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26th Aug '16 6:45:18 PM storyyeller
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*** At the end of the book, Crichton gives up all pretext and includes a section literally just ranting about his personal views without even bothering to put them in the mouth of a character. He did the same thing again in ''Literature/{{Next}}''.
16th Aug '16 8:17:59 AM tentakkelbj0rn
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* Creator/NealStephenson does this a ''lot''. He keeps you on your toes, too - sometimes he's just rambling about RestorationComedy for no good reason, but sometimes the five-page demonstration of van Eck phreaking will turn out to be a key plot point. Stephenson's filibusters tend to be less telling us about his political views (though that does show up--science and free markets are good, and academic liberalism and postmodernism are bad, according to ''Literature/{{Cryptonomicon}}'', ''Literature/TheBaroqueCycle'', and ''Literature/{{Anathem}}'') and more about his almost obsessive desire to [[ShownTheirWork show his work]] (think the long discussion on Sumerian religion in ''Literature/SnowCrash'').

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* Creator/NealStephenson does this a ''lot''. He keeps you on your toes, too - sometimes he's just rambling about RestorationComedy for no good reason, but sometimes the five-page demonstration of van Eck phreaking will turn out to be a key plot point. Stephenson's filibusters tend to be less telling us about his political views (though that does show up--science and free markets are good, and academic liberalism and postmodernism are bad, according to ''Literature/{{Cryptonomicon}}'', ''Literature/TheBaroqueCycle'', and ''Literature/{{Anathem}}'') and more about his almost obsessive desire to [[ShownTheirWork show his work]] (think the long discussion on Sumerian religion in ''Literature/SnowCrash'').
16th Aug '16 7:35:13 AM Scorpion451
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* Even the greatest authors are not immune to lapsing into this trope- Creator/{{Jules Verne}}'s early "lost novel" ''Literature/ParisInTheTwentiethCentury'' dedicates an entire chapter to explaining why Music/RichardWagner and his imitators had [[RuinedForever Ruined Music Forever]] with their edgy and angsty new style.
2nd Aug '16 5:12:18 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Creator/KarenTraviss does this in her ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' novels (''[[Literature/HaloGlasslands Glasslands]]'', ''[[Literature/HaloTheThursdayWar The Thursday War]]'', and ''[[Literature/HaloMortalDictata Mortal Dictata]]'') regarding Dr. Halsey and the SPARTAN-II program. This is usually done from the viewpoint of Margaret Parangosky, the head of [[StateSec ONI]], and Serin Osman (one of the SPARTAN-[=IIs=] whose augs failed). As far as Parangosky (and Traviss, of course) is concerned, Halsey is Dr. Mengele for having abducted innocent children and replacing them with clones that got sick and died shortly after. Traviss expects the readers to believe that Parangosky, who claims to know ''everything'' that goes on in UNSC and in her own ONI, somehow had no idea that Halsey was planning on using clones instead of simply abducting children (NOTE: she was perfectly fine with abductions, it was cloning that was a problem) for the program. Even Chief Mendez suddenly decides that he has always thought that Halsey was a monster, even though in ''[[Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx Ghosts of Onyx]]'' (different author) he was glad to see her on Onyx. Interestingly, Traviss has no problems with the SPARTAN-III program, because the kids for that program were not abducted but were merely orphans. Just to be clear, Traviss doesn't have a problem with using child soldiers, as long as they're given a choice. What she fails to point out is that these children have recently lost their parents to the Covenant, and ONI is, basically, telling them "Wanna avenge your Mommy and Daddy? Just sign here." Also for reference, the S-2's survival rate is fairly high, whereas the S-3's, which Halsey had no involvement with, were basically cannon fodder who were designed to be cheap and expendable.
** For reference, a good number of ''Halo'' fans hated Traviss's books because of this. This also applies to developers.

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* Creator/KarenTraviss does this in her ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' novels (''[[Literature/HaloGlasslands Glasslands]]'', ''[[Literature/HaloTheThursdayWar The Thursday War]]'', and ''[[Literature/HaloMortalDictata Mortal Dictata]]'') regarding Dr. Halsey and the SPARTAN-II program. This is usually done from the viewpoint of Margaret Parangosky, the head of [[StateSec ONI]], and Serin Osman (one of the SPARTAN-[=IIs=] Spartan-[=IIs=] whose augs failed). As far as Parangosky (and Traviss, of course) is concerned, Halsey is Dr. Mengele for having abducted innocent children and replacing them with clones that got sick and died shortly after. Traviss expects the readers to believe that Parangosky, who claims to know ''everything'' that goes on in both the UNSC and in her own ONI, somehow had no idea that Halsey was planning on using clones instead of simply abducting children (NOTE: she was perfectly fine with abductions, it was cloning that was a problem) for the program. Even Chief Mendez suddenly decides that he has always thought that Halsey was a monster, even though in ''[[Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx Ghosts of Onyx]]'' (different author) he was glad to see her on Onyx.her. Interestingly, Traviss has no problems with the SPARTAN-III program, because the kids for that program were not abducted but were merely orphans. Just to be clear, Traviss doesn't have a problem with using child soldiers, as long as they're given a choice. What she fails to point out is that these children have had recently lost their parents to the Covenant, and ONI is, basically, was basically telling them "Wanna avenge your Mommy and Daddy? Just sign here." Also for reference, the S-2's S-[=IIs=] who survived augmentations went on to have a fairly high survival rate is fairly high, (with most of them surviving into adulthood), whereas the S-3's, S-[=IIIs=], which Halsey had no involvement with, were basically cannon fodder who were designed to be cheap and expendable.
expendable (with most of them dying in their early teens).
** For reference, a good number of ''Halo'' fans hated Traviss's books because of this. This also applies to developers.this, and even Creator/ThreeFourThreeIndustries have somewhat distanced themselves from the most contentious elements of Traviss's novels.
16th Jul '16 4:45:31 PM Doug86
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* The five issues long series ''Comicbook/{{Warrior}}'', a licensed comic about every ProfessionalWrestling fan's favorite crackpot, The UltimateWarrior, is one great big WallOfText after another meant to elucidate the reader on Warrior's bizarre mystical-reactionary philosophy, and paint Warrior as {{Jesus}}. Between the sheer density of the text and the preponderance of made up words (just what in the blue hell is "Destrucity", anyway?)[[note]] The comic actually does provide a definition for the word, but somehow it causes the word to make ''even less'' sense than before.[[/note]], it confused its few readers so badly that both the third and the fourth issues had to open with an explanation of the previous issues (with the recap on the fourth issue being a footnote and unreadable due to being black text on black paper). The one issue this doesn't apply to? The Christmas special, a completely dialog-less issue in which Warrior goes to the North Pole, [[{{Squick}} puts Santa in bondage]], steals his clothes ''[[spoiler:and possibly rapes him]]''. There's a reason that every wrestling fan on the planet has agreed that the guy is nucking futs. It's bad enough to [[http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/bt/spoonyone/reviews/7238-warrior1 mess with the space-time continuum!]]

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* The five issues long series ''Comicbook/{{Warrior}}'', a licensed comic about every ProfessionalWrestling fan's favorite crackpot, The UltimateWarrior, Wrestling/UltimateWarrior, is one great big WallOfText after another meant to elucidate the reader on Warrior's bizarre mystical-reactionary philosophy, and paint Warrior as {{Jesus}}. Between the sheer density of the text and the preponderance of made up words (just what in the blue hell is "Destrucity", anyway?)[[note]] The comic actually does provide a definition for the word, but somehow it causes the word to make ''even less'' sense than before.[[/note]], it confused its few readers so badly that both the third and the fourth issues had to open with an explanation of the previous issues (with the recap on the fourth issue being a footnote and unreadable due to being black text on black paper). The one issue this doesn't apply to? The Christmas special, a completely dialog-less issue in which Warrior goes to the North Pole, [[{{Squick}} puts Santa in bondage]], steals his clothes ''[[spoiler:and possibly rapes him]]''. There's a reason that every wrestling fan on the planet has agreed that the guy is nucking futs. It's bad enough to [[http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/bt/spoonyone/reviews/7238-warrior1 mess with the space-time continuum!]]
10th Jul '16 12:36:52 PM nombretomado
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* Animated web series ''BrokenSaints'', steeped as it is in political and religious themes, comes dangerously close to this several times.

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* Animated web series ''BrokenSaints'', ''WebAnimation/BrokenSaints'', steeped as it is in political and religious themes, comes dangerously close to this several times.
3rd Jul '16 12:48:38 PM Morgenthaler
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* [[TheObiWan Kreia]] in ''Main/StarWars'''':'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII'' has plenty of long-winded complaints and deconstructive analysis of ''everything'' from the morality of the StarWars universe to role-playing mechanics themselves. Chris Avellone has a philosophy degree, and consumed the entire EU before writing the game. He uses Kreia to rail about the things that irritated him, namely the constant HappyEndingOverride and everything being attributed to "the will of the Force." Your character's potential counter-arguments, offered as dialog options, are uniformly weak and poorly-reasoned.

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* [[TheObiWan Kreia]] Kreia in ''Main/StarWars'''':'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII'' has plenty of long-winded complaints and deconstructive analysis of ''everything'' from the morality of the StarWars universe to role-playing mechanics themselves. Chris Avellone has a philosophy degree, and consumed the entire EU before writing the game. He uses Kreia to rail about the things that irritated him, namely the constant HappyEndingOverride and everything being attributed to "the will of the Force." Your character's potential counter-arguments, offered as dialog options, are uniformly weak and poorly-reasoned.
12th Jun '16 12:05:45 AM memememememe
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It's worth noting that writing a work of fiction neither adds nor subtracts evidence from a point of view. It may display evidence, it may make an argument using that evidence, it may convince the reader using that evidence. Authors should remember this, though: ''a work of fiction doesn't prove anything.'' The fact that the author expects us to take their fictional world as instantly applicable to real life is part of what makes this trope so grating.

If this is the climax of the book, it's often a case of TalkingTheMonsterToDeath.

If a character is delivering the rant, it's also a CharacterFilibuster. If the author's opinion is the purpose of the work, it's an AuthorTract. A main cause of DontShootTheMessage. Whether or not any specific reader considers an Author Filibuster a good or bad thing is usually dependent on [[ConfirmationBias whether or not the reader agrees]] with the content of the filibuster, although this is not always the case.

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It's worth noting that writing a work the creation of fiction a story, especially those of works of fiction, may entice readers into receiving the message in an interesting manner but in fact it neither adds nor subtracts evidence from a point of view. It may display evidence, it may make an argument using that evidence, it may convince the reader using that evidence. Authors should remember this, though: ''a work of fiction doesn't prove anything.'' The fact that the author expects us to take their fictional world as instantly applicable to real life is part of what makes this trope so grating.

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grating, but whether or not any specific reader considers an Author Filibuster a good or bad thing is usually dependent on [[ConfirmationBias whether or not the climax reader agrees]] with the content of the book, it's often a case of TalkingTheMonsterToDeath.

If a character is delivering the rant, it's also a CharacterFilibuster.
filibuster.

If the author's opinion is the purpose of the work, it's an AuthorTract.AuthorTract. If this is the climax of the book, it's often a case of TalkingTheMonsterToDeath. If a character is delivering the rant, it's also a CharacterFilibuster. A main cause of DontShootTheMessage. Whether or not any specific reader considers an Author Filibuster a good or bad thing is usually dependent on [[ConfirmationBias whether or not the reader agrees]] with the content of the filibuster, although this is not always the case.\n
4th Jun '16 8:09:24 PM StrixObscuro
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* Even Creator/WilliamShakespeare can fall to this; the middle of ''{{Hamlet}}'' is interrupted by a discussion between Hamlet and the Players that serves no dramatic purpose but to give Hamlet a chance to rant about spoiled child actors and how they're ruining the art and the business of theater today (that is, in 1601).

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* Even Creator/WilliamShakespeare can fall to this; the middle of ''{{Hamlet}}'' ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'' is interrupted by a discussion between Hamlet and the Players that serves no dramatic purpose but to give Hamlet a chance to rant about spoiled child actors and how they're ruining the art and the business of theater today (that is, in 1601).



** Child actors/children in theater is a reference to Boy's Theater, a form of English theater that was outside the patent rules that Shakespeare and his contemporaries had to follow. Only two theaters in ALL of England were legal for centuries (The Admiral's and King's Men); however, Boy's theaters were outside these boundaries and many of the regulations did not apply (also the city of London which hated theater could do nothing against Boy's theater). So, a rant by Shakespeare on the topic of "spoiled" child actors is perfectly valid; they were his biggest competition right next to bear-baiting.

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** Child actors/children in theater is a reference to Boy's Theater, a form of English theater that was outside the patent rules that Shakespeare and his contemporaries had to follow. Only two theaters in ALL of England were legal for centuries (The Admiral's and King's Men); however, Boy's theaters were outside these boundaries and many of the regulations did not apply (also the city of London London, which hated theater theater, could do nothing against Boy's theater). So, a rant by Shakespeare on the topic of "spoiled" child actors is perfectly valid; they were his biggest competition right next to bear-baiting.



** HolyMusicalBatman: Batman gives [[spoiler: Superman]] a pep talk that enthuses about just how awesome superheroes are and defends less serious characters like Robin that tend to get a lot of bashing from fans.

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** HolyMusicalBatman: Theatre/HolyMusicalBatman: Batman gives [[spoiler: Superman]] a pep talk that enthuses about just how awesome superheroes are and defends less serious characters like Robin that tend to get a lot of bashing from fans.



** AVeryPotterSequel: Harry gets a brilliant speech that uses Hogwarts as a metaphor for the whole HarryPotter franchise.

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** AVeryPotterSequel: Theatre/AVeryPotterSequel: Harry gets a brilliant speech that uses Hogwarts as a metaphor for the whole HarryPotter Literature/HarryPotter franchise.



* {{Archer}} seems to do this when Archer and Krieger discuss the former's use of his medical marijuana. Archer, for no reason, goes on about how he endorses and encourages the use of it. Subverted when Krieger asks if he's talking about it's medicinal properties, something Archer didn't even know about.

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* {{Archer}} ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' seems to do this when Archer and Krieger discuss the former's use of his medical marijuana. Archer, for no reason, goes on about how he endorses and encourages the use of it. Subverted when Krieger asks if he's talking about it's medicinal properties, something Archer didn't even know about.about.
** Parodied at the end of a seventh-season episode where, after Archer and Cyril have undertaken (and barely survived) a dangerous job in hopes of getting Sterling's daughter a letter of recommendation to an exclusive private pre-pre-school program, Archer gives a considerable speech to Lana about how, if a child is truly dedicated to their studies, a public-school education can be just as good as a private-school one... then admits, that, really, he just doesn't want to get stuck carpooling their daughter to and from the private school.
4th Jun '16 6:26:10 PM tmustard
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* [[TheObiWan Kreia]] in ''Main/StarWars'''':'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII'' has plenty of long-winded complaints and deconstructive analysis of ''everything'' from the morality of the StarWars universe to role-playing mechanics themselves. Chris Avellone has a philosophy degree, and consumed the entire EU before writing the game. He uses Kreia to rail about the things that irritated him, namely the constant HappyEndingOverride and everything being attributed to "the will of the Force."

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* [[TheObiWan Kreia]] in ''Main/StarWars'''':'' ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicII'' has plenty of long-winded complaints and deconstructive analysis of ''everything'' from the morality of the StarWars universe to role-playing mechanics themselves. Chris Avellone has a philosophy degree, and consumed the entire EU before writing the game. He uses Kreia to rail about the things that irritated him, namely the constant HappyEndingOverride and everything being attributed to "the will of the Force."" Your character's potential counter-arguments, offered as dialog options, are uniformly weak and poorly-reasoned.
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