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7th Mar '17 10:53:06 PM 20person
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* In theory Canada has the British Queen/King as head of State, and he/she is represented by a Governor General who is allowed to exercise most of the monarch's power on their behalf, including the power to appoint anyone to be the Prime Minister. Of course in practice the Governor General simply appoints the leader of the party with the most seats in Parliament and the Governor General is appointed by the monarch on the advice of the Prime Minister (reads: he tells her who to pick), which means the powers of both positions are mostly symbolic.

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* In theory Canada has the British Queen/King as head of State, and he/she is represented by a Governor General who is allowed to exercise most of the monarch's power on their behalf, including the power to appoint anyone to be the Prime Minister. Of course in practice the Governor General simply appoints the leader of the party with the most seats in Parliament and the Governor General is appointed by the monarch on the advice of the Prime Minister (reads: (read: he tells her who to pick), which means the powers of both positions are mostly symbolic.
7th Mar '17 10:51:57 PM 20person
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* Most monarchies have been slowly transitioning towards this over the centuries, with most of the official duties of the crown being ceremonial, and the remainder being things they technically only do when the elected government asks them to do it. For example, the Monarch of England is the only person with the authority to name a Prime Minister, and has the authority to name whoever he/she chooses, whenever he/she chooses, but in practice the Monarch always selects the leader of the party or coalition of parties that controls the House of Commons, and does so only when the party leadership or control of the House of Commons changes.
* In theory Canada has the Queen/King of England as head of State and the Prime Minister is nominated by the Governor General, the monarch's appointee. Of course in practice the Governor simply nominates the party leader with the most elected deputies and the Governor is being chosen by the Queen but on the Prime Minister's advice (reads: he tells her who to pick) which makes both symbolic power in the government.

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* Most monarchies have been slowly transitioning towards this over the centuries, with most of the official duties of the crown being ceremonial, and the remainder being things they technically only do when the elected government asks them to do it. For example, the British Monarch of England is the only person with the authority to name a Prime Minister, and has the authority to name whoever he/she chooses, whenever he/she chooses, but in practice the Monarch always selects the leader of the party or coalition of parties that controls the House of Commons, and does so only when the party leadership or control of the House of Commons changes.
** Parliamentary republics work in a similar way, except that they have ceremonial presidents instead of monarchs.
* In theory Canada has the British Queen/King of England as head of State State, and the Prime Minister he/she is nominated represented by the a Governor General, General who is allowed to exercise most of the monarch's appointee. power on their behalf, including the power to appoint anyone to be the Prime Minister. Of course in practice the Governor General simply nominates appoints the leader of the party leader with the most elected deputies seats in Parliament and the Governor General is being chosen appointed by the Queen but monarch on the advice of the Prime Minister's advice Minister (reads: he tells her who to pick) pick), which makes means the powers of both symbolic power in the government.positions are mostly symbolic.
27th Feb '17 6:48:06 AM LadyNorbert
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* Mayor Doteur in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask'' mostly just sits around saying "uhm...well" while the Captain of the Guard and the lead carpenter argue the issue of whether they should evacuate. Though he ''does'' resolve the issue if Link wears the Couple's Mask to the meeting- by saying "Screw it, the world's ending, do what you want."

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* Mayor Doteur in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask'' mostly just sits around saying "uhm...well" while the Captain of the Guard and the lead carpenter argue the issue of whether they should evacuate. Though he ''does'' resolve the issue if Link wears the Couple's Mask to the meeting- meeting... by saying "Screw it, the world's ending, do what you want."



* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''
** Viscount Dumar should be the most powerful man in Kirkwall, but the word on the street pretty much says Knight-Commander Meredith's the one with the real power. And all around him, extremist clerics, taciturn Qunari and who knows what else threatens his already delicate rule of the powder keg that is Kirkwall and he is unable to do anything about the problems that crop up except to turn to you. A shame, really, since he's the one of the {{Reasonable Authority Figure}}s in the blighted place.
** Grand Cleric Elthina is played up as being a majorly respected power and master of negotiation, but in practice nobody seems to listen to her and she in fact has very little control over what her own clerics do.
** While we haven't gotten to see the place in the series yet, the king of Anderfels has been said to be this trope, with the Grey Wardens having more power. This is apparently a result of Anderfels being amongst the most Darkspawn-infested regions even when a Blight isn't in progress, combined with the Wardens being headquartered in the country.
* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' lets you play as one in a couple situations. Upon entering the settlement of Big Town, you're confronted by a guard, who obviously has no idea what he's doing, who asks who you are. One option is to tell him "I'm the king/queen of the wasteland, what's it to you?". Later you can talk to him again, demanding a new greeting speech that acknowledges your title as royalty.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''
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** The Warden in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' starts out this way. Thanks to a KlingonPromotion, they are technically the Warden-Commander of all of Ferelden... but there's only one other Grey Warden ''in'' Ferelden, and the Warden is only in charge because the other guy doesn't want the job. Even so, being a Grey Warden is normally enough by itself to grant a person a certain amount of clout and respect - but the problem is that in Ferelden, the king has been killed and the bad guy is spreading the word that the Wardens are the ones who did it. Over the course of the game, the Warden has to spread his/her influence sufficiently and gather allies in order to transition from this trope to AsskickingEqualsAuthority.
** In''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'',
Viscount Dumar should be the most powerful man in Kirkwall, but the word on the street pretty much says Knight-Commander Meredith's the one with the real power. And all around him, extremist clerics, taciturn Qunari and who knows what else threatens his already delicate rule of the powder keg that is Kirkwall and he is unable to do anything about the problems that crop up except to turn to you. A shame, really, since he's the one of the {{Reasonable Authority Figure}}s in the blighted place.
** *** Grand Cleric Elthina is played up as being a majorly respected power and master of negotiation, but in practice nobody seems to listen to her and she in fact has very little control over what her own clerics do.
** While we haven't gotten to see the place in the series yet, the king of Anderfels has been said to be this trope, with the Grey Wardens having more power. This is apparently a result of Anderfels being amongst one of the most Darkspawn-infested regions even when a Blight isn't in progress, combined with the Wardens being headquartered in the country.
* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' lets you play as one in a couple situations. Upon entering the settlement of Big Town, you're confronted by a guard, who obviously has no idea what he's doing, who asks who you are. One option is to tell him "I'm the king/queen of the wasteland, what's it to you?". you?" Later you can talk to him again, demanding a new greeting speech that acknowledges your title as royalty.



* ''Webcomic/{{Nukees}}'' has King Luca. At the start of the comic, nobody is sure what he is king of, just that he wears a crown and a fur-lined cape and insists that he be called King Luca. Eventually, his backstory is revealed, and [[spoiler:he does actually own a tiny kingdom of sorts: a tiny tract of land with a swingset on it next to the orphanage he grew up on]].

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* ''Webcomic/{{Nukees}}'' has King Luca. At the start of the comic, nobody is sure what he is king of, just that he wears a crown and a fur-lined cape and insists that he be called King Luca. Eventually, his backstory is revealed, and [[spoiler:he does actually own a tiny kingdom of sorts: a tiny tract of land with a swingset swing set on it next to the orphanage he grew up on]].



* The King of Town, the former TropeNamer in ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'' is treated as a rather loopy old relative who isn't going to let go of his delusions, and he ''does'' own a castle, which he lives in, but he rarely shows any signs of having any kind of authority. In the "Strong Badia the Free" episode of ''VideoGame/StrongBadsCoolGameForAttractivePeople'', however, he imposes a retroactive e-mail tax, and no sooner does Strong Bad find out about it than he is put under house arrest for failing to pay it. Strong Bad and several of the other characters get fed up with him and secede from his rule, addressing him as "The Of Town".

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* The King of Town, the former TropeNamer in ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'' ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner,'' is treated as a rather loopy old relative who isn't going to let go of his delusions, and he ''does'' own and live in a castle, which he lives in, but he rarely shows any signs of having any kind of authority. In the "Strong Badia the Free" episode of ''VideoGame/StrongBadsCoolGameForAttractivePeople'', however, he imposes a retroactive e-mail tax, and no sooner does Strong Bad find out about it than he is put under house arrest for failing to pay it. Strong Bad and several of the other characters get fed up with him and secede from his rule, addressing him as "The Of Town".



* The Mayor of ''Roleplay/InkCity'' presents himself as an UltimateAuthorityMayor, but is generally viewed by the residents as this. It doesn't help that he tends to keep to himself and not interact with anyone unless they manage to hit one of his {{Berserk Button}}s hard enough. When he lies low during the World Split crisis, he gets called out HARD upon his reappearance.

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* The Mayor of ''Roleplay/InkCity'' presents himself as an UltimateAuthorityMayor, but is generally viewed by the residents as this. It doesn't help that he tends to keep to himself and not interact with anyone unless they manage to hit one of his {{Berserk Button}}s hard enough. When he lies low during the World Split crisis, he gets called out HARD ''hard'' upon his reappearance.



* The Blog/KnightsOfFandom have one of these as their leader/founder. There is absolutely no real authority involved in her rank, either as Knight-Commander or as Empress (a nickname she was given which started the whole thing); it's all very symbolic, and mostly respected out of affection.



** He does, however, have at least enough authority to serve as a graduate advisor for Amy Wong. At any university with a graduate program, it's more or less TruthInTelevision that some professors ''don't'' teach classes, they do research and/or supervise grad students doing research[[note]]if you have research grants, the university will generally be more than happy to take your salary out of that money and give you a pass on teaching; if you don't, they're going to expect ''something'' in return for paying you, and usually that's teaching classes[[/note]] (they may occasionally teach a class on their particular specialty, and they generally have a ''lot'' of latitude on the subject matter). Several of the writers for ''Futurama'' hold advanced degrees, and they're writing what they know (the only really startling thing to anyone familiar with graduate schools is that Fry is able to sign up for the class; they're usually closed to undergraduates without special permission from the instructor).

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** He does, however, have at least enough authority to serve as a graduate advisor for Amy Wong. At any university with a graduate program, it's more or less TruthInTelevision that some professors ''don't'' teach classes, they do research and/or supervise grad students doing research[[note]]if you have research grants, the university will generally be more than happy to take your salary out of that money and give you a pass on teaching; if you don't, they're going to expect ''something'' in return for paying you, and usually that's teaching classes[[/note]] (they may occasionally teach a class on their particular specialty, and they generally have a ''lot'' of latitude on the subject matter). Several of the writers for ''Futurama'' hold advanced degrees, and they're [[WriteWhatYouKnow writing what they know (the know]]. The only really startling thing to anyone familiar with graduate schools is that Fry is able to sign up for the class; they're usually closed to undergraduates without special permission from the instructor).instructor.



* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender,'' the Earth King [[AllthereInTheManual came to power at age four]], so naturally his advisers handled most of the government work. Unfortunately one of them, [[EvilChancellor Long Feng]], manipulated events so that the Earth King remained ignorant and powerless even after he reached adulthood. He eventually reasserts his influence, [[spoiler:only for his capital to be quickly conquered by [[BadassPrincess Azula]]]].

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender,'' the Earth King [[AllthereInTheManual came to power at age four]], so naturally his advisers handled most of the government work. Unfortunately Unfortunately, one of them, [[EvilChancellor Long Feng]], manipulated events so that the Earth King remained ignorant and powerless even after he reached adulthood. He eventually reasserts his influence, [[spoiler:only for his capital to be quickly conquered by [[BadassPrincess Azula]]]].



* The Mayor of Hollywood, a position created by the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce to supposedly represent the entertainment industry. The main focus of the job is to appear at Walk of Fame ceremonies and to arrange for lavish yet tacky floral arrangements to be placed on the stars of recently deceased honorees. (Attendance at funerals is also part of the job.) The position has been vacant since the death of Johnny Grant, who in lieu of pay had all his (admittedly modest) needs supplied.

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* The Mayor of Hollywood, a position created by the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce to supposedly represent the entertainment industry. The main focus of the job is to appear at Walk of Fame ceremonies and to arrange for lavish yet tacky floral arrangements to be placed on the stars of recently deceased honorees. (Attendance at funerals is also part of the job.) The position has been vacant since the death of Johnny Grant, who in lieu of pay had all of his (admittedly modest) needs supplied.



* Colonel Harland Sanders, founder of KFC; not a Colonel in any military sense, he was a Kentucky colonels, a title of honor given out by the Commonwealth of Kentucky, given by the governor and the secretary of state to individuals in recognition of noteworthy accomplishments and outstanding service to a community, state or the nation. Sanders was given the honor ''twice'' for his work in the food industry. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_colonel More info on it here.]]

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* Colonel Harland Sanders, founder of KFC; KFC, was not a Colonel in any military sense, sense. Rather, he was a Kentucky colonels, colonel, a title of honor given out by in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, given by the governor and the secretary of state to individuals in recognition of noteworthy accomplishments and outstanding service to a community, state state, or the nation. Sanders was given the honor ''twice'' for his work in the food industry. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_colonel More info on it here.]]



* In theory Canada has the Queen/King of England as head of State and the Prime Minister is nominated by the Governor General, the monarch's appointee. Of course in practice the Governor simply nominates the party leader with the most elected deputies and the Governor is being chosen by the Queen but on the Prime Minister advice (reads: he tells her who to pick) which makes both symbolic power in the government.

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* In theory Canada has the Queen/King of England as head of State and the Prime Minister is nominated by the Governor General, the monarch's appointee. Of course in practice the Governor simply nominates the party leader with the most elected deputies and the Governor is being chosen by the Queen but on the Prime Minister Minister's advice (reads: he tells her who to pick) which makes both symbolic power in the government.
18th Feb '17 9:05:03 AM Rorosilky5
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* ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}''
** King Dedede claims to be the ruler of Dreamland, but the most it gets him is a castle for our pink protagonist to [[StormingTheCastle storm through]] once per game. He seems to have vast independent wealth, but that's about it.
** The [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars anime]] [[TheAnimeOfTheGame version]] makes more of a show of it; he even has a Prime Minister (Cabinet Minister) and the dubious loyalty of Meta Knight, but his rule seems to be even more dubious. In one early episode, he actually plants archaeological evidence that his ancestors were royalty. Meanwhile, the ''actual'' Mayor seems to be the legitimate authority figure, while the Prime Minister doesn't seem to ever do anything beyond being the father of TheKidWithTheLeash.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}''
''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'':
** King Dedede claims to be the ruler of Dreamland, Dream Land, but the most it gets him is a castle for our pink protagonist to [[StormingTheCastle storm through]] once per game. He seems to have vast independent wealth, but that's about it.
** The [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars [[Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa anime]] [[TheAnimeOfTheGame version]] makes more of a show of it; he even has a Prime Minister (Cabinet Minister) and the dubious loyalty of Meta Knight, but his rule seems to be even more dubious. In one early episode, he actually plants archaeological evidence that his ancestors were royalty. Meanwhile, the ''actual'' Mayor seems to be the legitimate authority figure, while the Prime Minister doesn't seem to ever do anything beyond being the father of TheKidWithTheLeash.
18th Jan '17 4:05:34 PM eroock
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-->--'''The King Of Town''', ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''

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-->--'''The -->-- '''The King Of Town''', ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner''
13th Jan '17 9:20:42 AM dmcreif
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* ''Series/TheWire'': Police Commissioner Ervin Burrell is seen as a "hack" by Mayor Clarence Royce, who plans on ousting him and replacing him with Deputy Commissioner Bill Rawls if he's reelected. Tommy Carcetti defeats Royce in the mayoral race, saving Burrell's job. Due to Burrell's failure to bring the matter of a murdered state's witness to the Mayor's attention before it became a campaign issue[[note]]Which had been a major part of Carcetti's election platform[[/note]], Carcetti asks Burrell to resign. Burrell refuses and tells Carcetti that he would have to fire him and that if he leaves, he will not go quietly. Carcetti at the same time can't fire Burrell without having ready an African-American replacement due to the fact that Carcetti himself is a white mayor in a city with a majority black population. Finding a replacement is further complicated by a lack of ranking African-American officers in the department besides Burrell. There is only one African-American Deputy Commissioner named Hawthorne, who is over 70 years old, and no African-American officers over the rank of Colonel. The next highest ranking African-Americans in the department are Majors and Lieutenants, most of whom such as Major Reed are loyal to Burrell and his methods of policing. Carcetti decides to strip Burrell of his power as Commissioner and give all decision making up to Rawls, while leaving Burrell as a figurehead for the press and ministers.
4th Dec '16 2:42:55 PM StarSword
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* Actually subverted in ''Literature/AngelInTheWhirlwind''. The Commonwealth of Tyre is a constitutional monarchy and therefore King Hadrian, while commander-in-chief of the military, has much less legal power than Parliament... ''in peacetime''. In wartime, however, Commonwealth law grants him absolute power, rather like the classical Greek "tyrant". This provision of the War Powers Act has never actually been activated before (because the Commonwealth has never had to declare war before), and Hadrian fully expects it to be amended after the war is over.
19th Nov '16 10:40:43 PM DustSnitch
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* In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', Gunther Arcanus is an undead necromancer who is so admired - and feared - by the other Forsaken that they credit him as a Lich (which is a title in the game) even though he isn't one. Of course, Gunther [[{{Badass}} may well deserve such nomenclature]], seeing as he was able to break free of the Lich King's control via nothing but his own willpower. Complete the quest where you convince him to join the other Forsaken and he may well become their ''actual'' leader, given how he says he plans to teach them necromancy. (Indeed, if Necromancer ever becomes an actual class, he'd likely be a central NPC for it.)

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* In ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', Gunther Arcanus is an undead necromancer who is so admired - and feared - by the other Forsaken that they credit him as a Lich (which is a title in the game) even though he isn't one. Of course, Gunther [[{{Badass}} may well deserve such nomenclature]], nomenclature, seeing as he was able to break free of the Lich King's control via nothing but his own willpower. Complete the quest where you convince him to join the other Forsaken and he may well become their ''actual'' leader, given how he says he plans to teach them necromancy. (Indeed, if Necromancer ever becomes an actual class, he'd likely be a central NPC for it.)
12th Nov '16 1:31:34 PM nombretomado
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** Other notable colonels include HunterSThompson and JohnnyDepp. Thompson also acquired the title of Doctor from the Universal Life Church.

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** Other notable colonels include HunterSThompson Creator/HunterSThompson and JohnnyDepp.Creator/JohnnyDepp. Thompson also acquired the title of Doctor from the Universal Life Church.
7th Nov '16 9:08:21 AM dmcreif
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-->"[[BlatantLies Let's get something straight. Nucky Thompson does not run this city. I do!]]"

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-->"[[BlatantLies -->"[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptQKhjn0HF8&index=94&list=WL Let's get something straight. Nucky Thompson does not run this city. I do!]]"do!]]"
-->''[beat. All of the assembled reporters immediately burst into laughter]''
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