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24th Mar '17 3:48:12 PM TheJayman49
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* Creator/RalphBakshi made adult cartoons (with one of his films, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat'', being pictured above) as an attempt to prove that animation wasn't just for kids, but his films still ended up being poorly received because of this (though a majority of them have been VindicatedByHistory). Others, such as ''WesternAnimation/CoolWorld'', became the victims of ExecutiveMeddling thanks to this trope.

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* Creator/RalphBakshi made adult cartoons (with one of his films, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat'', being pictured above) as an attempt to prove that animation wasn't just for kids, but his films still ended up being poorly received because of this (though a majority of them have been VindicatedByHistory). Others, such as ''WesternAnimation/CoolWorld'', ''Film/CoolWorld'', became the victims of ExecutiveMeddling thanks to this trope.
24th Mar '17 3:48:01 PM TheJayman49
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* Creator/RalphBakshi made adult cartoons (with one of his films, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat'', being pictured above) as an attempt to prove that animation wasn't just for kids, but his films still ended up being poorly received because of this. Others, such as ''Film/CoolWorld'', became the victims of ExecutiveMeddling.

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* Creator/RalphBakshi made adult cartoons (with one of his films, ''WesternAnimation/FritzTheCat'', being pictured above) as an attempt to prove that animation wasn't just for kids, but his films still ended up being poorly received because of this. this (though a majority of them have been VindicatedByHistory). Others, such as ''Film/CoolWorld'', ''WesternAnimation/CoolWorld'', became the victims of ExecutiveMeddling.ExecutiveMeddling thanks to this trope.
23rd Mar '17 8:23:09 AM Mineboot45
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* Foreword: When dealing with video games, it should be noted that here we are dealing with an aversion and perhaps even with an inversion. Once consoles that were able to feature live-action scenes such as the Philips CD-i and the 3DO came out with commercials saying that the consoles could program Live-Action, many were at first calling this "The future of gaming", even though the consoles they were on had a high price and few bought them. While the technology was new and exciting at first, it quickly delved into SeinfeldIsUnfunny territory due to the fact that their gameplay was usually very limited, and that the voice acting was horrible. This, coupled with the huge budget needed to make such a game (''Ground Zero Texas'', a Live-Action game on the Sega CD, cost 2 million dollars to make) and poor reviews (the aforementioned ''Ground Zero Texas'' got a score of 20% on Sega16), led quickly to the death of the genre. Nowadays, admitting to wanting live-action in a video game is like saying that you want your game to be horrible. This still does not prevent the medium from having its own age ghettoes, as seen below.

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* Foreword: When dealing with video games, it should be noted that here we are dealing with an aversion and perhaps even with an inversion. Once consoles that were able to feature live-action scenes such as the Philips CD-i and the 3DO came out with commercials saying that the consoles could program Live-Action, many were at first calling this "The future of gaming", even though the consoles they were on had a high price and few bought them. While the technology was new and exciting at first, it quickly delved into SeinfeldIsUnfunny territory due to the fact that their gameplay was usually very limited, and that the voice acting was horrible. This, coupled with the huge budget needed to make such a game (''Ground Zero Texas'', a Live-Action game on the Sega CD, cost 2 million dollars to make) and poor reviews (the aforementioned ''Ground Zero Texas'' got a score of 20% on Sega16), [=Sega16=]), led quickly to the death of the genre. Nowadays, admitting to wanting live-action in a video game is like saying that you want your game to be horrible. This still does not prevent the medium from having its own age ghettoes, as seen below.



** Now that [[UsefulNotes/DigitalDistribution]] has come online, it has become even harder to verify consumers' ages; the biggest hurdle they'd probably have to pass is a screen that says "Enter birth date here", which can be easily falsified. This has been mitigated by console and distribution software creators adding parental control options for online game purchases and access, but, again, many parents ignore these.

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** Now that [[UsefulNotes/DigitalDistribution]] UsefulNotes/DigitalDistribution has come online, it has become even harder to verify consumers' ages; the biggest hurdle they'd probably have to pass is a screen that says "Enter birth date here", which can be easily falsified. This has been mitigated by console and distribution software creators adding parental control options for online game purchases and access, but, again, many parents ignore these.
9th Mar '17 10:07:01 PM lalalei2001
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* On Amazon.com, if you do a search for "manga" and look specifically under "Children's Books", you'll find the following manga: ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'', ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'', ''LightNovel/VampireHunterD'', ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', ''Manga/RosarioToVampire'', ''Manga/DeathNote'', ''LightNovel/TrinityBlood'', ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', ''Manga/PetShopOfHorrors'', ''Manga/DGrayMan'', ''Manga/{{Nana}}'', ''Manga/InuYasha'', ''Franchise/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', ''Manga/FutureDiary'', ''Manga/{{Monster}}'', ''Manga/{{Bastard}}'' (obviously from the title, not for kids), ''Manga/{{Karin}}'', ''Manga/HanaYoriDango'', ''Manga/HunterXHunter'', ''Manga/GreatTeacherOnizuka'', ''Manga/ThoseWhoHuntElves'', ''Manga/KingOfHell'' (again, read the title at least!), ''Manga/VideoGirlAi'' and several unknown yaoi titles. Yikes. You'd think one of the biggest online retailers would be better then this...

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* On Amazon.com, if you do a search for "manga" and look specifically under "Children's Books", you'll find the following manga: ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'', ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'', ''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub'', ''LightNovel/VampireHunterD'', ''Manga/RurouniKenshin'', ''Manga/RosarioToVampire'', ''Manga/DeathNote'', ''LightNovel/TrinityBlood'', ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'', ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'', ''Manga/PetShopOfHorrors'', ''Manga/DGrayMan'', ''Manga/{{Nana}}'', ''Manga/InuYasha'', ''Franchise/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', ''Manga/FutureDiary'', ''Manga/{{Monster}}'', ''Manga/{{Bastard}}'' (obviously from the title, not for kids), ''Manga/{{Karin}}'', ''Manga/HanaYoriDango'', ''Manga/BoysOverFlowers'', ''Manga/HunterXHunter'', ''Manga/GreatTeacherOnizuka'', ''Manga/ThoseWhoHuntElves'', ''Manga/KingOfHell'' (again, read the title at least!), ''Manga/VideoGirlAi'' and several unknown yaoi titles. Yikes. You'd think one of the biggest online retailers would be better then this...
9th Mar '17 8:20:00 PM sayaleviathan
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** When ''Anime/YourName'' failed to get a nomination while ''The Red Turtle'' which co-produced by Creator/StudioGhibli got one for the Oscars 2017, this made many anime fans wondering if the voters have a bias on ''Studio Ghibli''. But the real reason is that Fumination, who is in charge of the North American distribution of ''Your Name'', failed to give the movie a wide release in the USd only showed the film in one week in Los Angeles in order for it to be qualified in the nomination shortlist. The film did won an award for Best Animated Feature by the Los Angeles Film Critics Circle and got two Annie Awards nominations but without a wide release, the Academy voters are unable to see the film. Justin Sevakis shed some light on [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2017-01-27/.111446 this matter]].

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** When ''Anime/YourName'' failed to get a nomination while ''The Red Turtle'' which co-produced by Creator/StudioGhibli got one for the Oscars 2017, this made many anime fans wondering if the voters have a bias on ''Studio Ghibli''. But the real reason is that Fumination, who is in charge of the North American distribution of ''Your Name'', failed to give the movie a wide release in the USd US and only showed the film it in one week in Los Angeles in order for it to be qualified in the nomination shortlist. The film did won an award for Best Animated Feature by the Los Angeles Film Critics Circle and got two Annie Awards nominations but without a wide release, the Academy voters are unable to see the film. Justin Sevakis shed some light on [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2017-01-27/.111446 this matter]].
9th Mar '17 8:18:35 PM sayaleviathan
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** When ''Anime/YourName'' failed to get a nomination while ''The Red Turtle'' which co-produced by Creator/StudioGhibli got one for the Oscars 2017, this made many anime fans wondering if the voters have a bias on ''Studio Ghibli''. But the real reason is that Fumination, who is in charge of the North American distribution of ''Your Name'', failed to give the movie a wide release in the USd only showed the film in one week in Los Angeles in order for it to be qualified in the nomination shortlist. The film did won an award for Best Animated Feature by the Los Angeles Film Critics Circle and got two Annie Awards nominations but without a wide release, the Academy voters are unable to see the film. Justin Sevakis shed some light on [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/answerman/2017-01-27/.111446 this matter]].
9th Mar '17 12:32:32 PM Sonofstranger
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** Now that [[UsefulNotes/DigitalDistribution]] has come online, it has become even harder to verify consumers' ages; the biggest hurdle they'd probably have to pass is a screen that says "Enter birth date here", which can be easily falsified. This has been mitigated by console and distribution software creators adding parental control options for online game purchases and access, but, again, many parents ignore these.
5th Mar '17 7:58:35 PM ElSquibbonator
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* This trope is actually responsible for the popularity of anime in the West. Most Western animation companies produce TV shows and movies aimed at kids. Despite Creator/{{Pixar}}'s MultipleDemographicAppeal, their movies are still aimed primarily at children and families. The "adult" shows tend to be [[AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark rather juvenile]] as well. People who are into animation and want animated shows with the depth and seriousness of quality live action series and movies often have no other choice but to watch anime, particularly {{Seinen}} anime.

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* This trope is actually partly responsible for the popularity of anime in the West. Most Western animation companies produce TV shows and movies aimed at kids. Despite Creator/{{Pixar}}'s MultipleDemographicAppeal, their movies are still aimed primarily at children and families. The "adult" shows tend to be [[AllAdultAnimationIsSouthPark rather juvenile]] as well. People who are into animation and want animated shows with the depth and seriousness of quality live action series and movies often have no other choice but to watch anime, particularly {{Seinen}} anime.
5th Mar '17 7:55:34 PM ElSquibbonator
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* The Animation Age Ghetto is surprisingly strong in Japan's next door neighbor South Korea. A horrifying example of this was that a Korean dub of ''[[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Hellsing Ultimate]]'' was being sold in a Seoul bookstore... in the same section and shelf as ''Animation/PororoTheLittlePenguin'' and ''Anime/{{Doraemon}}.'' Apparently, store owners just don't care if an oblivious Korean family confuses a mature anime for a children's cartoon...
** And that's not even getting to the treatment of ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'', which was seen by some MoralGuardians as a nationalist propaganda piece. This was also partly the reason why the anime abandoned its original TV broadcast plans for web-streaming.

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* The Animation Age Ghetto is surprisingly strong in Japan's next door neighbor South Korea. A horrifying example of this was that a Korean dub of ''[[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Hellsing Ultimate]]'' was being sold in a Seoul bookstore... in the same section and shelf as ''Animation/PororoTheLittlePenguin'' and ''Anime/{{Doraemon}}.'' Apparently, store owners just don't care if an oblivious Korean family confuses a mature anime for a children's cartoon...
cartoon. . .
** And that's not even getting to the treatment of ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'', which was seen by some MoralGuardians as a nationalist propaganda piece. piece, given the [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII historical problems]] between Japan and Korea. This was also partly the reason why the anime abandoned its original TV broadcast plans for web-streaming.web-streaming.
** Adult animation does exist in South Korea, however. Probably the best-known example is Animation/TheKingOfPigs, which was released in 2011 to critical acclaim worldwide. A gritty, tragic story that deals with institutionalized bullying and suicide, it is definitely not for kids.
4th Mar '17 8:42:57 PM ElSquibbonator
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* No discussion of the effects of the Animation Age Ghetto today would be complete without a mention of ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo''. Not only does the show itself fall into the ghetto (it's actually rated TV-PG, despite being [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids popular with young children]]) but one suspects that the ''writers'' do as well. . . especially after the infamous episode ''The Return Of Slade''. Long story short, the episode (using a clown as a metaphor) tries to convince fans of [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans the original series]] that cartoons are [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop only meant for children]], and adults who want to enjoy them are just stuck in the past. There have actually been numerous episodes where the writers seemingly go out of their way to express such ideas, obviously believing no one older than six watches animation.
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