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24th Feb '17 12:06:18 AM Grudgeal
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** Lothar is a powerful, eccentric and immortal [[TheNecromancer necromancer]] who lives in Sigil and pretty much ignores the existance of the city's civil service and mortal authorities through this trope. Since the only being in Sigil who ''could'' regulate his activities is The Lady, and Lothar doesn't do anything that warrants her attention (he collects the souls of the already dead, which does not involve killing people or disrupting the order of the city), the rest of Sigil leaves him alone.

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** Lothar is a powerful, eccentric and immortal [[TheNecromancer necromancer]] who lives in Sigil and pretty much ignores the existance existence of the city's civil service and mortal authorities through this trope. Since the only being in Sigil who ''could'' regulate his activities is The Lady, and Lothar doesn't do anything that warrants her attention (he collects the souls of the already dead, which does not involve killing people or disrupting the order of the city), the rest of Sigil leaves him alone.
24th Feb '17 12:05:50 AM Grudgeal
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** Lothar is a powerful, eccentric and immortal [[TheNecromancer necromancer]] who lives in Sigil and pretty much ignores the existance of the city's civil service and mortal authorities through this trope. Since the only being in Sigil who ''could'' regulate his activities is The Lady, and Lothar doesn't do anything that directly contravenes The Lady's law, the rest of Sigil leaves him alone.

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** Lothar is a powerful, eccentric and immortal [[TheNecromancer necromancer]] who lives in Sigil and pretty much ignores the existance of the city's civil service and mortal authorities through this trope. Since the only being in Sigil who ''could'' regulate his activities is The Lady, and Lothar doesn't do anything that directly contravenes The Lady's law, warrants her attention (he collects the souls of the already dead, which does not involve killing people or disrupting the order of the city), the rest of Sigil leaves him alone.
24th Feb '17 12:03:15 AM Grudgeal
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** Lothar is a powerful, eccentric and immortal [[TheNecromancer necromancer]] who lives in Sigil and pretty much ignores the existance of the city's civil service and mortal authorities through this trope. Since the only being in Sigil who ''could'' regulate his activities is The Lady, and Lothar doesn't do anything that directly contravenes The Lady's law, the rest of Sigil leaves him alone.
12th Feb '17 12:45:05 PM Fireblood
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More formally, this is known as the "Argumentum ad Baculum" [[note]]Literally "appeal to the stick"[[/note]] or the Appeal to Force, whose logic goes essentially thus: "I'm right, and if you disagree, I beat or blow you up." While invalid in abstract logic, this tactic is rather persuasive in RealLife. The phrase "talk shit, get hit", while crude, is one of the most common real-life applications of this particular fallacy.

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More formally, this is known as the "Argumentum ad Baculum" [[note]]Literally Baculum"[[note]]Literally "appeal to the stick"[[/note]] or the Appeal to Force, whose logic goes essentially thus: "I'm right, and if you disagree, I beat or blow you up." While invalid in abstract logic, this tactic is rather persuasive in RealLife. The phrase "talk shit, get hit", while crude, is one of the most common real-life applications of this particular fallacy.
14th Jan '17 2:55:58 PM N8han11
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** In the 3rd season episode "War is the H word", Bender has THE BOMB implanted inside his body and it will ''detonate the instant the robot unwittingly speaks a certain word'', wiping out an entire planet. It's the one word he uses more than any other: [[spoiler:ASS]]. After finding that out he starts a game of ''Make Bender happy or he blows up the planet!''

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** In the 3rd season episode "War is the H word", Bender has THE BOMB implanted inside his body and it will ''detonate the instant the robot unwittingly speaks a certain word'', wiping out an entire planet. It's the one word he uses more than any other: [[spoiler:ASS]]. After finding that out he starts a game of ''Make "Make Bender happy or he blows up the planet!''planet!".
24th Dec '16 9:43:13 AM WillKeaton
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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'' the Crime Syndicate, made up of superpowered criminals are so powerful that the police won't act against them and Slade Wilson, the President of the United States, will acquiesce to whatever demands they make of him.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'' the Crime Syndicate, made up of superpowered criminals are criminals, is so powerful that the police won't act against them and Slade Wilson, the President of the United States, will acquiesce to whatever demands they make of him.
24th Dec '16 9:41:45 AM WillKeaton
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* In ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'' the Crime Syndicate, made up of superpowered criminals are so powerful that the police won't act against them and Slade Wilson, the President of the United States, will acquiesce to whatever demands they make of him.
16th Dec '16 4:29:01 AM gb00393
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* A recurring theme of ''Series/GameOfThrones''. Aegon the Conqueror didn't seize the kingdoms because he had any claim or right, he seized them because he could. Power may come from knowledge, the gods, or be derived from the law, but ultimately a swordsman decides whether the king, the priest, or the rich man live or die.

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A recurring theme of ''Series/GameOfThrones''.theme. Aegon the Conqueror didn't seize the kingdoms because he had any claim or right, he seized them because he could. Power may come from knowledge, the gods, or be derived from the law, but ultimately a swordsman decides whether the king, the priest, or the rich man live or die.


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** Renly decides to make a claim for the throne based on right of conquest like his big brother Robert.
--> '''Stannis:''' You think a few bolts of cloth will make you king?
--> '''Renly:''' No. The men ''holding'' those bolts of cloth will make me king.
** {{Defied}} by Tommen when he balks at hacking his way through the Faith Militant just to talk to the High Sparrow.
22nd Nov '16 2:47:08 AM SSJMagus
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* The ''heroes'' pull this in the ending of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls''. When Dipper and Mabel are about to take the bus home at the end of the summer, the driver says that Mabel can't bring her pet pig because animals aren't allowed on the bus. Grunkle Stan makes a show of putting on his brass knuckles and Grunkle Ford lifts his coat to show off his gun. The driver decides there's no problem with letting a pig ride on the bus.
19th Nov '16 1:22:18 AM Theatre_Maven_3695
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See also TwoPlusTortureMakesFive, AnOfferYouCantRefuse, HobbesWasRight, MightMakesRight, ShootTheShaggyDog, ScrewTheRulesIHaveSupernaturalPowers and SwordOfDamocles. Frequently the next step after ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem! doesn't work.

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See also TwoPlusTortureMakesFive, AnOfferYouCantRefuse, HobbesWasRight, MightMakesRight, ShootTheShaggyDog, ScrewTheRulesIHaveSupernaturalPowers and SwordOfDamocles. Frequently the next step after ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem! doesn't ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem does not work.
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