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7th Aug '16 8:13:00 AM Eilevgmyhren
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* Solveig from ''Theatre/PeerGynt'' by Creator/HenrikIbsen. She qualifies by taking down an EldritchAbomination ''twice''. The first time through singing. The second time by just calmly ''sitting there''.
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3rd Aug '16 7:27:34 PM SoapheadChurch
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* [[UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi Mohandas Gandhi]] endured a great deal of hardship while engineering his vision of nonviolent civil disobedience as a means to social change. His activism is considered a major factor in winning India's independence. Gandhi repeatedly insisted that pacifism is a braver action than violence, and even admitted that he found violence preferable to cowardice.
** The full quote is, "It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." Nonviolence must be pursued with zeal, courage and conviction; you must be willing to accept death, injury or imprisonment. If you think fighting is a good idea but you're simply unwilling to risk your life yourself, then you have no place in a nonviolent movement.

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* [[UsefulNotes/MahatmaGandhi Mohandas Gandhi]] endured a great deal of hardship while engineering his vision of nonviolent civil disobedience as a means to social change. His activism is considered a major factor in winning India's independence. Gandhi repeatedly insisted that pacifism is a braver action than violence, and even admitted that he found violence preferable to cowardice.
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cowardice. The full quote is, "It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence." Nonviolence must be pursued with zeal, courage and conviction; you must be willing to accept death, injury or imprisonment. If you think fighting is a good idea but you're simply unwilling to risk your life yourself, then you have no place in a nonviolent movement.



* Nonviolent social movements such as the Indian Independence movement, certain portions of the American CivilRightsMovement (though the Black Panther Party and Malcolm X were hardly the only ones to advocate more violent tactics), and Otpor! in Serbia were essentially ''[[BadassArmy armies]]'' of Badass Pacifists.

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* Nonviolent social movements such as the Indian Independence movement, certain portions of the American CivilRightsMovement (though the Black Panther Party and Malcolm X were hardly the only ones to advocate more violent tactics), CivilRightsMovement, and Otpor! in Serbia were essentially ''[[BadassArmy armies]]'' of Badass Pacifists.



* Military [[TheMedic Medics.]] Under international law, medics are not allowed to engage in combat or be deliberately attacked. They earn a disproportionate number of praise and formal commendations for bravery in combat, the US military-medal for this being the 'Medal of Honour'. Note that medics ''are'' allowed to act in self-defence or in the defense of their patient(s).
** Specifically, the penalty for a medic who engages in offensive action is that the medic's protected status is considered void. Likewise, medical vehicles and personnel have to be clearly identifiable and must conform to many other rules. Against nations or organizations which do not obey the laws of land warfare, this punishment is rather lacking in teeth. In the US' wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, medics did not expect insurgents to refrain from targeting them and line medics rarely refrained from assaulting with their infantrymen.

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* Military [[TheMedic Medics.]] Under international law, medics are not allowed to engage in combat or be deliberately attacked. They earn a disproportionate number of praise and formal commendations for bravery in combat, the US military-medal for this being the 'Medal of Honour'. Note that medics ''are'' allowed to act in self-defence or in the defense of their patient(s).
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patient(s). The penalty for a medic who engages in offensive action is that the medic's protected status is considered void. Likewise, medical vehicles and personnel have to be clearly identifiable and must conform to many other rules. Against nations or organizations which do not obey the laws of land warfare, this punishment is rather lacking in teeth. In the US' wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, medics did not expect insurgents to refrain from targeting them and line medics rarely refrained from assaulting with their infantrymen.



* Similarly, disciples of Mohism were sought after because of their brilliance in military strategy and siege engineering. Why? Because their pacifist philosophy meant that they believed in using defensive warfare to protect smaller states from aggressive warfare.



* American conscientious objectors would often enlist as smoke jumpers during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII [[HonorBeforeReason to prove]] that they were not slackers. As most fit young men were gone off to war the forest service was very glad to have them.
** Some British conscientious objectors volunteered as Bevin boys to work in coal mines for similar reasons.

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* American conscientious objectors would often enlist as smoke jumpers during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII [[HonorBeforeReason to prove]] that they were not slackers. As most fit young men were gone off to war the forest service was very glad to have them.
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them. Some British conscientious objectors volunteered as Bevin boys to work in coal mines for similar reasons.
1st Aug '16 12:05:38 PM NoSpoilerz
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*** The quote is "to bring a sword" not "to bring war", which while very possible to interpret militarilistically, can also be used to describe a splitting or a cutting in two. Considering he then goes on to discuss the splitting of family due to loyalty to his message, and Paul's later use of the sword of truth metaphor "splitting bone from marrow" there is good ground to stand on regarding a metaphorical reading. Even more when one considers Jesus' continual criticism and condemnation of violence, this would be the consistent reading.
*** This isn't even an example of "This passage contradicts that Passage". They're the same passage (Luke 22), Jesus states Specifically that they are to buy swords (alongside a purse and a bag) so that they can fulfill the prophesy that the messiah will be numbered amongst the transgressors (criminals). Of note, when the disciples say they have two swords, and Jesus answered "That's enough" which is ridiculous if they are intended to be used to defend twelve men against trained soldiers. The passage then goes on to the actual arrest where Peter cuts off the soldier's ear and is reprimanded for the action. If Jesus was intended the swords to be used for self defense, then reprimanding Peter makes no real sense at all, as that is exactly what he used his sword for. Passages in [[Literature/TheBIble The Bible]] are often ripped out of context like this by both religious and non religious people to say things it clearly was not meant to say.
28th Jul '16 9:32:56 AM LordGro
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28th Jul '16 2:21:50 AM thatmadork
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21st Jul '16 8:06:10 PM dmcreif
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* In 2013, a gunman broke into a school in Georgia ([[NamesTheSame the one in the US, not Asia]]) with an AK-47 type weapon, intending [[WouldHurtAChild to open fire on children]] and first responders. However, front office worker [[http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/us/georgia-school-gunshots/index.html Antoinette Tuff]] stood her ground and... ''talked'' with him, telling him about her own struggles, sympathizing with his anger, and eventually persuading him to put down his gun and give himself up to the police. What could have been [[AdultFear a massacre on the scale of Sandy Hook]] was averted [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome merely with kind words]].

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* In 2013, a gunman broke into a school in Decatur, Georgia ([[NamesTheSame the one in the US, not Asia]]) with an AK-47 type weapon, intending [[WouldHurtAChild to open fire on children]] and first responders. However, front office worker [[http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/21/us/georgia-school-gunshots/index.html Antoinette Tuff]] stood her ground and... ''talked'' with him, telling him about her own struggles, sympathizing with his anger, and eventually persuading him to put down his gun and give himself up to the police. What could have been [[AdultFear a massacre on the scale of Sandy Hook]] was averted [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome merely with kind words]].
20th Jul '16 6:14:49 AM rjd1922
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* For the majority of the game, it is possible to play Norman Jayden from VideoGame/HeavyRain as this.

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* For the majority of the game, it is possible to play Norman Jayden from VideoGame/HeavyRain ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'' as this.



* Harry Mason from ''SilentHillShatteredMemories'' never kills, attacks or otherwise injures the enemies chasing him. That doesn't stop him from being an unstoppable {{Determinator}} when it comes to finding his daughter.
* Murphy Pendleton from ''SilentHillDownpour'' can be portrayed as one if the player chooses to do a PacifistRun through the game. This involves walking straight into the monster-infested town of Silent Hill and coming out completely innocent due to not murdering a single monster encountered. Doing so successfully will result in an achievement/trophy.
* VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}} and VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}} lets you play as one; using guile, intelligence, and charisma, you can do damn near anything, including [[spoiler: talking the ''final boss'' into killing himself]], all without taking a single life or even holding a gun. Also present to a lesser extent in VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, although there are some people you need to kill. It's ''almost'' back in full force in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', able to convince the final boss to back off if you're a good enough talker, but you need to murder at least one person on every route as a quest objective.

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* Harry Mason from ''SilentHillShatteredMemories'' ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'' never kills, attacks or otherwise injures the enemies chasing him. That doesn't stop him from being an unstoppable {{Determinator}} when it comes to finding his daughter.
* Murphy Pendleton from ''SilentHillDownpour'' ''VideoGame/SilentHillDownpour'' can be portrayed as one if the player chooses to do a PacifistRun through the game. This involves walking straight into the monster-infested town of Silent Hill and coming out completely innocent due to not murdering a single monster encountered. Doing so successfully will result in an achievement/trophy.
* VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}} ''VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}}'' and VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}} ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}'' lets you play as one; using guile, intelligence, and charisma, you can do damn near anything, including [[spoiler: talking the ''final boss'' into killing himself]], all without taking a single life or even holding a gun. Also present to a lesser extent in VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}, ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', although there are some people you need to kill. It's ''almost'' back in full force in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', able to convince the final boss to back off if you're a good enough talker, but you need to murder at least one person on every route as a quest objective.



* In ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVSCapcom3'', {{VisualNovel/Phoenix Wright|AceAttorney}} is this. Unlike the rest of the roster, none of his moves are fighting moves in the technical sense. For example, his standing light attack has him showing the opponent some documents, while his crouching light attack has Nick looking for clues on the floor.

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* In ''Ultimate VideoGame/MarvelVSCapcom3'', {{VisualNovel/Phoenix Wright|AceAttorney}} [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix Wright]] is this. Unlike the rest of the roster, none of his moves are fighting moves in the technical sense. For example, his standing light attack has him showing the opponent some documents, while his crouching light attack has Nick looking for clues on the floor.



* The protagonist in VideoGame/{{Undertale}} can be played this way, and the game's storytelling heavily reflects this. [[spoiler:It's even necessary to do this in order to achieve the GoldenEnding.]]

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* The protagonist in VideoGame/{{Undertale}} ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' can be played this way, and the game's storytelling heavily reflects this. [[spoiler:It's even necessary to do this in order to achieve the GoldenEnding.]]
17th Jul '16 11:31:51 AM AHI-3000
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* Reverend Sturdy Harris from ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' episode "Freedom Ride Or Die" is a mountain of a man who leads his Freedom Riders through the American south during the height of the CivilRightsMovement. He and his followers plan of 'Non-Violent Direct Action' leads them to frequently get attacked, but they defend themselves with a martial art that it designed to pacify the attacker without harming them. It's revealed later that, while undeniably badass, Harris was also something of a DeathSeeker.

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* Reverend Sturdy Harris from ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' episode "Freedom Ride Or Die" or Die", is a mountain of a man who leads his Freedom Riders through the American south South during the height of the CivilRightsMovement. UsefulNotes/CivilRightsMovement. He and his followers followers' plan of 'Non-Violent Direct Action' 'non-violent direct action' leads them to getting frequently get attacked, but they defend themselves Sturdy defends himself with a martial art that it is designed to pacify the attacker without harming them. It's revealed later that, while undeniably badass, Harris Sturdy was also something of a FearlessFool or even a DeathSeeker.
9th Jul '16 9:13:27 PM Monsund
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** There's also [[TheHighQueen Exalt Emmeryn]] from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. She started by ascended to the throne at the age of ''9'' and stopping the genocide started by her father, then turned her hated and warmongering country of Ylisse into the most peaceful and beloved place on the continent. When the war with Gangrel begins, she refuses to back down and goes back to the capital just to reassure her people and make sure they are alright. [[spoiler: And when she gets captured, she [[HeroicSuicide jumps off a cliff]] to stop the Fire Emblem from falling into the wrong hands, managing to convince almost the entirety of Gangrel's army to stop fighting in the process. In the secret Streetpass chapters it's revealed she survived the fall, albeit with some heavy brain damage. Even with that handicap, she manages to escape from a group of kidnapping bandits with little trouble. She can be recruited into your army, where she may become a MartialPacifist depending on what class you make her.]]

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** There's also [[TheHighQueen Exalt Emmeryn]] from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. She started by ascended to the throne at the age of ''9'' and stopping the genocide started by her father, then turned her hated and warmongering country of Ylisse into the most peaceful and beloved place on the continent.9. When the war with Gangrel begins, she refuses to back down and goes back to the capital just to reassure her people and make sure they are alright. [[spoiler: And when she gets captured, she [[HeroicSuicide jumps off a cliff]] to stop the Fire Emblem from falling into the wrong hands, managing to convince almost the entirety of Gangrel's army to stop fighting in the process. In the secret Streetpass chapters it's revealed she survived the fall, albeit with some heavy brain damage. Even with that handicap, she manages to escape from a group of kidnapping bandits the [[ReligionOfEvil The Grimleal]] with little trouble. She can be recruited into your army, where she may become a MartialPacifist depending on what class you make her.fighter, even exterminating the Grimleal which her father failed to do.]]
6th Jul '16 1:52:21 PM Willbyr
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* Vash the Stampede from ''{{Trigun}}''. Anyone who can win so many battles without spilling so much as a drop of blood deserves all kinds of respect.

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* Vash the Stampede from ''{{Trigun}}''.''Manga/{{Trigun}}''. Anyone who can win so many battles without spilling so much as a drop of blood deserves all kinds of respect.



* Yako Katsuragi from ''MajinTanteiNougamiNeuro'' becomes this during the course of the series, able to use her ability to understand people and her sincerity to stop a mind control expert, an AI of nearly unlimited intelligence based off of an Omnidisciplinary scientist, a shape shifting superhuman killer who can read minds, and an entire rebel army. She gains the respect of the most powerful being in the human and demon worlds, and at the end of the manga she has become world famous for her abilities.

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* Yako Katsuragi from ''MajinTanteiNougamiNeuro'' ''Manga/MajinTanteiNougamiNeuro'' becomes this during the course of the series, able to use her ability to understand people and her sincerity to stop a mind control expert, an AI of nearly unlimited intelligence based off of an Omnidisciplinary scientist, a shape shifting superhuman killer who can read minds, and an entire rebel army. She gains the respect of the most powerful being in the human and demon worlds, and at the end of the manga she has become world famous for her abilities.
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