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14th Aug '16 8:01:59 PM PaulA
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* Joked about in the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' by a mention of neutron hand grenades, which should only be used by people with VERY strong throwing arms. They never actually appear on page, probably because nobody's figured out how to set one off without being caught in the blast radius.[[note]]Of course, they could still be useful to a suicide bomber.[[/note]]
** On another topic, the books do fall into the "radioactivity glows" fallacy, as it's stated on more than one occasion that the city of Vorkosigan Vashnoi glowed for several decades after the Cetagandans nuked it.

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* ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** The books do fall into the "radioactivity glows" fallacy, as it's stated on more than one occasion that the city of Vorkosigan Vashnoi glowed for several decades after the Cetagandans nuked it.
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Joked about in the ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' by a mention of neutron hand grenades, which should only be used by people with VERY strong throwing arms. They never actually appear on page, probably because nobody's figured out how to set one off without being caught in the blast radius.[[note]]Of course, they could still be useful to a suicide bomber.[[/note]]
** On another topic, the books do fall into the "radioactivity glows" fallacy, as it's stated on more than one occasion that the city of Vorkosigan Vashnoi glowed for several decades after the Cetagandans nuked it.
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3rd Aug '16 10:31:30 AM garthvader
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**Said reactor also continues to function unless the seawater intake is destroyed (?) and requires the control rods to be inserted by hand in an irradiated room directly adjacent to the reactor vessel. And they apparently only have one radiation suit, so this can only be done one rod at a time. Really, it's no wonder The Hood decided to sabotage ''that'' reactor in particular.
2nd Aug '16 2:24:28 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Averted in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ExpandedUniverse, with ''Literature/GhostsOfOnyx'' alone having numerous examples:

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* Averted in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ExpandedUniverse, with ''Literature/GhostsOfOnyx'' ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'' alone having numerous examples:
2nd Aug '16 2:24:07 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Averted in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ExpandedUniverse. In one of the books, the Spartans actually use nuclear bombs for shields, as they're bulletproof, because that gives them a stronger explosion.
** In another one, the Spartan Blue Team laughs at the Covenant's lack of understanding of nuclear weapons, as they watch a pack of Brutes wrestle the bombs into Styrofoam containers.
** ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'' actually had the Spartans fire ''grenades'' into an elevator with the UNSC's "older" nuclear warheads, since they're "basically paperweights" without the arming codes. They're bemused by how their alien foes [[LampshadeHanging treat the warheads with kid gloves]].

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* Averted in the ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' ExpandedUniverse. In ExpandedUniverse, with ''Literature/GhostsOfOnyx'' alone having numerous examples:
** At
one of the books, point, the Spartans actually use nuclear bombs for shields, as they're bulletproof, because since the same part of their design that gives them a stronger explosion.
explosion also inherently makes them bulletproof.
** In another one, the Spartan Blue Team laughs at the Covenant's lack of understanding of nuclear weapons, as they watch a pack of Brutes wrestle the bombs into Styrofoam containers.
** ''Literature/HaloGhostsOfOnyx'' actually had
containers. They're bemused by how their alien foes [[LampshadeHanging treat the Spartans fire warheads with kid gloves]].
** At one point, Blue Team also fires
''grenades'' into an elevator with the UNSC's "older" nuclear warheads, since they're "basically paperweights" without the arming codes. They're bemused by how their alien foes [[LampshadeHanging treat the warheads with kid gloves]].codes.
1st Aug '16 4:04:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the {{Foundation}} series, the first two stories feature nuclear stations which blow up due to bad repairs.. or just some idiot messing with the controls. This was written in the early Forties. Later editions changed it to radiation leaks.

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* In the {{Foundation}} ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' series, the first two stories feature nuclear stations which blow up due to bad repairs.. or just some idiot messing with the controls. This was written in the early Forties. Later editions changed it to radiation leaks.



* Averted in ''[[TheLaundrySeries The Atrocity Archives]]''. A nuclear bomb is set and primed to blow an alternate reality to hell, but a member of the team realizes that's the last thing they want, as the bomb's energy will give the monster inhabiting the universe enough power to come through to ours. So, he manages to defuse the bomb by popping the caps without triggering the plutonium.
* In ''A Swiftly Tilting Planet'', one of the sequels to ''AWrinkleInTime'', the following exchange takes place when talking about ''nuclear war''.

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* Averted in ''[[TheLaundrySeries ''[[Literature/TheLaundrySeries The Atrocity Archives]]''. A nuclear bomb is set and primed to blow an alternate reality to hell, but a member of the team realizes that's the last thing they want, as the bomb's energy will give the monster inhabiting the universe enough power to come through to ours. So, he manages to defuse the bomb by popping the caps without triggering the plutonium.
* In ''A Swiftly Tilting Planet'', one of the sequels to ''AWrinkleInTime'', ''Literature/AWrinkleInTime'', the following exchange takes place when talking about ''nuclear war''.



* In Joe Haldeman's ''The Forever War'', frequent reference is made to nuclear weapons with yields in the microton range. One microton is just one gram, or approximately three one-hundredths of an ounce -- or, in other words, since we're talking about yields in terms of TNT-equivalent, barely a firecracker's worth of bang, and that's if we're being generous. Now, in theory, it would be possible to produce a nuclear explosion out of such a tiny mass of fissile material, by increasing its density enough to drive it supercritical -- trouble is, there's no point; ''The Forever War'' is set in the future, and today we know how to make [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211 chemical-explosive rounds]] which produce quite a bit more than a firecracker's worth of bang.

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* In Joe Haldeman's ''The Forever War'', ''Literature/TheForeverWar'', frequent reference is made to nuclear weapons with yields in the microton range. One microton is just one gram, or approximately three one-hundredths of an ounce -- or, in other words, since we're talking about yields in terms of TNT-equivalent, barely a firecracker's worth of bang, and that's if we're being generous. Now, in theory, it would be possible to produce a nuclear explosion out of such a tiny mass of fissile material, by increasing its density enough to drive it supercritical -- trouble is, there's no point; ''The Forever War'' is set in the future, and today we know how to make [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211 chemical-explosive rounds]] which produce quite a bit more than a firecracker's worth of bang.



* Joked about in the VorkosiganSaga by a mention of neutron hand grenades, which should only be used by people with VERY strong throwing arms. They never actually appear on page, probably because nobody's figured out how to set one off without being caught in the blast radius.[[note]]Of course, they could still be useful to a suicide bomber.[[/note]]

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* Joked about in the VorkosiganSaga ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'' by a mention of neutron hand grenades, which should only be used by people with VERY strong throwing arms. They never actually appear on page, probably because nobody's figured out how to set one off without being caught in the blast radius.[[note]]Of course, they could still be useful to a suicide bomber.[[/note]]
31st Jul '16 11:30:16 AM garthvader
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** In addition, no Soviet submarine reactor allows fuel rods to be inserted into the reactor while it's running; in fact, they are sealed designs which require the entire submarine to be dismantled just to refuel them.

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** In addition, no Soviet submarine *** The reactor allows of the movie's 1967-vintage nuclear sub had fuel rods to assemblies (that plutonium rod) which could be manually inserted into and removed. That's not how a Russian sub reactor is designed (though it is closer to certain heavy water power reactors.) To refuel the sub, they first need to shut down the reactor while it's running; in fact, ''for 90 days'' so the fuel is not too hot from a radioactive and thermal standpoint. Then they are sealed designs which require cut open part of the entire submarine sub's outside hull to remove the fuel assemblies. Big job, needed once every 5 to 10 years. The bullet stuck in the BigBad's brain would have killed him by then and the audience would be dismantled just to refuel them.quite bored.
31st Jul '16 11:27:26 AM garthvader
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**In addition, no Soviet submarine reactor allows fuel rods to be inserted into the reactor while it's running; in fact, they are sealed designs which require the entire submarine to be dismantled just to refuel them.
15th Jul '16 2:53:12 PM easytorememberhandle
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* Another ''Spider-Man'' story, the already ridiculous "Aunt May almost marries Doctor Octopus" story, climaxed with Hammerhead confronting Doctor Octopus in front of a breeder reactor. "The slightest vibration could set off a chain reaction!", Octopus exclaims. Hammerhead doesn't listen, and charges at Ock headfirst - next page depicts a mushroom cloud, of course. A later issue (which revealed that both villains had survived this) showed that the "chain reaction" was caused by Hammerhead getting his cranium stuck in a control panel. Never mind that the biggest danger with a breeder reactor is fire, not everything going kaboom.
17th Jun '16 9:43:45 PM Doug86
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* ''Tales of Suspense #49'': At a nuclear bomb test at Stark's nuclear weapons plant, "A highly-refined nuclear explosion takes place, dangerously close to Iron Man and The Angel!!" Luckily, Iron Man is protected by his "heavily-insulated flexible metal costume", which allows him to "withstand the tremendous shock of the explosion without suffering any lasting ill effects." But Angel, "wearing no such protective clothing, receives the brunt of the radioactivity"; suddenly, the radiation turns the Angel's personality to evil!
* The third, fusion-powered version of Comicbook/{{Starman}} for DCComics fought a phasing opponent who used a Cadmium dagger (cadmium being used to dampen nuclear reactions in fission reactors sometimes) in an attempt to neutralize Starman's powers because 'well you're powered by nuclear energy!'. Which got him a 'you're an idiot!' moment from Starman as he rightly points out that his being transformed into a solar-powered being like the sun meant he ran on fusion and not fission reactions.
* Dan Jurgen's ''[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'': ''Thor #51'' has Thor magically contain the explosive blast from a nuclear missile strike, with no hint of any radiation escaping into the atmosphere. In Asgard, a nuclear bomb detonates in ''Thor #66-67'': Thor survives without carrying around radiation, and Asgard does not stay a nuclear wasteland.

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* ''Tales of Suspense #49'': Suspense'' #49: At a nuclear bomb test at Stark's nuclear weapons plant, "A highly-refined nuclear explosion takes place, dangerously close to Iron Man and The Angel!!" Luckily, Iron Man is protected by his "heavily-insulated flexible metal costume", which allows him to "withstand the tremendous shock of the explosion without suffering any lasting ill effects." But Angel, "wearing no such protective clothing, receives the brunt of the radioactivity"; suddenly, the radiation turns the Angel's personality to evil!
* The third, fusion-powered version of Comicbook/{{Starman}} for DCComics Creator/DCComics fought a phasing opponent who used a Cadmium dagger (cadmium being used to dampen nuclear reactions in fission reactors sometimes) in an attempt to neutralize Starman's powers because 'well you're powered by nuclear energy!'. Which got him a 'you're an idiot!' moment from Starman as he rightly points out that his being transformed into a solar-powered being like the sun meant he ran on fusion and not fission reactions.
* Dan Jurgen's ''[[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]]'': ''Thor #51'' ''Thor'' #51 has Thor magically contain the explosive blast from a nuclear missile strike, with no hint of any radiation escaping into the atmosphere. In Asgard, a nuclear bomb detonates in ''Thor #66-67'': ''Thor'' #66-67: Thor survives without carrying around radiation, and Asgard does not stay a nuclear wasteland.
16th Jun '16 7:58:32 PM nombretomado
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* A minor one: in Marvel Comics' ''ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet'', {{Thanos}} at one point mentions having a "thermal nuclear device," rather than a ''thermo''-nuclear device.

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* A minor one: in Marvel Comics' ''ComicBook/TheInfinityGauntlet'', {{Thanos}} ComicBook/{{Thanos}} at one point mentions having a "thermal nuclear device," rather than a ''thermo''-nuclear device.
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