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19th Jan '16 2:41:50 AM Adept
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* ''KyouranKazokuNikki'' centers around invoking this trope by raising the various possible "Anti-Christs" in a loving family environment. Well, a wacky loving family environment. * ''MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok'': Loki, bringer of Ragnarok in Myth/NorseMythology, ''doesn't want to''. Interesting in that it isn't the "Devil" character who wants/expects him to do it, but the God, Odin. The massive psychological contortions of the other gods of Asgard as they argue simultaneously that the only way to stop Ragnarok is to kill Loki...but that YouCantFightFate in that he can't choose not to start it. He chooses not to regardless, which ''drives them nuts''.
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* ''KyouranKazokuNikki'' ''Manga/KyouranKazokuNikki'' centers around invoking this trope by raising the various possible "Anti-Christs" in a loving family environment. Well, a wacky loving family environment. * ''MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok'': ''Manga/MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok'': Loki, bringer of Ragnarok in Myth/NorseMythology, ''doesn't want to''. Interesting in that it isn't the "Devil" character who wants/expects him to do it, but the God, Odin. The massive psychological contortions of the other gods of Asgard as they argue simultaneously that the only way to stop Ragnarok is to kill Loki...but that YouCantFightFate in that he can't choose not to start it. He chooses not to regardless, which ''drives them nuts''.
1st Jan '16 8:28:18 PM jormis29
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* Hamel in ''ViolinistOfHameln'' is Great Demon King's Chestra's son, heir and successor, and is constantly harassed by the demon captains who hope to trigger a permanent berserker state in him (during which his body mutates horribly and he's virtually unstoppable, tending to attack anything that moves in a blind rage). Hamel has a couple words to say about that, and they usually require heavy censoring; thus they keep attacking him and trying to turns humans against him. None of this would have been necessary had they kidnapped Pandora away from his sight, and offered him asylum from the [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters bad bad humans]] afterwards, since he was just a freaking kid at the point. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a EvilPlan to make him more powerful from the constant conflict between his human and inhuman sides... so he'd make a tastier, more nutritious snack to his [[EldritchAbomination cannibal father]] after the latter's eventual [[SealedEvilInACan release from Pandora's box]].]]
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* Hamel in ''ViolinistOfHameln'' ''Manga/ViolinistOfHameln'' is Great Demon King's Chestra's son, heir and successor, and is constantly harassed by the demon captains who hope to trigger a permanent berserker state in him (during which his body mutates horribly and he's virtually unstoppable, tending to attack anything that moves in a blind rage). Hamel has a couple words to say about that, and they usually require heavy censoring; thus they keep attacking him and trying to turns humans against him. None of this would have been necessary had they kidnapped Pandora away from his sight, and offered him asylum from the [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters bad bad humans]] afterwards, since he was just a freaking kid at the point. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a EvilPlan to make him more powerful from the constant conflict between his human and inhuman sides... so he'd make a tastier, more nutritious snack to his [[EldritchAbomination cannibal father]] after the latter's eventual [[SealedEvilInACan release from Pandora's box]].PandorasBox.]]
31st Dec '15 6:49:59 PM Anddrix
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** Selfdemonstrating/{{Loki}} in every version is destined to bring about the Ragnarök and in several had no intention to, but either [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny demanded it]] or was [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery pushed far enough]] to do so. Special mention goes to the [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard third-fourth incarnation]] who managed to both destroy and save Asgard with it at the same time.
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** Selfdemonstrating/{{Loki}} Loki in every version is destined to bring about the Ragnarök and in several had no intention to, but either [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny demanded it]] or was [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery pushed far enough]] to do so. Special mention goes to the [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard third-fourth incarnation]] who managed to both destroy and save Asgard with it at the same time.
19th Dec '15 5:08:10 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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->''"And I do not know what ''[[{{Satan}} thy Father]]'' will say..."''
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->''"And I do not know what ''[[{{Satan}} thy Father]]'' ''thy Father'' will say..."''
14th Dec '15 12:00:34 AM LovePsychothefirst
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** Rin's younger twin brother Yukio is a [[AvertedTrope aversion]] since he is human [[spoiler: ...or so it was believed. And ever since he's started showing his power, he's also started showing some [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope madness]]...]]
11th Dec '15 6:46:15 PM AirofMystery
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** ''Series/KamenRiderDecade'' is a confusing example: [[spoiler: thanks to amnesia, at different points [[TheHero Tsukasa]] ends up both [[PhlebotinumRebel fighting Dai-Shocker]] and [[BigBad leading Dai-Shocker]], and [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor rescuing all the other Riders then killing all the other Riders]].]]
7th Nov '15 3:52:38 PM nombretomado
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** Depending on your point of view, you could see Shinji himself as this, particularly in the [[RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild series]] - His birth date contains an awful lot of sixes, and it is implied that he is the "chosen one" of an ancient apocalyptic prohecy. Abandoned by his conspiracy parents, he grew up to be a [[ShrinkingViolet crippingly timid,]] but kind young boy who never meant anyone any harm, but his fragile mind was not prepared for [[BreakTheCutie what]] [[CosmicPlayThing this]] [[TraumaCongaLine cruel]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation world]] [[KillTheOnesYouLove would]] [[BungledSuicide send]] [[DespairEventHorizon his]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds way...]] chillingly, the Rebuild series reveals that even if he never had any intention of causing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, or even went as far as actively striving to prevent it, the conspiring parties will [[UnwittingPawn ''make him'']]. Cue one of the most devastating MyGodWhatHaveIDone moments known to man...
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** Depending on your point of view, you could see Shinji himself as this, particularly in the [[RebuildOfEvangelion [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Rebuild series]] - His birth date contains an awful lot of sixes, and it is implied that he is the "chosen one" of an ancient apocalyptic prohecy. Abandoned by his conspiracy parents, he grew up to be a [[ShrinkingViolet crippingly timid,]] but kind young boy who never meant anyone any harm, but his fragile mind was not prepared for [[BreakTheCutie what]] [[CosmicPlayThing this]] [[TraumaCongaLine cruel]] [[GoMadFromTheRevelation world]] [[KillTheOnesYouLove would]] [[BungledSuicide send]] [[DespairEventHorizon his]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds way...]] chillingly, the Rebuild series reveals that even if he never had any intention of causing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, or even went as far as actively striving to prevent it, the conspiring parties will [[UnwittingPawn ''make him'']]. Cue one of the most devastating MyGodWhatHaveIDone moments known to man...
27th Oct '15 11:56:32 AM ChaoticNovelist
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This is not a forum. "I wonder" does not belong here. Also, the example itself was Zero Context. The Castle thing was also a bunch of natter
** Selfdemonstrating/{{Loki}} in every version is pretty much destined to bring about the Ragnarök and in several had no intention to, but either [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny demanded it]] or was [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery pushed far enough]] to do so. Special mention goes to the [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard third-fourth incarnation]] who managed to both destroy and save Asgard with it at the same time.
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** Selfdemonstrating/{{Loki}} in every version is pretty much destined to bring about the Ragnarök and in several had no intention to, but either [[BecauseDestinySaysSo destiny demanded it]] or was [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery pushed far enough]] to do so. Special mention goes to the [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard third-fourth incarnation]] who managed to both destroy and save Asgard with it at the same time.

* From the second ''Film/AustinPowers'' movie, Dr Evil's son exemplifies this trope. ** ...which makes him an [[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment Anti]] Anti Antichrist in the third. I wonder if they'll make any more sequels...

* Inverted in ''Franchise/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker is implied to be created by a Sith Lord in order to wipe out the Jedi. The Jedi discover him and believe he's the Chosen One who's supposed to destroy the Sith, but he ultimately chooses not to (out of love, of course) and instead destroys the Jedi, ''then'' (again because of love) chooses to destroy the Sith. The oddest prediction turns out to be the most accurate, that he would 'bring balance to the Force' by making both sides start again.
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* Inverted in ''Franchise/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker is implied to be created by a Sith Lord in order to wipe out the Jedi. The Jedi discover him and believe he's the Chosen One who's supposed to destroy the Sith, but he ultimately chooses not to (out of love, of course) love) and instead destroys the Jedi, ''then'' (again because of love) chooses to destroy the Sith. The oddest prediction turns out to be the most accurate, that he would 'bring balance to the Force' by making both sides start again.

* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is a subversion. In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'', it was initially suspected that Harry was the Heir of Slytherin due to an incident where he revealed that he could speak in Parseltongue when trying to stop a snake from attempting to attack a fellow student. This caused even Harry to wonder if he is indeed related to Salazar Slytherin, and thus the Heir of Slytherin. Harry, of course, rejects the evil path that his heritage would be expected to bring. But he's not even the Heir. Dumbledore reveals that Harry Potter was not actually a direct relative of Slytherin (the real reason he could speak in Parseltongue was because the same event where Voldemort's attempt to murder Harry Potter backfired also resulted in a part of himself being transferred to Harry Potter, which included Parseltongue). [[spoiler:The actual Heir of Slytherin was Tom Riddle, who was a student of Hogwarts fifty years prior and, more importantly, the person who became Lord Voldemort.]] ** In the final book, this turns out to be an apparent ''double'' subversion, as it turns out that Harry and Voldemort are [[spoiler: each descended from one of the three Peverell brothers.]] As such, though they are likely several generations removed, Harry and Voldemort are unknowningly ''distant'' '''''COUSINS'''''. Hints at this are laid out at least as far back as ''Half Blood Prince'', which sees Marvolo Gaunt blatantly mention the "Peverell coat of arms", and indicating that it at one point belonged to Slytherin or to someone related to him. Gaunt was very proud of his relation to Slytherin at the very least. The Peverell coat of arms (actually a symbol for [[spoiler: The Deathly Hallows]]) actually indicates that the Peverells did actually own said objects. While nobody knows if the brother who had gotten the Wand from Death had any children, we know that two of them did, and that each passed down their Hallows along the family bloodlines: [[spoiler: The Resurrection Stone and the Invisibility Cloak of Death]] each wound up in the hands of direct descendants of these two brothers. At least up until Marvolo's time, as he still possessed it. Presumably after his death the ring ended up in the hands of his son Morfin. At that point, Voldemort got ahold of his ancestor's heirloom without ever knowing what he actually had, after murdering his uncle. The other, of course, wound up in Harry's hands and he ultimately gained mastery of all three. This would have made him 'Master of Death. Which sounds like it might be something akin to an anti-christ itself. And Harry rejects this as much as he rejected the idea of being the heir of Slytherin. Unlike Harry, who rejected the idea of being the Heir of Slytherin, of course, Voldemort fully embraced the idea. However due to their very distant relationship, Harry actually ''could'' be considered to be an heir to Slytherin, though not necessarily the heir that would open the Chamber. Technically, he did do so, but he did it in order to rescue Ginny from Voldemort. Though Harry realizes his connection to the brother who originally owned his cloak, he never seems to put that together with his distant relation to Voldemort, since the Gaunts, and later Voldemort himself, are also descended of the Peverells. Voldemort, who knew nothing of the legend of the Hallows, never even has the issue cross his mind. So on one hand, we have the anti anti christ (Harry, Master of Death and who could have been a possible Heir of Slytherin, due to his distant relation to the man), and on the other, just the anti-christ (Voldemort, who legitimately ''was'' and ''embraced'' being the Heir of Slytherin. The fact that this ends up being revealed as a FamilyFeud, despite neither side knowing it, makes the situation that much stranger.
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is a subversion. In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'', it was initially suspected that Harry was the Heir of Slytherin due to an incident where he revealed that he could speak in Parseltongue when trying to stop a snake from attempting to attack a fellow student. This caused even Harry to wonder if he is indeed related to Salazar Slytherin, and thus the Heir of Slytherin. Harry, of course, rejects the evil path that his heritage would be expected to bring. But he's not even the Heir. Dumbledore reveals that Harry Potter was not actually a direct relative of Slytherin (the real reason he could speak in Parseltongue was because the same event where Voldemort's attempt to murder Harry Potter backfired also resulted in a part of himself being transferred to Harry Potter, which included Parseltongue). [[spoiler:The actual Heir of Slytherin was Tom Riddle, who was a student of Hogwarts fifty years prior and, more importantly, the person who became Lord Voldemort.]] ** In the final book, this turns out to be an apparent ''double'' subversion, as it turns out that Harry and Voldemort are [[spoiler: each descended from one of the three Peverell brothers.]] As such, though they are likely several generations removed, Harry and Voldemort are unknowningly ''distant'' '''''COUSINS'''''. Hints at this are laid out at least as far back as ''Half Blood Prince'', which sees Marvolo Gaunt blatantly mention the "Peverell coat of arms", and indicating that it at one point belonged to Slytherin or to someone related to him. Gaunt was very proud of his relation to Slytherin at the very least. The Peverell coat of arms (actually a symbol for [[spoiler: The Deathly Hallows]]) actually indicates that the Peverells did actually own said objects. While nobody knows if the brother who had gotten the Wand from Death had any children, we know that two of them did, and that each passed down their Hallows along the family bloodlines: [[spoiler: The Resurrection Stone and the Invisibility Cloak of Death]] each wound up in the hands of direct descendants of these two brothers. At least up until Marvolo's time, as he still possessed it. Presumably after his death the ring ended up in the hands of his son Morfin. At that point, Voldemort got ahold of his ancestor's heirloom without ever knowing what he actually had, after murdering his uncle. The other, of course, wound up in Harry's hands and he ultimately gained mastery of all three. This would have made him 'Master of Death. Which sounds like it might be something akin to an anti-christ itself. And Harry rejects this as much as he rejected the idea of being the heir of Slytherin. Unlike Harry, who rejected the idea of being the Heir of Slytherin, of course, Voldemort fully embraced the idea. However due to their very distant relationship, Harry actually ''could'' be considered to be an heir to Slytherin, though not necessarily the heir that would open the Chamber. Technically, he did do so, but he did it in order to rescue Ginny from Voldemort. Though Harry realizes his connection to the brother who originally owned his cloak, he never seems to put that together with his distant relation to Voldemort, since the Gaunts, and later Voldemort himself, are also descended of the Peverells. Voldemort, who knew nothing of the legend of the Hallows, never even has the issue cross his mind. So on one hand, we have the anti anti christ (Harry, Master of Death and who could have been a possible Heir of Slytherin, due to his distant relation to the man), and on the other, just the anti-christ (Voldemort, who legitimately ''was'' and ''embraced'' being the Heir of Slytherin. The fact that this ends up being revealed as a FamilyFeud, despite neither side knowing it, makes the situation that much stranger.

** {{Word of God}} says [[spoiler: he's not the son of Satan. His father is a demon who made a deal with the Devil to become (mostly) human (which is why he doesn't die: the Devil can't transform him completely), and Satan keeps him close because while Sam could be the Antichrist, he's also afraid of him. As a half-human, half-demon child, Sam can bring him down. So the closeness is because Lucifer wants to keep an eye on him and make sure he becomes the Antichrist instead of the Devil's downfall. Of course, this ignores the fact that Sam has a little brother, but then he did get [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Cousin Chucked]] after 2 episodes.]]
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** {{Word of God}} says [[spoiler: he's not the son of Satan. His father is a demon who made a deal with the Devil to become (mostly) human (which is why he doesn't die: the Devil can't transform him completely), and Satan keeps him close because while Sam could be the Antichrist, he's also afraid of him. As a half-human, half-demon child, Sam can bring him down. So the closeness is because Lucifer wants to keep an eye on him and make sure he becomes the Antichrist instead of the Devil's downfall. Of course, this This ignores the fact that Sam has a little brother, but then he did get [[ChuckCunninghamSyndrome Cousin Chucked]] after 2 episodes.]]

* In ''{{Exalted}}'', it's always possible for an Abyssal or Infernal Exalted to defy the will of their [[OmnicidalManiac respective]] [[TheLegionsOfHell masters]] and do the right thing. Unfortunately, this tends to bite them in the ass -- Abyssals gain Resonance for adopting mortal trappings, and must bleed it off by adopting the trappings of death (e.g. sleeping in crypts, performing funerary rites) lest it explode and kill everyone close to them, and Infernals build Torment that can only be bled off by [[CardCarryingVillain doing villainous things such as monologuing, sticking people in death traps, etc]]. ** Actually, the Infernal curse [[CursedWithAwesome isn't that bad]], due to...''[[NobleDemon creative]]''...applications of Acts of Villainy. *** Don't go as far as PokeThePoodle, though. The Yozis can get wise to that. ** And a little extra note on the Infernals -- their [[FunctionalMagic Charms]] are not an inherent function of their Exaltation, but rather derive directly from their Yozi masters. This means that the Infernals have direct influence from their masters... but the relationship goes both ways, and if an Infernal developed their ''own'' Charm set that ''generally'' fell within their master's purview, there's a possibility they could change their master as well. *** And now the [[FaustianRebellion Heresy]] Charm set has shown up. One can only imagine the look on [[ManipulativeBastard the Ebon Dragon's]] face when he realizes the pawns of his master plan have discovered a way to sever all ties to the fetters of Hell. **** And then there is the Devil-Tiger option. Shattering all the control methods, feeble as they are, and transending into what is essentially a Primordial Mark 2 while retaining the power of the Exaltation. The Ebon Dragon's reaction when he realizes he made himself OBSOLETE will be priceless.
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* In ''{{Exalted}}'', it's ''{{Exalted}}'', ** It's always possible for an Abyssal or Infernal Exalted to defy the will of their [[OmnicidalManiac respective]] [[TheLegionsOfHell masters]] and do the right thing. Unfortunately, this tends to bite them in the ass -- Abyssals gain Resonance for adopting mortal trappings, and must bleed it off by adopting the trappings of death (e.g. sleeping in crypts, performing funerary rites) lest it explode and kill everyone close to them, and Infernals build Torment that can only be bled off by [[CardCarryingVillain doing villainous things such as monologuing, sticking people in death traps, etc]]. etc]]. ** Actually, the Infernal curse [[CursedWithAwesome isn't that bad]], due to...''[[NobleDemon creative]]''...applications of Acts of Villainy. *** Don't go as far as PokeThePoodle, though. The Yozis can get wise to that. ** And a little extra note on the Infernals -- their Their [[FunctionalMagic Charms]] are not an inherent function of their Exaltation, but rather derive directly from their Yozi masters. This means that the Infernals have direct influence from their masters... but the relationship goes both ways, and if an Infernal developed their ''own'' Charm set that ''generally'' fell within their master's purview, there's a possibility they could change their master as well. *** And now the ** The [[FaustianRebellion Heresy]] Charm set has shown up. One can only imagine the look on [[ManipulativeBastard the Ebon Dragon's]] face when he realizes the pawns of his master plan have discovered a way to sever all ties to the fetters of Hell. **** And then there **There is the Devil-Tiger option. Shattering all the control methods, feeble as they are, and transending into what is essentially a Primordial Mark 2 while retaining the power of the Exaltation. The Ebon Dragon's reaction when he realizes he made himself OBSOLETE will be priceless.

* Arguably [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/CastlevaniaChroniclesOfSorrow Soma Cruz]]]] from the ''Franchise/{{Castlevania}}'' series. ** This claim depends on your definition of Christ. The dark lord is the being opposed to God. Alucard is the dark lord's son. [[spoiler:Soma]] is the dark lord reborn as a human. Hmm... ** This is a bit of an interesting one, because while [[spoiler:Soma]] (not sure why spoiler tags are necessary, it's already a LateArrivalSpoiler) is the reincarnation of Dracula, he's not necessarily the Dark Lord. If anything he's not really ''interested'' in the job, he just wants to live a normal life, and seems to treat the insistence of the forces of evil (to try and either make him the Dark Lord or kill him so someone else can take that role) with exasperated annoyance... Except when [[spoiler:Mina Habuka]] is involved. Dear ''God'', heaven help you if you so much as touch her. And, to top it all off, he's even got insurance, so to speak - he got the most recent Belmont [[ThePromise to promise to kill him if things go south and he changes his mind for whatever reason]], and both Sorrow games pretty much imply or outright confirm that said Belmont gets the job done (though [[BadEnding those endings]] aren't canon anyhow). At this point, the forces of evil are better off trying to find another candidate, as per Celia's original plan, which didn't really end well for her or her "candidates". ** Alucard, the half-human son of Dracula, defends the world against his father's attempts to destroy it because of his mother's last words. ** And now, as of ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow2'', [[spoiler: Count Dracula himself]].

* Emerl from ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'' is a Gizoid, a robot designed to mimic any combat technique he sees, and is able to do so with terrifying efficiency (he quickly outclasses the rest of the cast). He was considered to be the Ultimate Lifeform before Shadow [[spoiler: and was the strongest of his Gizoid brethren according to VideoGame/SonicChronicles.]][[spoiler:Upon obtaining all seven Chaos Emeralds he's supposed to pretty much annihilate civilization.]] He was also [[UpbringingMakesTheHero raised by the good guys]] and slowly mimics bits of each of their personalities as well -- the result is a lovable NiceGuy who calls Amy "Mom", helps out around Tails's lab, ribs Knuckles for being dense, and is fiercely protective of his friends, most notably Cream.
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* Emerl from ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'' is a Gizoid, a robot designed to mimic any combat technique he sees, and is able to do so with terrifying efficiency (he quickly outclasses the rest of the cast). He was considered to be the Ultimate Lifeform before Shadow [[spoiler: and was the strongest of his Gizoid brethren according to VideoGame/SonicChronicles.]][[spoiler:Upon obtaining all seven Chaos Emeralds he's supposed to pretty much annihilate civilization.]] He was also [[UpbringingMakesTheHero raised by the good guys]] and slowly mimics bits of each of their personalities as well -- the result is a lovable NiceGuy who calls Amy "Mom", helps out around Tails's lab, ribs Knuckles for being dense, and is fiercely protective of his friends, most notably Cream.
27th Oct '15 11:48:51 AM ChaoticNovelist
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word cruft and sinkholes. Also, speculation.
But he just doesn't ''feel'' like it. [[IHateYouVampireDad Maybe the relationship between him and Dad is strained.]] Maybe he was [[RaisedByNatives raised by humans]] and [[UpbringingMakesTheHero shown the ways of love and justice.]] Perhaps there are just more interesting things to do? Of course, the sheer ''{{irony}}'' of [[RebelliousRebel the ultimate rebel's offspring rebelling against him]] is delicious. Or maybe, they'd simply reply the way Hellboy would when someone tells him YouCantFightFate: "Says who?"
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But he just doesn't ''feel'' like it. [[IHateYouVampireDad Maybe the relationship between him and Dad is strained.]] Maybe he was [[RaisedByNatives raised by humans]] and [[UpbringingMakesTheHero shown the ways of love and justice.]] Perhaps there are just more interesting things to do? Of course, the The sheer ''{{irony}}'' of [[RebelliousRebel the ultimate rebel's offspring rebelling against him]] is delicious. Or maybe, they'd simply reply the way Hellboy would when someone tells him YouCantFightFate: "Says who?"

Of course, the Forces of Evil[[TradeSnark ™]] often [[VillainousDemotivator make it really difficult for themselves;]] by demanding that their champion [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten kill their lover, their friends, and anyone who is nice to them]]. Seriously, the Anti Antichrist didn't want to join their club in the first place; how is this supposed to convince them? What did they [[WhatWereYouThinking think]] the response was going to be? Of course, they don't consider it at all. It's part of the [[AndYourLittleDogToo rules]], dagnabit. If they actually promised and delivered BetterLivingThroughEvil, they might have had more success. BewareTheNiceOnes and the VillainWithGoodPublicity, though. Remember, even though they've turned against their destiny, it's InTheBlood. And it's especially bad if the morons around them know about their "destiny" and decide to [[BullyingADragon Bully A Dragon]]. That rarely ends well. While an Anti Anti Christ may side against Team Evil, they are not required to actually be good or nice. And even if they are nice, members of Team Good (often a KnightTemplar) may see their turn as inevitable and seek to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam end them before they can turn]]. They may also be accused of playing on Team Good's sympathies and are often the first people to be looked at when something goes wrong... [[NiceJobBreakingItHero which may in and of itself]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil cause them]] [[FaceHeelTurn to turn evil]].
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Of course, the The Forces of Evil[[TradeSnark ™]] often [[VillainousDemotivator make it really difficult for themselves;]] by demanding that their champion [[IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten kill their lover, their friends, and anyone who is nice to them]]. Seriously, the The Anti Antichrist didn't want to join their club in the first place; how is this supposed to convince them? What did they [[WhatWereYouThinking think]] the response was going to be? Of course, they They don't consider it at all. It's part of the [[AndYourLittleDogToo rules]], dagnabit. If they actually promised and delivered BetterLivingThroughEvil, they might have had more success. BewareTheNiceOnes and the VillainWithGoodPublicity, though. Remember, even VillainWithGoodPublicity. Even though they've turned against their destiny, it's InTheBlood. And it's It's especially bad if the morons around them know about their "destiny" and decide to [[BullyingADragon Bully A Dragon]]. That rarely ends well. Dragon]]. While an Anti Anti Christ may side against Team Evil, they are not required to actually be good or nice. And even Even if they are nice, members of Team Good (often a KnightTemplar) may see their turn as inevitable and seek to [[HeelFaceDoorSlam end them before they can turn]]. They may also be accused of playing on Team Good's sympathies and are often the first people to be looked at when something goes wrong... [[NiceJobBreakingItHero [[ThenLetMeBeEvil which may in and of itself]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil itself cause them]] [[FaceHeelTurn them to turn evil]].

Not to be confused with SatanIsGood, which is distinguished by having the apparent bringer of evil be a covert force for good, whereas Anti Antichrists generally represent ''actual'' forces of evil, albeit not very well.
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Not to be confused with SatanIsGood, which is distinguished by having the apparent bringer of evil be a covert force for good, whereas Anti Antichrists generally represent ''actual'' forces of evil, albeit not very well.evil.

* [[BadassAdorable Rin]] from ''Manga/BlueExorcist'': He only learns his true parentage after Satan himself comes to claim him, killing the exorcist who was his [[BadassPreacher foster-father]] – a priest and member of the local ChurchMilitant – in the process. Determined to never be in that position again, Rin vows to become an exorcist himself. Naturally he can't tell anyone at the [[WizardingSchool exorcist academy]] about this, least of all his classmates (at least one of whom has devoted himself to killing Satan). Of course this gets out; but after some angst, his friends prove to be TrueCompanions and it looks like he'll stay on the side of good. Unless the Vatican catches the IdiotBall at some point...which, to be honest, [[FantasticRacism isn't that improbable]] since he's had two close calls already and [[spoiler: some of his own "allies" have caused him grief, including his ''own brother'']].
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* [[BadassAdorable Rin]] from ''Manga/BlueExorcist'': He only learns his true parentage after Satan himself comes to claim him, killing the exorcist who was his [[BadassPreacher foster-father]] – a priest and member of the local ChurchMilitant – in the process. Determined to never be in that position again, Rin vows to become an exorcist himself. Naturally he can't tell anyone at the [[WizardingSchool exorcist academy]] about this, least of all his classmates (at least one of whom has devoted himself to killing Satan). Of course Eventually, this gets out; out, but after some angst, his friends prove to be TrueCompanions and it looks like he'll stay on the side of good. Unless the Vatican catches the IdiotBall at some point...which, to be honest, [[FantasticRacism isn't that improbable]] since he's had two close calls already and [[spoiler: some of his own "allies" have caused him grief, including his ''own brother'']].good.

* Loki, bringer of Ragnarok in Myth/NorseMythology, ''doesn't want to'' in ''MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok''. Interesting in that it isn't the "Devil" character who wants/expects him to do it, but the God, Odin. The massive psychological contortions of the other gods of Asgard as they argue simultaneously that the only way to stop Ragnarok is to kill Loki...but that YouCantFightFate in that he can't choose not to start it. He chooses not to regardless, which ''drives them nuts''. ** It's funnier if you know some Norse mythology, which relies on the idea that Ragnarok's not only completely predestined, but that all the gods (and all but two humans) are plainly going to die, often in very specific ways and with no way at all to avoid it. * To a degree, Greed in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. His father (actually called Father) is an EldritchAbomination / sort of [[GodIsEvil evil god]], and Greed has fallen out with the [[WellDoneSonGuy old man]]. Because he is "greedy", Greed isn't interested in his father's [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt plans]], and because of his massive ego, wants to accumulate a large number of followers, unlike Father, who views humans as insects and wants to wipe them out. For Bonus points, Greed even gets a CrucifiedHeroShot.
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* ''MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok'': Loki, bringer of Ragnarok in Myth/NorseMythology, ''doesn't want to'' in ''MythicalDetectiveLokiRagnarok''.to''. Interesting in that it isn't the "Devil" character who wants/expects him to do it, but the God, Odin. The massive psychological contortions of the other gods of Asgard as they argue simultaneously that the only way to stop Ragnarok is to kill Loki...but that YouCantFightFate in that he can't choose not to start it. He chooses not to regardless, which ''drives them nuts''. ** It's funnier if you know some Norse mythology, which relies on the idea that Ragnarok's not only completely predestined, but that all the gods (and all but two humans) are plainly going to die, often in very specific ways and with no way at all to avoid it. * To a degree, Greed in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist''. His father (actually called Father) is an EldritchAbomination / sort of [[GodIsEvil evil god]], and Greed has fallen out with the [[WellDoneSonGuy old man]]. Because he is "greedy", Greed isn't interested in his father's [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt plans]], and because of his massive ego, wants to accumulate a large number of followers, unlike Father, who views humans as insects and wants to wipe them out. For Bonus points, Greed even gets a CrucifiedHeroShot.
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* Piccolo Junior from ''DragonBall'' was meant to carry on his father's legacy as Great Demon King, and take over the world. He's more interested in beating Goku in a fight, especially after their first encounter, going from major villain to {{jerkass}} {{antihero}}, and after spending one year raising Gohan, a rather likable nice guy. Interestingly, the French dub (and by extension all other dubs based on it) calls him The Younger Satan (his father was Satan the Heartless).
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* Piccolo Junior from ''DragonBall'' ''Manga/DragonBall'' was meant to carry on his father's legacy as Great Demon King, and take over the world. He's more interested in beating Goku in a fight, especially after their first encounter, going from major villain to {{jerkass}} {{antihero}}, and after spending one year raising Gohan, a rather likable nice guy. Interestingly, the French dub (and by extension all other dubs based on it) calls him The Younger Satan (his father was Satan the Heartless).

* Demon lord [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Exoda C. Claw]] from ShinaDark is supposed to wage war on the entire world when he wakes up... Turns out fishing and goofing about are a ''lot'' higher on his list of priorities.
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* Demon lord [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Exoda C. Claw]] from ShinaDark ''Manga/ShinaDark'' is supposed to wage war on the entire world when he wakes up... Turns out fishing and goofing about are a ''lot'' higher on his list of priorities.
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