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30th Jul '16 8:22:13 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** In the end, the main angel characters conclude that this was actually AllAccordingToPlan on God's part; a ludicrous number of coincidences neither faction was responsible for had to take place for it to happen.
14th Jul '16 1:14:35 AM MadSpy
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is a subversion. In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'', it was initially suspected that Harry was the Heir of Slytherin due to an incident where he revealed that he could speak in Parseltongue when trying to stop a snake from attempting to attack a fellow student. This caused even Harry to wonder if he is indeed related to Salazar Slytherin, and thus the Heir of Slytherin. Harry, rejects the evil path that his heritage would be expected to bring. But he's not even the Heir. Dumbledore reveals that Harry Potter was not actually a direct relative of Slytherin (the real reason he could speak in Parseltongue was because the same event where Voldemort's attempt to murder Harry Potter backfired also resulted in a part of himself being transferred to Harry Potter, which included Parseltongue). [[spoiler:The actual Heir of Slytherin was Tom Riddle, who was a student of Hogwarts fifty years prior and, more importantly, the person who became Lord Voldemort.]]
** In the final book, this turns out to be an apparent ''double'' subversion, as it turns out that Harry and Voldemort are [[spoiler: each descended from one of the three Peverell brothers.]] As such, though they are likely several generations removed, Harry and Voldemort are unknowningly ''distant'' '''''COUSINS'''''. Hints at this are laid out at least as far back as ''Half Blood Prince'', which sees Marvolo Gaunt blatantly mention the "Peverell coat of arms", and indicating that it at one point belonged to Slytherin or to someone related to him. Gaunt was very proud of his relation to Slytherin at the very least. The Peverell coat of arms (actually a symbol for [[spoiler: The Deathly Hallows]]) actually indicates that the Peverells did actually own said objects. While nobody knows if the brother who had gotten the Wand from Death had any children, we know that two of them did, and that each passed down their Hallows along the family bloodlines: [[spoiler: The Resurrection Stone and the Invisibility Cloak of Death]] each wound up in the hands of direct descendants of these two brothers. At least up until Marvolo's time, as he still possessed it. Presumably after his death the ring ended up in the hands of his son Morfin. At that point, Voldemort got ahold of his ancestor's heirloom without ever knowing what he actually had, after murdering his uncle. The other, wound up in Harry's hands and he ultimately gained mastery of all three. This would have made him 'Master of Death. Which sounds like it might be something akin to an anti-christ itself. And Harry rejects this as much as he rejected the idea of being the heir of Slytherin. Unlike Harry, who rejected the idea of being the Heir of Slytherin, Voldemort fully embraced the idea. However due to their very distant relationship, Harry actually ''could'' be considered to be an heir to Slytherin, though not necessarily the heir that would open the Chamber. Technically, he did do so, but he did it in order to rescue Ginny from Voldemort. Though Harry realizes his connection to the brother who originally owned his cloak, he never seems to put that together with his distant relation to Voldemort, since the Gaunts, and later Voldemort himself, are also descended of the Peverells. Voldemort, who knew nothing of the legend of the Hallows, never even has the issue cross his mind. So on one hand, we have the anti anti christ (Harry, Master of Death and who could have been a possible Heir of Slytherin, due to his distant relation to the man), and on the other, just the anti-christ (Voldemort, who legitimately ''was'' and ''embraced'' being the Heir of Slytherin. The fact that this ends up being revealed as a FamilyFeud, despite neither side knowing it, makes the situation that much stranger.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is a subversion. In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'', it was initially suspected that Harry was the Heir of Slytherin due to an incident where he revealed that he could speak in Parseltongue when trying to stop a snake from attempting to attack a fellow student. This caused even Harry to wonder if he is indeed related to Salazar Slytherin, and thus the Heir of Slytherin. Harry, Harry rejects the evil path that his heritage would be expected to bring. But he's However, he is not even the Heir. Dumbledore reveals that Harry Potter was not actually a direct relative of Slytherin (the real reason he could speak in Parseltongue was because the same event where Voldemort's attempt to murder Harry Potter backfired also resulted in a part of himself being transferred to Harry Potter, Harry, which included Parseltongue). [[spoiler:The actual Heir of Slytherin was Tom Riddle, who was a student of Hogwarts fifty years prior and, more importantly, the person who became Lord Voldemort.]]
** In the final book, this turns out to be an apparent ''double'' subversion, as it turns out that Harry and Voldemort are [[spoiler: each descended from one of the three Peverell brothers.]] As such, though they are likely several generations removed, Harry and Voldemort are unknowningly ''distant'' '''''COUSINS'''''. Hints at this are laid out at least as far back as ''Half Blood Prince'', which sees Marvolo Gaunt blatantly mention the "Peverell coat of arms", and indicating indicate that it at one point belonged to Slytherin or to someone related to him. Gaunt was very proud of his relation to Slytherin at the very least. The Peverell coat of arms (actually a symbol for [[spoiler: The Deathly Hallows]]) actually indicates that the Peverells did actually own said objects. While nobody knows if the brother who had gotten the Wand from Death had any children, we know that two of them did, and that each passed down their Hallows along the family bloodlines: [[spoiler: The Resurrection Stone and the Invisibility Cloak of Death]] each wound up in the hands of direct descendants of these two brothers. At brothers at least up until Marvolo's time, as he still possessed it. Presumably after his death the ring ended up in the hands of his son Morfin. At that point, Voldemort got ahold hold of his ancestor's heirloom without ever knowing what he actually had, had after murdering his uncle. The other, other wound up in Harry's hands and he ultimately gained mastery of all three. This would have made him 'Master of Death. Which Death' which sounds like it might be something akin to an anti-christ itself. And Harry rejects this as much as he rejected the idea of being the heir of Slytherin. Unlike Harry, who rejected the idea of being the Heir of Slytherin, Voldemort fully embraced the idea. However due to their very distant relationship, Harry actually ''could'' be considered to be an heir to Slytherin, though not necessarily the heir that would open the Chamber. Technically, he did do so, but he did it in order to rescue Ginny from Voldemort. Though Harry realizes his connection to the brother who originally owned his cloak, he never seems to put that together with his distant relation to Voldemort, since the Gaunts, and later Voldemort himself, are also descended of from the Peverells. Voldemort, who knew nothing of the legend of the Hallows, never even has the issue cross his mind. So on one hand, we have the anti anti christ anti-anti-christ (Harry, Master of Death and Death, who could have been a possible Heir of Slytherin, Slytherin due to his distant relation to the man), and on the other, just the anti-christ (Voldemort, who legitimately ''was'' and ''embraced'' being the Heir of Slytherin.Slytherin). The fact that this ends up being revealed as a FamilyFeud, despite neither side knowing it, makes the situation that much stranger.
14th Jul '16 1:07:14 AM MadSpy
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** Due to the nature of the Marvel Universe, [[spoiler:A certain fallen angel named Lucifer who may or may not be the real thing, was weakened and split into many fragments after landing that compete with each other and several arch demons like Mephisto for the title Satan. Each has their own hell dimension to boot.]] The many hell lords made a temporary truce, and spent a great amount of time devising a way to get '''all''' their genetic material into one human baby, so that he truly would be the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin undisputed son of Satan]]. On his birth satanic cults moved to make sure Daimon was evil, but despite both the genetics and the upbringing, he ended up being a hero! [[spoiler: He later has a FaceHeelTurn and goes to simply being TheAntichrist.]]

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** Due to the nature of the Marvel Universe, [[spoiler:A certain fallen angel named Lucifer who (who may or may not be the real thing, thing) was weakened and split into many fragments after landing that on Earth. These fragments compete with each other and several arch demons like Mephisto for the title Satan. Each has their own hell dimension to boot.]] The many hell lords made a temporary truce, and spent a great amount of time devising a way to get '''all''' their genetic material into one human baby, so that he truly would be the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin undisputed son of Satan]]. On his birth satanic cults moved to make sure Daimon was evil, but despite both the genetics and the upbringing, he ended up being a hero! [[spoiler: He later has a FaceHeelTurn and goes to simply being TheAntichrist.]]
19th Jun '16 8:10:35 PM nombretomado
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*** Oh all that super natural genetic modifying ended up being more successful than thought, as "Satan" had a daughter too!... or not as Satana (eventually) turned on her fathers and became a hero too. [[TheDevilIsALoser Yeah evil is stupid]]. She's still a bit mean (and a member of the {{Thunderbolts}}). To be fair, as ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' pointed out, fallen angels are still ''angels''. Evil isn't something they're really designed for, and falling isn't something they're "born" doing.

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*** Oh all that super natural genetic modifying ended up being more successful than thought, as "Satan" had a daughter too!... or not as Satana (eventually) turned on her fathers and became a hero too. [[TheDevilIsALoser Yeah evil is stupid]]. She's still a bit mean (and a member of the {{Thunderbolts}}).ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}). To be fair, as ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' pointed out, fallen angels are still ''angels''. Evil isn't something they're really designed for, and falling isn't something they're "born" doing.
15th Jun '16 4:27:09 PM Doug86
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*** Oh all that super natural genetic modifying ended up being more successful than thought, as "Satan" had a daughter too!... or not as Satana (eventually) turned on her fathers and became a hero too. [[TheDevilIsALoser Yeah evil is stupid]]. She's still a bit mean (and a member of the {{Thunderbolts}}). To be fair, as SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal pointed out, fallen angels are still ''angels''. Evil isn't something they're really designed for, and falling isn't something they're "born" doing.

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*** Oh all that super natural genetic modifying ended up being more successful than thought, as "Satan" had a daughter too!... or not as Satana (eventually) turned on her fathers and became a hero too. [[TheDevilIsALoser Yeah evil is stupid]]. She's still a bit mean (and a member of the {{Thunderbolts}}). To be fair, as SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' pointed out, fallen angels are still ''angels''. Evil isn't something they're really designed for, and falling isn't something they're "born" doing.
11th Jun '16 10:32:14 PM Doug86
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* MarvelComics has this character named Daimon Hellstrom, '''Son of Satan'''! And frankly, with a name that's just barely not "Demon Hellstorm", what do you expect?

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* MarvelComics Creator/MarvelComics has this character named Daimon Hellstrom, '''Son of Satan'''! And frankly, with a name that's just barely not "Demon Hellstorm", what do you expect?
14th May '16 1:28:48 AM Doug86
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* Genesis from the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} [[spoiler:who is a clone from Apocalypse has turn out this partly because of his very superman style upbringing in a virtual reality partly because he doesn't know who he is. so far]].

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* Genesis from the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ComicBook/XMen [[spoiler:who is a clone from Apocalypse has turn out this partly because of his very superman style upbringing in a virtual reality partly because he doesn't know who he is. so far]].
23rd Apr '16 8:32:06 PM Xelloss08
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* In the ''Literature/StarlightAndShadows'' trilogy, the evil drow goddess Lolth chooses the priestess Liriel Baenre to be her champion, who will carry the dark magic of the drow to the surface world and allow them to subjugate all other races. Liriel, however, has no desire for conquest, simply seeking to explore strange foreign lands; and once she learns of her goddess's intentions, she begins struggling to break free of Lolth's influence.
20th Apr '16 6:50:45 PM spiritplumber
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* Tazio from Ronald Russel Roach's ''Armageddonquest''. Then again, it's not over yet.

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* Tazio from Ronald Russel Roach's ''Armageddonquest''. Then again, it's not over yet.The comic is complete and can be read here http://www.3rhp.com/aqhp/aq1.htm
20th Apr '16 8:02:46 AM EricNeoMatrix
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* In ''FanFic/SonicXDarkChaos'', [[spoiler: Sonic, Shadow, and Eric]] all become this and refuse to join Maledict.
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