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20th Mar '16 7:49:20 PM rjung
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* The album ''Music/PacManFever'' was released on this principle. After Buckner & Garcia's "Pac-Man Fever" single became a hit, they signed a record deal with Columbia/CBS Records, who insisted insisted on a full album of video-game songs.
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6th Mar '16 10:46:03 AM Josef5678
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** Something similar happened with ''Pinball/FlipperFootball'' and its attempt to realistically portray soccer in a pinball game.

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** Something similar happened with * ''Pinball/FlipperFootball'' and its attempt attempted to realistically portray soccer in a pinball game.game. Unfortunately, this simply proved too dull for most players.



** Also, the two-ball multiball was added in a day after management later heard that another pinball was about to be released with multiball play.

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** Also, the The two-ball multiball was added in a day after management later heard that another pinball was about to be released with multiball play.



* CSLewis's formulation of this fallacy -- the aforementioned "chronological snobbery" -- dealt primarily with ValuesDissonance, culture, and science. It goes like this: ''1)'' It is argued that A. ''2)'' A is an old argument, dating back to the times when people also believed B. ''3)'' B is clearly false. ''4)'' Therefore, A is false. Lewis notes how this leads to the names of time periods being used as negative slurs (e.g. "medieval" as an adjective referring to superstition and savagery) and to ArtisticLicenseHistory for the sake of propping up the supposed inherent superiority of the modern day (e.g. claiming that all the "good" things and ideas of the present did not exist in any way, shape, or form until the past 100 years or less).

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* CSLewis's Creator/CSLewis's formulation of this fallacy -- the aforementioned "chronological snobbery" -- dealt primarily with ValuesDissonance, culture, and science. It goes like this: ''1)'' It is argued that A. ''2)'' A is an old argument, dating back to the times when people also believed B. ''3)'' B is clearly false. ''4)'' Therefore, A is false. Lewis notes how this leads to the names of time periods being used as negative slurs (e.g. "medieval" as an adjective referring to superstition and savagery) and to ArtisticLicenseHistory for the sake of propping up the supposed inherent superiority of the modern day (e.g. claiming that all the "good" things and ideas of the present did not exist in any way, shape, or form until the past 100 years or less).
5th Mar '16 1:21:53 PM StFan
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->'''Leonard:''' I guess it couldn't kill us to meet some new people.
->'''Sheldon:''' Actually, it could kill us. They could be murderers or the carriers of unusual pathogens.

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->'''Leonard:''' I guess it couldn't kill us to meet some new people.
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people.\\
'''Sheldon:'''
Actually, it could kill us. They could be murderers or the carriers of unusual pathogens.



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* British Television Quiz ''{{QI}}'' is extremely guilty of this trope. The entire premise of the show is turning "popular" knowledge on its head or proving old preconceptions wrong. As a result, lots of people believe the alternative, not for the inherent value of the statement, but because it's different..

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* British Television Quiz ''{{QI}}'' ''Series/{{QI}}'' is extremely guilty of this trope. The entire premise of the show is turning "popular" knowledge on its head or proving old preconceptions wrong. As a result, lots of people believe the alternative, not for the inherent value of the statement, but because it's different..




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2nd Feb '16 11:00:49 AM TheUnsquished
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* When a {{Documentary}} (usually a DocumentaryOfLies) wants to portray a position as outdated, it's common to show old StockFootage of that position being promoted. This may be anything from a newsreel to a 1950s educational film and it may be in black and white or washed-out color, but the important thing is that the footage is clearly old enough to be wrong now!

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* When a {{Documentary}} (usually a DocumentaryOfLies) wants to portray a position as outdated, it's common to show old StockFootage of that position being promoted. This may be anything from a newsreel to a 1950s educational film and it may be in black and white or washed-out color, but the important thing is that the footage is clearly old enough to be wrong now!
26th Jan '16 12:03:15 PM JBK405
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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeune Ecole]]''. In the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose ideas are AwesomeButImpractical at best. In later books, their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]

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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeune Ecole]]''. In Ecole]]'', the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose other being the Historical School. The ''jeune ecole'' believe that tactics and strategy have stagnated over time, so new military technologies need to be developed in order to break the stalemate. The historical school believe that any new technology should fit within established paradigms in order to be effective, and criticize the ''jeune ecole'' for supporting new ideas are simple because they '''are''' new. Series protagonist Honor Harrington is a self-professed member of the historical school and regards the ''jeune ecole'''s ideas as AwesomeButImpractical at best. In best, but in the later books, books their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as fruit after the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]
two schools reached across the ideological aisle.
1st Jan '16 6:50:35 PM MissMokushiroku
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Appeal To Novelty]] is a logical fallacy where someone claims that a proposal, idea, work, or trend is better or more accurate than what came before, ''solely'' because it is newer or more recent.

This argument is often made with regard to technology, where it is often supposed that anything "high tech" is automatically better than anything "low tech." However, technology is all about fulfiling requirements, not just improvement for the sake of improvement -- while a modern tank is faster and has a much more powerful gun than a World War 1 tank, it has inferior obstacle crossing abilities because its design represents a trade-off between visibility and obstacle crossing, and therefore claiming the modern tank is "better" is subject to conditions.

This fallacy is the polar opposite of AppealToTradition; Creator/CSLewis called this fallacy chronological snobbery. [[GoodIsOldFashioned Calling goodness "old-fashioned"]] is an insult because of this trope. It is also known as "Appeal to Youth" or "Chronological Snobbery."

In some forms of media, Appeal To Novelty occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.

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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_novelty Appeal To to Novelty]] is a logical fallacy where someone claims that a proposal, idea, work, or trend is better or more accurate than what came before, ''solely'' because it is newer or more recent.

This argument is often made with regard to technology, where it is often supposed that anything "high tech" is automatically better than anything "low tech." However, technology is all about fulfiling requirements, not just improvement for the sake of improvement -- while a modern tank is faster and has a much more powerful gun than a World War 1 UsefulNotes/WorldWarI tank, it has inferior obstacle crossing abilities because its design represents a trade-off between visibility and obstacle crossing, and therefore claiming the modern tank is "better" is subject to conditions.

This fallacy is the polar opposite of AppealToTradition; Creator/CSLewis called this fallacy chronological snobbery. [[GoodIsOldFashioned Calling goodness "old-fashioned"]] is an insult because of this trope. It is also known as "Appeal to Youth" or "Chronological Snobbery.Youth."

In some forms of media, Appeal To to Novelty occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.
11th Oct '15 6:07:10 PM Ulkomaalainen
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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeuene Ecole]]''. In the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose ideas are AwesomeButImpractical at best. In later books, their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]

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* In the ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' books, there is an ongoing debate between two strategic and technological schools of thought, one of which is the ''[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench Jeuene Jeune Ecole]]''. In the early books, they are portrayed as StrawmanPolitical characters whose ideas are AwesomeButImpractical at best. In later books, their ideas begin to bear fruit, leading to GameBreaker weapons systems such as the [[LightningBruiser Super LACs.]]
16th Jun '15 11:33:37 PM Random888
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* When a {{Documentary}} (usually a DocumentaryOfLies) wants to portray a position as outdated, it's common to show old StockFootage of that position being promoted. This may be anything from a newsreel to a 1950s educational film and it may be in black and white or washed-out color, but the important thing is that the footage is clearly old enough to be wrong now!
7th May '15 3:56:08 PM Wimblesaurus
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* This fallacy, as an argument entirely in itself, tends to be the main battle cry of, or rationalisation for [[{{Transhuman}} Transhumanism]], not far behind ForScience.
25th Feb '15 1:31:42 PM rjung
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In many works, Appeal To Novelty often occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.

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In many works, some forms of media, Appeal To Novelty often occurs when a new work includes an original feature solely in an attempt to attract an audience by appealing to their curiosity. Note that in this use, appealing to novelty is ''not'' inherently "right" or "wrong;" the novelty might end up actually attracting an audience, [[FollowTheLeader drawing lots of imitators]] in the process, eventually resulting in the original being VindicatedByHistory.
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