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24th Dec '16 10:50:33 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Gets deconstructed all the way in ''{{Arcanum}}'', whose elves claim that they do not kill another elves because if an elf dies "unprepared", his\her soul will never be able to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. (Tarant's elven thugs aren't so polite, though.) Naturally, when Wrath, a dweller of HiddenElfVillage is killed by poison, the first and only suspect is his ''dwarven'' apprentice (who also was stupid enough to sign a ''life-long'' contract with the elf). It's up to you to prove that Wrath was killed by an elf Sharpe for a woman they almost fought for and whom Sharpe now lives with as husband and wife (almost a perversion in "free-love" elven society) - or dig it even further and discover that "perverted" family idea actually came from Wrath, that Sharpe actually never killed him and that the bastard has ''[[SuicideNotMurder committed suicide]]'' solely to frame Sharpe.

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* Gets deconstructed all the way in ''{{Arcanum}}'', ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'', whose elves claim that they do not kill another elves because if an elf dies "unprepared", his\her soul will never be able to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. (Tarant's elven thugs aren't so polite, though.) Naturally, when Wrath, a dweller of HiddenElfVillage is killed by poison, the first and only suspect is his ''dwarven'' apprentice (who also was stupid enough to sign a ''life-long'' contract with the elf). It's up to you to prove that Wrath was killed by an elf Sharpe for a woman they almost fought for and whom Sharpe now lives with as husband and wife (almost a perversion in "free-love" elven society) - or dig it even further and discover that "perverted" family idea actually came from Wrath, that Sharpe actually never killed him and that the bastard has ''[[SuicideNotMurder committed suicide]]'' solely to frame Sharpe.
23rd Dec '16 11:49:01 PM AsForMyHandle
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->''No animal shall kill any other animal [[OrwellianRetcon without cause]].''

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->''No animal shall kill any other animal [[OrwellianRetcon without cause]].cause.''
18th Dec '16 10:25:30 PM SirPellucidar
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* In The Power of the Daleks, the first Second Doctor story from Doctor Who, a Dalek asks a human why they kill each other, not understanding it at the time. Of course, in later stories, Daleks started killing each other too.
3rd Dec '16 12:12:00 PM eowynjedi
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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', the Founders' highest (or even ''only'') law is "no Changeling has ever harmed another" (until [[spoiler:Odo does it]] - and they ain't too happy about that, as you might imagine). Indeed, it's less a law than a simple, unshakable truth. [[spoiler:However, as the founders and leaders of the Dominion, a classic example of TheEmpire, they've harmed pretty much everyone else.]]
** The Founders themselves follow this law to the letter, but not always in spirit however. First in "The Die is Cast," [[spoiler:the Changeling posing as Lovok]] did not intervene when Garak tortured Odo, but he did go back and help the two of them escape. Also in "The Adversary", the Changeling saboteur tries to convince Odo to escape with him, but is willing to leave him to die with the humanoids if he won't come. Then in "Broken Link", they afflict Odo with an infection that will kill him unless he returns to the Great Link for judgment. In this case at least, they admit to internal conflict over the decision (unheard of among the Founders otherwise).
*** This is explained in the novels. The Founders were created by a giant shapeshifting being called the Progenitor. It later left. This is why the founders sent out the 100 - to find and lure it back. Without the Progenitor, they have no way of reproducing. So if a changeling harms another, it moves closer to destroying its own race.
** The Ferengi follow this to a lesser extent: while murder of individuals and the like happens, Quark has a big speech to Sisko in which he points out that while Humans look down on the Ferengi for being greedy capitalists, the Ferengi themselves look down on the Humans and think they're "better". Ferengi never engaged in genocide, slavery, or atomic warfare, which Human history is full of. Indeed, the Ferengi have never even fought a large-scale interstellar war, instead peacefully resolving disputes by (ruthlessly) applying economic pressure, subjugating their own women, and selling weapons to other people who commit genocide and engage in atomic warfare.
*** Rule of Acquisition #17 - A contract is a contract is a contract...but only between Ferengi.

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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', the *''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
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Founders' highest (or even ''only'') law is "no Changeling has ever harmed another" (until [[spoiler:Odo does it]] - and they ain't too happy about that, as you might imagine). Indeed, it's less a law than a simple, unshakable truth. [[spoiler:However, as the founders and leaders of the Dominion, a classic example of TheEmpire, they've harmed pretty much everyone else.]]
** The Founders themselves
]] Although there are times when they only follow this law rule in spirit, as they have allowed harm to the letter, but come to Odo by not always in spirit however. First in intervening when inflicted by someone else--in "The Die is Cast," [[spoiler:the Changeling posing as Lovok]] did not intervene when Garak tortured Odo, but he did go back and help the two of them escape. Also in "The Adversary", the Changeling saboteur tries to convince Odo to escape with him, but is willing to leave him to die with the humanoids if he won't come. Then in "Broken Link", they afflict Odo with an infection that will kill him unless he returns to the Great Link for judgment. In this case at least, they admit to internal conflict over the decision (unheard of among the Founders otherwise).
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otherwise). The novels explain that the novels. The Founders were created by a giant shapeshifting being called Changelings are no longer capable of reproducing after the Progenitor. It later left. This is why the founders sent out the 100 - to find and lure it back. Without the Progenitor, they have no way of reproducing. So if "Progenitor" left, so a dead changeling harms another, it moves closer to destroying its own affects the whole race.
** The Ferengi follow this to a lesser extent: while murder of individuals and the like happens, Quark has a big speech to Sisko in which he points out that while Humans look down on the Ferengi for being greedy capitalists, the Ferengi themselves look down on the Humans and think they're "better". Ferengi never engaged in genocide, slavery, or atomic warfare, which Human history is full of. Indeed, the Ferengi have never even fought a large-scale interstellar war, instead peacefully resolving disputes by (ruthlessly) applying economic pressure, subjugating their own women, and selling weapons to other people who commit genocide and engage in atomic warfare.
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warfare. There's also Rule of Acquisition #17 - A contract is a contract is a contract...but only between Ferengi.Ferengi.
** Played with regarding the Bajorans. The planet is on the brink of civil war at the start of the series, the Resistance would attack installations with Bajoran collaborators in them, and one Cardassian resistance member sneeringly says that unlike Bajorans, ''they'' would not do the same. However, a second civil war scare is averted right at the moment a rebel faction is ready to ambush the army, because the leaders recognize each other from fighting the Cardassians and can't pull the trigger.
29th Sep '16 12:28:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* This is one of the original Seven Commandments of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', conveniently discarded when JosephStalin {{Expy}} Napoleon became convinced there were traitors in his midst.

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* This is one of the original Seven Commandments of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', conveniently discarded when JosephStalin UsefulNotes/JosephStalin {{Expy}} Napoleon became convinced there were traitors in his midst.
8th Sep '16 6:33:45 PM kome360
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** Note that Imperius is also willing to abuse the NoTrueScotsman loophole due to Tyrael's constant interference in Sanctuary.
4th Sep '16 10:34:19 AM BenOfHouston
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* Humans could be said to follow this. While it is true that we humans kill each other, and often, we tend to have greater reservations against killing humans than against killing animals.

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* Humans could be said to follow this. While it is true that we humans kill each other, and often, we tend to have greater reservations against killing humans than against killing animals. To put it more pithily, "People aren't the only animals that kill their own kind. They are the only ones who feel bad about it."
4th Sep '16 10:22:56 AM BenOfHouston
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** The elves are similarly good to one another. There have been three elf-on-elf battles, but they were so notable as to each be historical events (the "Kinslayings"), and were all tied to an illicit oath taken by the Elf-King Feanor.

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** The elves are similarly good to one another. There have been three elf-on-elf battles, detailed in ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', but they were so notable as to each be historical events (the "Kinslayings"), and were all tied to an illicit oath taken by the Elf-King Feanor.Fëanor concerning the Silmarils, legendary gems that provided the book's title.



* Averted in ''Literature/TheSilmarillion''. Elves killing other Elves is considered an unforgivable sin, but at three points the Sons of Fëanor kill other Elves in their pursuit of the Silmarils.
4th Sep '16 10:21:05 AM BenOfHouston
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*** Technically Sméagol and Déagol are river folk; similar to Hobbits, but they are never said to be the same race. Also, they were not of the Shire, and Frodo's quote includes the distinction.

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*** Technically Sméagol and Déagol are river folk; similar to Hobbits, but they are never said to be the same race. Also, they were not of the Shire, indeed predating the Shire's founding, and Frodo's quote includes the distinction.distinction.
** The elves are similarly good to one another. There have been three elf-on-elf battles, but they were so notable as to each be historical events (the "Kinslayings"), and were all tied to an illicit oath taken by the Elf-King Feanor.
26th Jul '16 7:22:03 PM CerotechOmega
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* And to complete the triumvirate of ''Creator/{{Blizzard|Entertainment}}'' games, Archangel Imperius of the ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'' series gives absolutely zero fucks about fellow Archangel Malthael's slaughter of humanity, but [[spoiler:when Malthael's forces attempt to destroy the High Heavens' gate to Pandemonium and its angelic guard]], he chooses to aid the [[PlayerCharacter nephalem]] in breaching Pandemonium Fortress so they can put Malthael down.
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