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21st May '17 10:41:06 AM nombretomado
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In RealLife, this has often been the makeup of armies throughout history. Military life in the ranks was just too distasteful for someone to volunteer for it that didn't find civilian life just as hard unless he was motivated by ideology. When there was no ideological reason and no BarbarianTribe nearby to recruit from, this is what you are going to end up with. The pay was simply not good enough to attract respectable people, unless they were from [[OfficerAndAGentleman nobility]]; which sometimes had ''ancestors'' who were part of one of these. On the other hand, assembling them into a [[TrainingFromHell properly trained army]] was a rather hard task not only for reasons of literacy or discipline, but also due to the spread of chronic disease in a population with poor or no access to medical care and proper feeding and living conditions. A recruit from the poorest class in the [[VictorianBritain Victorian Era]] could be expected to have either latent [[VictorianNovelDisease tuberculosis]], syphilis, gonorrhea, bone diseases, or, worse, [[UpToEleven all of them together]], and in crowded military camps germs are easily spread. (The ordinary peasant recruit of the State army was not much healthier either. The British Army Medical Corps [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boer_Wars#Controversy_and_significance found out in 1899]] ''the majority'' of recruits were unfit for combat, even by the low standards of the time.)

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In RealLife, this has often been the makeup of armies throughout history. Military life in the ranks was just too distasteful for someone to volunteer for it that didn't find civilian life just as hard unless he was motivated by ideology. When there was no ideological reason and no BarbarianTribe nearby to recruit from, this is what you are going to end up with. The pay was simply not good enough to attract respectable people, unless they were from [[OfficerAndAGentleman nobility]]; which sometimes had ''ancestors'' who were part of one of these. On the other hand, assembling them into a [[TrainingFromHell properly trained army]] was a rather hard task not only for reasons of literacy or discipline, but also due to the spread of chronic disease in a population with poor or no access to medical care and proper feeding and living conditions. A recruit from the poorest class in the [[VictorianBritain [[UsefulNotes/VictorianBritain Victorian Era]] could be expected to have either latent [[VictorianNovelDisease tuberculosis]], syphilis, gonorrhea, bone diseases, or, worse, [[UpToEleven all of them together]], and in crowded military camps germs are easily spread. (The ordinary peasant recruit of the State army was not much healthier either. The British Army Medical Corps [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boer_Wars#Controversy_and_significance found out in 1899]] ''the majority'' of recruits were unfit for combat, even by the low standards of the time.)
21st May '17 7:47:16 AM LadyJaneGrey
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What you get when you take a RagtagBandOfMisfits bands up with ''other'' Ragtag Bands of Misfits.

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What you get when you take a RagtagBandOfMisfits bands and band them up with ''other'' Ragtag Bands of Misfits.
21st May '17 7:42:06 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* From ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', [[spoiler: the [[BigDamnHeroes army besieging Aku's tower]] in the FinalEpisode fits the bill. While some, like the [[BraveScott Scotsman's family]] and the Spartans are trained and skilled fighters, many are simply allies of Jack under Aku's rule with nothing to lose, including [[BadassPacifist Monkey-Boy's tribe]], the [[FreeRangeChildren Rave kids]], the [[PettingZooPeople dog archaeologists]], the [[HandicappedBadass Blind Archers]], and [[FishPeople the Triceraquins]].]]

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* From ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', [[spoiler: the [[BigDamnHeroes army besieging Aku's tower]] in the FinalEpisode SeriesFinale fits the bill. While some, like the [[BraveScott [[BraveScot Scotsman's family]] and the Spartans are trained and skilled fighters, many are simply allies of Jack under Aku's rule with nothing to lose, including [[BadassPacifist Monkey-Boy's tribe]], the [[FreeRangeChildren Rave kids]], ravers]], the [[PettingZooPeople dog archaeologists]], the [[HandicappedBadass Blind Archers]], and [[FishPeople the Triceraquins]].Triceraquins]] with a HumongousMecha thrown in for good measure.]]
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21st May '17 5:49:44 AM LadyJaneGrey
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What you get when you take a RagtagBandOfMisfits bands up with ''other'' Ragtag Bands of Misfits.


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* From ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', [[spoiler: the [[BigDamnHeroes army besieging Aku's tower]] in the FinalEpisode fits the bill. While some, like the [[BraveScott Scotsman's family]] and the Spartans are trained and skilled fighters, many are simply allies of Jack under Aku's rule with nothing to lose, including [[BadassPacifist Monkey-Boy's tribe]], the [[FreeRangeChildren Rave kids]], the [[PettingZooPeople dog archaeologists]], the [[HandicappedBadass Blind Archers]], and [[FishPeople the Triceraquins]].]]
16th Apr '17 6:24:32 PM nombretomado
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* The Maquis in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' and ''StarTrekVoyager'' is a milder example. Sure, there are people like Chakotay, Cal Hudson and Michael Eddington who deeply believe the cause is just and noble. But there are also Starfleet washouts, thieves, headcases, folks with ''severe'' anger management issues, and sociopathic killers. As Chakotay points out when one of his former crew turns out be the last one, they didn't have the luxury of sending out applications - if you could wield a phaser or fly a ship they'd take you.

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* The Maquis in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' and ''StarTrekVoyager'' ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' is a milder example. Sure, there are people like Chakotay, Cal Hudson and Michael Eddington who deeply believe the cause is just and noble. But there are also Starfleet washouts, thieves, headcases, folks with ''severe'' anger management issues, and sociopathic killers. As Chakotay points out when one of his former crew turns out be the last one, they didn't have the luxury of sending out applications - if you could wield a phaser or fly a ship they'd take you.
25th Feb '17 1:27:36 PM Yukianesa
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** Night Lords Traitor Legion before Horus Heresy. Pretty much any newly-made traitor Astartes probably fall here as well.
** Dark Eldar, essentially Drow in space. Despite their appearance, their raids in material space have perfect discipline, for they all too are well aware what will happen to them shall they die.

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** Night Lords Traitor Legion before Horus Heresy. Pretty much any newly-made traitor Astartes probably fall here as well.
** Dark Eldar, essentially Drow in space. Despite their appearance, their raids in material space have perfect discipline, for they all too are well aware what will happen to them shall they die. die.
** All of these pale in comparison to the Night Lords. Most pre-Heresy legions recruited from maximum security prisons as policy, but even the Night Lords had a reputation for being extra-awful psychos, a legion for the ''real'' scum who would be rejected from any of the other legions and only allowed due to the Night Lords' lax recruitment standards. These guys were so bad that their Primarch Konrad Curze - think a mix of Franchise/{{Batman}}, Franchise/ThePunisher and [[Film/ApocalypseNow Kurtz]] as an AxCrazy giant demigod whose ''modus operandi'' was to be the worst person on his planet so nobody else could take his place and ended up brutally murdering every single criminal until the sewers were blocked by mutilated body parts, ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards hated what the Night Lords legion became]]''. It's even implied that Curze actually allowed an Imperial assassin to kill him because he was ''that'' deeply horrified by what he'd created. The Night Lords basically run on this trope played for NightmareFuel and it's hardly surprising they fell to Chaos.
1st Feb '17 12:31:19 PM Xtifr
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* In TheNightAngelTrilogy In the second and third books [[spoiler: Logan]] essentially puts this together. Some of them become his bodyguards, others go back to the life they had for a bit, but mostly, he does this to redeem the once crime ridden country and give it hope for a corruption light future.
* In the {{Literature/Emberverse}}, Norman Arminger recruits motorcycle gang members into his army to act as enforcers, and become part of his aristocracy, while establishing the Portland Protective Association.

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* In TheNightAngelTrilogy In ''Literature/TheNightAngelTrilogy'', in the second and third books [[spoiler: Logan]] essentially puts this together. Some of them become his bodyguards, others go back to the life they had for a bit, but mostly, he does this to redeem the once crime ridden country and give it hope for a corruption light future.
* In the {{Literature/Emberverse}}, Literature/{{Emberverse}}, Norman Arminger recruits motorcycle gang members into his army to act as enforcers, and become part of his aristocracy, while establishing the Portland Protective Association.
26th Jan '17 6:36:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* The [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Umbrella Corporation]] has multiple mercenary units. The Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service, first introduced in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis'' is comprised largely of convicts, including death row inmates. While their stated goal was to rescue personnel trapped in Raccoon City, it's revealed in-game that the real reason Umbrella sent them in was [[RedShirtArmy so they'd get slaughtered]], allowing the corporation to evaluate the military applications of their various monsters.

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* ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'': The [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Umbrella Corporation]] Corporation has multiple mercenary units. The Umbrella Biohazard Countermeasure Service, first introduced in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis'' is comprised largely of convicts, including death row inmates. While their stated goal was to rescue personnel trapped in Raccoon City, it's revealed in-game that the real reason Umbrella sent them in was [[RedShirtArmy so they'd get slaughtered]], allowing the corporation to evaluate the military applications of their various monsters.
26th Jan '17 6:35:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''StarCraft'', approximately 50% of the enlisted in the armed forces of the Confederacy of Man/Terran Dominion are brainwashed criminals (running the gamut from thieves and murderers to the occasional political prisoner).

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* In ''StarCraft'', ''VideoGame/StarCraft'', approximately 50% of the enlisted in the armed forces of the Confederacy of Man/Terran Dominion are brainwashed criminals (running the gamut from thieves and murderers to the occasional political prisoner).
27th Dec '16 6:40:14 AM Spotts1701
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* The Maquis in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' and ''StarTrekVoyager'' is a milder example. Sure, there are people like Chakotay, Cal Hudson and Michael Eddington who deeply believe the cause is just and noble. But there are also Starfleet washouts, thieves, headcases, folks with ''severe'' anger management issues, and sociopathic killers. As he points out when one of his former crew turns out be the last one, they didn't have the luxury of sending out applications - if you could wield a phaser or fly a ship they'd take you.

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* The Maquis in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' and ''StarTrekVoyager'' is a milder example. Sure, there are people like Chakotay, Cal Hudson and Michael Eddington who deeply believe the cause is just and noble. But there are also Starfleet washouts, thieves, headcases, folks with ''severe'' anger management issues, and sociopathic killers. As he Chakotay points out when one of his former crew turns out be the last one, they didn't have the luxury of sending out applications - if you could wield a phaser or fly a ship they'd take you.
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