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* In ''Animation/NoonboryAndTheSuper7'', Noonbory is the only member of the Super 7 without any sort of superpower (Mamby is a shapeshifter, and the remaining five all have SuperSenses, one sense power each). He's also surrounded by his wizard grandfather Hanubi, and all four main villains, who each have a super ability (Wangury has an OverlyLongTongue, Coldygury can make snowballs shoot out of his hat, Rosygury has [[GreenThumb nature powers]], and Dozegury can turn invisible). However, Noonbory has a sense of patience, engineering, [[AllLovingHero altruism]], and most importantly, intuition, that puts him in charge of the Super 7.
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This is a SuperTrope of BadassBystander. By definition always on level 1 in SuperWeight.

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This is a SuperTrope of BadassBystander. By definition always on level 1 in SuperWeight.
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** "[[Characters/GreenArrowOliverQueen Green Arrow]] vs. [[Characters/HawkeyeClintBarton Hawkeye]]" [[spoiler:surprisingly Clint is less "normal" and more superhuman than Ollie, given he can wield a 250 pound bow which he can fire at a much faster rate than Oliver can with his bow. This on top of Hawkeye having things like Pym Particles arrows and Adamantium-tipped arrows which trumps Green Arrow's arseal of arrows.]]

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** "[[Characters/GreenArrowOliverQueen Green Arrow]] vs. [[Characters/HawkeyeClintBarton [[Characters/MarvelComicsClintBarton Hawkeye]]" [[spoiler:surprisingly Clint is less "normal" and more superhuman than Ollie, given he can wield a 250 pound bow which he can fire at a much faster rate than Oliver can with his bow. This on top of Hawkeye having things like Pym Particles arrows and Adamantium-tipped arrows which trumps Green Arrow's arseal of arrows.]]
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** "[[Characters/GreenArrowTheCharacter Green Arrow]] vs. [[Characters/HawkeyeTitleCharacter Hawkeye]]" [[spoiler:surprisingly Clint is less "normal" and more superhuman than Ollie, given he can wield a 250 pound bow which he can fire at a much faster rate than Oliver can with his bow. This on top of Hawkeye having things like Pym Particles arrows and Adamantium-tipped arrows which trumps Green Arrow's arseal of arrows.]]

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** "[[Characters/GreenArrowTheCharacter "[[Characters/GreenArrowOliverQueen Green Arrow]] vs. [[Characters/HawkeyeTitleCharacter [[Characters/HawkeyeClintBarton Hawkeye]]" [[spoiler:surprisingly Clint is less "normal" and more superhuman than Ollie, given he can wield a 250 pound bow which he can fire at a much faster rate than Oliver can with his bow. This on top of Hawkeye having things like Pym Particles arrows and Adamantium-tipped arrows which trumps Green Arrow's arseal of arrows.]]



** "ComicBook/{{Venom}} vs [[Characters/BatmanBane Bane]]". [[spoiler:This time the BadassNormal Bane loses '''hard'''. While Bane does have a SuperSerum to boost him slighty above Peak Human levels, he simply had no hope of matching or surviving Venom's phyiscal might which even when depowered could support a weight well in the 200 ton range. This is in addition to the versatility of the Symbiote which Bane despite being a GeniusBruiser had little chance of countering or findering a way to neutralise without prep-time.]]

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** "ComicBook/{{Venom}} "[[Characters/MarvelComicsVenom Venom]] vs [[Characters/BatmanBane Bane]]". [[spoiler:This time the BadassNormal Bane loses '''hard'''. While Bane does have a SuperSerum to boost him slighty above Peak Human levels, he simply had no hope of matching or surviving Venom's phyiscal might which even when depowered could support a weight well in the 200 ton range. This is in addition to the versatility of the Symbiote which Bane despite being a GeniusBruiser had little chance of countering or findering a way to neutralise without prep-time.]]



** "[[Characters/SupermanLexLuthor Lex Luthor]] vs. Characters/DoctorDoom" the BadassNormal in this case Lex [[spoiler: loses. While Lex had the plenty of gadgets to match Victor's and a slighty more impressive PoweredArmour (which included a Motherbox) and speed advatnage, Doom was simply more powerful where it mattered being a sorcerer in addition to having Iron Man-level tech skill. Even if Lex took a Everyman serum which gives [[FlyingBrick Kyrptonian powers]] (abolishing his Badass Normal status) it wouldn't be enough to kill the doctor whose armour has survived beatdowns from the likes of Hulk and Sentry and Lex even with Superman's abilites couldn't counter Doom's more out there gizmos like his Chrome Transmuter, Antimatter Extrapolator and Ovoid Mind Transfer.]]

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** "[[Characters/SupermanLexLuthor Lex Luthor]] vs. Characters/DoctorDoom" [[Characters/MarvelComicsDoctorDoom Doctor Doom]]" the BadassNormal in this case Lex [[spoiler: loses. While Lex had the plenty of gadgets to match Victor's and a slighty more impressive PoweredArmour (which included a Motherbox) and speed advatnage, Doom was simply more powerful where it mattered being a sorcerer in addition to having Iron Man-level tech skill. Even if Lex took a Everyman serum which gives [[FlyingBrick Kyrptonian powers]] (abolishing his Badass Normal status) it wouldn't be enough to kill the doctor whose armour has survived beatdowns from the likes of Hulk and Sentry and Lex even with Superman's abilites couldn't counter Doom's more out there gizmos like his Chrome Transmuter, Antimatter Extrapolator and Ovoid Mind Transfer.]]
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The Badass Normal ''only'' happens as a Muggle to be compared in a world of superpowers, fantastic elements, gods, widespread [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke genetic engineering, tranhumanism]] or other artificial enhancements (like magic). Similarly, just dealing with the inhuman or strange (that's your [[OurZombiesAreDifferent zombies]], [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orcs]], AlienInvasion and other invocations of PunyEarthlings) doesn't suffice unless there was some other superhero who showed how they needed their powers for the same job.

Just because someone was able to kill one SuperSoldier out of ten in the world does not make them a badass normal. Likewise, this is not a character who is ill equipped with outdated technology, even if their enemies are top-of-the-line. Nor do they qualify if they're undertrained while dealing with a superior trained enemy (unless said training confers superpowers/artificial enhancements that the untrained lack). By all means it should be a topic of debate with ''anyone'' they deal with (enemy, ally or even themselves) if their lack of superpowers is an issue with their usefulness.

It's important to note if they have strange or superhuman abilities, they are ''not'' normal. There is no "relatively" when it comes to Badass Normal. It doesn't matter if you can "barely" lift a tank, your ki blasts can "only" level cities, your BioAugmentation is standard issue, or your ability to alter the fabric of reality isn't as developed as others; you're a [[CursedWithAwesome badass with superpowers]]. Not everyone can be the Franchise/{{Batman}} of the setting. A character who chooses not to use their powers in combat (or has powers with no combat application) probably FightsLikeANormal.

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The Badass Normal ''only'' happens as a Muggle to be compared in a world of setting that places [[PunyEarthlings normal human capabilities as trivial]] next to those with superpowers, fantastic aliens, fantasy elements, gods, widespread [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke genetic engineering, tranhumanism]] tranhumanism]], magical powers, [[{{Cyborg}} cybernetics]] or some other artificial enhancements (like magic). Similarly, just form of enhancements. Just dealing with the inhuman or strange (that's your such as [[OurZombiesAreDifferent zombies]], [[OurOrcsAreDifferent orcs]], orcs]] or AlienInvasion and other invocations of PunyEarthlings) doesn't suffice unless there was some other superhero who showed how is an assumption they needed their powers for shouldn't be able to fight back the same job.way they do.

This trope centers around personal capabilities keeping them [[WeakButSkilled relevant against literally enhanced opponents]]. Just because someone was able to kill one a character gets lucky against a single SuperSoldier out of ten in the world does not make them isn't a strong enough qualifier for a badass normal. Likewise, this This is not a character who is about being ill equipped with outdated technology, technology even if their enemies are top-of-the-line. Nor do top-of-the-line, although RockBeatsLaser is a common tactic they qualify if they're undertrained may use. Nor is it being a novice in their training while dealing with a superior trained enemy (unless said training confers superpowers/artificial enhancements that the untrained lack). foe who has mastered it. By all means it this should be a topic of debate with ''anyone'' they deal with (enemy, ally or even themselves) if their lack of superpowers is an issue with their usefulness.

It's important to note if they have strange or superhuman abilities, they are ''not'' normal. There is no "relatively" when it comes to Badass Normal. It doesn't matter if you can "barely" lift a tank, your ki blasts can "only" level cities, your BioAugmentation is standard issue, or your ability to [[RealityWarper alter the fabric of reality reality]] isn't as developed as others; you're a [[CursedWithAwesome badass with superpowers]]. Not everyone can be the Franchise/{{Batman}} of the setting. A character who chooses not to use their powers in combat (or has powers with no combat application) probably FightsLikeANormal.
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** No other pure human listed here holds a damn candle to Kari, the babysitter from ''WesternAnimation/JackJackAttack'' who baby sits the SuperpowerLottery GooGooGodlike Jack Jack for a whole night and survives. Keep in mind Syndrome the aforementioned non-super could not handle Jack Jack’s powers at all while Kari though exhausts her handles the baby till morning. At one point [[https://i.imgur.com/uzHlE9s.gif she causally reacts]] to Jack Jack’s laser-like EyeBeams deflecting them with a mirror.

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** No other pure human listed here holds a damn candle to Kari, the babysitter from from ''WesternAnimation/JackJackAttack'' who baby sits the SuperpowerLottery GooGooGodlike Jack Jack for a whole night and survives. Keep in mind Syndrome the aforementioned non-super could not handle Jack Jack’s powers at all while Kari though it exhausts her handles the baby till morning. At one point [[https://i.imgur.com/uzHlE9s.gif she causally reacts]] to Jack Jack’s laser-like EyeBeams deflecting them with a mirror.
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** No other pure human listed here holds a damn candle to Kari, the babysitter from ''WesternAnimation/JackJackAttack'' who baby sits the SuperpowerLottery GooGooGodlike Jack Jack for a whole night and survives. Keep in mind Syndrome the aforementioned non-super could not handle Jack Jack’s powers at all while Kari though exhausts her handles the baby till morning. At one point [[https://i.imgur.com/uzHlE9s.gif she causally reacts]] to Jack Jack’s laser-like EyeBeams deflecting them with a mirror.
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** "Franchise/{{Batman}} vs. Franchise/SpiderMan". In this case, the Badass Normal [[spoiler:loses. Batman has quite famously beaten superhuman opponents before, but this was with extensive research and tailoring his load-out to specially counter it. Under standard ''Death Battle'' conditions, fighters go in with no prior knowledge and iconic, standard equipment. Against an opponent who is even stronger, tougher and faster than a peak-condition human, who can also nullify his stealth and is just as clever as he is, Batman simply can't make up the difference in raw power.]]

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** "Franchise/{{Batman}} "ComicBook/{{Batman}} vs. Franchise/SpiderMan".ComicBook/SpiderMan". In this case, the Badass Normal [[spoiler:loses. Batman has quite famously beaten superhuman opponents before, but this was with extensive research and tailoring his load-out to specially counter it. Under standard ''Death Battle'' conditions, fighters go in with no prior knowledge and iconic, standard equipment. Against an opponent who is even stronger, tougher and faster than a peak-condition human, who can also nullify his stealth and is just as clever as he is, Batman simply can't make up the difference in raw power.]]

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