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24th Jun '16 8:38:30 AM ChronoLegion
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* The climax of ''Film/DownPeriscope'' involves the USS ''Stingray'', a recommissioned WorldWarTwo-era diesel sub, attempting to make a suicide run at Naval Station Norfolk as part of a war game, while being chased by the USS ''Orlando'' (a ''Los Angeles''-class nuclear sub). With their stealth gone, Lieutenant Commander Dodge orders the ''Stingray'' to surface and gun the engines. Rear Admiral Graham, in temporary command of the ''Orlando'', orders his sub to surface as well in order to get close (using StockFootage from ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober''). The problem with this is that, while it makes perfect sense for a WWII diesel sub to surface to move faster, it makes ''no'' sense for a modern nuclear sub to do the same, since this actually ''reduces'' the ''Orlando'''s speed. The ''Orlando'' should've stayed at periscope depth in order to maximize her speed.
3rd Jun '16 10:44:15 AM Doug86
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* ''Manga/KuroganePukapukaTai'', an odd mixture of GirlsLove romp and UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo military action, largely avoids this trope.

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* ''Manga/KuroganePukapukaTai'', an odd mixture of GirlsLove romp and UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo UsefulNotes/WorldWarII military action, largely avoids this trope.



** The aircraft carriers on both sides were visibly modern designs with angled flight decks when viewed in long shots, due to the lack of "straight" deck carriers in RealLife since shortly after UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.

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** The aircraft carriers on both sides were visibly modern designs with angled flight decks when viewed in long shots, due to the lack of "straight" deck carriers in RealLife since shortly after UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



** The main guns of USS ''Missouri'' are loaded and fired by a crew of maybe 10 sailors who were not specialist artillerymen. It took 47 highly trained men for ''each'' gun's machinery (charge hoists, shell hoists, gun laying, firing) during UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.

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** The main guns of USS ''Missouri'' are loaded and fired by a crew of maybe 10 sailors who were not specialist artillerymen. It took 47 highly trained men for ''each'' gun's machinery (charge hoists, shell hoists, gun laying, firing) during UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII.



* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the straight sail and lack of a deck gun on the ColdWar-era sub.

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* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the WorldWarII UsefulNotes/WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the straight sail and lack of a deck gun on the ColdWar-era sub.
9th May '16 8:15:33 PM WiddershinsDaughter
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** The angled deck, invented late into the war, was so much superior (as it allows the carrier to launch and receive planes ''simultaneously'', without fearing that the landing plane would crash into the launchind one at the bow) that all straight-deck carriers were either decommissined soon after the end of hostilities, or converted into the angled deck configuraton, and no straight-deck carriers were built ever since.

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** The angled deck, invented late into the war, was so much superior (as it allows the carrier to launch and receive planes ''simultaneously'', without fearing that the landing plane would crash into the launchind one at the bow) that all straight-deck carriers were either decommissined soon after the end of hostilities, or converted into the angled deck configuraton, and no the only straight-deck carriers were that have been built ever since. since have been either purpose-built STOVL carriers (since STOVL aircraft land vertically, the issues that gave rise to the angled deck in the first place don't really exist for them) or amphibious assault warships with a secondary "sea control" (read: "light carrier") function.
16th Apr '16 8:46:06 AM Khathi
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** The angled deck, invented late into the war, was so much superior (as it allows the carrier to launch and receive planes ''simultaneously'', without fearing that the landing plane would crash into the launchind one at the bow) that all straight-deck carriers were either decommissined soon after the end of hostilities, or converted into the angled deck configuraton, and no straight-deck carriers were built ever since.
8th Apr '16 5:13:10 PM eroock
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* Any submarine that flipped upside down, as depicted in ''Film/TheNavigator'', would not right itself but would go straight to the bottom, guaranteed.
26th Mar '16 6:47:49 AM JackG
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* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the obvious straight sail of the ColdWar-era sub.

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* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the obvious straight sail and lack of a deck gun on the ColdWar-era sub.
26th Mar '16 6:46:34 AM JackG
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* In the 1982 Australian/Taiwanese movie ''Attack Force Z'', the WorldWarII commando unit is deployed from an Oberon-class submarine. You don't have to be a naval buff to notice this either, given the obvious straight sail of the ColdWar-era sub.
24th Feb '16 1:43:08 AM SSJMagus
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** Most US Navy vessels on the show, other than decommissioned ones or historic references, have fictional names. This may have been intentional.

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** Most US Navy vessels on the show, other than decommissioned ones or historic references, have fictional names. This may have been intentional. They usually also have either fictional hull numbers, or ones that are shared by a real ship with a different name (hull numbers are never reused in the US Navy). The fictional names also rarely conform with standard US Navy naming conventions (though even in real life, the US Navy doesn't always follow its own naming conventions). All of these issues carried over to ''Series/{{NCIS}}'', which even has some of the same fictional ships that appeared in ''JAG''.
14th Feb '16 3:59:33 PM laserviking42
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** The 16 inch gun fires at a distant target as small as a surfaced submarine ''in the night'', supposedly under turret-rangefinder control. The sub would be nearly-invisible in RealLife, to score a hit in wartime conditions it needed complex calculations using data from radar plotting, main rangefinder plotting, a specific charge for the gun and so on. This assuming the gun can depress enough to fire at such a close target. Effects of the gun firing are downplayed as well, in RealLife the muzzle flame of a capital ship gun was at least 20 yards long and the water splash nearly the size of a 10 story building.

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** The 16 inch gun fires at a distant target as small as a surfaced submarine ''in the night'', supposedly under turret-rangefinder control. The sub would be nearly-invisible in RealLife, to score a hit in wartime conditions it needed complex calculations using data from radar plotting, main rangefinder plotting, a specific charge for the gun and so on. This assuming the gun can depress enough to fire at such a close target. Effects of the gun firing are downplayed as well, in RealLife the muzzle flame of a capital ship gun was at least 20 yards long and the water splash nearly the size of a 10 story building. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_(BB-61)#/media/File:Uss_iowa_bb-61_pr.jpg Here]] is an overhead view of the USS Iowa firing a broadside for comparison.
14th Feb '16 3:54:51 PM laserviking42
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* ''Film/{{U571}}'' wasn't much more accurate in its ship displays than its accuracy to historical events.

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* ''Film/{{U571}}'' wasn't much more accurate in its ship displays than its accuracy to historical events. One of the more glaring errors is how roomy the captured U-Boat is. Compare this to "Film/DasBoot" in which even the officers having dinner are required to stand up and stuff themselves into a corner whenever someone needs to get through.



** Firing [[{{BFG}} 16 inch guns]] like AK-47s in semi-automatic.[[note]]The best reloading time of the 16"/50 Mark 7 gun was 30 seconds. A well trained crew could do it in as little as 20 seconds at low elevation for a short period of time. The historic record for a 15"-16" naval gun was 20 seconds, the 15"/52 of the ''Bismarck''-class.[[/note]]

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** Firing [[{{BFG}} 16 inch guns]] like AK-47s in semi-automatic.[[note]]The best reloading time of the 16"/50 Mark 7 gun was 30 seconds. A well trained crew could do it in as little as 20 seconds at low elevation for a short period of time. The historic record for a 15"-16" naval gun was 20 seconds, the 15"/52 of the ''Bismarck''-class.[[/note]][[/note]] Made even more unrealistic by the fact the ship is crewed by current Navy sailors, who would be entirely unfamiliar with a battleship's weapons, and retired sailors, who even if they remembered their training, are too few and 60+ years removed from their sailing days.
** At one point the crew needs to move a shell by hand from one turret to another and though straining, five of them are able to do so. An actual 16" shell is over 2000 lbs., even presuming they could lift and carry such a weight, there is no way they would be able to fit it through the corridors and into another turret.
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