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15th Nov '17 1:31:51 PM Midna
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* ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIII'' was an infamous disappointment for Creator/{{Capcom}}, with one of the most frequently-cited reasons for its failure being that it ditched the majority of the fan favorite characters from ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' in favor of an almost entirely new cast. Capcom subsequently released a new game in the ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha'' prequel series the following year, which featured most of the recognizable characters from ''Street Fighter II'', and later brought back Chun-Li and Akuma in ''Third Strike'', an UpdatedReRelease of ''III''. While a few of the better received characters from ''III'' have since reappeared in the newer games and the ''VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever'' franchise (namely Ibuki, Dudley, Elena, Hugo, Makoto, Yun and Alex), the series has still largely maintained a focus on the characters everyone remembers from ''II''.

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* ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIII'' was an infamous disappointment for Creator/{{Capcom}}, with one of the most frequently-cited reasons for its failure being that it ditched the majority of the fan favorite characters from ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' in favor of an almost entirely new cast. Capcom subsequently released a new game in the ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha'' prequel series the following year, which featured most of the recognizable characters from ''Street Fighter II'', and later brought back Chun-Li and Akuma in ''Third Strike'', an UpdatedReRelease of ''III''. While a few of the better received characters from ''III'' have since reappeared in the newer games and the ''VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever'' franchise (namely Ibuki, Dudley, Elena, Hugo, Makoto, Yun Yun, Alex and Alex), R. Mika), the series has still largely maintained a focus on the characters everyone remembers from ''II''.
11th Nov '17 8:48:54 AM mario0987
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** The Mario franchise faced several accusations of stagnation during the 3DS and Wii U eras with the primary criticisms being an overload of Toads at the expense of other races, the gameplay being based mostly on the 2D Mario games, controversial changes to much loved gameplay styles, generic video game settings and most bosses being the Koopalings or other recurring bosses. ''Odyssey'' has the new Capture mechanic, expansive and unique locations, new [=NPCs=], unique bosses and the returning characters, aside from series staples, [[UnexpectedCharacter is so obscure their presence was an unexpected and welcome sight]].

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** The Mario franchise faced several accusations of stagnation during the 3DS and Wii U eras with the primary criticisms being an overload of Toads at the expense of other races, the gameplay being based mostly on the 2D Mario games, controversial changes to much loved gameplay styles, generic video game settings and most bosses being the Koopalings or other recurring bosses. ''Odyssey'' has the new Capture mechanic, expansive and unique locations, new [=NPCs=], unique bosses and the returning characters, aside from series staples, [[UnexpectedCharacter is are so obscure their presence was an unexpected and welcome sight]].
11th Nov '17 8:47:50 AM mario0987
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** The Mario franchise faced several accusations of stagnation during the 3DS and Wii U eras with the primary criticisms being an overload of Toads at the expense of other races, the gameplay being based mostly on the 2D Mario games, controversial changes to much loved gameplay styles, generic video game settings and most bosses being the Koopalings or other recurring bosses. ''Odyssey'' has the new Capture mechanic, expansive and unique locations, new NPCs, unique bosses and the returning characters, aside from series staples, [[UnexpectedCharacter is so obscure their presence was an unexpected and welcome sight]].

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** The Mario franchise faced several accusations of stagnation during the 3DS and Wii U eras with the primary criticisms being an overload of Toads at the expense of other races, the gameplay being based mostly on the 2D Mario games, controversial changes to much loved gameplay styles, generic video game settings and most bosses being the Koopalings or other recurring bosses. ''Odyssey'' has the new Capture mechanic, expansive and unique locations, new NPCs, [=NPCs=], unique bosses and the returning characters, aside from series staples, [[UnexpectedCharacter is so obscure their presence was an unexpected and welcome sight]].
11th Nov '17 8:36:30 AM mario0987
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* ''VideoGame/SuperMarioOdyssey''
** The Mario franchise faced several accusations of stagnation during the 3DS and Wii U eras with the primary criticisms being an overload of Toads at the expense of other races, the gameplay being based mostly on the 2D Mario games, controversial changes to much loved gameplay styles, generic video game settings and most bosses being the Koopalings or other recurring bosses. ''Odyssey'' has the new Capture mechanic, expansive and unique locations, new NPCs, unique bosses and the returning characters, aside from series staples, [[UnexpectedCharacter is so obscure their presence was an unexpected and welcome sight]].
** Bosses in ''Odyssey'' are much harder than the ones in past 3D ''Mario'' games and [[RecurringBoss Recurring Bosses]] change up their attack patterns, arenas to make rematches different and harder. This is likely in reaction to the criticism bosses in past 3D games were too easy and bosses fought several times were just the same battle over and over again.
6th Nov '17 12:54:49 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
** ''Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened'' used a different Mewtwo over the one from [[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] and [[Anime/PokemonMewtwoReturns its direct sequel]]. This new Mewtwo ended up as quite the BaseBreakingCharacter, and soured many fans. The next movie to reuse past legendaries, ''[[Anime/PokemonHoopaAndTheClashOfAges Hoopa and the Clash of Ages]]'', would heavily imply they were all the same ones that appeared in their original movies ([[UnexplainedRecovery even the one who died]] at the end of ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'').

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* ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'':
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''Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened'' used a different Mewtwo over the one from [[Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie the first movie]] and [[Anime/PokemonMewtwoReturns its direct sequel]]. This new Mewtwo ended up as quite the BaseBreakingCharacter, and soured many fans. The next movie to reuse past legendaries, ''[[Anime/PokemonHoopaAndTheClashOfAges Hoopa and the Clash of Ages]]'', would heavily imply they were all the same ones that appeared in their original movies ([[UnexplainedRecovery even the one who died]] at the end of ''Anime/PokemonHeroes'').
6th Nov '17 12:53:41 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Of course, there are still some people insisting that it's all a Main/ConspiracyTheory to this day.
6th Nov '17 12:25:50 PM RainbowPhoenix
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** Several other complaints about the game's plot were addressed in distant prequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'', successfully enough that ''Berseria'' is now considered required playing to get the most out of ''Zestiria''. Among other things, "Malevolence" was given a much less arcane explanation of its nature and effects without contradicting ''Zestiria'', and the view that [[FusionDance Armatization]] created blatant favortism of the human party members was [[spoiler:[[SureWhyNot embraced and explored to the fullest]] with the unstable, often-fatal early versions of the technique]].

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** Several other complaints about the game's plot were addressed in distant prequel ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'', successfully enough that ''Berseria'' is now considered required playing to get the most out of ''Zestiria''. Among other things, "Malevolence" was given a much less arcane explanation of its nature and effects without contradicting ''Zestiria'', and the view that [[FusionDance Armatization]] created blatant favortism of the human party members was [[spoiler:[[SureWhyNot embraced and explored to the fullest]] with the unstable, often-fatal early versions of the technique]].technique]], while also explaining how Rose was able to use it despite Armatization supposedly being restricted to the Shepherd.
5th Nov '17 3:17:19 PM MagiMecha
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** Mr. Freeze's revival during ''[[ComicBook/{{Knightfall}} Knightquest]]'' was due to this trope - Freeze had been killed by the Joker during ''Robin II: The Joker's Wild'', putting an end to a seemingly lackluster villain. Then ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' came out and "Heart of Ice" suddenly made Freeze popular. When he came back, it was revealed he had a special device in his suit that put him in suspended animation to save his life.
4th Nov '17 9:28:42 PM Slyveocario
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**Of course, there are still some people insisting that it's all a Main/ConspiracyTheory to this day.
30th Oct '17 12:04:58 AM Chabal2
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* ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40K'': Just about every change the fans react negatively to can be handwaved away with "everything we know is InUniverse propaganda or misinformation". For instance, some players disliked the reveal that the Necrons are [[ItCanThink more]] than an unstoppable army of robot zombies, this was countered by claiming that the old characterization was based on a few seriously damaged cases.
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