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13th Mar '17 7:45:28 PM Anorgil
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* Not the fault of the armor, but human psychology can make armor useless. People tend to react to increased safety by ''taking more risk'', in an unconscious attempt to balance risk versus reward (riskier behavior is offset by safety equipment like armor, resulting in increased reward for the same amount of risk); this is called the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peltzman_effect Peltzman effect]]. The problem is that a) risky behavior may transfer the risk to {{Innocent Bystander}}s rather than the one wearing the safety equipment, and b) people are ''really bad'' at judging risk, meaning that instead of balancing out, safety equipment + risky behavior may actually be significantly ''more'' dangerous than no safety equipment + no risky behavior.

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* Not the fault of the armor, but human psychology can make armor useless.useless or worse. People tend to react to increased safety by ''taking more risk'', in an unconscious attempt to balance risk versus reward (riskier behavior is offset by safety equipment like armor, resulting in increased reward for the same amount of risk); this is called the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peltzman_effect Peltzman effect]]. The problem is that a) risky behavior may transfer the risk to {{Innocent Bystander}}s rather than the one wearing the safety equipment, and b) people are ''really bad'' at judging risk, meaning that instead of balancing out, safety equipment + risky behavior may actually be significantly ''more'' dangerous than no safety equipment + no risky behavior.
9th Mar '17 12:51:46 AM Filosera
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** Erza has an... ''interesting'' relationship with this trope. While she tends to play it straight in the later parts of the manga, it's also subverted in that while her armor tends to be pretty useless as ''armor'', it's often tremendously useful as a ''stat buff'' or for the moves unique to a given armor set, some of which are very much not useless defensively (e.g. nullifying a several-story-building-sized magic cannon shot down to nothing with the Adamantine Armor).
16th Feb '17 8:27:24 AM 1810072342
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* In ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'', only one playable character wears armour (discounting [[spoiler: Omega, on account of being a robot]]). She has one of the lowest defences of the non SquishyWizard characters.
5th Feb '17 10:45:56 AM DustSnitch
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/KuboAndTheTwoStrings''; Kubo's quest is to find his father's armor as it is the only thing that can protect him from his enemies. And in fact the armor helps Kubo to survive the attacks by the Moon King.
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1st Feb '17 7:18:59 PM lorgskyegon
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*** Of course, this all goes beyond the fact that many modern torpedoes aren't designed to strike a ship, but instead explode directly underneath it. The shockwave in the water will move so much water away from the ship that it will literally bend and break under its own weight.
27th Jan '17 2:45:50 AM jormis29
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* In ''[[TabletopGame/{{Mordheim}} Mordheim: City of the Damned]]'', you'll only rarely see players kit up their fighters in heavy armour. You'd be amazed just how many weapons can bypass armour - many of them are the kind of hefty, two-handed weapons that nimble and lightly-armoured fighters with good dodging skills would laugh at. Plus more obviously it limits the wearer's mobility, meaning they can't move very far per turn and are also more prone to falling and hurting themselves when trying to traverse ledges and gaps. Heavy armour does become fairly useful on fighters who expect to wade into heated melees with multiple opponents due to the limit on how many attacks the fighter can possibly dodge, but for one-on-one scraps and general exploration and looting, the extra mobility is way more useful.

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* In ''[[TabletopGame/{{Mordheim}} Mordheim: City of the Damned]]'', ''VideoGame/MordheimCityOfTheDamned'', you'll only rarely see players kit up their fighters in heavy armour. You'd be amazed just how many weapons can bypass armour - many of them are the kind of hefty, two-handed weapons that nimble and lightly-armoured fighters with good dodging skills would laugh at. Plus more obviously it limits the wearer's mobility, meaning they can't move very far per turn and are also more prone to falling and hurting themselves when trying to traverse ledges and gaps. Heavy armour does become fairly useful on fighters who expect to wade into heated melees with multiple opponents due to the limit on how many attacks the fighter can possibly dodge, but for one-on-one scraps and general exploration and looting, the extra mobility is way more useful.
25th Jan '17 4:41:06 AM Saveelich
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** In ''Film/RogueOne'', Chirrut Îmmwe manages to kick much Stomrtrooper ass with ''[[SimpleStaff a staff]]''.

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** In ''Film/RogueOne'', Chirrut Îmmwe Îmwe manages to kick much Stomrtrooper ass with ''[[SimpleStaff a staff]]''.
25th Jan '17 4:40:29 AM Saveelich
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** In ''Film/RogueOne'', Chirrut Îmmwe manages to kick much Stomrtrooper ass with ''[[SimpleStaff a staff]]''.
19th Jan '17 9:30:21 PM Blazer
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* In ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'', Chang's Bird of Prey rattles the hell out of the ''Enterprise'' with its Photon Torpedo barrage. Even before the shields fully collapse and the saucer section take a critical strike, the ship is littered with burned marks and is powerful enough to damage auxiliary power.
17th Jan '17 4:51:10 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** [[AvertedTrope Averted, so hard,]] with [[GenreSavvy Orange Lantern,]] who wears high grade body armor under his Ring-generated armor, which wound up saving his life. He also [[LampshadeHanging points out]] that Robin and Kid Flash have Kevlar incorporated in their costumes, and later convinces Kaldur to wear Ocean Master's armor in battle after he claimed it as spoils of war, and arranged for Artemis and Zatanna to acquire proper armor of their own. And Kon, despite the whole "near-invulnerable kryptonian" thing, received a set of armor with Nth metal in the Paragon timeline, increasing his durability and allowing him the power of flight. In Renegade, Kon has Apokolipitian armor despite being [[spoiler: full Kryptonian.]] On top of all that, when stealth goes out the window, one of the first thing OL usually does is cover the entire team in Construct-armor. So far only [[VoluntaryShapeshifting M'gann]] is the only one he hasn't convinced to wear extra plating in the field, and that's more of her powerset not being suitable for it than anything else.

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** [[AvertedTrope Averted, so hard,]] hard]], with [[GenreSavvy Orange Lantern,]] Lantern, who wears high grade body armor under his Ring-generated armor, which wound up saving his life. He also [[LampshadeHanging points out]] that Robin and Kid Flash have Kevlar incorporated in their costumes, and later convinces Kaldur to wear Ocean Master's armor in battle after he claimed it as spoils of war, and arranged for Artemis and Zatanna to acquire proper armor of their own. And Kon, despite the whole "near-invulnerable kryptonian" thing, received a set of armor with Nth metal in the Paragon timeline, increasing his durability and allowing him the power of flight. In Renegade, Kon has Apokolipitian armor despite being [[spoiler: full Kryptonian.]] On top of all that, when stealth goes out the window, one of the first thing OL usually does is cover the entire team in Construct-armor. So far only [[VoluntaryShapeshifting M'gann]] is the only one he hasn't convinced to wear extra plating in the field, and that's more of her powerset not being suitable for it than anything else.
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