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26th Jul '16 7:22:03 PM CerotechOmega
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* And to complete the triumvirate of ''Creator/{{Blizzard|Entertainment}}'' games, Archangel Imperius of the ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'' series gives absolutely zero fucks about fellow Archangel Malthael's slaughter of humanity, but [[spoiler:when Malthael's forces attempt to destroy the High Heavens' gate to Pandemonium and its angelic guard]], he chooses to aid the [[PlayerCharacter nephalem]] in breaching Pandemonium Fortress so they can put Malthael down.
2nd Jul '16 5:50:27 PM YourDoom
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* Humans could be said to follow this. While it is true that we humans kill each other, and often, we tend to have greater reservations against killing humans than against killing animals.
28th Jun '16 8:40:36 AM PixelKnight
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* ''Literature/EndersGame'' features an odd kind of aversion when a major difference between the Formics and Humanity is discovered. [[spoiler: The Formics are an insect-like hive species with millions of drones controlled by singular Hive Queens. They assumed humans functioned like that in their first encounters and simply disposed of what they presumed to be mere drones. The Formics didn't conceptually understand that anything could be "sentient" that wasn't the queen of a hive-mind. When they realized that each individual human was a single sentient creature, their guilt over the number of lives they had taken was enough that they essentially accepted their own near-extinction in retaliation.]]

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* ''Literature/EndersGame'' features an odd kind of aversion when a major difference between the Formics and Humanity is discovered. [[spoiler: The Formics are an insect-like hive species with millions of drones controlled by singular Hive Queens. They assumed humans functioned like that in their first encounters and simply disposed of what they presumed to be mere drones.drones with no more remorse than a human would have over clipping their fingernails. The Formics didn't conceptually understand that anything could be "sentient" that wasn't the queen of a hive-mind. When they realized that each individual human was a single sentient creature, their guilt over the number of lives they had taken was enough that they essentially accepted their own near-extinction in retaliation.]]
11th Jun '16 12:44:20 AM Morgenthaler
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* The Paris vampires in ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' have only one rule: don't kill another vampire. Breaking that rule is punishable by death.

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* The Paris vampires in ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' ''Literature/InterviewWithTheVampire'' have only one rule: don't kill another vampire. Breaking that rule is punishable by death.



* Drizzt Do'Urden of ''Literature/TheIcewindDaleTrilogy'' went through this. In ''TheDarkElfTrilogy'', Drizzt takes a personal oath never to kill his own kind even as he is being hunted down by them. This works out fine while he's living on the surface and never actually meets any other drow, but in the ''LegacyOfTheDrowSeries'' his family show up and he's forced to realize the hypocrisy of refusing to kill his (generally ChaoticEvil and AxCrazy) own kind but freely slaying members of races like humans who are usually less evil.

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* Drizzt Do'Urden of ''Literature/TheIcewindDaleTrilogy'' went through this. In ''TheDarkElfTrilogy'', ''Literature/TheDarkElfTrilogy'', Drizzt takes a personal oath never to kill his own kind even as he is being hunted down by them. This works out fine while he's living on the surface and never actually meets any other drow, but in the ''LegacyOfTheDrowSeries'' ''Literature/LegacyOfTheDrowSeries'' his family show up and he's forced to realize the hypocrisy of refusing to kill his (generally ChaoticEvil and AxCrazy) own kind but freely slaying members of races like humans who are usually less evil.
9th Jun '16 3:56:08 PM SoapheadChurch
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* ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'': The {{Trope Namer|s}}, specifically ''Film/BattleForThePlanetOfTheApes''. The phrase "Ape shall ''not'' kill ape" appears three movies earlier in ''Film/BeneathThePlanetOfTheApes'' as an excuse to not shoot down protesting pacifist apes. The first film mentions a sacred scroll that hints the concept as well: "Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed". However, as the Real Life section shows, actual primates ''do'' kill each other.

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* ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'': ''Franchise/PlanetOfTheApes'':
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The {{Trope Namer|s}}, specifically ''Film/BattleForThePlanetOfTheApes''. The phrase "Ape shall ''not'' kill ape" appears three movies earlier in ''Film/BeneathThePlanetOfTheApes'' as an excuse to not shoot down protesting pacifist apes. The first film mentions a sacred scroll that hints the concept as well: "Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed". However, as the Real Life section shows, actual primates ''do'' kill each other.



** And of course the ''glaring'' No True Scotsman is that humans are an ape species just as much as chimps, bonobos, orangutans, and gorillas are. So...
8th Jun '16 2:57:03 PM ShorinBJ
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* The Souls from ''Literature/TheHost'' ''completely'' neglect to realize that there might be something about humanity (or, hell, ''any'' species that isn't their own) worth saving, at least at first. The [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman human version of the trope]] also makes a bit of an appearance, but given that the Souls not only stole our planet, but also our entire way of life, virtually all of our infrastructure, ''and the bodies of many loved ones'', and are still somewhat set on capturing the rest of us and making us hosts as well... you can kind of see the logic in not particularly ''liking'' them much, no matter how "altruistic" and "nice" they may otherwise be.

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* The Souls from ''Literature/TheHost'' ''completely'' neglect to realize that there might be something about humanity (or, hell, ''any'' species that isn't their own) worth saving, at least at first. The [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman human version of would never harm each other...but don't extend the trope]] also makes a bit of an appearance, same courtesy to humans (they do seem to want to prevent unnecessarily killing humans, but given that the Souls not likely only stole our planet, but also our entire way of life, virtually all of our infrastructure, ''and the bodies of many loved ones'', and are still somewhat set on capturing the rest of us and making us hosts as well... you can kind of see the logic in not particularly ''liking'' them much, no matter how "altruistic" and "nice" so they may otherwise be.can be used as hosts).



* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', the Founders' highest (or even ''only'') law is "no Changeling has ever harmed another" (until [[spoiler:Odo does it]] - and they ain't too happy about that, as you might imagine). [[spoiler: However, as the founders and leaders of the Dominion, a classic example of TheEmpire, they've harmed pretty much everyone else.]]
** The Founders themselves follow this law to the letter, but not always in spirit however. First in "The Die is Cast," [[spoiler: the Changeling posing as Lovok]] did not intervene when Garak tortured Odo, but he did go back and help the two of them escape. Also in "The Adversary", the Changeling saboteur tries to convince Odo to escape with him, but is willing to leave him to die with the humanoids if he won't come. Then in "Broken Link", they afflicted Odo with an infection that would have killed him unless he returned to the Great Link for judgment. In this case at least, they admit to internal conflict over the decision (unheard of among the Founders otherwise).
*** This is explained in the novels. The Founders were created by a giant shapeshifting being called the Progenitor. It later left. This is why the founders sent out the 100 - to find and lure it back. Without the Progenitor, they have no way of reproducing. So if a changeling harms another, it moves closer to destroying it's own race.

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* In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', the Founders' highest (or even ''only'') law is "no Changeling has ever harmed another" (until [[spoiler:Odo does it]] - and they ain't too happy about that, as you might imagine). [[spoiler: However, Indeed, it's less a law than a simple, unshakable truth. [[spoiler:However, as the founders and leaders of the Dominion, a classic example of TheEmpire, they've harmed pretty much everyone else.]]
** The Founders themselves follow this law to the letter, but not always in spirit however. First in "The Die is Cast," [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Changeling posing as Lovok]] did not intervene when Garak tortured Odo, but he did go back and help the two of them escape. Also in "The Adversary", the Changeling saboteur tries to convince Odo to escape with him, but is willing to leave him to die with the humanoids if he won't come. Then in "Broken Link", they afflicted afflict Odo with an infection that would have killed will kill him unless he returned returns to the Great Link for judgment. In this case at least, they admit to internal conflict over the decision (unheard of among the Founders otherwise).
*** This is explained in the novels. The Founders were created by a giant shapeshifting being called the Progenitor. It later left. This is why the founders sent out the 100 - to find and lure it back. Without the Progenitor, they have no way of reproducing. So if a changeling harms another, it moves closer to destroying it's its own race.



*** Rule of Acquisition #17 - A contract is a contract is a contract... but only between Ferengi.

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*** Rule of Acquisition #17 - A contract is a contract is a contract... but only between Ferengi.
15th May '16 2:09:46 AM Doug86
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* In the extended ''{{Discworld}}'' of Creator/AAPessimal, the Librarian embodies this theme. He conceded the City Zoo may keep gorillas and chimpanzees and accepts that to them, this is like a lifetime pass to a five-star hotel with their every need attended to. Indeed, he is consultant to the Zoo and advocates for Ape Rights. However, woe betide the Zoo director if she even ''thinks'' of exhibiting captured orang-utans. [[note]]She in her turn is in complete agreement with the Librarian. Assassins are not stupid.[[/note]]. The Librarian also regularly visits the City's import-export business in exotic animals just to make sure they aren't dealing in orangs on the sly. He is also known to drop in on All Johnson's Howondalandian Food Emporium (''Almost every taste from the continent!'') to ensure a very strict ''Absolutely no bushmeat! The Librarian comes and checks!" provision is being rigidly adhered to. it is not known what happens to Howondalandians who try to illegally meet a market for bushmeat. But they tend not to last very long.

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* In the extended ''{{Discworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' of Creator/AAPessimal, the Librarian embodies this theme. He conceded the City Zoo may keep gorillas and chimpanzees and accepts that to them, this is like a lifetime pass to a five-star hotel with their every need attended to. Indeed, he is consultant to the Zoo and advocates for Ape Rights. However, woe betide the Zoo director if she even ''thinks'' of exhibiting captured orang-utans. [[note]]She in her turn is in complete agreement with the Librarian. Assassins are not stupid.[[/note]]. The Librarian also regularly visits the City's import-export business in exotic animals just to make sure they aren't dealing in orangs on the sly. He is also known to drop in on All Johnson's Howondalandian Food Emporium (''Almost every taste from the continent!'') to ensure a very strict ''Absolutely no bushmeat! The Librarian comes and checks!" provision is being rigidly adhered to. it is not known what happens to Howondalandians who try to illegally meet a market for bushmeat. But they tend not to last very long.
10th May '16 7:24:38 PM DarkHunter
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* Dolphins are another aversion. They are one of the few species that have been observed killing their own kind for sport. Most animals who will kill a member of their own species usually have a logical motive for doing so: self-defense, posturing for dominance that got out of hand, territorial disputes, etc. And while dolphins will kill for those reasons as well, there have been times they've been observed killing each other for no apparent logical reason.
4th Apr '16 9:56:30 PM Cakeman
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* Chimpanzees not only kill rivals in fights for dominance, they even make organized raids into the territory of other clan to gain control of rich food sources. Enemy chimps who didn't escape the battle alive then [[CannibalTribe usually get eaten]].

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* Chimpanzees not only kill rivals in fights for dominance, they even make organized raids into the territory of other clan to gain control of rich food sources. Enemy chimps who didn't escape the battle alive then [[CannibalTribe usually get eaten]]. The gorillas by comparison typically set aside their differences without resorting to violence, though leading gorillas of different clans may sometimes choose to fight each other to the death.
18th Mar '16 12:30:54 PM 20person
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*** In fact, when one Ultramarine ran a combat simulation featuring other Astartes as opponents (because he had already run all other possible simulations), he was detained and scheduled to be disciplined. Then the Word Bearers attacked and they put him in charge of the initial defense.
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