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20th Jul '16 2:52:27 PM pinkdalek
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* Paul Feig [[WordOfGod said]] of ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 2016}}'' that one of the Ghostbusters is gay, and he'd wanted to put more evidence in the film itself, but the studio didn't want it and so he [[ShrugOfGod isn't allowed to tell us which one]]. The film itself shows Holtzmann flirting with Erin a lot - one scene getting spotlighted in the trailer - but nothing's ever stated and she also hits on Kevin.
15th Jul '16 4:38:40 PM YasminPerry
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** In the fourth episode, ''Pop Chaser'', Mai[[note]]The red-headed girl in the SailorFuku[[/note]] appears to be a lesbian at first, what with her calling Rio OneeSama and initiating the sex scene with her. Later on, she gets raped by Zack, and is in distress for the most of it. However, towards the end, she suddenly ''enjoys'' having sex with him, and even declares at the end she'll marry him, putting to rest her lesbian tendencies.
** In the tenth episode, ''Star Trap'', Kanata & Ran appear to be a positive portrayal of lesbians in a TheyFightCrime relationship. They not only live together, but even have sex with each other for fun. However, the plot is contrived towards to put them in a straight sex scene, thus not making them ''100%'' lesbians, because apparently that would be wrong.

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** In the fourth episode, ''Pop Chaser'', Mai[[note]]The red-headed girl in the SailorFuku[[/note]] appears to be a lesbian at first, what with her calling Rio OneeSama and initiating the sex scene with her. Later on, she gets raped by Zack, and is in distress for the most of it. However, towards the end, she suddenly ''enjoys'' having sex with being raped by him, and even declares at the end she'll marry ''marry'' him, putting to rest her lesbian tendencies.
** In the tenth episode, ''Star Trap'', Kanata & Ran appear to be a positive portrayal of lesbians in a TheyFightCrime relationship. They not only live together, but even have sex with each other for fun. However, the plot is contrived towards to put them in a straight sex scene, thus not making them ''100%'' lesbians, because apparently that would be wrong.
15th Jul '16 4:35:41 PM YasminPerry
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* The classic {{hentai}} series ''Cream Lemon'' does this repeatedly, to frustrating degrees. To wit:
** In the fourth episode, ''Pop Chaser'', Mai[[note]]The red-headed girl in the SailorFuku[[/note]] appears to be a lesbian at first, what with her calling Rio OneeSama and initiating the sex scene with her. Later on, she gets raped by Zack, and is in distress for the most of it. However, towards the end, she suddenly ''enjoys'' having sex with him, and even declares at the end she'll marry him, putting to rest her lesbian tendencies.
** In the tenth episode, ''Star Trap'', Kanata & Ran appear to be a positive portrayal of lesbians in a TheyFightCrime relationship. They not only live together, but even have sex with each other for fun. However, the plot is contrived towards to put them in a straight sex scene, thus not making them ''100%'' lesbians, because apparently that would be wrong.
15th Jul '16 5:28:33 AM pinkdalek
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** Mike Yates would technically be the first canonically bisexual companion, but due to the era it's mostly expressed via innuendo, such as a ''very'' suggestive look at the tea-boy who [[HoneyTrap helped him infiltrate Global Chemicals]]. However, he's also supposed to be attracted to Jo enough to show obvious jealousy towards her husband at their wedding.

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** Mike Yates would technically be the first canonically bisexual companion, but due to the era it's mostly expressed via innuendo, such as a ''very'' suggestive look at the tea-boy who [[HoneyTrap helped him infiltrate Global Chemicals]]. However, he's also supposed to be attracted to Jo enough to show obvious jealousy towards her husband at their wedding.Chemicals]] and a little scene where he flirts with the Brigadier.
11th Jul '16 4:00:36 PM pinkdalek
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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' often did this - while the people making the show were open-minded about the subject (as theatrical people tended to be even in those days), homosexuality was illegal for the first five years of its run and then prohibited from children's television by MoralGuardians for the next ten. Same-sex innuendo was often put in as a means of adding colour to the often programmatic side characters, GettingCrapPastTheRadar, or as a means of poking gentle fun at the Doctor's [[ChasteHero enforced lack of interest]] in women. Naturally, this got it a large LGBTFanbase, and many of its stars (Frasier Hines, Creator/TomBaker, Kate O'Mara, Creator/SophieAldred...) got serious gay-icon cred for their roles in ''Who''.

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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' often did this - while the people making the show were open-minded about the subject (as theatrical people tended to be even in those days), homosexuality was illegal for the first five years of its run and then prohibited from children's television by MoralGuardians for the next ten. Same-sex innuendo was often put in as a means of adding colour to the often programmatic side characters, GettingCrapPastTheRadar, or as a means of poking gentle fun at the Doctor's [[ChasteHero enforced lack of interest]] in women. Naturally, this got it a large LGBTFanbase, and many of its stars (Frasier Hines, Creator/TomBaker, Kate O'Mara, Creator/SophieAldred...) got serious gay-icon cred for their roles in ''Who''. By contrast, the 2005 revival series skips the coy innuendo and allows itself to be ''actually'' gay (with occasional falls into QueerPeopleAreFunny from time to time).
11th Jul '16 3:54:17 PM pinkdalek
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** The Fourth Doctor was designed to be a 'bohemian'. His look and personality were inspired by Aristide Bruant and Oscar Wilde, both famously gay. The character himself never shows any particular interest in men [[note]]apart from, arguably, the time he flirted with the [[UnfortunateCharacterDesign monster shaped like a giant set of male genitals]] in "The Creature from the Pit"[[/note]], but his high-{{Camp}} aesthetic combined with the NoHuggingNoKissing rules of the time were enough to make him an [[LGBTFanbase icon to a whole generation of confused gay teenagers who found little else in pop culture that even gave them room]].
9th Jul '16 11:23:16 AM pinkdalek
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** There's a common fan theory that "Arc of Infinity" is based slightly on the Eurotrash gay porn that was popular in the 80s...
5th Jul '16 11:21:09 AM pinkdalek
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** Mike Yates would technically be the first canonically bisexual companion, but due to the era it's mostly expressed via innuendo, such as a ''very'' suggestive look at the tea-boy who [[HoneyTrap helped him infiltrate Global Chemicals]].
** A common interpretation of "The Brain of Morbius" is that Mehendri Solon (who also has a lot of 'Ancient Greek', SissyVillain and EffeminateMisogynisticGuy coding) is attracted to the Doctor, which makes a good deal of thematic sense considering how it's paralleled to his minion Condo's attraction to Sarah. This might also have been something that was added to justify Solon's [[IdiotPlot nonsensical plan]], which Creator/TerranceDicks had complained about to Creator/RobertHolmes.
** Guiliano in "The Masque of Mandragora" is often considered to be gay, and appears to be in a sort of love triangle between his 'friend' Marco and the Doctor, who Marco jealously dislikes. The Doctor becomes affectionate towards Guiliano (unusual for this Doctor), giving him sympathy and supportive words; and at the end of the story, Guiliano slips the Doctor the salami (literally). The Doctor is pleased, but looks at Sarah and says "I'm afraid I am otherwise committed."

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** Mike Yates would technically be the first canonically bisexual companion, but due to the era it's mostly expressed via innuendo, such as a ''very'' suggestive look at the tea-boy who [[HoneyTrap helped him infiltrate Global Chemicals]].
Chemicals]]. However, he's also supposed to be attracted to Jo enough to show obvious jealousy towards her husband at their wedding.
** A common interpretation of "The Brain of Morbius" is that Mehendri Solon (who also has a lot of 'Ancient Greek', SissyVillain and EffeminateMisogynisticGuy coding) is attracted to the Doctor, which makes a good deal of thematic sense considering how it's paralleled to his minion Condo's attraction to Sarah. This might also have been something that was added to justify Solon's [[IdiotPlot nonsensical plan]], which Creator/TerranceDicks had complained about to the story's writer Creator/RobertHolmes.
** Guiliano in "The Masque of Mandragora" is often considered to be gay, and appears to be in a sort of love triangle between his 'friend' Marco and the Doctor, who Marco jealously dislikes. The Doctor becomes affectionate towards Guiliano (unusual for this Doctor), giving him sympathy and supportive words; when he has an attack of fear; and at the end of the story, Guiliano slips the Doctor the salami (literally). The Doctor is pleased, but looks at then gestures to Sarah with the sausage and says "I'm afraid I am otherwise committed."" Draw your conclusions.
5th Jul '16 11:16:53 AM pinkdalek
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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' often did this - while the people making the show were open-minded about the subject (as theatrical people tended to be even in those days), homosexuality was illegal for the first five years of its run and then prohibited from children's television by MoralGuardians for the next ten. Same-sex innuendo was often put in as a means of adding colour to the often programmatic side characters, GettingCrapPastTheRadar, or as a means of poking gentle fun at the Doctor's [[ChasteHero enforced lack of interest]] in women. Naturally, this got it a large LGBTFanbase, and many of its stars (Creator/FrasierHines, Creator/TomBaker, Creator/KateOMara, Creator/SophieAldred...) got serious GayIcon cred for their roles in ''Who''.
** Creator/PatrickTroughton and Creator/FrasierHines were given a lot of room in how they wanted to play the Doctor and Jamie, and chose to interpret a lot of their scenes as if they were lovers. Particularly of note is the scene in "The War Games" where the Doctor has to look for an item in Jamie's sporran, and starts rooting around in there, with Jamie making appropriate facial expressions. There's also a telesnap of the Doctor looking up Jamie's kilt with an approving expression.

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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' often did this - while the people making the show were open-minded about the subject (as theatrical people tended to be even in those days), homosexuality was illegal for the first five years of its run and then prohibited from children's television by MoralGuardians for the next ten. Same-sex innuendo was often put in as a means of adding colour to the often programmatic side characters, GettingCrapPastTheRadar, or as a means of poking gentle fun at the Doctor's [[ChasteHero enforced lack of interest]] in women. Naturally, this got it a large LGBTFanbase, and many of its stars (Creator/FrasierHines, (Frasier Hines, Creator/TomBaker, Creator/KateOMara, Kate O'Mara, Creator/SophieAldred...) got serious GayIcon gay-icon cred for their roles in ''Who''.
** Creator/PatrickTroughton and Creator/FrasierHines Frasier Hines were given a lot of room in how they wanted to play the Doctor and Jamie, and chose to interpret a lot of their scenes as if they were lovers. Particularly of note is the scene in "The War Games" where the Doctor has to look for an item in Jamie's sporran, and starts rooting around in there, with Jamie making appropriate facial expressions. There's also a telesnap of the Doctor looking up Jamie's kilt with an approving expression.
5th Jul '16 11:15:22 AM pinkdalek
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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' often did this - while the people making the show were open-minded about the subject (as theatrical people tended to be even in those days), homosexuality was illegal for the first five years of its run and then prohibited from children's television by MoralGuardians for the next ten. Same-sex innuendo was often put in as a means of adding colour to the often programmatic side characters, GettingCrapPastTheRadar, or as a means of poking gentle fun at the Doctor's [[ChasteHero enforced lack of interest]] in women. Naturally, this got it a large LGBTFanbase, and many of its stars (Creator/FrasierHines, Creator/TomBaker, Creator/KateOMara, Creator/SophieAldred...) got serious GayIcon cred for their roles in ''Who''.
** Creator/PatrickTroughton and Creator/FrasierHines were given a lot of room in how they wanted to play the Doctor and Jamie, and chose to interpret a lot of their scenes as if they were lovers. Particularly of note is the scene in "The War Games" where the Doctor has to look for an item in Jamie's sporran, and starts rooting around in there, with Jamie making appropriate facial expressions. There's also a telesnap of the Doctor looking up Jamie's kilt with an approving expression.
** Mike Yates would technically be the first canonically bisexual companion, but due to the era it's mostly expressed via innuendo, such as a ''very'' suggestive look at the tea-boy who [[HoneyTrap helped him infiltrate Global Chemicals]].
** A common interpretation of "The Brain of Morbius" is that Mehendri Solon (who also has a lot of 'Ancient Greek', SissyVillain and EffeminateMisogynisticGuy coding) is attracted to the Doctor, which makes a good deal of thematic sense considering how it's paralleled to his minion Condo's attraction to Sarah. This might also have been something that was added to justify Solon's [[IdiotPlot nonsensical plan]], which Creator/TerranceDicks had complained about to Creator/RobertHolmes.
** Guiliano in "The Masque of Mandragora" is often considered to be gay, and appears to be in a sort of love triangle between his 'friend' Marco and the Doctor, who Marco jealously dislikes. The Doctor becomes affectionate towards Guiliano (unusual for this Doctor), giving him sympathy and supportive words; and at the end of the story, Guiliano slips the Doctor the salami (literally). The Doctor is pleased, but looks at Sarah and says "I'm afraid I am otherwise committed."
** The guest characters in "The Stones of Blood" are based heavily on a pair of real-life lesbian socialites of the Victorian era, and a ShoutOut to their story stays in the script. It never goes further than talking suggestively about 'sausage sandwiches before bed' and one of them excitedly telling Romana about how much fun she can have with a bicycle seat.
** Ace was intended by multiple writers to be bisexual, with her final televised story ("Survival") involving her having a hugely suggestive relationship with a cheetah-girl. When the ExpandedUniverse books came out, Ace became exclusively straight (and very promiscuous).
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