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6th Feb '16 4:20:58 AM rafi
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* ComicBook/EmmaFrost. While she never adopted the name or costume, she essentially became this to Jean Grey after the latter's death in ''New X-Men'', replacing her as the team's resident telepath, the Institute's headmistress and Cyclops' bedmate. This was a status that she was aware of and more than one character (including a teenage Jean) has needled her about it.
15th Jan '16 2:50:00 AM LondonKdS
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* In the ''Manga/{{Batman}}'' manga, the Hangman deliberately tries to do this to Batman, but [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jumps Off The Slippery Slope]] right at the beginning by [[EngineeredHeroism persuading a mentally-disabled man to commit a robbery]] and then killing him, to establish his vigilante credentials.
31st Dec '15 12:59:36 AM Anddrix
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** Also, in the ''Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}'' mini-arc 'Hereafter', after Superman vanishes from the face of the planet after Toyman manages to pull of a successful attack on him, '''''{{Lobo}}''''', of all people, tries to step in as his replacement.
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** Also, in the ''Franchise/{{Justice League|of America}}'' mini-arc 'Hereafter', after Superman vanishes from the face of the planet after Toyman manages to pull of a successful attack on him, '''''{{Lobo}}''''', '''''Lobo''''', of all people, tries to step in as his replacement.
29th Dec '15 6:12:01 PM JuanAditya
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* Plutia in ''VideoGame/HyperdimensionNeptuniaVictory'' is considered as SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute for Compa, as both are TheDitz and CombatMedic. Unlike Compa, however, she is less heroic than aforementioned character and more like a TokenEvilTeammate, [[TheDreaded scaremonger]] and VillainProtagonist, especially as Iris Heart; she pretty much spend most of time scaring anyone else, both friend and foe alike. Much like Ash Crimson above, the reception was [[MarySue mi]][[JerkSue xed]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff bag]].
8th Dec '15 9:33:37 AM cdrood
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*** While Guy fits, he technically didn't replace Hal. Hal resigned to spend more time with his girlfriend (who subsequently became a more psychotic version of Star Sapphire) and was replaced by John Stewart as Earth's GL. Later, during Crisis on Infinite Earths, a faction of the Guardians healed Guy from a coma and gave him a ring and mission. By the end of that mission, Hal was a Green Lantern again.
7th Dec '15 6:40:16 PM Dere
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Kaine was never Spider-Man's substitute
** ...However, since Marvel wanted to have its cake and eat it, too, they also introduced Kaine, a depressingly-basic example of this trope. Kaine is drawn much taller and stronger than the original Spider-Man, he is [[NighInvulnerability nigh-invulnerable]], and his spider-sense is replaced with full on clairvoyance. He killed several of Spider-Man's rogues in his early appearances--leaping suddenly out of the background like an unlockable ''Mortal Kombat'' character and delivering his one-hit-kill finisher. He was never a big hit with the fandom, but that hasn't stopped Marvel from trying to put him over.
7th Dec '15 6:26:31 PM Dere
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** ...However, since Marvel wanted to have its cake and eat it, too, they also introduced Kaine, a depressingly-basic example of this trope. Kaine is drawn much taller and stronger than the original Spider-Man, he is [[NighInvulnerability nigh-invulnerable]], and his spider-sense is replaced with full on clairvoyance. He killed several of Spider-Man's rogues in his early appearances--leaping suddenly out of the background like an unlockable ''Mortal Kombat'' character and delivering his one-hit-kill finisher--while paradoxically hating Parker for photographing him taking a life. (Erm...) He was never a big hit with the fandom, but that hasn't stopped Marvel from trying to put him over.
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** ...However, since Marvel wanted to have its cake and eat it, too, they also introduced Kaine, a depressingly-basic example of this trope. Kaine is drawn much taller and stronger than the original Spider-Man, he is [[NighInvulnerability nigh-invulnerable]], and his spider-sense is replaced with full on clairvoyance. He killed several of Spider-Man's rogues in his early appearances--leaping suddenly out of the background like an unlockable ''Mortal Kombat'' character and delivering his one-hit-kill finisher--while paradoxically hating Parker for photographing him taking a life. (Erm...) finisher. He was never a big hit with the fandom, but that hasn't stopped Marvel from trying to put him over. over.
18th Nov '15 2:56:14 AM DoctorNemesis
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* Franchise/WonderWoman was forced to give up her name and costume because her mother had a vision of her death. Her place was taken by Artemis, but in the end it was she who was killed, not Diana. The trope was also deconstructed, as Artemis's arrogant and abrasive manner in the role rubbed many of Diana's former allies up the wrong way and made things much more difficult for her than they had to be; Batman, for one, openly refused to consider Artemis as Wonder Woman.
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* Franchise/WonderWoman was forced to give up her name and costume because her mother had a vision of her death. Her place was taken by Artemis, but in the end it was she who was killed, not Diana. The trope was also deconstructed, as Artemis's arrogant and arrogant, abrasive manner and often overly violent conduct in the role undid a lot of Diana's hard work in getting Man's World to accept her and the Amazons and rubbed many of Diana's former allies up the wrong way and made way, thus making things much more difficult for her than they had to be; Batman, for one, openly refused to consider Artemis as Wonder Woman.be.
18th Nov '15 2:53:46 AM DoctorNemesis
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* Franchise/WonderWoman was forced to give up her name and costume because her mother had a vision of her death. Her place was taken by Artemis, but in the end it was she who was killed, not Diana. ** This was essentially [[RecycledScript an update of an older story]] from the 70's, wherein Diana was briefly replaced as Wonder Woman by an abrasive redheaded Amazon named Orana. Orana was KilledOffForReal the very next issue, allowing Diana to reclaim her costume and identity.
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* Franchise/WonderWoman was forced to give up her name and costume because her mother had a vision of her death. Her place was taken by Artemis, but in the end it was she who was killed, not Diana. Diana. The trope was also deconstructed, as Artemis's arrogant and abrasive manner in the role rubbed many of Diana's former allies up the wrong way and made things much more difficult for her than they had to be; Batman, for one, openly refused to consider Artemis as Wonder Woman. ** This was essentially [[RecycledScript an update of an older story]] from the 70's, wherein Diana was briefly replaced as Wonder Woman by an abrasive redheaded Amazon named Orana. Orana was KilledOffForReal the very next issue, allowing Diana to reclaim her costume and identity.
7th Nov '15 8:22:33 PM nombretomado
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* In TheEighties, Steve Rogers, the original CaptainAmerica, was replaced by John Walker, a NinetiesAntiHero version of himself. To his credit, Walker did eventually make an honest effort to emulate Rogers' ethics until the RedSkull completed his manipulation of him. When Rogers regained the mantle, Walker continued operating as the U.S. Agent. In something of an inversion from the previous examples, the DarkerAndEdgier Walker wore the classic red, white, and blue Cap outfit, while Steve took up a black costume and shield as The Captain.
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* In TheEighties, Steve Rogers, the original CaptainAmerica, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, was replaced by John Walker, a NinetiesAntiHero version of himself. To his credit, Walker did eventually make an honest effort to emulate Rogers' ethics until the RedSkull ComicBook/RedSkull completed his manipulation of him. When Rogers regained the mantle, Walker continued operating as the U.S. Agent. In something of an inversion from the previous examples, the DarkerAndEdgier Walker wore the classic red, white, and blue Cap outfit, while Steve took up a black costume and shield as The Captain.
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