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24th Jun '16 10:29:54 AM MarkLungo
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* The original North American licensor for ''Manga/KeroroGunsou'', ADV Films, intended on getting the show on a children's network like Nickelodeon. Once FUNimation got the license, it was clear that they had no intent to do so, and tried their best to sell it to a modern anime fan by making sure it at least got a PG rating - while some of the show is almost better for it (episode 18 with Natsumi's bleeped ClusterFBomb works better than a Kansai accent for an American audience), sometimes it just feels gratuitous (on one memorable occasion Keroro says "pain in the ass" and the voice actor ''feels'' like he's forcing it). This didn't even work in Nova Scotia, where FUNimation's version still got a G rating.

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* The original North American licensor for ''Manga/KeroroGunsou'', ADV Films, ''Manga/SgtFrog'', Creator/ADVFilms, intended on getting the show on a children's network like Nickelodeon. Once FUNimation Creator/FUNimation got the license, it was clear that they had no intent to do so, and tried their best to sell it to a modern anime fan by making sure it at least got a PG rating - while some of the show is almost better for it (episode 18 with Natsumi's bleeped ClusterFBomb works better than a Kansai accent for an American audience), sometimes it just feels gratuitous (on one memorable occasion Keroro says "pain in the ass" and the voice actor ''feels'' like he's forcing it). This didn't even work in Nova Scotia, where FUNimation's version still got a G rating.
24th Jun '16 9:36:12 AM MarkLungo
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Adding a little swearing makes the film easy to edit for TV or airplane viewings without it interrupting the story. Sometimes stronger profanity is unnecessarily added, or the characters pay an irrelevant and fleeting visit to a strip club, or scenes are made more violent. Content is sometimes added to get an intentional PG-13 rating, or removed from a potential R-rated movie for the same reason. It's all about trying to get a certain audience to watch the film;

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Adding a little swearing makes the film easy to edit for TV or airplane viewings without it interrupting the story. Sometimes stronger profanity is unnecessarily added, or the characters pay an irrelevant and fleeting visit to a strip club, or scenes are made more violent. Content is sometimes added to get an intentional PG-13 rating, or removed from a potential R-rated movie for the same reason. It's all about trying to get a certain audience to watch the film;
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24th Jun '16 9:15:10 AM AtticusOmundson
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->''"I don't know why it's PG. Uh, we're getting in that stupid thing again where it's like, 'Oh, we gotta throw in a swear word or some kind of innuendo,' to be like, you know, 'Oh! We got the PG rating! So, see kids? You know, you don't have to think this is dorky or anything 'cause we got the PG, so we said ''something'' adult!'"''

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->''"I don't know why it's PG. Uh, we're getting in that stupid thing again where it's like, 'Oh, we gotta throw in a swear word or some kind of innuendo,' to be like, you know, 'Oh! We got the PG rating! So, see kids? You know, you don't have to think this is dorky or anything 'cause we got have the PG, so we said ''something'' adult!'"''
24th Jun '16 9:14:08 AM AtticusOmundson
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-->-- '''Creator/DougWalker''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYr6WhxR7s reviewing]] ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory''

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-->-- '''Creator/DougWalker''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYr6WhxR7s [[https://youtu.be/7bYr6WhxR7s?t=634 reviewing]] ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory''
23rd Jun '16 3:56:16 PM AtticusOmundson
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->''"It's not unreasonable to speculate that Creator/WarnerBros, not wanting the film to be tagged with a 'wimpy' PG, added one really bad word to bump the rating up [to PG-13]."''
-->-- '''James Berardinelli''''s [[http://www.reelviews.net/movies/a/avengers.html review]] of ''Film/TheAvengers1998''

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->''"It's not unreasonable to speculate ->''"I don't know why it's PG. Uh, we're getting in that Creator/WarnerBros, not wanting the film stupid thing again where it's like, 'Oh, we gotta throw in a swear word or some kind of innuendo,' to be tagged with a 'wimpy' like, you know, 'Oh! We got the PG rating! So, see kids? You know, you don't have to think this is dorky or anything 'cause we got the PG, added one really bad word to bump the rating up [to PG-13]."''
so we said ''something'' adult!'"''
-->-- '''James Berardinelli''''s [[http://www.reelviews.net/movies/a/avengers.html review]] of ''Film/TheAvengers1998''
'''Creator/DougWalker''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYr6WhxR7s reviewing]] ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory''
10th Jun '16 10:24:13 PM DoctorCooper
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* ''{{Film/Sneakers}}'' is not a kids' movie, nor is it exactly "light, family-friendly fare", but it has very little violence and no sex. In order to prevent the movie from getting a G (or even a PG) rating, which would have been disastrous on several levels, the directors added foul language and some references to sexuality to bump it to PG-13, including a PrecisionFStrike from none other than SidneyPoitier.

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* ''{{Film/Sneakers}}'' is not a kids' movie, nor is it exactly "light, family-friendly fare", but it has very little violence and no sex. In order to prevent the movie from getting a G (or even a PG) rating, which would have been disastrous on several levels, the directors added foul language and some references to sexuality to bump it to PG-13, including a PrecisionFStrike from none other than SidneyPoitier.Creator/SidneyPoitier.
26th May '16 6:42:07 PM Midna
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* ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', which for the most part is fairly appropriate, has both the word "bitch" and Princess Buttercup almost committing suicide towards the end, presumably for this reason.
13th May '16 1:58:40 PM Pichu-kun
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* The film ''Film/TheAstronautsWife'' got an 18 rating in Ireland and the UK. Y'know why? Creator/JohnnyDepp says "cunt". Once. There are a few "fucks" too, but there is no major violence or nudity that would warrant an "adults-only" rating otherwise.
** However, the Irish iTunes Store labels it with a 15 rating, so maybe the IFCO have changed their minds since.

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* The film ''Film/TheAstronautsWife'' got an 18 rating in Ireland and the UK. Y'know why? Creator/JohnnyDepp says "cunt". Once. There are a few "fucks" too, but there is no major violence or nudity that would warrant an "adults-only" rating otherwise. \n** However, the Irish iTunes Store labels it with a 15 rating, so maybe the IFCO have changed their minds since.



* ''[[Film/PromNight2008 Prom Night (2008)]]'' was given a PG-13 rating to attract a younger teen audience, and thus, was almost completely devoid of any and all blood and gore, in contrast to the original ''Film/{{Prom Night|1980}}'', which retains its R-rating to this day.
** In Australia, the remake oddly got the same M (advisory 15+) rating that the original did. The original still carries an M rating as it was last submitted in 1985, which was before the stronger MA 15+ was introduced (1993), which it would most likely earn if it was submitted today.

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* ''[[Film/PromNight2008 Prom Night (2008)]]'' was given a PG-13 rating to attract a younger teen audience, and thus, was almost completely devoid of any and all blood and gore, in contrast to the original ''Film/{{Prom Night|1980}}'', which retains its R-rating to this day.
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day. In Australia, the remake oddly got the same M (advisory 15+) rating that the original did. The original still carries an M rating as it was last submitted in 1985, which was before the stronger MA 15+ was introduced (1993), which it would most likely earn if it was submitted today.



* Creator/{{Paramount}} originally wanted ''WesternAnimation/SouthParkBiggerLongerAndUncut'' to be rated PG-13, but TreyParkerAndMattStone said they wouldn't make it unless it was rated R.
** In an inversion of this trope, Terrence and Phillip were originally going to sing "Mother Fucker", which got the film an NC-17 rating. To make it rated R, the song was changed to "Uncle Fucker". Trey and Matt said the change made the song funnier.
*** Matt and Trey also said that the ping-pong ball scene was edited too in order to avoid the NC-17 rating. Originally, Creator/WinonaRyder actually ''was'' shooting ping-pong balls out of her vagina instead of just looking like it until we finished.

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* Creator/{{Paramount}} originally wanted ''WesternAnimation/SouthParkBiggerLongerAndUncut'' to be rated PG-13, but TreyParkerAndMattStone said they wouldn't make it unless it was rated R.
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R. In an inversion of this trope, Terrence and Phillip were originally going to sing "Mother Fucker", which got the film an NC-17 rating. To make it rated R, the song was changed to "Uncle Fucker". Trey and Matt said the change made the song funnier.
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funnier. Matt and Trey also said that the ping-pong ball scene was edited too in order to avoid the NC-17 rating. Originally, Creator/WinonaRyder actually ''was'' shooting ping-pong balls out of her vagina instead of just looking like it until we finished.



* Inversion: ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' was going to get a Teen rating because it was going to have red blood and depict Maria being shot on-screen. This was on top of the DarkerAndEdgier story, swearing, and gun use, as the game was intended for older fans. The introduction of the E10+ rating gave SEGA an easy out after a backlash to the reveal. The blood color of the alien enemies were changed to green and human enemies merely get incapacitated without bleeding. The game ends the flashback of Maria being shot as soon as we hear the gunshot. and the swearing is cut to down to a load of forced damns.

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* Inversion: ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' was going to get a Teen rating because it was going to have red blood and depict Maria being shot on-screen. This was on top of the DarkerAndEdgier story, swearing, and gun use, as the game was intended for older fans. The introduction of the E10+ rating gave SEGA an easy out after a backlash to the reveal. The blood color of the alien enemies were changed to green and human enemies merely get incapacitated without bleeding. The game ends the flashback of Maria being shot as soon as we hear the gunshot. gunshot, the intro cut out a scene where a soldier was shot, and the swearing is was cut to down to a load of forced damns.
2nd May '16 12:12:31 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* The use of the insult "Penis Breath" (possibly also the [[UranusIsShowing "Uranus" joke]]) in ''Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial'' was Spielberg specifically gunning for the PG rating. Ironic, considering the line was removed in the infamously LighterAndSofter re-release. (The one best known for the walkie-talkie guns)

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* The use of the insult "Penis Breath" (possibly also "penis breath" (along with maybe the [[UranusIsShowing "Uranus" joke]]) in ''Film/ETTheExtraTerrestrial'' was Spielberg specifically gunning for the PG rating. Ironic, considering the line was removed in the infamously LighterAndSofter re-release. (The re-release (the one best known for the walkie-talkie guns)guns).



* The sixth ''Film/HarryPotter'' film was rated "PG" after the two previous installments had merited "PG-13". In the UK, contrary to the trend seen so far on this page, it retained the same 12/12A rating as the fourth and fifth films. Despite the rating, it was arguably the most violent and frightening of any of the movies up to that point. ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'' was later released in ancillary markets as a PG-13. The Harry Potter series is an interesting case, because its ratings history is very messy. The first two films were still considered candidates for a PG-13 rating, and were rated accordingly in countries like Finland, Austria, New Zealand, Brazil, and Peru. Also, ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'', ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows Part 1]]'', and ''Deathly Hallows Part 2'' were reportedly all edited to an extent from an R/15 rating, Mike Newell and various other sources citing "some scenes of violence and emotional intensity" as reasons for the films near R classification. Deathly Hallows Part 1 was even briefly and officially labeled as a 15. Prisoner of Azkaban also ended up receiving an M rating in New Zealand and Australia and the equivalent in many other countries.

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* The sixth ''Film/HarryPotter'' film was rated "PG" after the two previous installments had merited "PG-13". In the UK, contrary to the trend seen so far on this page, it retained the same 12/12A rating as the fourth and fifth films. Despite the rating, it was arguably the most violent and frightening of any of the movies up to that point. ''Film/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'' was later released in ancillary markets as a PG-13. The Harry Potter ''Harry Potter'' series is an interesting case, because its ratings history is very messy. The first two films were still considered candidates for a PG-13 rating, and were rated accordingly in countries like Finland, Austria, New Zealand, Brazil, and Peru. Also, ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire Goblet of Fire]]'', ''[[Film/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows Part 1]]'', and ''Deathly Hallows Part 2'' were reportedly all edited to an extent from an R/15 rating, Mike Newell and various other sources citing "some scenes of violence and emotional intensity" as reasons for the films near R classification. Deathly Hallows Part 1 was even briefly and officially labeled as a 15. Prisoner of Azkaban also ended up receiving an M rating in New Zealand and Australia and the equivalent in many other countries.



* Franchise/IndianaJones occasionally says swearwords ("shit" several times across his movies, what may be a severely muffled "fuck" in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'') probably for this very reason, just to make absolutely sure that movies featuring [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath people melting, people on fire, people getting stabbed by walls, open heart surgery using hands, rapid ageing and]] ''[[{{Gorn}} exploding lightning Nazis]]'' would not be shown to small children. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids Didn't help much]].

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* Franchise/IndianaJones occasionally says swearwords swear words ("shit" several times across his movies, what may be a severely muffled "fuck" in ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'') probably for this very reason, just to make absolutely sure that movies featuring [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath people melting, people on fire, people getting stabbed by walls, open heart surgery using hands, beating hearts being ripped out of chests, rapid ageing ageing, and]] ''[[{{Gorn}} exploding lightning Nazis]]'' would not be shown to small children. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids Didn't help much]].much.]]
2nd May '16 12:08:20 AM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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Later attempts to content-rate other media in the United States used the by-now-obvious shortcomings of the MPAA system as an object lesson. When US television created its ratings in the late 90's, the "G is for Grandma" effect was mentioned specifically, and is almost certainly the motivation for the US TV rating system having both a TV-Y rating ''and'' a TV-G rating: TV-Y is "specifically for kids", and TV-G means "nothing offensive". Similarly, the ESRB ratings for video games, needing to account for both content and playability, have both the "E for Everyone" rating and others for younger age groups (some lower-end E10+ games suffer as well, albeit to a lesser extent). Even though the video game industry is [[RatedMForMoney no stranger to edginess for marketing's sake]], this trope is probably least common in video games. That said, "E for Everyone" changed from its original name, "K-A for Kids to Adults", specifically because games sold better among older gamers when the rating didn't have "kid" in it.

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Later attempts to content-rate other media in the United States used the by-now-obvious shortcomings of the MPAA system as an object lesson. When US television created its ratings in the late 90's, the "G is for Grandma" effect was mentioned specifically, and is almost certainly the motivation for the US TV rating system having both a TV-Y rating ''and'' a TV-G rating: TV-Y is "specifically for kids", and TV-G means "nothing offensive". offensive." Similarly, the ESRB ratings for video games, needing to account for both content and playability, have both the "E for Everyone" rating and others for younger age groups (some lower-end E10+ games suffer as well, albeit to a lesser extent). Even though the video game industry is [[RatedMForMoney no stranger to edginess for marketing's sake]], this trope is probably least common in video games. That said, "E for Everyone" changed from its original name, "K-A for Kids to Adults", specifically because games sold better among older gamers when the rating didn't have "kid" in it.
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