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18th Apr '18 10:30:33 PM dmcreif
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** There are cases of vampires killing other vampires, but smart ones do it in secret and clean up the mess afterwards. After Bill kills Longshadow (Eric's bartender), who was trying to kill Sookie (who had exposed his embezzlement of Eric's money), Eric (being the vampire sheriff of the county) is required to report the crime. When Bill points out that Eric would've killed Longshadow anyway for stealing from him, Eric agrees but claims he would've been more discreet than doing it in front of witnesses.

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** There are cases of vampires killing other vampires, but the smart ones do it in secret and clean up the mess afterwards. After When Bill kills Longshadow (Eric's bartender), who was trying to kill Sookie (who had exposed his embezzlement of Eric's money), Eric (being the vampire sheriff of the county) is required by law to report the crime. When Bill points out that Eric would've killed Longshadow anyway for stealing from him, Eric agrees but claims he would've been more discreet than doing it in front of witnesses. Due to the mitigating circumstances, the Magister decides to impose a lenient punishment on Bill, and sentences him to turning Jessica Hamby into a vampire.
2nd Mar '18 5:34:33 AM Morgenthaler
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*** A similar thing in done in ''Film/AVPAlienvsPredator'', where aliens tear apart their kin so the acidic blood dissolves the chains holding the Queen.

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*** A similar thing in done in ''Film/AVPAlienvsPredator'', where aliens tear apart their kin so Call also brings this up after Ripley 8, who is also a hybrid (since she was the acidic blood dissolves host that the chains holding the Queen.new Xenomorphs were cloned from), shoots a Xenomorph, asking her why she would basically kill one of "her own kind". Ripley just shrugs it off with a dismissive "It was in my way".


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** A similar thing in done in ''Film/AVPAlienvsPredator'', where aliens tear apart their kin so the acidic blood dissolves the chains holding the Queen.
20th Feb '18 9:45:22 AM Fliegenbein400
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* In ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids'', the Playing Characters not only regard all NPCs as disposable - either they can be killed for XP, or they're just expendable minions to handle the dangerous jobs - but they actually [[http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1404.html tell them so]] when speaking in character. Fortunately, Paploo wasn't familiar with role-playing games, so just took offence because he assumed Han was accusing him of being a Non Profit Company - still deeply offensive to a proudly capitalist Ewoc.
12th Feb '18 6:38:52 PM StarSword
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* Drizzt Do'Urden of ''Literature/TheIcewindDaleTrilogy'' went through this. In ''Literature/TheDarkElfTrilogy'', Drizzt takes a personal oath never to kill his own kind even as he is being hunted down by them. This works out fine while he's living on the surface and never actually meets any other drow, but in the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDrowSeries'' his family show up and he's forced to realize the hypocrisy of refusing to kill his (generally ChaoticEvil and AxCrazy) own kind but freely slaying members of races like humans who are usually less evil.

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* Drizzt Do'Urden of ''Literature/TheIcewindDaleTrilogy'' went through this. In ''Literature/TheDarkElfTrilogy'', Drizzt takes a personal oath never to kill his own kind even as he is being hunted down by them. This works out fine while he's living on the surface and never actually meets any other drow, but in the ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDrowSeries'' his family show up and he's forced to realize the hypocrisy of refusing to kill his (generally ChaoticEvil and AxCrazy) own kind but freely slaying members of races like humans who are usually less evil. He tosses aside the old vow in favor of a new one, to never kill except in defense of himself or another.
* In ''Literature/TheFourHorsemenUniverse'' it's rare but not unheard-of for human mercenary companies to fight each other on the job (one such instance happens in the ShortStory "Hero of Styx"). The Four Horsemen[[note]]the four oldest, most prominent, and richest human mercenary companies, around whom the first four novels revolve[[/note]] have a gentlemen's agreement not to take contracts where they'd possibly fight each other.



* ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'': "Humans don't respect life the way we do," from D'Anna after the Cylons have exterminated billions of humans (and presumably severely damaged the biospheres of their planets, what with the nuclear fallout and such). Caprica-Six clubbing this self-same D'Anna over the head with a rock is later denounced as "the first act of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in our history" (though it's really not) during a discussion on executing human detainees. Hypocritically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six for speaking out against the execution. They later resorted to simply blowing each other and the trope to bits with their Basestars. Moreover, Three's comment is incorrect, as [[spoiler:Cavil-One killed all maturing copies of Daniel-Seven and then contaminated the genetic code out of jealousy.

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* ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'': "Humans don't respect life the way we do," from D'Anna after the Cylons have exterminated billions of humans (and presumably severely damaged the biospheres of their planets, what with the nuclear fallout and such). Caprica-Six clubbing this self-same D'Anna over the head with a rock is later denounced as "the first act of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in our history" (though it's really not) during a discussion on executing human detainees. Hypocritically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six for speaking out against the execution. They later resorted to simply blowing each other and the trope to bits with their Basestars. Moreover, Three's comment is incorrect, as [[spoiler:Cavil-One killed all maturing copies of Daniel-Seven and then contaminated the genetic code out of jealousy.jealousy]].
29th Jan '18 6:10:31 PM BattleMaster
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* It isn't a race thing, but members of the Ranger class in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' have a variation. The Favored Enemy ability in some Editions allows them bonuses while fighting certain races that the player is free to choose. Only an evil Rangers may choose his own race for this ability in some of those editions. (It's okay for good-aligned ones to slay villains of their own race, just not select them for this ability.) This restriction is regardless of alignment, too, so a TokenHeroicOrc Ranger couldn't select his AlwaysChaoticEvil race as a favored enemy, but a ChaoticEvil Orc Ranger could.

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* It isn't a race thing, but members of the Ranger class in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' have 3.0 Edition has a variation. The Favored Enemy ability in some Editions allows them bonuses while fighting certain races that the player is free to choose. Only an evil Rangers may choose his own race for this ability in some of those editions. (It's okay for good-aligned ones to slay villains of their own race, just not select them for this ability.) This restriction is regardless of alignment, too, so a TokenHeroicOrc Ranger couldn't select his AlwaysChaoticEvil race as a favored enemy, but a ChaoticEvil Orc Ranger could. This rule was removed in the update to 3.5 Edition, as the Favored Enemy ability was modified that gave it non-combat bonuses to make it more versatile.
28th Jan '18 3:08:43 PM VVK
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* Humans could be said to follow this. While it is true that we humans kill each other, and often, we tend to have greater reservations against killing humans than against killing animals. To put it more pithily, "People aren't the only animals that kill their own kind. They are the only ones who feel bad about it."
* Chimpanzees not only kill rivals in fights for dominance, they even make organized raids into the territory of other clan to gain control of rich food sources. Enemy chimps who didn't escape the battle alive then [[CannibalTribe usually get eaten]]. The gorillas by comparison typically set aside their differences without resorting to violence, though leading gorillas of different clans may sometimes choose to fight each other to the death.
* Dolphins are another aversion. They are one of the few species that have been observed killing their own kind for sport. Most animals who will kill a member of their own species usually have a logical motive for doing so: self-defense, posturing for dominance that got out of hand, territorial disputes, etc. And while dolphins will kill for those reasons as well, there have been times they've been observed killing each other for no apparent logical reason.
23rd Dec '17 12:17:01 PM chopshop
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** Enforced and justified with the Gods of Destruction. They ''could'' fight or kill each other, but they're forbidden from doing so by the Grand Priest. Two Gods of Destruction going at it have the potential to [[PersonOfMassDestruction destroy universes in the crossfire]], so there's damn good reason for this. The only time they're allowed to fight each other with full strength is when they're in the World of Void, since there's nothing there for them to accidentally destroy.
20th Sep '17 6:33:55 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', this is a rule within the Dark Brotherhood, an illegal [[MurderInc organization of assassins]] whose membership mostly takes a [[PsychoForHire sadistic glee]] in killing and who practice a ReligionOfEvil. The [[TheCommandments Tenets]] of the Dark Brotherhood forbid any form of betrayal, disobedience, and theft within the Brotherhood, or else incur the Wrath of [[GodOfEvil Sithis]]. This is obviously relaxed during a [[ThePurge Purification]].
14th Sep '17 11:12:15 AM AndreaTx
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** The angels in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have this rule. When angels start turning up dead, Castiel seeks assistance from the Winchesters to help figure out what high ranking demon had figured out a way to kill angels. It literally never occurs to Castiel that an angel could turn on another angels as they are literally siblings. Castiel is shocked and in denial when the highest ranking demon they could find laughs and says demons could only dream of being able to kill angels.

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** * The angels in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have this rule. When angels start turning up dead, Castiel seeks assistance from the Winchesters to help figure out what high ranking demon had figured out a way to kill angels. It literally never occurs to Castiel that an angel could turn on another angels as they are literally siblings. Castiel is shocked and in denial when the highest ranking demon they could find laughs and says demons could only dream of being able to kill angels.



*** There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.

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*** ** There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.
14th Sep '17 11:11:09 AM AndreaTx
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* The Winchester brothers maintain this rule in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Their motto is literally "Saving people. Hunting things. The family business." They refuse to kill humans, no matter what heinous act they may have committed, because their job is only to hunt and kill the supernatural. Dealing with human scum is a job for law enforcement. This leaves weird quandries where they kill vampires who don't prey on humans or ghouls who only eat the dead despite really needing fresh live meat, but will leave incestuous serial killers and spell-casting witches (humans that summon powers from demons) alive.
** There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.

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* ** The angels in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have this rule. When angels start turning up dead, Castiel seeks assistance from the Winchesters to help figure out what high ranking demon had figured out a way to kill angels. It literally never occurs to Castiel that an angel could turn on another angels as they are literally siblings. Castiel is shocked and in denial when the highest ranking demon they could find laughs and says demons could only dream of being able to kill angels.
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Winchester brothers maintain this rule in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''.about other humans. Their motto is literally "Saving people. Hunting things. The family business." They refuse to kill humans, no matter what heinous act they may have committed, because their job is only to hunt and kill the supernatural. Dealing with human scum is a job for law enforcement. This leaves weird quandries where they kill vampires who don't prey on humans or ghouls who only eat the dead despite really needing fresh live meat, but will leave incestuous serial killers and spell-casting witches (humans that summon powers from demons) alive. \n** It has been lampshaded by Dean.
--> '''Dean:''' Demons, I get. People are crazy.
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There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.
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