History Main / AtlasOfMedievalAmerica

25th Mar '14 7:29:29 AM SeptimusHeap
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What its creator Matthew White calls a "surreal history". The site proposes what the United State of America would look like if it was a Middle Ages version of itself. No fantastical elements. No radioactive mutants or wizards. It's strictly what North America would look like, with its current ancestry, religious values and culture would look like given only a medieval level of technology to work with. Because it's [[AfterTheEnd 1000 years into the future]], it doesn't quite count as AlternateHistory, but it largely appeals to that crowd. The [[http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/medvam/index.htm site is here,]], but it has not been updated in [[OrphanedSeries over half a decade]]. ---- !!Trope Examples: * AfterTheEnd: America is in its present state due to an unspecified disaster. * AlienSpaceBats * BigApplesauce: Averted. New York is not nearly the major player it is the modern day, instead being just one coastal port out of many. * ChurchOfHappyology: The Scientologists have taken over California and become the dominant religion. * ContinuationFic: Several have been written by fans. One of the bigger ones is [[http://feudalamerica.blogspot.com/ here]]. * CultureChopSuey: Often the point. It likes to splice American cultures and institutions with historical ones. So we have cowboy barbarians, a [[VestigialEmpire remnant federal government]] that plays the role the Roman Catholic Church did in the Medieval era... * DividedStatesOfAmerica: Naturally. * DeepSouth: Somewhat different from most portrayals, in that African ethnicity and culture made a much more visible mark on the region. However, there are a few flags with the Stars and Bars motif. * FlyoverCountry: Definitely inverted. The Great Plains receive by far the most detail out of any part of the country, with descriptions of the nomadic cowboy culture and the Kingdom of Iowa. * GodEmperor: What rulers in the western deserts appear to be like due to their control over the water supply. * HollywoodCalifornia: One of the "Hydraulic Empires", autocratic regimes that thrive in the desert. * HollywoodVoodoo: No information has been written enough to get it wrong, but it does seems to have largely taken up space in the Gulf Coast (including [[TheBigEasy New Orleans]]), Florida and in the Caribbean. * LadyLand: In the Caribbean, women occupy civil service jobs as the men are away. * UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}}: In the absence of the federal government, the LDS Church establishes a theocracy over Utah, Idaho and Wyoming. And since absolute power is no fun without a harem, they bring back polygamy in the process. * OrphanedSeries: A very strong and frustrating example. * ProudMerchantRace: How the [[VestigialEmpire former U.S.A.]] gets by. * SaintlyChurch: Relatively speaking, the Non-Denominational Church provides social services in the new Dark Ages, sues for peace, and has a republican structure. * TheBigEasy: New Orleans may be the most important trading port on the continent, as it funnels South American goods to the inland fiefdoms. * TheHorde: What the cowboys of the great plains are to everyone else. * TheOtherRainforest: The site of many merchant cities, which largely practice Buddhism. * WhatCouldHaveBeen: There's a stash of images and planned pages that don't go anywhere, so it's evident what the creator was planning at the time. ----
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What its creator Matthew White calls a "surreal history". The site proposes what the United State of America would look like if it was a Middle Ages version of itself. No fantastical elements. No radioactive mutants or wizards. It's strictly what North America would look like, with its current ancestry, religious values and culture would look like given only a medieval level of technology to work with. Because it's [[AfterTheEnd 1000 years into the future]], it doesn't quite count as AlternateHistory, but it largely appeals to that crowd. The [[http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/medvam/index.htm site is here,]], but it has not been updated in [[OrphanedSeries over half a decade]]. ---- !!Trope Examples: * AfterTheEnd: America is in its present state due to an unspecified disaster. * AlienSpaceBats * BigApplesauce: Averted. New York is not nearly the major player it is the modern day, instead being just one coastal port out of many. * ChurchOfHappyology: The Scientologists have taken over California and become the dominant religion. * ContinuationFic: Several have been written by fans. One of the bigger ones is [[http://feudalamerica.blogspot.com/ here]]. * CultureChopSuey: Often the point. It likes to splice American cultures and institutions with historical ones. So we have cowboy barbarians, a [[VestigialEmpire remnant federal government]] that plays the role the Roman Catholic Church did in the Medieval era... * DividedStatesOfAmerica: Naturally. * DeepSouth: Somewhat different from most portrayals, in that African ethnicity and culture made a much more visible mark on the region. However, there are a few flags with the Stars and Bars motif. * FlyoverCountry: Definitely inverted. The Great Plains receive by far the most detail out of any part of the country, with descriptions of the nomadic cowboy culture and the Kingdom of Iowa. * GodEmperor: What rulers in the western deserts appear to be like due to their control over the water supply. * HollywoodCalifornia: One of the "Hydraulic Empires", autocratic regimes that thrive in the desert. * HollywoodVoodoo: No information has been written enough to get it wrong, but it does seems to have largely taken up space in the Gulf Coast (including [[TheBigEasy New Orleans]]), Florida and in the Caribbean. * LadyLand: In the Caribbean, women occupy civil service jobs as the men are away. * UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}}: In the absence of the federal government, the LDS Church establishes a theocracy over Utah, Idaho and Wyoming. And since absolute power is no fun without a harem, they bring back polygamy in the process. * OrphanedSeries: A very strong and frustrating example. * ProudMerchantRace: How the [[VestigialEmpire former U.S.A.]] gets by. * SaintlyChurch: Relatively speaking, the Non-Denominational Church provides social services in the new Dark Ages, sues for peace, and has a republican structure. * TheBigEasy: New Orleans may be the most important trading port on the continent, as it funnels South American goods to the inland fiefdoms. * TheHorde: What the cowboys of the great plains are to everyone else. * TheOtherRainforest: The site of many merchant cities, which largely practice Buddhism. * WhatCouldHaveBeen: There's a stash of images and planned pages that don't go anywhere, so it's evident what the creator was planning at the time. ----[[redirect:Website/AtlasOfMedievalAmerica]]
5th Jun '12 3:28:00 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* CultureChopSuey: Often the point. It likes to splice American cultures and institutions with historical ones. So we have cowboy barbarians, a [[VestigalEmpire remnant federal government]] that plays the role the Roman Catholic Church did in the Medieval era...
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* CultureChopSuey: Often the point. It likes to splice American cultures and institutions with historical ones. So we have cowboy barbarians, a [[VestigalEmpire [[VestigialEmpire remnant federal government]] that plays the role the Roman Catholic Church did in the Medieval era...
5th Jun '12 3:27:24 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* BigApplesauce: King of averted, New York is not nearly the major player it is the modern day. * CultureChopSuey: Often the point. It likes to splice American cultures and institutions with historical ones. So we have cowboy barbarians, a federal government that plays the role the Roman Catholic Church did in the Medieval era... * DividedStatesofAmerica: Naturally.
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* BigApplesauce: King of averted, Averted. New York is not nearly the major player it is the modern day. day, instead being just one coastal port out of many. * ChurchOfHappyology: The Scientologists have taken over California and become the dominant religion. * ContinuationFic: Several have been written by fans. One of the bigger ones is [[http://feudalamerica.blogspot.com/ here]]. * CultureChopSuey: Often the point. It likes to splice American cultures and institutions with historical ones. So we have cowboy barbarians, a [[VestigalEmpire remnant federal government government]] that plays the role the Roman Catholic Church did in the Medieval era... * DividedStatesofAmerica: DividedStatesOfAmerica: Naturally.

* FlyoverCountry: Definitely inverted. White considers the Great Plains to be the most fascinating subject to talk about. * GodEmperor: What rulers in the desert appear to be like.
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* FlyoverCountry: Definitely inverted. White considers the The Great Plains to be receive by far the most fascinating subject to talk about. detail out of any part of the country, with descriptions of the nomadic cowboy culture and the Kingdom of Iowa. * GodEmperor: What rulers in the desert western deserts appear to be like.like due to their control over the water supply.

* HollywoodVoodoo: No information has been written enough to get it wrong, but it does seems to have largely taken up space in the Gulf Coast. * LadyLand: In the Caribbean, women occupy civil service jobs as the men are away.
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* HollywoodVoodoo: No information has been written enough to get it wrong, but it does seems to have largely taken up space in the Gulf Coast. Coast (including [[TheBigEasy New Orleans]]), Florida and in the Caribbean. * LadyLand: In the Caribbean, women occupy civil service jobs as the men are away. away. * UsefulNotes/{{Mormonism}}: In the absence of the federal government, the LDS Church establishes a theocracy over Utah, Idaho and Wyoming. And since absolute power is no fun without a harem, they bring back polygamy in the process.

* SaintlyChurch: Relatively speaking, the Non-Denominational Church provides social services in the new Dark Ages, sue for peace, and have a republican structure. * TheBigEasy: May be the most important trading port on the continent, as it funnels South American goods to the inland fiefdoms.
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* SaintlyChurch: Relatively speaking, the Non-Denominational Church provides social services in the new Dark Ages, sue sues for peace, and have has a republican structure. * TheBigEasy: May New Orleans may be the most important trading port on the continent, as it funnels South American goods to the inland fiefdoms.
23rd Mar '12 9:34:41 PM Abodos
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There's a stash of images and planned pages that don't go anywhere, so it's evident what the creator was planning at the time.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: There's a stash of images and planned pages that don't go anywhere, so it's evident what the creator was planning at the time.time. ----
23rd Mar '12 9:34:18 PM Abodos
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What its creator Matthew White calls a "surreal history". The site proposes what the United State of America would look like if it was a Middle Ages version of itself. Not fantastical elements. No radioactive mutants or wizards. It's strictly what North America would look like, with its current ancestry, religious values and culture would look like given only a medieval level of technology to work with. Because it's [[AfterTheEnd 1000 years into the future]], it doesn't quite count as AlternateHistory, but it largely appeals to that crowd. The [[http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/medvam/index.htm site is here,]], but it has not been updated in [[OrphanedSeries over half a decade]].
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What its creator Matthew White calls a "surreal history". The site proposes what the United State of America would look like if it was a Middle Ages version of itself. Not No fantastical elements. No radioactive mutants or wizards. It's strictly what North America would look like, with its current ancestry, religious values and culture would look like given only a medieval level of technology to work with. Because it's [[AfterTheEnd 1000 years into the future]], it doesn't quite count as AlternateHistory, but it largely appeals to that crowd. The [[http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/medvam/index.htm site is here,]], but it has not been updated in [[OrphanedSeries over half a decade]].
5th Mar '11 10:07:37 AM Jake18
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* AfterTheEnd: America is in its present state due to an unspecified disaster.

* {{Discontinuity}}: A lot of alternate history fans ''really'' don't like the idea of Scientology being the dominant religion on the west coast.

* {{Squick}}: How the Desert Empires get their bureaucrats...
31st Jan '11 2:10:37 AM skyblade
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* [[Discontinuity]]: A lot of alternate history fans ''really'' don't like the idea of Scientology being the dominant religion on the west coast.
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* [[Discontinuity]]: {{Discontinuity}}: A lot of alternate history fans ''really'' don't like the idea of Scientology being the dominant religion on the west coast.

* [[Squick]]: How the Desert Empires get their bureaucrats...
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* [[Squick]]: {{Squick}}: How the Desert Empires get their bureaucrats...
31st Jan '11 2:09:46 AM skyblade
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* Discontinuity: A lot of alternate history fans ''really'' don't like the idea of Scientology being the dominant religion on the west coast.
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* Discontinuity: [[Discontinuity]]: A lot of alternate history fans ''really'' don't like the idea of Scientology being the dominant religion on the west coast.

* Squick: How the Desert Empires get their bureaucrats...
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* Squick: [[Squick]]: How the Desert Empires get their bureaucrats...
31st Jan '11 2:08:39 AM skyblade
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* OprphanedSeries: A very strong and frustrating example.
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* OprphanedSeries: OrphanedSeries: A very strong and frustrating example.
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