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7th Dec '17 11:51:19 PM LadyArin
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* In ''FiddlerOnTheRoof'', Tevye gets angry when his daughter Tzeitel begs him not to [[ArrangedMarriage force her to marry]] [[OldManMarryingAChild the town butcher]].
-->'''Tevye''': [[IGaveMyWord We made an agreement! Between us, an agreement is an agreement!]]
-->'''Tzeitel''': Is that more important than ''I'' am, Papa?
13th Nov '17 2:19:43 PM MasterFuzzy
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* The Book of Job features a famous example from God Himself. The premise of the book: [[FriendlyEnemies Satan is having a chat with God in Heaven]] after the former has been out and about in the human world. God points out Job, His faithful servant, and Satan argues that Job is only faithful because God has blessed him with wealth, health, and many children; if he lost all of that, he would surely turn against the Divine. God accepts the challenge and tells Satan that he's free to hurt Job however he likes, [[ThouShallNotKill as long as he doesn't murder him]]. Soon after, Job's sons and daughters are killed, he loses everything he has, and he's struck with festering boils and illness. At the end of the book, Job, who's been TheStoic throughout, finally asks God why he's being punished. God replies as such: "Where were ''you'' when I laid the foundations of the earth?" In other words, TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow, and God is so beyond mortal comprehension that humans can't even ''begin'' to grasp His workings. Job repents, acknowledges God's mastery, and admits his own limited wisdom; this pleases God, who rewards Job with more prosperity and children.

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* The Book of Job features a famous example from God Himself. The premise of the book: [[FriendlyEnemies Satan is having a chat with God in Heaven]] Heaven after the former has been out and about in the human world. God points out Job, His faithful servant, and Satan argues that Job is only faithful because God has blessed him with wealth, health, and many children; if he lost all of that, he would surely turn against the Divine. God accepts the challenge and tells Satan that he's free to hurt Job however he likes, [[ThouShallNotKill as long as he doesn't murder him]]. Soon after, Job's sons and daughters are killed, he loses everything he has, and he's struck with festering boils and illness. At the end of the book, Job, who's been TheStoic throughout, finally asks God why he's being punished. God replies as such: "Where were ''you'' when I laid the foundations of the earth?" In other words, TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow, and God is so beyond mortal comprehension that humans can't even ''begin'' to grasp His workings. Job repents, acknowledges God's mastery, and admits his own limited wisdom; this pleases God, who rewards Job with more prosperity and children.



-->"You took pity on the kikayon, for which you did not toil nor did you make it grow, which one night came into being and the next night perished. Now should I not [[{{Forgiveness}} take pity]] on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are many more than 120,000 people who [[ObliviouslyEvil do not know their right hand from their left]], and many beasts as well?"

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-->"You took pity on the kikayon, kikayon[[note]] a kind of tree, species unknown[[/note]], for which you did not toil nor did you make it grow, which one night came into being and the next night perished. Now should I not [[{{Forgiveness}} take pity]] on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are many more than 120,000 people who [[ObliviouslyEvil do not know their right hand from their left]], and many beasts as well?"
17th Oct '17 1:59:45 PM xcountryguy
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** Also, asking one of these of Rin is the key to getting her good ending. [[spoiler: Rin laments that what she really wants is for someone to understand her well enough to not have to ask her questions; Hisao asks, "But if you found someone like that, then what?"]]

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** Also, asking one of these of Rin is the key to getting her good ending. [[spoiler: Rin [[spoiler:Rin laments that what she really wants is for someone to understand her well enough to not have to ask her questions; Hisao asks, "But if you found someone like that, then what?"]]



* [[ButtMonkey Youhei]], of all people, gets one of these in Kyou's route in ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}}'', when he forces Tomoya to confront the fact that [[spoiler: the Fujibayashi sister he is dating is not the one he actually cares for]].

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* [[ButtMonkey Youhei]], of all people, gets one of these in Kyou's route in ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}}'', when he forces Tomoya to confront the fact that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Fujibayashi sister he is dating is not the one he actually cares for]].
28th Sep '17 8:55:39 PM JoeMerl
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-->"You took pity on the kikayon, for which you did not toil nor did you make it grow, which one night came into being and the next night perished. Now should I [[{{Forgiveness}} not take pity]] on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are many more than 120,000 people who [[ObliviouslyEvil do not know their right hand from their left]], and many beasts as well?"

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-->"You took pity on the kikayon, for which you did not toil nor did you make it grow, which one night came into being and the next night perished. Now should I not [[{{Forgiveness}} not take pity]] on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are many more than 120,000 people who [[ObliviouslyEvil do not know their right hand from their left]], and many beasts as well?"
28th Sep '17 8:54:56 PM JoeMerl
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* The Literature/BookOfJonah actually ends with one (which theoretically doesn't count, since [[NoEnding we don't learn Jonah's reaction]]). Jonah is stubbornly waiting for God to destroy the sinful city of Nineveh, despite the fact that its people have now atoned and been forgiven. As he waits, God creates a plant called a kikayon to shade him from the harsh sunlight. The next day, however, God kills the plant, and Jonah, burning up in the sun, cries out in despair. God's response:
-->"You took pity on the kikayon, for which you did not toil nor did you make it grow, which one night came into being and the next night perished. Now should I [[{{Forgiveness}} not take pity]] on Nineveh, the great city, in which there are many more than 120,000 people who [[ObliviouslyEvil do not know their right hand from their left]], and many beasts as well?"
2nd Aug '17 7:34:32 AM Nepeta
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** In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations 2'', the new "Logic Chess" system involves having a verbal battle of wits to draw a secret out of someone by way of {{Dialogue Tree}}s rather than presenting evidence and pressing statements. Hits hardest with the final opponent, [[spoiler:Yumihiko Ichiyanagi]], when the point of the final round turns out ''not'' to be acquiring any case-relevant information, but to help find a cause that's enough for a completely broken individual to go on living for.

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** In ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations 2'', the new "Logic Chess" system involves having a verbal battle of wits to draw a secret out of someone by way of {{Dialogue Tree}}s rather than presenting evidence and pressing statements. Hits hardest with the final opponent, [[spoiler:Yumihiko Ichiyanagi]], Ichiyanagi (Sebastian Debeste)]], when the point of the final round turns out ''not'' to be acquiring any case-relevant information, but to help find a cause that's enough for a completely broken individual to go on living for.
3rd Jun '17 8:42:46 PM BobSaget9
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* In ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', Pinkie Pie catches her sister Maud t[[DrivenToSuicide rying kill herself]], after the latter realized she could no longer pretend she's okay with her loner existence, but is too afraid to try making the effort of changing her life, prompting this exchange:
--> '''Maud:''' I decided to end my life, rather than undertake the monumental task of salvaging it.
--> '''Pinkie:''' But you're going die one day anyway?
--> '''Maud:''' Obviously, what's your point?
--> '''Pinkie:''' My point is that if death is certain anyway, then what's the harm in trying to live a little longer? At the very worst, you'll still end up dead like you wanted, but at best you might actually be happy.

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* In ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', Pinkie Pie catches her sister Maud t[[DrivenToSuicide rying [[DrivenToSuicide trying kill herself]], after the latter realized she could no longer pretend she's okay with her loner existence, but is too afraid to try making the effort of changing her life, prompting this exchange:
--> '''Maud:''' -->'''Maud:''' I decided to end my life, rather than undertake the monumental task of salvaging it.
--> '''Pinkie:''' -->'''Pinkie:''' But you're going die one day anyway?
--> '''Maud:''' -->'''Maud:''' Obviously, what's your point?
--> '''Pinkie:''' -->'''Pinkie:''' My point is that if death is certain anyway, then what's the harm in trying to live a little longer? At the very worst, you'll still end up dead like you wanted, but at best you might actually be happy.
2nd Jun '17 2:37:14 PM mkmlp
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** After being subjected to a particularly harsh prank that made her think she ''[[DisproportionateRetribution killed everyone she cared about]]'' to teach her a lesson about [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness acting out character]] by the rest of the town, Rainbow Dash asks them if that was out of character of ''them''. Cue horrifying realization.
16th May '17 5:48:23 PM mkmlp
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* In ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', Pinkie Pie catches her sister Maud trying kill herself, after the latter realized [[DrivenToSuicide could no longer pretend she's okay with her loner existence, but is too afraid to try making the effort of changing her life]], prompting this exchange:

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* In ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', Pinkie Pie catches her sister Maud trying t[[DrivenToSuicide rying kill herself, herself]], after the latter realized [[DrivenToSuicide she could no longer pretend she's okay with her loner existence, but is too afraid to try making the effort of changing her life]], life, prompting this exchange:
16th May '17 5:44:41 PM mkmlp
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* In ''WebVideo/MyLittlePonyTotallyLegitRecap'', Pinkie Pie catches her sister Maud trying kill herself, after the latter realized [[DrivenToSuicide could no longer pretend she's okay with her loner existence, but is too afraid to try making the effort of changing her life]], prompting this exchange:
--> '''Maud:''' I decided to end my life, rather than undertake the monumental task of salvaging it.
--> '''Pinkie:''' But you're going die one day anyway?
--> '''Maud:''' Obviously, what's your point?
--> '''Pinkie:''' My point is that if death is certain anyway, then what's the harm in trying to live a little longer? At the very worst, you'll still end up dead like you wanted, but at best you might actually be happy.
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