyBi potentially being bisexual]] for the first three seasons with the most blatant tease being Stiles responding to an openly bisexual character's query if he likes boys too with a thoughtful silence instead of an outright "no". This was compounded by the show's cast and crew expressing their support of Stiles/Derek, an extremely popular slash pairing in the fandom, with a number of promotional material explicitly referencing or teasing the pairing. Then in season 4, Stiles and Derek both got female love interests and the cast and crew began making statements denouncing the possibility of Stiles/Derek or Stiles being bisexual, leading many fans to accuse them of using the bisexual-Stiles subtext to attract slash shippers but then backpedaling from it when the Stiles/Derek following grew too large for their liking.
14th Aug '17 9:59:10 AM WriterGirl2015
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** Doumeki and Watanuki are another example as they have an incredible amount of HoYay with Doumeki even implied as having feelings for Watanuki but by the series end Doumeki marries a woman and Watanuki is dedicated to waiting forever for the woman he loves to return to the shop.



* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'': Kaneki is established as AmbiguouslyBi as he gets HoYay with a lot of male characters, particularly with Tsukiyama who is pansexual and obsessed with him to the point of "loving Kaneki above all over things" and they get much ShipTease throughout the series with an omake having Kaneki be Cinderella with Tsukiyama as a perverted prince obsessed with eating him. Kaneki seems charmed by Tsukiyama essentially flirting with him to gain his trust and when he's acting in a caring manner to Hinami in an omake Kaneki thinks "What a gentleman. If only he could always be like this." (In regards to Tsukiyama's obsession with wanting to eat him) [[spoiler: Although Kaneki makes emotionally charged statements of requesting Tsukiyama stay by his side until the end while naked it veers towards this as right after the HoYay moment Kaneki mentions Touka who he had sex with and who gave him her parents ring which he shows Tsukiyama. Ultimately, the HoYay ends up being unrequited on Tsukiyama's side as Kaneki has sex with and marries Touka which he informs Yomo and Tsukiyama of. Some fans argue that Kaneki had more interactions with people other than Touka making it seem like the buildup to their romance was rushed and undeveloped. Tsukiyama seems to be crying when Kaneki tells him about his and Touka's engagement but rather than react with jealousy like he did when Touka and Kaneki were together in the initial series he chooses to go the IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy route and organizes the wedding for Kaneki and Touka]]

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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'': Kaneki is established as AmbiguouslyBi as he gets HoYay with a lot of male characters, particularly with Tsukiyama who is pansexual and obsessed with him to the point of "loving Kaneki above all over things" and they get much ShipTease throughout the series with an omake having Kaneki be Cinderella with Tsukiyama as a perverted prince obsessed with eating him. Kaneki seems charmed by Tsukiyama essentially flirting with him to gain his trust and when he's acting in a caring manner to Hinami in an omake Kaneki thinks "What a gentleman. If only he could always be like this." (In regards to Tsukiyama's obsession with wanting to eat him) [[spoiler: Although Kaneki makes emotionally charged statements of requesting Tsukiyama stay by his side until the end while naked it veers towards this as right after the HoYay moment Kaneki mentions Touka who he had sex with and who gave him her parents ring which he shows Tsukiyama. Ultimately, the HoYay ends up being unrequited on Tsukiyama's side as Kaneki has sex with and marries Touka which he informs Yomo and Tsukiyama of. Some fans argue that Kaneki had more interactions with people other than Touka making it seem like the buildup to their romance was rushed and undeveloped. Tsukiyama seems to be crying when Kaneki tells him about his and Touka's engagement but rather than react with jealousy like he did when Touka and Kaneki were together in the initial series he chooses to go the IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy route and organizes the wedding for Kaneki and Touka]]Touka.]]
* ''Manga/CountCain'' and Godchild: Cain and Riff. There's an author's note about the high percentage of homosexual butlers in Victorian England. Riff is the only one allowed to touch Cain's scars and they have a ton of other intimate HoYay. AND THEN KAORI YUKI CLAIMS THEY HAVE A PLATONIC RELATIONSHIP.
Also, as of volume eight there is conclusive evidence that Cain has never seen Riff without a shirt.
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