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11th Aug '17 8:03:42 PM wingedcatgirl
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* The creator of ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'' admits that as of now, the economic system doesn't work - and was removed from game. One reason, apart from the many sanity-related ones, is that computers asked to keep track of all those coins tend to struggle.
** [[http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/on-mixed-economies This strip]] from ''Webcomic/ThreePanelSoul'' perfectly demonstrates just how insane the dwarven economy is.

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* The creator of ''VideoGame/DwarfFortress'' admits that as of now, the used to have an in-fort economic system doesn't work - and was removed from game. One reason, apart from the many sanity-related ones, is that computers asked to keep track in Fortress Mode. Doesn't sound familiar? It's been DummiedOut for ''years'' because it just plain didn't make any kind of all those coins tend to struggle.
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sense, as [[http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/on-mixed-economies This strip]] from ''Webcomic/ThreePanelSoul'' perfectly demonstrates just how insane explained]] by ''Webcomic/ThreePanelSoul''. Plus, making computers keep track of all the dwarven economy is.individual coins involved shot framerates right to hell.
11th Aug '17 7:04:42 AM brolaf
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** There's actually even more evidence; Mario & Luigi lose coins when they flee from battles, and if the player flees enough to cause them to lose all their coins, the exchange still comes to 10 Beanbean coins ([[DevelopersForesight they get 3 coins during the cutscene]]). Then again, [[HeroicMime they can't exactly complain]].
10th Aug '17 8:28:07 PM brolaf
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* Averted in Creator/FScottFitzgerald's ''Diamond As Big As The Ritz''. The Washington family discovers a mountain made ''entirely'' of solid diamond, but cashing in would lower the value of diamonds to next to nothing and leave the family near-broke. Today, the mountain would not necessarily be rendered worthless though--today, more diamonds are used for industrial purposes than as jewelry. However, Fitzgerald wrote before this was a common industrial practice.

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* Averted (not really) in Creator/FScottFitzgerald's ''Diamond As Big As The Ritz''. The Washington family discovers a mountain made ''entirely'' of solid diamond, but cashing in would lower the value of diamonds to next to nothing and leave the family near-broke. Today, the mountain would not necessarily be rendered worthless though--today, more diamonds are used for industrial purposes than as jewelry. However, Fitzgerald wrote before this was a common industrial practice.
** That's not averted, as the profitability of diamond mines is largely a result of marketing, rather than supply. They could have set themselves up as jewelers and made a fortune.
10th Aug '17 2:51:06 PM brolaf
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** Short Answer: [[ZigZaggingTrope zig-zagged]]
17th Jul '17 3:15:33 PM Psyclone
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* The comedic {{Elseworlds}} book ''Franchise/{{Superman}}: True Brit'': Superman tries to solve the UK's debt by turning all the coal in the British Isles into diamonds. Later at a press conference, a Lord tells Superman that because of "basic economic theory", diamonds are now worth ''less'' than coal. Not only does this make Superman's stunt useless, but thousands of coal miners have now lost their jobs and there is no coal for people to heat their houses with. Superman (a bit of a [[TheDitz Ditz]] in this universe) then proposes that he could [[ComicallyMissingThePoint going to outer space and bring back gold from other planets to give to each family]], causing the Lord to shout "You just don't ''get it'', do you Superman?"

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* The comedic {{Elseworlds}} book ''Franchise/{{Superman}}: True Brit'': Superman tries to solve the UK's debt by turning all the coal in the British Isles into diamonds. Later at a press conference, a Lord tells Superman that because of "basic economic theory", diamonds are now worth ''less'' than coal. Not only does this make Superman's stunt useless, but thousands of coal miners have now lost their jobs and there is no coal for people to heat their houses with. Superman (a bit of a [[TheDitz Ditz]] in this universe) then proposes that he could [[ComicallyMissingThePoint going go to outer space and bring back gold from other planets to give to each family]], causing the Lord to shout "You just don't ''get it'', do you Superman?"
17th Jul '17 3:15:23 PM Psyclone
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* The comedic {{Elseworlds}} book ''Franchise/{{Superman}}: True Brit'': Superman tries to solve the UK's debt by turning all the coal in the British Isles into diamonds. Later at a press conference, a Lord tells Superman that because of "basic economic theory", diamonds are now worth ''less'' than coal. Not only does this make Superman's stunt useless, but thousands of coal miners have now lost their jobs and there is no coal for people to heat their houses with. Superman (a bit of a [[TheDitz Ditz]] in this universe) then suggests [[ComicallyMissingThePoint going into outer space and bring back gold from other planets to give to each family]], causing the Lord to shout "You just don't ''get it'', do you Superman?"

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* The comedic {{Elseworlds}} book ''Franchise/{{Superman}}: True Brit'': Superman tries to solve the UK's debt by turning all the coal in the British Isles into diamonds. Later at a press conference, a Lord tells Superman that because of "basic economic theory", diamonds are now worth ''less'' than coal. Not only does this make Superman's stunt useless, but thousands of coal miners have now lost their jobs and there is no coal for people to heat their houses with. Superman (a bit of a [[TheDitz Ditz]] in this universe) then suggests proposes that he could [[ComicallyMissingThePoint going into to outer space and bring back gold from other planets to give to each family]], causing the Lord to shout "You just don't ''get it'', do you Superman?"
17th Jul '17 3:12:34 PM Psyclone
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* Done by either the writers or by Peach herself in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga''. When the eponymous brothers first arrive in the Beanbean Kingdom, they're told (by a fellow who is transparently trying to fleece them) that their 100 Mushroom Kingdom coins are currently worth 10 Beanbean coins and they'll have give him 100 Beanbean coins before he'll let them pass. Later on, Peach gets kidnapped (as she is wont to do) and the MacGuffin she was kidnapped to activate broken into a set of PlotCoupons. Prince Peasley cockily bets the brothers 99,999,999,999,999 Mushroom Coins that he'll find the coupons first. When the brothers inevitably win the bet, he makes good, but the royal advisor checks the exchange rates and reveals that their massive winnings amount to... 99 Beanbean Coins, meaning that somehow the Mushroom Kingdom currency's value relative to the Beanbean Kingdom's fell to '''a trillionth''' of it's original value. This means one of two things: either A)the Mushroom Kingdom economy collapsed entirely during the day or two that Peach was kidnapped, or B)''both'' economies were in dire straits at the beginning of the game and the value of the Beanbean Coin was artificially reset during the course of the game to prevent the Beanbean economy from crashing. Either way it doesn't speak well of Peach's ability to rule her kingdom even when she's ''not'' kidnapped. That, or Prince Peasley was lying to them to avoid paying up on a lost bet and counting on them not understanding economics. [[TakeAThirdOption Or, alternatively,]] the whole thing was a scam. Looking at the price of items in this game compared to the price of the same items in other games in the series, the exchange rate appears to be nearly 1:1. This points toward both the scam artist AND Peasley lying about it. Otherwise, the whole "exchange rate" is completely arbitrary.

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* Done by either the writers or by Peach herself in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga''. When the eponymous brothers first arrive in the Beanbean Kingdom, they're told (by a fellow who is transparently trying to fleece them) that their 100 Mushroom Kingdom coins are currently worth 10 Beanbean coins and they'll have to give him 100 Beanbean coins before he'll let them pass. Later on, Peach gets kidnapped (as she is wont to do) and the MacGuffin she was kidnapped to activate broken into a set of PlotCoupons. Prince Peasley cockily bets the brothers 99,999,999,999,999 Mushroom Coins that he'll find the coupons first. When the brothers inevitably win the bet, he makes good, but the royal advisor checks the exchange rates and reveals that their massive winnings amount to... 99 Beanbean Coins, meaning that somehow the Mushroom Kingdom currency's value relative to the Beanbean Kingdom's fell to '''a trillionth''' of it's original value. This means one of two things: either A)the Mushroom Kingdom economy collapsed entirely during the day or two that Peach was kidnapped, or B)''both'' economies were in dire straits at the beginning of the game and the value of the Beanbean Coin was artificially reset during the course of the game to prevent the Beanbean economy from crashing. Either way it doesn't speak well of Peach's ability to rule her kingdom even when she's ''not'' kidnapped. That, or Prince Peasley was lying to them to avoid paying up on a lost bet and counting on them not understanding economics. [[TakeAThirdOption Or, alternatively,]] the whole thing was a scam. Looking at the price of items in this game compared to the price of the same items in other games in the series, the exchange rate appears to be nearly 1:1. This points toward both the scam artist AND Peasley lying about it. Otherwise, the whole "exchange rate" is completely arbitrary.
23rd May '17 6:11:50 PM Saber15
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* The ''[[VideoGame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' takes the trope UpToEleven in that the economy doesn't work InUniverse either ([[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard without cheating a bit, that is]]). Special mention goes to the Terrans in ''X3: Terran Conflict'', who are guaranteed to essentially go bankrupt without a player-owned trade network propping them up. Sadly, the implications of a superpower being economically controlled by an NGOSuperpower MegaCorp owned by the player are beyond the scope of the game.

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* The ''[[VideoGame/{{X}} X-Universe]]'' takes the trope UpToEleven in that the economy doesn't work InUniverse either ([[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard without cheating a bit, that is]]).is]]); no actual 'money' changes hands with NPC traders, and NPC solar power plants [[NotPlayingFairWithResources require no resources]] to make energy cells unlike player owned ones. Special mention goes to the Terrans in ''X3: Terran Conflict'', who are guaranteed to essentially go bankrupt without a player-owned trade network propping them up. Sadly, the implications of a superpower being economically controlled by an NGOSuperpower MegaCorp owned by the player are beyond the scope of the game.
** The economy is even more comically broken in the ''Albion Prelude'' ExpansionPack, which adds a stock market (which has absolutely no bearing on actual commodity trading). Companies cannot go bankrupt, so investing in garbage-rated company is a 100% sound investment with ''guaranteed'' profit at some point, it's just a matter of waiting. You can stuff a MileLongShip full of rare goods, causing the "supply" of a commodity to skyrocket with a corresponding plummet in stock prices. Buy a few thousand stocks, then move the ship out of the stock market jurisdiction and watch the stock prices go through the roof because there is no longer a "supply" of the commodity.
20th Apr '17 1:54:51 AM Alceister
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** It is more about providing bribes (which are "insignificant" by civilization standards) to promote certain industries.

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** It One way of looking at it is more about providing bribes (which that incentives are "insignificant" provided -- in a manner insignificant by civilization standards) gameplay standards -- to promote certain industries.
20th Apr '17 1:18:11 AM Alceister
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** This was also implied for much of humanity during the Dark Age of Technology, which coincided with the latter years of Eldar supremacy. Using Standard Template Constructs, it was possible to build almost anything from local materials, from basic farming equipment and habitats, to highly sophisticated feats of engineering like tapping magma for industry and power generation. This also included sophisticated artificial intelligences, which turned out to be [[AIIsACrapshoot too intelligent]] and [[RobotWar rebelled]].

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** This was also implied for much of humanity during the Dark Age of Technology, which coincided with the latter years of Eldar supremacy. Using Standard Template Constructs, it was possible to build almost anything from local materials, from basic farming equipment and habitats, to highly sophisticated feats of engineering like tapping magma for industry and power generation. This also included sophisticated artificial intelligences, which turned out to be [[AIIsACrapshoot too intelligent]] and but flawed artificial intelligences]], which later [[RobotWar rebelled]].
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