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15th Mar '17 1:33:34 PM Doug86
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* ''StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5239449/1/The-Night-The-Day-The-War-Began The Night the Day the War Began]]'' by Alara Rogers has Q coming to grips with the horror of Q actually killing other Q in their civil war. It's unthinkable and yet it's all around him and, by this point, inescapable. And qualitatively different from mortals dying, both because of the enormity of the distinction between mortals and Q, and because ''it's actually possible to bring mortals back to life'' -- but not even Q can return Q to life, or undo the time during which the war happened.

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* ''StarTrek'' ''Franchise/StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5239449/1/The-Night-The-Day-The-War-Began The Night the Day the War Began]]'' by Alara Rogers has Q coming to grips with the horror of Q actually killing other Q in their civil war. It's unthinkable and yet it's all around him and, by this point, inescapable. And qualitatively different from mortals dying, both because of the enormity of the distinction between mortals and Q, and because ''it's actually possible to bring mortals back to life'' -- but not even Q can return Q to life, or undo the time during which the war happened.
15th Mar '17 6:36:20 AM Kilyle
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* ''StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5239449/1/The-Night-The-Day-The-War-Began The Night the Day the War Began]]'' by Alara Rogers has Q coming to grips with the horror of Q actually killing other Q in their civil war. It's unthinkable and yet it's all around him and, by this point, inescapable. And quantitatively different from mortals dying, both because of the enormity of the distinction between mortals and Q, and because ''it's actually possible to bring mortals back to life'' -- but not even Q can return Q to life, or undo the time during which the war happened.

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* ''StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5239449/1/The-Night-The-Day-The-War-Began The Night the Day the War Began]]'' by Alara Rogers has Q coming to grips with the horror of Q actually killing other Q in their civil war. It's unthinkable and yet it's all around him and, by this point, inescapable. And quantitatively qualitatively different from mortals dying, both because of the enormity of the distinction between mortals and Q, and because ''it's actually possible to bring mortals back to life'' -- but not even Q can return Q to life, or undo the time during which the war happened.
15th Mar '17 6:35:32 AM Kilyle
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* ''StarTrek'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5239449/1/The-Night-The-Day-The-War-Began The Night the Day the War Began]]'' by Alara Rogers has Q coming to grips with the horror of Q actually killing other Q in their civil war. It's unthinkable and yet it's all around him and, by this point, inescapable. And quantitatively different from mortals dying, both because of the enormity of the distinction between mortals and Q, and because ''it's actually possible to bring mortals back to life'' -- but not even Q can return Q to life, or undo the time during which the war happened.
14th Mar '17 11:11:27 AM Peteman
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** Minbari have a tradition called denn'sha, which is a ritual fight to the death. The meaning of the word means "Denial", and by partaking in it, they deny being Minbari for the duration of the fight. The loser is not considered "killed" by their opponent so much as having committed ritual suicide.

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** Minbari have a tradition called denn'sha, which is a ritual fight to the death. The meaning of the word means "Denial", and by partaking in it, they deny being Minbari for the duration of the fight. The loser is not considered "killed" by their opponent so much as having committed ritual assisted suicide.
14th Mar '17 11:11:11 AM Peteman
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* On ''Series/BabylonFive'', "Minbari do not kill Minbari." Although this tends to be interpreted rather loosely at times or with [[NoTrueScotsman certain qualifications]], it was ultimately what saved [[spoiler:humanity from destruction during the Earth-Mimbari War, when it was discovered that humans and Mimbari share souls, which effectively meant humans were Mimbari and thus shouldn't be killed.]]

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* On ''Series/BabylonFive'', "Minbari do not kill Minbari." Although this tends to be interpreted rather loosely at times or with [[NoTrueScotsman certain qualifications]], it was ultimately what saved [[spoiler:humanity from destruction during the Earth-Mimbari Earth-Minbari War, when it was discovered that humans and Mimbari Minbari share souls, which effectively meant humans were Mimbari Minbari and thus shouldn't be killed.]]


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** Minbari have a tradition called denn'sha, which is a ritual fight to the death. The meaning of the word means "Denial", and by partaking in it, they deny being Minbari for the duration of the fight. The loser is not considered "killed" by their opponent so much as having committed ritual suicide.
24th Dec '16 10:50:33 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Gets deconstructed all the way in ''{{Arcanum}}'', whose elves claim that they do not kill another elves because if an elf dies "unprepared", his\her soul will never be able to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. (Tarant's elven thugs aren't so polite, though.) Naturally, when Wrath, a dweller of HiddenElfVillage is killed by poison, the first and only suspect is his ''dwarven'' apprentice (who also was stupid enough to sign a ''life-long'' contract with the elf). It's up to you to prove that Wrath was killed by an elf Sharpe for a woman they almost fought for and whom Sharpe now lives with as husband and wife (almost a perversion in "free-love" elven society) - or dig it even further and discover that "perverted" family idea actually came from Wrath, that Sharpe actually never killed him and that the bastard has ''[[SuicideNotMurder committed suicide]]'' solely to frame Sharpe.

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* Gets deconstructed all the way in ''{{Arcanum}}'', ''VideoGame/ArcanumOfSteamworksAndMagickObscura'', whose elves claim that they do not kill another elves because if an elf dies "unprepared", his\her soul will never be able to AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence. (Tarant's elven thugs aren't so polite, though.) Naturally, when Wrath, a dweller of HiddenElfVillage is killed by poison, the first and only suspect is his ''dwarven'' apprentice (who also was stupid enough to sign a ''life-long'' contract with the elf). It's up to you to prove that Wrath was killed by an elf Sharpe for a woman they almost fought for and whom Sharpe now lives with as husband and wife (almost a perversion in "free-love" elven society) - or dig it even further and discover that "perverted" family idea actually came from Wrath, that Sharpe actually never killed him and that the bastard has ''[[SuicideNotMurder committed suicide]]'' solely to frame Sharpe.
23rd Dec '16 11:49:01 PM AsForMyHandle
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->''No animal shall kill any other animal [[OrwellianRetcon without cause]].''

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->''No animal shall kill any other animal [[OrwellianRetcon without cause]].cause.''
18th Dec '16 10:25:30 PM SirPellucidar
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* In The Power of the Daleks, the first Second Doctor story from Doctor Who, a Dalek asks a human why they kill each other, not understanding it at the time. Of course, in later stories, Daleks started killing each other too.
3rd Dec '16 12:12:00 PM eowynjedi
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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', the Founders' highest (or even ''only'') law is "no Changeling has ever harmed another" (until [[spoiler:Odo does it]] - and they ain't too happy about that, as you might imagine). Indeed, it's less a law than a simple, unshakable truth. [[spoiler:However, as the founders and leaders of the Dominion, a classic example of TheEmpire, they've harmed pretty much everyone else.]]
** The Founders themselves follow this law to the letter, but not always in spirit however. First in "The Die is Cast," [[spoiler:the Changeling posing as Lovok]] did not intervene when Garak tortured Odo, but he did go back and help the two of them escape. Also in "The Adversary", the Changeling saboteur tries to convince Odo to escape with him, but is willing to leave him to die with the humanoids if he won't come. Then in "Broken Link", they afflict Odo with an infection that will kill him unless he returns to the Great Link for judgment. In this case at least, they admit to internal conflict over the decision (unheard of among the Founders otherwise).
*** This is explained in the novels. The Founders were created by a giant shapeshifting being called the Progenitor. It later left. This is why the founders sent out the 100 - to find and lure it back. Without the Progenitor, they have no way of reproducing. So if a changeling harms another, it moves closer to destroying its own race.
** The Ferengi follow this to a lesser extent: while murder of individuals and the like happens, Quark has a big speech to Sisko in which he points out that while Humans look down on the Ferengi for being greedy capitalists, the Ferengi themselves look down on the Humans and think they're "better". Ferengi never engaged in genocide, slavery, or atomic warfare, which Human history is full of. Indeed, the Ferengi have never even fought a large-scale interstellar war, instead peacefully resolving disputes by (ruthlessly) applying economic pressure, subjugating their own women, and selling weapons to other people who commit genocide and engage in atomic warfare.
*** Rule of Acquisition #17 - A contract is a contract is a contract...but only between Ferengi.

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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', the *''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'':
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Founders' highest (or even ''only'') law is "no Changeling has ever harmed another" (until [[spoiler:Odo does it]] - and they ain't too happy about that, as you might imagine). Indeed, it's less a law than a simple, unshakable truth. [[spoiler:However, as the founders and leaders of the Dominion, a classic example of TheEmpire, they've harmed pretty much everyone else.]]
** The Founders themselves
]] Although there are times when they only follow this law rule in spirit, as they have allowed harm to the letter, but come to Odo by not always in spirit however. First in intervening when inflicted by someone else--in "The Die is Cast," [[spoiler:the Changeling posing as Lovok]] did not intervene when Garak tortured Odo, but he did go back and help the two of them escape. Also in "The Adversary", the Changeling saboteur tries to convince Odo to escape with him, but is willing to leave him to die with the humanoids if he won't come. Then in "Broken Link", they afflict Odo with an infection that will kill him unless he returns to the Great Link for judgment. In this case at least, they admit to internal conflict over the decision (unheard of among the Founders otherwise).
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otherwise). The novels explain that the novels. The Founders were created by a giant shapeshifting being called Changelings are no longer capable of reproducing after the Progenitor. It later left. This is why the founders sent out the 100 - to find and lure it back. Without the Progenitor, they have no way of reproducing. So if "Progenitor" left, so a dead changeling harms another, it moves closer to destroying its own affects the whole race.
** The Ferengi follow this to a lesser extent: while murder of individuals and the like happens, Quark has a big speech to Sisko in which he points out that while Humans look down on the Ferengi for being greedy capitalists, the Ferengi themselves look down on the Humans and think they're "better". Ferengi never engaged in genocide, slavery, or atomic warfare, which Human history is full of. Indeed, the Ferengi have never even fought a large-scale interstellar war, instead peacefully resolving disputes by (ruthlessly) applying economic pressure, subjugating their own women, and selling weapons to other people who commit genocide and engage in atomic warfare.
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warfare. There's also Rule of Acquisition #17 - A contract is a contract is a contract...but only between Ferengi.Ferengi.
** Played with regarding the Bajorans. The planet is on the brink of civil war at the start of the series, the Resistance would attack installations with Bajoran collaborators in them, and one Cardassian resistance member sneeringly says that unlike Bajorans, ''they'' would not do the same. However, a second civil war scare is averted right at the moment a rebel faction is ready to ambush the army, because the leaders recognize each other from fighting the Cardassians and can't pull the trigger.
29th Sep '16 12:28:35 PM Morgenthaler
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* This is one of the original Seven Commandments of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', conveniently discarded when JosephStalin {{Expy}} Napoleon became convinced there were traitors in his midst.

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* This is one of the original Seven Commandments of ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', conveniently discarded when JosephStalin UsefulNotes/JosephStalin {{Expy}} Napoleon became convinced there were traitors in his midst.
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