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16th Mar '16 3:53:41 AM Znex
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[-Many people assume "linguistics" to be all about correcting spelling, pronunciation and grammar "errors". In fact there is no such thing as objectively correct usage[[note]]True, as far as it goes, but there is a recognized difference between '''descriptive''' and '''prescriptive''' linguistics with widely differing aims.[[/note]], as languages evolve over time - linguists concern themselves with studying actual usage, warts and all, rather than trying to be a GrammarNazi. The following tropes are not strictly linguistics failures, simply poor usage:-]

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[-Many people assume "linguistics" to be all about correcting spelling, pronunciation and grammar "errors". In fact there is no such thing as objectively correct usage[[note]]True, as far as it goes, but there is a recognized difference between '''descriptive''' and '''prescriptive''' linguistics with widely differing aims. Good rule of thumb is linguistics ''as a social science'' is by nature '''descriptive'''.[[/note]], as languages evolve over time - linguists concern themselves with studying actual usage, warts and all, rather than trying to be a GrammarNazi. The following tropes are not strictly linguistics failures, simply poor usage:-]
9th Mar '16 1:45:55 PM justanid
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'''Author's Mistakes (General):'''
Basic mistakes in the way languages work, evolve, and differ from each other.

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'''Author's Mistakes ([[TranslationTropes Foreign Languages]]):'''
Examples of these tropes ignore the differences between languages and assume they all translate perfectly 1:1. And then they get the translation wrong.

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'''Mistakes with Usage:'''
Many people assume "linguistics" to be all about correcting spelling, pronunciation and grammar "errors". In fact there is no such thing as objectively correct usage[[note]]True, as far as it goes, but there is a recognized difference between '''descriptive''' and '''prescriptive''' linguistics with widely differing aims.[[/note]], as languages evolve over time - linguists concern themselves with studying actual usage, warts and all, rather than trying to be a GrammarNazi. The following tropes are not strictly linguistics failures, simply poor usage:

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[-Many
people assume "linguistics" to be all about correcting spelling, pronunciation and grammar "errors". In fact there is no such thing as objectively correct usage[[note]]True, as far as it goes, but there is a recognized difference between '''descriptive''' and '''prescriptive''' linguistics with widely differing aims.[[/note]], as languages evolve over time - linguists concern themselves with studying actual usage, warts and all, rather than trying to be a GrammarNazi. The following tropes are not strictly linguistics failures, simply poor usage:
usage:-]

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'''Audience's Misconceptions (Linguistic Dissonance):'''
While not made up of mistakes in itself, these tropes can cause difficulty with audiences who are unaware of the difference within languages over time and from place to place:

* GetTheeToANunnery: Wordplay and humo(u)r that's lost on modern audiences, who don't get the references.
* HaveAGayOldTime: Unintentional hilarity derived from originally harmless words becoming amusing or taking on [[InnocentInnuendo sexual connotations]] over time.
* PronounTrouble: GenderNeutralWriting can get lost in translation when one language is more strongly gendered than another-- so much for your character's AmbiguousGender.
* SeparatedByACommonLanguage: Misunderstandings and (more) unintentional hilarity encountered across different dialects of the same language.


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'''[[AC:Audience's Misconceptions (Linguistic Dissonance):]]'''\\
[-While not made up of mistakes in itself, these tropes can cause difficulty with audiences who are unaware of the difference within languages over time and from place to place:-]

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* GetTheeToANunnery: Wordplay and humo(u)r that's lost on modern audiences, who don't get the references.
* HaveAGayOldTime: Unintentional hilarity derived from originally harmless words becoming amusing or taking on [[InnocentInnuendo sexual connotations]] over time.
* PronounTrouble: GenderNeutralWriting can get lost in translation when one language is more strongly gendered than another-- so much for your character's AmbiguousGender.
* SeparatedByACommonLanguage: Misunderstandings and (more) unintentional hilarity encountered across different dialects of the same language.
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10th Nov '15 7:51:16 AM Jeduthun
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* PersonalDictionary: Someone giving their own idiosyncratic definitions to existing words. Communication doesn't work that way.
* TwistingTheWords: Willfully ignoring the context, definitions, or other cues that can affect the meaning of someone's remarks.
6th Aug '15 6:17:02 AM Jeduthun
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* CypherLanguage / {{Fictionary}} / {{Wingdinglish}}: When everything in your [[ConLang fictional language]] just so happens to be exactly the same as your real-life language, only with new words or symbols substituted. That's not inventing a ''language''; that's inventing a code.

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* CypherLanguage / {{Fictionary}} / {{Wingdinglish}}: CypherLanguage: When everything in your [[ConLang fictional language]] just so happens to be exactly the same as your real-life language, only with new words or symbols substituted. That's not inventing a ''language''; that's inventing a code.code.
** {{Fictionary}}: Ditto, with made-up words merely standing in for English ones (as in CallARabbitASmeerp).
** {{Wingdinglish}}: Ditto, with a made-up alphabet merely substituting the English one.
10th Jun '15 8:26:11 PM Alvin
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* RecursiveTranslation: A second- or thirdhand (or more) translation that loses more and more nuance with each successive step.

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* RecursiveTranslation: A second- or thirdhand third-hand (or more) translation that loses more and more nuance with each successive step.
10th Jun '15 8:23:35 PM Alvin
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* LanguageEqualsThought: Follows the controversial Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, that language dictates (and limits) the ideas people can have and how they experience the world. Note that this is not necessarily error, depending on time and opinions of author.

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* LanguageEqualsThought: Follows the controversial Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis, that language dictates (and limits) the ideas people can have and how they experience the world. Note that this is not necessarily an error, depending on the time and the opinions of the author.
4th Jun '15 11:04:18 PM TalonsofIceandFire
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* EternalEnglish: Ignores the process of linguistic change, with people 1,000 years ago or 1,000 years hence speaking in the same dialect as the creators.

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* EternalEnglish: Ignores the process of linguistic change, with people 1,000 years ago or 1,000 years hence later speaking in the same dialect as the creators.
19th May '15 1:30:28 PM JCCyC
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* TheBackwardsR: Instant Russian, just flip the R's! See also ElSpanishO below.


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* ElSpanishO: Trying to fake a foreign language by adding the most known traits of that language into one's own.
25th Feb '15 8:28:48 AM Jeduthun
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* CypherLanguage: When everything in your [[ConLang fictional language]] just so happens to be exactly the same as your real-life language, only with new words or symbols substituted. That's not inventing a ''language''; that's inventing a code.

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* CypherLanguage: CypherLanguage / {{Fictionary}} / {{Wingdinglish}}: When everything in your [[ConLang fictional language]] just so happens to be exactly the same as your real-life language, only with new words or symbols substituted. That's not inventing a ''language''; that's inventing a code.
25th Feb '15 8:25:43 AM Jeduthun
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