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20th Sep '17 6:33:55 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'', this is a rule within the Dark Brotherhood, an illegal [[MurderInc organization of assassins]] whose membership mostly takes a [[PsychoForHire sadistic glee]] in killing and who practice a ReligionOfEvil. The [[TheCommandments Tenets]] of the Dark Brotherhood forbid any form of betrayal, disobedience, and theft within the Brotherhood, or else incur the Wrath of [[GodOfEvil Sithis]]. This is obviously relaxed during a [[ThePurge Purification]].
14th Sep '17 11:12:15 AM AndreaTx
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** The angels in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have this rule. When angels start turning up dead, Castiel seeks assistance from the Winchesters to help figure out what high ranking demon had figured out a way to kill angels. It literally never occurs to Castiel that an angel could turn on another angels as they are literally siblings. Castiel is shocked and in denial when the highest ranking demon they could find laughs and says demons could only dream of being able to kill angels.

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** * The angels in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have this rule. When angels start turning up dead, Castiel seeks assistance from the Winchesters to help figure out what high ranking demon had figured out a way to kill angels. It literally never occurs to Castiel that an angel could turn on another angels as they are literally siblings. Castiel is shocked and in denial when the highest ranking demon they could find laughs and says demons could only dream of being able to kill angels.



*** There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.

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*** ** There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.
14th Sep '17 11:11:09 AM AndreaTx
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* The Winchester brothers maintain this rule in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Their motto is literally "Saving people. Hunting things. The family business." They refuse to kill humans, no matter what heinous act they may have committed, because their job is only to hunt and kill the supernatural. Dealing with human scum is a job for law enforcement. This leaves weird quandries where they kill vampires who don't prey on humans or ghouls who only eat the dead despite really needing fresh live meat, but will leave incestuous serial killers and spell-casting witches (humans that summon powers from demons) alive.
** There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.

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* ** The angels in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' have this rule. When angels start turning up dead, Castiel seeks assistance from the Winchesters to help figure out what high ranking demon had figured out a way to kill angels. It literally never occurs to Castiel that an angel could turn on another angels as they are literally siblings. Castiel is shocked and in denial when the highest ranking demon they could find laughs and says demons could only dream of being able to kill angels.
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Winchester brothers maintain this rule in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''.about other humans. Their motto is literally "Saving people. Hunting things. The family business." They refuse to kill humans, no matter what heinous act they may have committed, because their job is only to hunt and kill the supernatural. Dealing with human scum is a job for law enforcement. This leaves weird quandries where they kill vampires who don't prey on humans or ghouls who only eat the dead despite really needing fresh live meat, but will leave incestuous serial killers and spell-casting witches (humans that summon powers from demons) alive. \n** It has been lampshaded by Dean.
--> '''Dean:''' Demons, I get. People are crazy.
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There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.
14th Sep '17 11:04:56 AM AndreaTx
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* The Winchester brothers maintain this rule in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Their motto is literally "Saving people. Hunting things. The family business." They refuse to kill humans, no matter what heinous act they may have committed, because their job is only to hunt and kill the supernatural. Dealing with human scum is a job for law enforcement. This leaves weird quandries where they kill vampires who don't prey on humans or ghouls who only eat the dead despite really needing fresh live meat, but will leave incestuous serial killers and spell-casting witches (humans that summon powers from demons) alive.
**There have also been situations where the brothers have killed humans in defense of each other or while under the influence of the supernatural because of a dumb decision they've made. While they acknowledge that these human deaths are a bad thing, it does not having any lasting effect on their perceptions of themselves as good people.
1st Sep '17 8:53:39 AM Morgenthaler
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** Subverted by General Thade in ''Film/PlanetOfTheApes2001''. He claims that apes are morally superior to humans because humans are inherently savage compared to their "more cultured" kind, but he has no problem with killing any apes who are opposed to his plans to wipe out mankind. Or even because [[LeaveNoWitnesses they've seen too much]].
27th Aug '17 7:59:18 PM PaulA
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* Creator/RoaldDahl's ''Literature/TheBFG''. Giants is never killing giants; only humans is. In fact, the BFG claims that humans are the only species on the planet that kill their own kind. Not true in RealLife. In the cartoon, Fleshlumpeater tries to kill the BFG after his plan to imprison the evil giants is exposed, on the basis that he [[NoTrueScotsman doesn't consider him a true giant anymore, but a "human bean"]].

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* Creator/RoaldDahl's ''Literature/TheBFG''. Giants is never killing giants; only humans is. In fact, the BFG claims that humans are the only species on the planet that kill their own kind. Not true in RealLife. In [[WesternAnimation/TheBFG the cartoon, cartoon]], Fleshlumpeater tries to kill the BFG after his plan to imprison the evil giants is exposed, on the basis that he [[NoTrueScotsman doesn't consider him a true giant anymore, but a "human bean"]].
1st Aug '17 1:12:51 AM Vir
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' episode "The Devil's Grip" [[MauveShirt Henchman 21]], who had quit the Monarch's crew, returns to [[SupervillainLair The Cocoon]] to save Dr. Venture. While there, the [[AxCrazy Murderous Moppets]] alert security to have him captured. 21 turns the tables on them by stating the Moppets were responsible for the death of Henchman 24 two seasons ago, [[BattleChant starting a chant of "Hench has killed hench!"]] The security team takes up the chant and converges on the Moppets.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'' episode "The Devil's Grip" [[MauveShirt Henchman 21]], who had quit the Monarch's crew, returns to [[SupervillainLair The Cocoon]] to save Dr. Venture. While there, the [[AxCrazy Murderous Moppets]] alert security to have him captured. 21 turns the tables on them by stating the Moppets were responsible for the death of Henchman 24 two seasons ago, [[BattleChant starting a chant of "Hench has killed hench!"]] The security team takes take up the chant and converges converge on the Moppets.
17th Jul '17 5:13:52 PM Occidensill
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* ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'': "Humans don't respect life the way we do," from D'Anna after the Cylons have exterminated billions of humans. Caprica-Six clubbing this self-same D'Anna over the head with a rock is later denounced as "the first act of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in our history" (though it's really not) during a discussion on executing human detainees. Hypocritically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six for speaking out against the executions.
** They've more recently resorted to [[spoiler:simply blowing each other to bits with their Basestars.]]
** Moreover, Three's comment is incorrect, as [[spoiler:Cavil-One killed all maturing copies of Daniel-Seven and then contaminated the genetic code out of jealousy.]]
** [[spoiler:The {{irony}} is that Caprica-Six prevented D'Anna-Three from committing another act of Cylon-on-Cylon violence. Patricide, in fact.]]

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* ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'': "Humans don't respect life the way we do," from D'Anna after the Cylons have exterminated billions of humans.humans (and presumably severely damaged the biospheres of their planets, what with the nuclear fallout and such). Caprica-Six clubbing this self-same D'Anna over the head with a rock is later denounced as "the first act of Cylon-on-Cylon violence in our history" (though it's really not) during a discussion on executing human detainees. Hypocritically, a Five shoots Caprica-Six for speaking out against the executions.
** They've more recently
execution. They later resorted to [[spoiler:simply simply blowing each other and the trope to bits with their Basestars.]]
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Basestars. Moreover, Three's comment is incorrect, as [[spoiler:Cavil-One killed all maturing copies of Daniel-Seven and then contaminated the genetic code out of jealousy.]]
jealousy.
** [[spoiler:The The {{irony}} is that Caprica-Six prevented D'Anna-Three from unknowingly committing another act of Cylon-on-Cylon violence. Patricide, in fact.]]
10th Jul '17 7:55:37 AM MarqFJA
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* The Eldar in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Killing a fellow Eldar is an unspeakable crime (and not just because they're a DyingRace), which helps fuel that whole MoralMyopia about how a single Eldar life is worth the combined rest of all other sentient life in the galaxy because all the 'lesser' species do horrible stuff to each other. [[UnreliableNarrator Depending on which accounts you listen to]], the Tau may also be an example of this trope to a lesser degree.[[note]]The only known renegade Tau group, Farsight Enclave, and mainstream Tau Empire never came to blows. Farsight has his hands full with friendly neighborhood orks while the reasonings of Ethereals are unknown.[[/note]]
** During the Horus Heresy series it is made pretty clear that prior to the Isstvan V Massacre it was considered taboo for Astartes to kill another Astartes, verging on the unthinkable. It is worth noting, however, the original purpose of the Space Wolves, besides taking part in the Great Crusade, was to be the "Emperor's Executioners". As in, killing other space marines. Although the issue has been deliberately kept nebulous, it seems, given the hints in the literature, they may have performed this specific duty at least once before the Burning of Prospero.
*** In fact, when one Ultramarine ran a combat simulation featuring other Astartes as opponents (because he had already run all other possible simulations), he was detained and scheduled to be disciplined. Then the Word Bearers attacked and they put him in charge of the initial defense.

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* The Eldar in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. Killing 40000}}'':
** The Eldar have an interesting relationship with this trope.
*** For the Craftworld and Exodite factions of the Eldar, killing
a fellow Eldar is an unspeakable crime (and not just because they're a DyingRace), which helps fuel that whole MoralMyopia about how a single Eldar life is worth the combined rest of all other sentient life in the galaxy because all the 'lesser' species do horrible stuff to each other. other.
*** Subverted with the Dark Eldar, however, who only refrain from their ChronicBackstabbingDisorder ways in exactly two situations: The first is the period between the beginning of a realspace slave-raid and until the spoils of the raid are properly divided after their return to Commorragh; the second is when one Dark Eldar Kabal has been dealt a serious defeat by non-Eldar, which always prompts retaliation from the rest of the Kabals against the offenders. This is a matter of purely pragmatic HonorAmongThieves, because in the first case the Dark Eldar's survival is absolutely dependent on a constant and stable supply of slaves to torture and feed upon their agony, while in the second case every Dark Eldar has a vested interest in maintaining their race's image as TheDreaded among "lesser" races. Outside these specific circumstances, the Dark Eldar brook no taboo on killing one another, let alone Eldar from other factions; it helps that they have UterineReplicator and [[BackFromTheDead resurrection]] tech to maintain a non-negative population growth rate.
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[[UnreliableNarrator Depending on which accounts you listen to]], the Tau may also be an example of this trope to a lesser degree.[[note]]The only known renegade Tau group, Farsight Enclave, and mainstream Tau Empire never came to blows. Farsight has his hands full with friendly neighborhood orks while the reasonings of Ethereals are unknown.[[/note]]
** During the Horus Heresy series it is made pretty clear that prior to the Isstvan V Massacre it was considered taboo for Astartes to kill another Astartes, verging on the unthinkable. It is worth noting, however, the original purpose of the Space Wolves, besides taking part in the Great Crusade, was to be the "Emperor's Executioners". As in, killing other space marines. Although the issue has been deliberately kept nebulous, it seems, given the hints in the literature, they may have performed this specific duty at least once before the Burning of Prospero.
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Prospero. In fact, when one Ultramarine ran a combat simulation featuring other Astartes as opponents (because he had already run all other possible simulations), he was detained and scheduled to be disciplined. Then the Word Bearers attacked and they put him in charge of the initial defense.
8th Jul '17 4:52:50 PM MarqFJA
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