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2nd Feb '16 11:00:49 AM TheUnsquished
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* When a {{Documentary}} (usually a DocumentaryOfLies) wants to portray a position as outdated, it's common to show old StockFootage of that position being promoted. This may be anything from a newsreel to a 1950s educational film and it may be in black and white or washed-out color, but the important thing is that the footage is clearly old enough to be wrong now!
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* When a {{Documentary}} (usually a DocumentaryOfLies) wants to portray a position as outdated, it's common to show old StockFootage of that position being promoted. This may be anything from a newsreel to a 1950s educational film and it may be in black and white or washed-out color, but the important thing is that the footage is clearly old enough to be wrong now!
26th Jan '16 12:03:15 PM JBK405
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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeune Ecole]]''. In the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose ideas are AwesomeButImpractical at best. In later books, their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]
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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeune Ecole]]''. In Ecole]]'', the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose other being the Historical School. The ''jeune ecole'' believe that tactics and strategy have stagnated over time, so new military technologies need to be developed in order to break the stalemate. The historical school believe that any new technology should fit within established paradigms in order to be effective, and criticize the ''jeune ecole'' for supporting new ideas are simple because they '''are''' new. Series protagonist Honor Harrington is a self-professed member of the historical school and regards the ''jeune ecole'''s ideas as AwesomeButImpractical at best. In best, but in the later books, books their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as fruit after the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]] two schools reached across the ideological aisle.
1st Jan '16 6:50:35 PM MissMokushiroku
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removing redundancy
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Appeal To Novelty]] is a logical fallacy where someone claims that a proposal, idea, work, or trend is better or more accurate than what came before, ''solely'' because it is newer or more recent. This argument is often made with regard to technology, where it is often supposed that anything "high tech" is automatically better than anything "low tech." However, technology is all about fulfiling requirements, not just improvement for the sake of improvement -- while a modern tank is faster and has a much more powerful gun than a World War 1 tank, it has inferior obstacle crossing abilities because its design represents a trade-off between visibility and obstacle crossing, and therefore claiming the modern tank is "better" is subject to conditions. This fallacy is the polar opposite of AppealToTradition; Creator/CSLewis called this fallacy chronological snobbery. [[GoodIsOldFashioned Calling goodness "old-fashioned"]] is an insult because of this trope. It is also known as "Appeal to Youth" or "Chronological Snobbery." In some forms of media, Appeal To Novelty occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Appeal To to Novelty]] is a logical fallacy where someone claims that a proposal, idea, work, or trend is better or more accurate than what came before, ''solely'' because it is newer or more recent. This argument is often made with regard to technology, where it is often supposed that anything "high tech" is automatically better than anything "low tech." However, technology is all about fulfiling requirements, not just improvement for the sake of improvement -- while a modern tank is faster and has a much more powerful gun than a World War 1 UsefulNotes/WorldWarI tank, it has inferior obstacle crossing abilities because its design represents a trade-off between visibility and obstacle crossing, and therefore claiming the modern tank is "better" is subject to conditions. This fallacy is the polar opposite of AppealToTradition; Creator/CSLewis called this fallacy chronological snobbery. [[GoodIsOldFashioned Calling goodness "old-fashioned"]] is an insult because of this trope. It is also known as "Appeal to Youth" or "Chronological Snobbery.Youth." In some forms of media, Appeal To to Novelty occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.
11th Oct '15 6:07:10 PM Ulkomaalainen
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everything sounds sexier in correct French
* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeuene Ecole]]''. In the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose ideas are AwesomeButImpractical at best. In later books, their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]
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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeuene Jeune Ecole]]''. In the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose ideas are AwesomeButImpractical at best. In later books, their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]
16th Jun '15 11:33:37 PM Random888
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[[AC:{{Film}}]] * When a {{Documentary}} (usually a DocumentaryOfLies) wants to portray a position as outdated, it's common to show old StockFootage of that position being promoted. This may be anything from a newsreel to a 1950s educational film and it may be in black and white or washed-out color, but the important thing is that the footage is clearly old enough to be wrong now!
7th May '15 3:56:08 PM Wimblesaurus
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subjective and inflammatory
* This fallacy, as an argument entirely in itself, tends to be the main battle cry of, or rationalisation for [[{{Transhuman}} Transhumanism]], not far behind ForScience.
25th Feb '15 1:31:42 PM rjung
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In many works, Appeal To Novelty often occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.
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In many works, some forms of media, Appeal To Novelty often occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.
25th Feb '15 1:30:54 PM rjung
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!!'''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Appeal To Novelty]]''': !!! Also called * Appeal to Youth. * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronological_snobbery Chronological Snobbery]] :: Arguing that one thing is automatically better in every way than another because it is newer. See NewAndImproved. This argument is often made with regard to technology, where it is often supposed that anything "high tech" is automatically better than anything "low tech." Technology is all about fulfiling requirements, however, not just about cross-board improvement; for example, while a modern tank is faster and has a much more powerful gun than a World War 1 tank, it has inferior obstacle crossing abilities because its design represents a trade-off between visibility and obstacle crossing. Creator/CSLewis called this fallacy chronological snobbery. [[GoodIsOldFashioned Calling goodness old-fashioned]] is an insult because of this trope. :: This fallacy is the polar opposite of AppealToTradition. !!! Examples:
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!!'''[[http://en.[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Appeal To Novelty]]''': !!! Also called * Appeal to Youth. * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronological_snobbery Chronological Snobbery]] :: Arguing Novelty]] is a logical fallacy where someone claims that one thing a proposal, idea, work, or trend is automatically better in every way or more accurate than another what came before, ''solely'' because it is newer. See NewAndImproved. newer or more recent. This argument is often made with regard to technology, where it is often supposed that anything "high tech" is automatically better than anything "low tech." Technology " However, technology is all about fulfiling requirements, however, not just about cross-board improvement; improvement for example, the sake of improvement -- while a modern tank is faster and has a much more powerful gun than a World War 1 tank, it has inferior obstacle crossing abilities because its design represents a trade-off between visibility and obstacle crossing. crossing, and therefore claiming the modern tank is "better" is subject to conditions. This fallacy is the polar opposite of AppealToTradition; Creator/CSLewis called this fallacy chronological snobbery. [[GoodIsOldFashioned Calling goodness old-fashioned]] "old-fashioned"]] is an insult because of this trope. :: This fallacy trope. It is also known as "Appeal to Youth" or "Chronological Snobbery." In many works, Appeal To Novelty often occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the polar opposite novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of AppealToTradition. !!! Examples:imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory. Also see NewAndImproved. ---- !! Examples:
3rd Dec '14 7:24:59 PM TARINunit9
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* Creator/{{Atari}}'s ''Pinball/{{Hercules}}'' was sold on the basis of being the largest [[PhysicalPinballTable pinball machine]] ever made. However, the game itself was uninteresting to players -- spitting in the face of Galileo, a bigger ball turned out to be a slower ball -- and a constant maintenance hassle for owners, and it is now remembered only for its novelty.
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* Creator/{{Atari}}'s ''Pinball/{{Hercules}}'' was sold on the basis of being the largest [[PhysicalPinballTable pinball machine]] ever made. However, the game itself was uninteresting to players -- spitting in the face of Galileo, a bigger ball turned out to be a much slower ball ball, not helped by the field's simple layout -- and a constant maintenance hassle for owners, and it is now remembered only for its novelty.
26th Oct '14 8:05:41 PM TARINunit9
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* Creator/{{Atari}}'s ''Pinball/{{Hercules}}'' was sold on the basis of being the largest [[PhysicalPinballTable pinball machine]] ever made. However, the game itself was uninteresting to players and a constant maintenance hassle for owners, and it is now remembered only for its novelty.
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* Creator/{{Atari}}'s ''Pinball/{{Hercules}}'' was sold on the basis of being the largest [[PhysicalPinballTable pinball machine]] ever made. However, the game itself was uninteresting to players -- spitting in the face of Galileo, a bigger ball turned out to be a slower ball -- and a constant maintenance hassle for owners, and it is now remembered only for its novelty.
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