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15th Oct '17 2:26:41 PM KTera
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* ''VideoGame/FarCry3'' Has you fight pirates and privateers with everything from pistols and rifles to flamethrowers and grenades but one of the best weapons in game is a recursive hunting bow, despite the fact that it can be hard to aim it. Justified because it is completely silent, you can recover the ammo from enemies and it is designed to bring down tigers and other large predators. For similar reasons stealthily killing your enemies with your machete is often much better than picking them off with silenced firearms: you don't have to worry about people realizing they're being shot at, it doesn't use ammo, take downs are an insta-kill and there are a variety of upgrades allowing takedown to be used in a variety of situations (such as jumping on enemies, booby-trapping them, killing heavies etc.)

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* ''VideoGame/FarCry3'' Has you fight pirates and privateers with everything from pistols and rifles to flamethrowers and grenades but one of the best weapons in game is a recursive recurve hunting bow, despite the fact that it can be hard to aim it. Justified because it is completely silent, you can recover the ammo from enemies and it is designed to bring down tigers and other large predators. For similar reasons stealthily killing your enemies with your machete is often much better than picking them off with silenced firearms: you don't have to worry about people realizing they're being shot at, it doesn't use ammo, take downs are an insta-kill and there are a variety of upgrades allowing takedown to be used in a variety of situations (such as jumping on enemies, booby-trapping them, killing heavies etc.)



* In ''VideoGame/XCOM2'', it's the year 2035, you're fighting to free Earth from alien occupation using stolen and reverse-engineered alien weapons, and your Ranger-class soldiers go into battle with a machete. Rangers are stealth and close-combat specialists (their other weapon being a ShortRangeShotgun, so they are bound to be at close range in any case and blades are relatively silent.

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* In ''VideoGame/XCOM2'', it's the year 2035, you're fighting to free Earth from alien occupation using stolen and reverse-engineered alien weapons, and your Ranger-class soldiers go into battle with a machete. Rangers are stealth and close-combat specialists (their other weapon being a ShortRangeShotgun, ShortRangeShotgun), so they are bound to be at close range in any case and blades are relatively silent.silent.
** In the ''War of the Chosen'' DLC, the Assassin, a genetically-engineered alien soldier, uses a [[KatanasAreJustBetter katana]] that ignores armour and never missses. The head of your science department can't even identify what it's made of.
25th Sep '17 6:43:04 PM Octorok103
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* Space pirates in ''[[VideoGame/MetroidPrime MetroidPrime]]'' have an arm cannon on one arm and a large hand scythe on the other one. Shadow pirates, who have the ability to turn invisible, only use the hand scythe.

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* Space pirates in ''[[VideoGame/MetroidPrime MetroidPrime]]'' ''VideoGame/MetroidPrime'' have an arm cannon on one arm and a large hand scythe on the other one. Shadow pirates, who have the ability to turn invisible, only use the hand scythe.



* The Tenno weaponry in ''Videogame/{{Warframe}}'' is deliberately low-tech, because their original enemies, the Sentients, were able to easily subvert high-tech weaponry. The Tenno continue to use a huge range of low-tech melee and projectile weapons to the present day, partially because of tradition and partially due to the fact that they're still deadly-effective in the hands of [[OneManArmy creatures as badass as Tenno]].

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* The Tenno weaponry in ''Videogame/{{Warframe}}'' is deliberately low-tech, because their original enemies, the Sentients, were able to easily subvert high-tech weaponry. The Tenno continue to use a huge range of low-tech melee and projectile weapons to the present day, partially because of tradition and partially due to because the fact that they're weapons are still deadly-effective in the hands of [[OneManArmy creatures as badass as Tenno]].Tenno]]. The Grineer Empire also relies on low-tech weaponry, but only because they lack the technology and know-how to create more advanced weapons; while Tenno designs are sleek and elegant, Grineer equipment looks like it's been cobbled together out of scraps (which likely isn't all that far off from the truth).
22nd Sep '17 1:31:45 PM ZemplinTemplar
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* The sword still saw plenty of use, at least for cavalry and officers, well into the 19th century. When most firearms were single shot, mechanically unreliable, and/or difficult to reload, it was helpful to have a weapon that didn't jam or run out of bullets. Horse cavalry with swords and lances were obsolescent in WWI (although the Battle of Armageddon in 1918 was decided by an improvised Canadian cavalry charge), and swords saw little use in WWII -- although the Poles in the early war, and the Germans and Russians down to the end, used rifle-armed cavalry to very good effect. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill And there was also that one guy with a longbow and a claymore]].

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* The sword still saw plenty of use, at least for cavalry and officers, well into the 19th century. When most firearms were single shot, mechanically unreliable, and/or difficult to reload, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzypKZlEwS4 it was helpful helpful]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKHdJfnM9rA to have a weapon weapon]] that didn't jam or run out of bullets. Horse cavalry with swords and lances were obsolescent in WWI (although the Battle of Armageddon in 1918 was decided by an improvised Canadian cavalry charge), and swords saw little use in WWII -- although the Poles in the early war, and the Germans and Russians down to the end, used rifle-armed cavalry to very good effect. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill And there was also that one guy with a longbow and a claymore]].basket-hilted broadsword]].
5th Sep '17 4:11:35 AM HalcyonDayz
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** In the shuttle {{PVP}} added in the Season 8.5 update, the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]-era Type F shuttle is considered one of the top competitors, regularly beating players flying ''Peregrine''-class attack fighters or runabouts from Series/DS9. This is roughly the equivalent of a UsefulNotes/WorldWarI biplane shooting down an F-22.

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** In the shuttle {{PVP}} added in the Season 8.5 update, the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries TOS]]-era Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries-era Type F shuttle is considered one of the top competitors, regularly beating players flying ''Peregrine''-class attack fighters or runabouts from Series/DS9.Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine. This is roughly the equivalent of a UsefulNotes/WorldWarI biplane shooting down an F-22.
5th Sep '17 3:22:58 AM HalcyonDayz
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** Most Giant Robots, instead of using a handheld weapon, mount a BladeBeneathTheShoulder in a retractable housing. German mechs are starting to carry vibro-axes, electrified maces, kinetic hammers, and plasma whips into battle however; along with shields that can mount missile launchers.

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** Most Giant Robots, instead of using a handheld weapon, mount a BladeBeneathTheShoulder BladeBelowTheShoulder in a retractable housing. German mechs are starting to carry vibro-axes, electrified maces, kinetic hammers, and plasma whips into battle however; along with shields that can mount missile launchers.



** For similar reasons, units like the [[AmazonBrigade 588th Night Bomber Regiment]] (Night Witches) in the Soviet Union could use interwar-era Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes. Though hopelessly obsolete compared to Messerschmitts or even the aforementioned Swordfish, these planes proved to be tremendously manouevrable and capable of extended unpowered gliding, permitting them to approach German positions without any noise beyond the wind in the wings; their low top speed, below the stall speed of German fighters, made them exceptionally difficult to intercept in the air; and their simple but sturdy construction made them exceptionally durable and resilient under enemy fire. Their nightly harassment thus caused the German invaders no end of grief, and led to a psychological and morale impact on the Wehrmacht far out of proportion to the actual material losses inflicted. They proved their effectiveness as night bombers again in the Korean War, where the wooden airframe of the "[[ReportingNames Bedcheck Charlie]]" gave the venerable biplane another significant advantage in modern warfare - a negligible radar cross-section that made detection no easier than it had been for the Germans, in spite of now-ubiquitous radar systems.

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** For similar reasons, units like the [[AmazonBrigade 588th Night Bomber Regiment]] (Night Witches) in the Soviet Union could use interwar-era Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes. Though hopelessly obsolete compared to Messerschmitts or even the aforementioned Swordfish, these planes proved to be tremendously manouevrable maneuverable and capable of extended unpowered gliding, permitting them to approach German positions without any noise beyond the wind in the wings; their low top speed, below the stall speed of German fighters, made them exceptionally difficult to intercept in the air; and their simple but sturdy construction made them exceptionally durable and resilient under enemy fire. Their nightly harassment thus caused the German invaders no end of grief, and led to a psychological and morale impact on the Wehrmacht far out of proportion to the actual material losses inflicted. They proved their effectiveness as night bombers again in the Korean War, where the wooden airframe of the "[[ReportingNames Bedcheck Charlie]]" gave the venerable biplane another significant advantage in modern warfare - a negligible radar cross-section that made detection no easier than it had been for the Germans, in spite of now-ubiquitous radar systems.



** Both Great Britain and the Soviet Union had obsolete heavy machine guns left over from UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. The Russian Maxim and the British Vickers were effectively the same weapon, but one which required two or three men to transport, emplace and fire. It was also water-cooled, so if no water was available the weapon would overheat and become unworkable.[[note]] Some second-line German units also continued to use pre-1935 vintage [=MG08=] and [=MG08/15=] guns, which as the model numbers indicate, had first been intruduced in 1908 and been modified as a lighter gun in 1915.[[/note]] The German [=MG42=] was air-cooled, had a faster rate of fire, could be emplaced in seconds as opposed to fifteen minutes, and used by one man. Both Britain and Russia eventually hit on massing these weapons together to minimize these weaknesses and to provide saturation firepower, effectively using them almost as emplaced artillery and not as tactical infantry [=MG=]. British machine-gun battalions proved destructively efficient in Italy, where multiples of 64 Vickers [=MGs=] fired together at one section of German front to soften it up for an attack, allowing the attacking infantry to get as close as they could whilst returning fire was suppressed.

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** Both Great Britain and the Soviet Union had obsolete heavy machine guns left over from UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. The Russian Maxim and the British Vickers were effectively the same weapon, but one which required two or three men to transport, emplace and fire. It was also water-cooled, so if no water was available the weapon would overheat and become unworkable.[[note]] Some second-line German units also continued to use pre-1935 vintage [=MG08=] and [=MG08/15=] guns, which as the model numbers indicate, had first been intruduced introduced in 1908 and been modified as a lighter gun in 1915.[[/note]] The German [=MG42=] was air-cooled, had a faster rate of fire, could be emplaced in seconds as opposed to fifteen minutes, and used by one man. Both Britain and Russia eventually hit on massing these weapons together to minimize these weaknesses and to provide saturation firepower, effectively using them almost as emplaced artillery and not as tactical infantry [=MG=]. British machine-gun battalions proved destructively efficient in Italy, where multiples of 64 Vickers [=MGs=] fired together at one section of German front to soften it up for an attack, allowing the attacking infantry to get as close as they could whilst returning fire was suppressed.
29th Aug '17 9:17:14 AM CosmicFerret
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6th Aug '17 7:29:32 AM thatmadork
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** Justified by the prevalence of heavy armour and opponents who are incredibly strong and MadeOfIron, also with the prevalence of Tyranids (alien bug creatures) and Orks (who are AxCrazy enough to relish close combat [[AnAxeToGrind in both senses]]). Power swords, power axes and the PowerFist are relatively light and highly effective, while plasma weapons equally capable of defeating armour at range have their own drawbacks: namely, they are heavy, ammo-extensive and often dangerous to use.
23rd Jun '17 5:46:17 AM bobwolf
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* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Wonder Woman fights with a sword, shield and lasso against WWI Germans using contemporary weapons and tanks. She's shown using her shield to protect herself from machine gun fire and even deflect mortar shells. [[spoiler: It helps that she's a Zeus's daughter.]]

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* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Wonder Woman fights with a sword, shield and lasso against WWI Germans using contemporary weapons and tanks. She's shown using her shield to protect herself from machine gun fire and even deflect mortar shells. [[spoiler: It helps that she's a Zeus's daughter.]]
23rd Jun '17 5:45:48 AM bobwolf
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* ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': Wonder Woman fights with a sword, shield and lasso against WWI Germans using contemporary weapons and tanks. She's shown using her shield to protect herself from machine gun fire and even deflect mortar shells. [[spoiler: It helps that she's a Zeus's daughter.]]
10th Jun '17 8:02:40 AM TheWildWestPyro
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** When the UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar broke out in 1937, the Chinese air force was made up of various biplanes, most prominently the Curtiss Model 68 Hawk III. Although it was outclassed by Japan's Mitsubishi A5M, it was fast and well-armed enough to deal heavy damage to ground and naval targets. Even when China received stronger and faster Polikarpov I-16s from the Soviet Union, nine survived to be used as night fighters in 1940 to defend the wartime capital of Chongqing from Japanese bombers.

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** When the UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar broke out in 1937, the Chinese air force was made up of various biplanes, most prominently the Curtiss Model 68 Hawk III. Although it was outclassed by Japan's Mitsubishi A5M, [=A5M=] carrier fighter, it was fast and well-armed enough to deal heavy damage to ground and naval targets. Even when China received stronger and faster Polikarpov I-16s from the Soviet Union, nine survived to be used as night fighters in 1940 to defend the wartime capital of Chongqing from Japanese bombers.
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