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23rd Dec '17 8:30:57 AM PF
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* ''It has at least two large factions, not merely one VocalMinority against a SilentMajority. Each side has a noticeable amount of supporters. In addition, the fanbase must be large enough to support two large factions. An obscure work is less likely to have a broken base than a very famous one or a broad subject.''

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* ''It has at least two large factions, not merely one VocalMinority against a SilentMajority. Each side has a noticeable amount of supporters. In addition, the fanbase must be large enough to support two large the factions. An obscure work is less likely to have a broken base than a very famous one or a broad subject.''
23rd Dec '17 5:53:03 AM HighCrate
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'' fans agree on very little about the whole fictional universe other than that disliking the original trilogy is FandomHeresy. The fandom will likely never stop debating whether the prequel trilogy is good or not, if the sequel trilogy is good or not, whether the prequels or sequels are better, if the canon ExpandedUniverse is good or not, and whether the old ExpandedUniverse (now called Franchise/StarWarsLegends and officially non-canon) was better. Expect TheyChangedItNowItSucks, ItsTheSameSoItSucks, and BaseBreakingCharacter to come up a lot in these discussions, which sometimes get more heated than the twin suns of Tatooine. A common self-deprecating joke/meme among the fandom is "no one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans".
23rd Dec '17 12:58:14 AM modgethanc
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'' fans agree on very little about the whole fictional universe other than that disliking the original trilogy is FandomHeresy. The fandom will likely never stop debating whether the prequel trilogy is good or not, if the sequel trilogy is good or not, whether the prequels or sequels are better, if the canon ExpandedUniverse is good or not, and whether the old ExpandedUniverse (now called Franchise/StarWarsLegends and officially non-canon) was better. Expect TheyChangedItNowItSucks, ItsTheSameSoItSucks, and BaseBreakingCharacter to come up a lot in these discussions, which sometimes get more heated than the twin suns of Tatooine. A common self-deprecating joke/meme among the fandom is "no one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans".
21st Dec '17 3:59:39 AM MCanter89
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* ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'': The casting of Creator/TildaSwinton as the Ancient One has been divisive. While many are glad to have a powerful character be portrayed by a female actor, especially one as accomplished as Swinton, others are upset that the original Tibetan version wasn't used, mostly because the MCU had yet to feature a heroic Asian person in the films.[[note]]The first performer of Asian descent to get BilledAboveTheTitle for an MCU movie, ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'''s half-Filipino [[Wrestling/{{Batista}} Dave Bautista]], did so for playing an alien, Drax the Destroyer.[[/note]] Co-writer C. Robert Cargill's comments on it being done to prevent the movie from being BannedInChina due to a potential positive portrayal of a Tibetan character, which the studio itself later denied, added more controversy. He also didn't help things by accusing all the people upset over it of being "social justice warriors", though he later backpedaled on it and said everyone absolutely has the right to have issues with it.

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* ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'': The casting of Creator/TildaSwinton as the Ancient One has been divisive. While many are glad to have a powerful character be portrayed by a female actor, especially one as accomplished as Swinton, others are upset that the original Tibetan version wasn't used, mostly because the MCU had yet to feature a heroic Asian person in the films.[[note]]The first performer of Asian descent to get BilledAboveTheTitle for an MCU movie, ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'''s half-Filipino [[Wrestling/{{Batista}} Dave Bautista]], did so for playing an alien, Drax the Destroyer.[[/note]] Co-writer C. Robert Cargill's comments on it being done to prevent the movie from being BannedInChina due to a potential positive portrayal of a Tibetan character, which character (which the studio itself later denied, denied) added more controversy. He also didn't help things by accusing all the people upset over it of being "social justice warriors", though he later backpedaled on it and said everyone absolutely has the right to have issues with it.



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12th Dec '17 6:52:50 AM PF
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The characteristics of a Broken Base are the following:
* It is a ''sustained'' conflict that still has fans debating it for months or years to come.
** Corollary: an unreleased or recently-released work cannot have a BrokenBase since such conflicts are short-lived by definition. It should be added once the debate has been confirmed to be a lasting one.
* It is a ''vicious'' conflict: bringing up the subject will likely result in a large number of fans coming in to argue.
* It has ''at least two large factions'', not merely one VocalMinority against a SilentMajority. Each side has a noticeable amount of supporters.
** Corollary: the fan base must be large enough to support two large factions. An obscure work is much less likely to have a Broken Base than a very famous one or a broad subject.
* It is ''divisive'': most fans hold a strong opinion on the subject. There is very little middle ground.

'''All four criteria''' MUST be met to qualify. Minor fandom disagreements are not something that we are interested in documenting.



''When adding examples, please keep in mind that this is not about "fans simply disagreeing about something". It's about an ongoing feud between two or more factions of a fanbase.''

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'''Notes:'''

''When adding examples, please keep in mind of the following:''
* ''It is a sustained conflict
that has fans debating a work or subject. Upcoming works cannot be this is not about "fans simply disagreeing about something". It's about an ongoing feud between two or more factions of a fanbase.since such conflicts are considered to be short-lived by definition. Such examples can be placed under TaintedByThePreview.''
* ''It is a vicious conflict: bringing up the subject will likely result in a huge debate among fans.''
* ''It has at least two large factions, not merely one VocalMinority against a SilentMajority. Each side has a noticeable amount of supporters. In addition, the fanbase must be large enough to support two large factions. An obscure work is less likely to have a broken base than a very famous one or a broad subject.''
* ''It is divisive: most fans hold a strong opinion on the subject. There is very little middle ground.''

''All four criteria must be met to qualify. Minor disagreements don't count.''
14th Nov '17 7:51:40 PM HighCrate
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* BrokenBase/TabletopGames
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* BrokenBase/{{Sports}}
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* BrokenBase/{{Religion}}
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* BrokenBase/{{Radio}}
14th Nov '17 7:20:37 PM HighCrate
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* BrokenBase/ProfessionalWrestling
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