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19th Jan '17 6:36:14 PM Solicitr
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* '''Film/ToraToraTora'' partly averted this trope, by constructing an accurate full-scale mockup of the main deck and superstructure of the battleship ''Nagato'', and another of the rear main deck and after turrets of the USS ''Arizona'' (doubling in some scenes as the ''Nevada''). However, the carrier ''Enterprise'' was played by the USS ''Yorktown'', a later, larger carrier which had been rebuilt in the 1950s with an angled flight deck and other modifications for operating jet aircraft. Moreover, the actual destroyer ''Ward'' was an old four-piper from 1918, nothing at all like the 1943 Edsall-class DE that portrayed her.
15th Jan '17 7:36:16 AM LentilSandEater
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** Partly averted elsewhere in the same novel, when the fires on the ship are licking at the walls of the missile magazines. The captain orders them flooded to prevent the ship from exploding, despite the fact that there are still men inside. This has been done in the World Wars, and would be done again if necessary. Whether the missiles would survive the dunking is another matter.

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** Partly averted Downplayed elsewhere in the same novel, when the fires on the ship are licking at the walls of the missile magazines. The captain orders them flooded to prevent the ship from exploding, despite the fact that there are still men inside. This has been done in the World Wars, and would be done again if necessary. Whether the missiles would survive the dunking is another matter.
6th Jan '17 1:50:03 PM Nautilus1
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** Firing [[{{BFG}} 16 inch guns]] like AK-47s in semi-automatic.[[note]]The best reloading time of the 16"/50 Mark 7 gun was 30 seconds. A well trained crew could do it in as little as 20 seconds at low elevation for a short period of time. The historic record for a 15"-16" naval gun was 20 seconds, the 15"/52 of the ''Bismarck''-class.[[/note]] Made even more unrealistic by the fact the ship is crewed by current Navy sailors, who would be entirely unfamiliar with a battleship's weapons, and retired sailors, who even if they remembered their training, are too few and 60+ years removed from their sailing days.

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** Firing [[{{BFG}} 16 inch guns]] like AK-47s in semi-automatic.semi-automatic, at least 4 times in 10 seconds.[[note]]The best reloading time of the 16"/50 Mark 7 gun was 30 seconds. A well trained crew could do it in as little as 20 seconds at low elevation for a short period of time. The historic record for a 15"-16" naval gun was 20 seconds, the 15"/52 of the ''Bismarck''-class.[[/note]] Made even more unrealistic by the fact the ship is crewed by current Navy sailors, who would be entirely unfamiliar with a battleship's weapons, and retired sailors, who even if they remembered their training, are too few and 60+ years removed from their sailing days.
9th Dec '16 2:47:25 PM LtFedora
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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' features a submarine operating in the Persian Gulf while surfaced. First, US Navy submarine would be surfaced while patrolling close to a hostile country. Second, the Gulf is nowhere near deep enough for a submarine to operate (it's 90 meters at its deepest point).

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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' features a submarine operating in the Persian Gulf while surfaced. First, a US Navy submarine would not be surfaced while patrolling close to a hostile country. Second, the Gulf is nowhere near deep enough for a submarine to operate (it's 90 meters at its deepest point).
25th Nov '16 11:15:59 AM LtFedora
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** The 1996 miniseries ''Series/{{Titanic 1996}}'' made many, ''many'' errors in the design of the ship. The exterior sets have no resemblance to the actual layout. The Grand Staircase has a chandelier instead of its famous dome, and there is a two-story tea room even though there was no room for such a structure.

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** The 1996 miniseries ''Series/{{Titanic 1996}}'' made many, ''many'' errors in the design of the ship. The exterior sets have no resemblance to the actual layout. The layout, the Grand Staircase has a chandelier instead of its famous dome, and there is a two-story tea room even though there was no room for such a structure.


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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' features a submarine operating in the Persian Gulf while surfaced. First, US Navy submarine would be surfaced while patrolling close to a hostile country. Second, the Gulf is nowhere near deep enough for a submarine to operate (it's 90 meters at its deepest point).
12th Oct '16 8:01:41 PM erforce
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** The trilogy is a major offender, with extensive yelling about naval maneuvers, which never accomplish anything, as all the ships continually sail in any direction in every weather with main and topsails square to the masts at all times. Bonus points for Captain Jack Sparrow yelling for adjustments to pieces of rigging his ship does not even possess: "Scandalize the lateens!" The torn and tattered sails of the Pearl and the Dutchman do not qualify, as they are both supernatural vessels.
** Along with many films featuring WoodenShipsAndIronMen, RealLife fully rigged sailing ships couldn't be turned simply by spinning the wheel like it's a Formula 1 car. There is a whole array of multi-man, complex procedures for doing so. Also bizarre is how Jack Sparrow managed to "disable the rudder chain" in Curse of the Black Pearl - the cables (not chains) on a ship like the ''Dauntless'' would take a single man ''days'' to cut through even if he had a proper implement (which he doesn't).

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** The trilogy is a major offender, with extensive yelling about naval maneuvers, which never accomplish anything, as all the ships continually sail in any direction in every weather with main and topsails square to the masts at all times. Bonus points for Captain Jack Sparrow yelling for adjustments to pieces of rigging his ship does not even possess: "Scandalize the lateens!" The torn and tattered sails of the Pearl ''Pearl'' and the Dutchman ''Dutchman'' do not qualify, as they are both supernatural vessels.
** Along with many films featuring WoodenShipsAndIronMen, RealLife fully rigged sailing ships couldn't be turned simply by spinning the wheel like it's a Formula 1 car. There is a whole array of multi-man, complex procedures for doing so. Also bizarre is how Jack Sparrow managed to "disable the rudder chain" in ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanTheCurseOfTheBlackPearl The Curse of the Black Pearl Pearl]]'' - the cables (not chains) on a ship like the ''Dauntless'' would take a single man ''days'' to cut through even if he had a proper implement (which he doesn't).



** The whole Maelstrom battle. Also, a first-rate ship of the line like the ''Endeavour'' could eat a pair of heavy frigates like the ''Black Pearl'' and ''Flying Dutchman'' for breakfast, though this is excusable given that Lord Beckett was unable to break out of his VillainousBreakdown and order his ship to attack. Also, the ''Dutchman'' is probably too supernatural to sink even with superior firepower.

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** The whole Maelstrom battle.battle in ''[[Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd At World's End]]''. Also, a first-rate ship of the line like the ''Endeavour'' could eat a pair of heavy frigates like the ''Black Pearl'' and ''Flying Dutchman'' for breakfast, though this is excusable given that Lord Beckett was unable to break out of his VillainousBreakdown and order his ship to attack. Also, the ''Dutchman'' is probably too supernatural to sink even with superior firepower.



** The Flying Dutchman's triple-guns cannot be reloaded, as cannon are muzzle-loading. Unless Davy Jones has invented breech-loading cannons. Which presents the additional problem of how the cascabel screw threads don't seize using 17th-century ironwork. Unless the guns are magical. Which presents the additional problem of why Davy Jones bothers to crew his gundecks.

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** The Flying Dutchman's ''Flying Dutchman'''s triple-guns cannot be reloaded, as cannon are muzzle-loading. Unless Davy Jones has invented breech-loading cannons. Which presents the additional problem of how the cascabel screw threads don't seize using 17th-century ironwork. Unless the guns are magical. Which presents the additional problem of why Davy Jones bothers to crew his gundecks.
11th Oct '16 5:10:03 PM nombretomado
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* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the straight sail and lack of a deck gun on the ColdWar-era sub.

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* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the straight sail and lack of a deck gun on the ColdWar-era UsefulNotes/ColdWar-era sub.
9th Sep '16 9:14:29 AM Morgenthaler
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** In "Cold War", the Soviet nuclear submarine Firebird, despite looking like a [[MnogoNukesMissileSubmarines Murena-M class]] ([[ReportingNames Delta-II class]]) missile sub, seems to be far more massive. For comparison, the more modern ''Akula'' (''[[ReportingNames Typhoon]]'') class is larger than a Delta-II, and yet the protagonists are dwarfed by the conning tower when standing on the bridge in the epilogue of the episode. This is not something anyone was at risk of with a ''Typhoon''.

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** In "Cold War", the Soviet nuclear submarine Firebird, despite looking like a [[MnogoNukesMissileSubmarines [[UsefulNotes/MnogoNukesMissileSubmarines Murena-M class]] ([[ReportingNames Delta-II class]]) missile sub, seems to be far more massive. For comparison, the more modern ''Akula'' (''[[ReportingNames Typhoon]]'') class is larger than a Delta-II, and yet the protagonists are dwarfed by the conning tower when standing on the bridge in the epilogue of the episode. This is not something anyone was at risk of with a ''Typhoon''.
4th Sep '16 3:05:19 PM TomWalpertac2
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* Creator/TheHistoryChannel loves World War 2 documentaries. One such is ''The World Wars''. The final episode of this mini-series features on the outbreak of war in the Pacific in 1941. Careful examination of the war footage reveals some use of StockFootage from recent [[WorksSetInWorldWarII war films]]. It also features footage of aircraft carriers and a carrier battle group. Modern, early 21st century aircraft carriers and support ships. Also seen is footage of a [[UsefulNotes/KaijuDefenseForce modern Japanese Aegis class ship]]. Guess they figured they didn't have enough of the kinds of footage they wanted, so the went and found or filmed footage of similar-looking ships.
4th Aug '16 11:52:33 AM Morgenthaler
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* Avoided entirely in ''TheCaineMutiny'', which replaced the novel's four-piper destroyer-minesweeper conversion with a ''Gleaves''-class conversion. The only problem is that this leaves a few comments about the ''Caine'' being a rusty old tub sounding slightly odd, since she would've been less than five years old during the Pacific campaign.

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* Avoided entirely in ''TheCaineMutiny'', ''Film/TheCaineMutiny'', which replaced the novel's four-piper destroyer-minesweeper conversion with a ''Gleaves''-class conversion. The only problem is that this leaves a few comments about the ''Caine'' being a rusty old tub sounding slightly odd, since she would've been less than five years old during the Pacific campaign.
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