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4th Jun '16 9:08:14 PM rjd1922
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* This trope was parodied in ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'', where a fictional version of the [=90s=] ''Fantastic Four'' movie is stated to be one of several movies made by Imagine Entertainment ([[SelfDeprecation the studio that makes the show]]) for the same reason as the real life one was: Ron Howard was told by a drunk lawyer at the company Christmas party that Imagine's license on the Fantastic Four would expire if it remained unused for 6 more days. They made a film where the people working the bar were hired to be the actors, then hired them to work at the film's wrap party 5 days later.

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* This trope was parodied in ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'', where a fictional version of the [=90s=] ''Fantastic Four'' movie is stated to be one of several movies made by Imagine Entertainment ([[SelfDeprecation the studio that makes the show]]) for the same reason as the real life one was: Ron Howard was told by a drunk lawyer at the company Christmas party that Imagine's license on the Fantastic Four ''Fantastic Four'' would expire if it remained unused for 6 six more days. They made a film where the people working the bar were hired to be the actors, then hired them to work at the film's wrap party 5 five days later.
4th Jun '16 9:06:02 PM rjd1922
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* On February 9th, 2015 (at 1:30 AM!), ''Winter Dragon'', a 30-minute adaptation of part of ''The Eye Of The World'' (the first volume of Robert Jordan's ''[[Literature/TheWheelOfTime Wheel of Time]]'' series) appeared on [[Creator/{{Fox}} FXX]]. What keeps it from being just another OneEpisodeWonder are the circumstances of its production. [[https://twitter.com/Sedavision According to the director's tweets]], [[ChristmasRushed filming began on January 20th and post-production was completed on February 4th]]. The TV rights to the ''Wheel of Time'' series were set to revert from Red Eagle Entertainment (who has held them since the mid-2000s) to The Bandersnatch Group (which is owned by the Robert Jordan estate) on February 11th. Needless to say, [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/02/wheel-of-time-pilot-harriet-statement Jordan's widow was not pleased]].

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* On February 9th, 2015 (at 1:30 AM!), ''Winter Dragon'', a 30-minute adaptation of part of ''The Eye Of The of the World'' (the first volume of Robert Jordan's ''[[Literature/TheWheelOfTime Wheel of Time]]'' series) appeared on [[Creator/{{Fox}} FXX]]. What keeps it from being just another OneEpisodeWonder are the circumstances of its production. [[https://twitter.com/Sedavision According to the director's tweets]], [[ChristmasRushed filming began on January 20th and post-production was completed on February 4th]]. The TV rights to the ''Wheel of Time'' series were set to revert from Red Eagle Entertainment (who has held them since the mid-2000s) to The Bandersnatch Group (which is owned by the Robert Jordan estate) on February 11th. Needless to say, [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2015/02/wheel-of-time-pilot-harriet-statement Jordan's widow was not pleased]].
28th Apr '16 2:52:42 PM XanderCrews
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* While most prevalent in comics, other entertainment fields have done similar things, including the 1994 ''Film/TheFantasticFour'' movie. The flick was made on the cheap and produced by famed BMovie schlock-meister Creator/RogerCorman, and never got a wide release. The studio was given a certain number of years to make the film, and would lose the rights if no film was produced. By the term of the contract, they had to make a film. No one specified it had to be a good one. It only exists in bootleg copies -- including [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coayT3aUn8k online ones]].

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* While most prevalent in comics, other entertainment fields have done similar things, including the 1994 ''Film/TheFantasticFour'' movie. The flick was made on the cheap and produced by famed BMovie schlock-meister Creator/RogerCorman, and never got a wide release. The studio was given a certain number of years to make the film, and would lose the rights if no film was produced. By the term of the contract, they had to make a film. No one specified it had to be a good one. It only exists in bootleg copies -- including [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coayT3aUn8k com/watch?v=QW5rLyzFWJM online ones]].
18th Apr '16 11:42:47 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The 'contractual obligation album'. When an artist has to produce a certain number of records for a label and wants out of their contract, a common way to go about this is to essentially dump the stuff that didn't make the cut for their other albums (B-sides, demos, live performances, and assorted unreleased content) onto a record and push it out the door. The appropriately-titled ''AudioPlay/MontyPythonsContractualObligationAlbum'' is a typical example.
28th Jan '16 5:21:04 AM Piando
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28th Dec '15 5:57:12 AM Doug86
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* The most widely-known example is ''Flash Comics'', which was actually the title of two different ashcans from different companies seeking claim to the title. Creator/DCComics' ''Flash Comics'' combined cover art from ''Adventure Comics'' #41 with pages from ''All-American Comics'' #8; Fawcett's ''Flash Comics'' (also printed under the title ''Thrill Comics'') featured the origin of Captain Thunder, who made his first regular appearance as [[{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] in ''Whiz Comics'' #2 (there was no ''Whiz Comics'' #1).

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* The most widely-known example is ''Flash Comics'', which was actually the title of two different ashcans from different companies seeking claim to the title. Creator/DCComics' ''Flash Comics'' combined cover art from ''Adventure Comics'' #41 with pages from ''All-American Comics'' #8; Fawcett's ''Flash Comics'' (also printed under the title ''Thrill Comics'') featured the origin of Captain Thunder, who made his first regular appearance as [[{{Shazam}} [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] in ''Whiz Comics'' #2 (there was no ''Whiz Comics'' #1).



* Following the "DC Implosion" (where DC Comics cancelled a whole bunch of titles all at once) they "published" ''Cancelled Comic Cavalcade'', two 250 page editions of the comics which had been cancelled just to ensure copyright on the stories which had already been written & drawn. Only 35 copies were made, though black-and-white photocopies of the originals exist. The reprint was notable for being the first "appearance" of [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]] member Comicbook/{{Vixen}}.

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* Following the "DC Implosion" (where DC Comics cancelled a whole bunch of titles all at once) they "published" ''Cancelled Comic Cavalcade'', two 250 page editions of the comics which had been cancelled just to ensure copyright on the stories which had already been written & drawn. Only 35 copies were made, though black-and-white photocopies of the originals exist. The reprint was notable for being the first "appearance" of [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica [[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]] member Comicbook/{{Vixen}}.
28th Dec '15 12:07:17 AM Reedside
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* ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' didn't fare any better. The film was rushed to meet a deadline for Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox to keep the film rights of the Marvel characters as opposed to letting them revert back to Marvel Studios. The key concern by Fox with production is that Marvel would then be able to integrate the characters into the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which would both cost Fox a property that they could still profit from and strengthen one of their direct competitors. The initiative behind the reboot led to a TroubledProduction faced with the issues of ExecutiveMeddling and [[InternetBackdraft an infuriated fanbase]] from without, and director Josh Trank's CreatorBreakdown and multiple {{Special Effect Failure}}s from within. The final result was a significant BoxOfficeBomb and one of the worst-reviewed comic book movies ever made, [[DisownedAdaptation disowned by Marvel itself]] [[CreatorBacklash and badmouthed by the director, along many people involved with the production]]. Many have expressed the opinion that Fox would have made more money if they had simply sold the rights back to Marvel Studios instead of going through the trouble of making another movie.

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* ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' didn't fare any better. The film was rushed to meet a deadline for Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox to keep the film rights of the Marvel characters as opposed to letting them revert back to Marvel Studios. The key concern by Fox with production is that Marvel would then be able to integrate the characters into the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, which would both cost Fox a property that they could still profit from and strengthen one of their direct competitors. The initiative behind the reboot led to a TroubledProduction faced with the issues of ExecutiveMeddling and [[InternetBackdraft an infuriated fanbase]] from without, and director Josh Trank's CreatorBreakdown and multiple {{Special Effect Failure}}s from within. The final result was a significant BoxOfficeBomb and one of the worst-reviewed comic book movies ever made, [[DisownedAdaptation disowned by Marvel itself]] [[CreatorBacklash and badmouthed by the director, along many people involved with the production]]. A planned sequel to the film vanished from Fox's release calendar in November of 2015. Many have expressed the opinion that Fox would have made more money if they had simply sold the rights back to Marvel Studios instead of going through the trouble of making another movie.
20th Dec '15 3:15:47 PM thatother1dude
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* This trope was parodied in ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'', where it's stated to be one of several movies made by Imagine Entertainment ([[SelfDeprecation the studio that makes the show]]) for just such a reason: Ron Howard was told by a drunk lawyer at the company Christmas party that Imagine's license on the Fantastic Four would expire if it remained unused for 6 more days. They made a film where the people working the bar were hired to be the actors, then hired them to work at the film's wrap party 5 days later.

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* This trope was parodied in ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'', where it's a fictional version of the [=90s=] ''Fantastic Four'' movie is stated to be one of several movies made by Imagine Entertainment ([[SelfDeprecation the studio that makes the show]]) for just such a reason: the same reason as the real life one was: Ron Howard was told by a drunk lawyer at the company Christmas party that Imagine's license on the Fantastic Four would expire if it remained unused for 6 more days. They made a film where the people working the bar were hired to be the actors, then hired them to work at the film's wrap party 5 days later.
17th Dec '15 3:03:14 PM DragonRanger
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** Marvel has another case: while DC was suing Fawcett regarding how close was CaptainMarvel to their own Superman, Marvel created ComicBook/CaptainMarVell (given the company name, they couldn't be blamed). Then DC bought Fawcett and incorporated the now rebranded ''{{Shazam}}'' into their universe. In turn, Marvel has had to publish a Captain Marvel title every year or two since, leading to a number of ongoing series, limited series and one-shots featuring a range of characters using the Captain Marvel alias (the original Mar-Vell, many of his sons and clones, and the current one that used to go by Comicbook/MsMarvel).

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** * Marvel has another case: while after DC was suing sued Fawcett regarding how close [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] was CaptainMarvel to their own Superman, Franchise/{{Superman}}, Marvel noticed that the name was legally up for grabs created ComicBook/CaptainMarVell their own [[ComicBook/CaptainMarVell Captain Marvel]] (given the company name, they couldn't be blamed). Then DC bought Fawcett and incorporated the now rebranded ''{{Shazam}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Shazam}}'' into their universe. In turn, Marvel has had to publish a Captain Marvel ''Captain Marvel'' title every year or two since, leading to a number of ongoing series, limited series and one-shots featuring a range of characters using the Captain Marvel alias (the original Mar-Vell, many of his sons and clones, and the current one that used to go by Comicbook/MsMarvel).
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