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21st Nov '17 10:59:08 AM Pichu-kun
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* Shouko from ''Manga/KoeNoKatachi'' seems to [[EasilyForgiven hold no ill contempt]] to Shouya for severely bullying her in elementary due to being deaf. In fact she doesn't seem quite sad about anything despite having an [[AbusiveParents emotionally distant and abusive mother]], or the fact her disability has [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer caused her to be ostracized]]. [[spoiler:It's later deconstructed when it's shown Shouko is [[StepfordSmiler covering up her sadness]]. She became [[DrivenToSuicide suicidal]] due to the bullying and the FestivalEpisode ends with her trying to jump off a balcony, despite seeming fine before. Shouya saves her but gets injured in the process. In the chapters afterwards Shouko lowers her guard and her true pain becomes noticeable]].
* None of the girls in ''Anime/YukiYunaIsAHero'' (besides [[spoiler:Togo]]) seem too fazed by TheReveal that [[spoiler:they're ChildSoldier's forced to slowly [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice]] themselves to the WorldTree]]. Fuu had a breakdown [[spoiler:due to her her sister's wants of being a singer being [[TragicDream impossible]] due to her recent muteness]]. Howeverm [[spoiler:the concept of them eventually becoming paralyzed and heavily disabled due to be a MagicalGirlWarrior]] doesn't seem to bug them much.

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* Shouko from ''Manga/KoeNoKatachi'' ''Manga/ASilentVoice'' seems to [[EasilyForgiven hold no ill contempt]] to Shouya for severely bullying her in elementary due to being deaf. In fact she doesn't seem quite sad about anything despite having an [[AbusiveParents emotionally distant and abusive mother]], or the fact her disability has [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer caused her to be ostracized]]. [[spoiler:It's later deconstructed when it's shown Shouko is [[StepfordSmiler covering up her sadness]]. She became [[DrivenToSuicide suicidal]] due to the bullying and the FestivalEpisode ends with her trying to jump off a balcony, despite seeming fine before. Shouya saves her but gets injured in the process. In the chapters afterwards Shouko lowers her guard and her true pain becomes noticeable]].
* None of the girls in ''Anime/YukiYunaIsAHero'' (besides [[spoiler:Togo]]) seem too fazed by TheReveal that [[spoiler:they're ChildSoldier's ChildSoldiers forced to slowly [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice]] themselves to the WorldTree]]. Fuu had a breakdown [[spoiler:due to her her sister's wants of being a singer being [[TragicDream impossible]] due to her recent muteness]]. Howeverm [[spoiler:the concept of them eventually becoming paralyzed and heavily disabled due to be a MagicalGirlWarrior]] doesn't seem to bug them much.



* In Disney's Sleeping Beauty, Aurora has a meltdown when she's told she can't see a boy (she literally just met outside of infancy) again. On the other hand, she doesn't give two spits that her aunts are fairies hired to protect her, she's now required to go live as a princess after years of freedom as a peasant, and her parents are actually alive and well. If the happy dance at the end is any indication, Phillip is all that matters at all.

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* In Disney's Sleeping Beauty, ''Disney/SleepingBeauty'', Aurora has a meltdown when she's told she can't see a boy (she literally just met outside of infancy) again. On the other hand, she doesn't give two spits that her aunts are fairies hired to protect her, she's now required to go live as a princess after years of freedom as a peasant, and her parents are actually alive and well. If the happy dance at the end is any indication, Phillip is all that matters at all.



* Rapunzel from ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' seems pretty chipper despite being locked up in a tower her entire life with only her emotionally abusive mother as her human friend. It gets more noticeable later into the film after she finds out [[spoiler:her mother kidnapped her as an infant, never loved her, has been lying to her her entire life, and only kept her around for her magical powers. She also saw said mother suffer a DisneyVillainDeath]]. Despite all this she still seems to be a PluckyGirl and never bemoans her childhood. Rapunzel lacking any trauma due to Gothel was a developmental change as an [[WhatCouldHaveBeen earlier]], darker script had her much more reluctant to leave her tower and more nervous around people.
** Granted, though, the [[WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries TV spin-off]] establishes that Rapunzel ''does'' have occasional nightmares about Gothel, though she doesn't seem to let it bother her too badly.

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* Rapunzel from ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'' seems pretty chipper despite being locked up in a tower her entire life with only her emotionally abusive mother as her human friend. It gets more noticeable later into the film after she finds out [[spoiler:her mother kidnapped her as an infant, never loved her, has been lying to her her entire life, and only kept her around for her magical powers. She also saw said mother suffer a DisneyVillainDeath]]. Despite all this she still seems to be a PluckyGirl and never bemoans her childhood. Rapunzel lacking any trauma due to Gothel was a developmental change as an [[WhatCouldHaveBeen earlier]], darker script had her much more reluctant to leave her tower and more nervous around people.
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people. Granted, though, the [[WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries TV spin-off]] establishes that Rapunzel ''does'' have occasional nightmares about Gothel, though she doesn't seem to let it bother her too badly.
14th Nov '17 8:08:20 PM epoxy
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** John. Just, John. He spends the entirety of Sburb, right up until his father's death, being just barely on the edge of being reunited with him and being able to forgive himself for acting terribly for hours on end. It all ends with him being stabbed to death over the corpse of his dead father. And he does it all with a smile on his face to hide his true pain.

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** John. Just, John. He spends the entirety of Sburb, right up until [[TheStoic Dave]] gets special credit for not batting an eye when discovering [[spoiler: his father's death, being just barely on the edge of being reunited with him [[DiscoveringYourOwnDeadBody own murdered corpse]]]]. He shoves it out he window fearing "Jade might see it and being able to forgive himself for acting terribly for hours on end. It all ends with him being stabbed to death over the corpse of his dead father. And freak out." Afterward he does it all with a smile on his face to hide his true pain.[[ContemplatingYourHands Contemplates His Hands]], but doesn't otherwise seem bothered.
14th Nov '17 12:50:52 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Robin Hood in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' gives his BBC counterpart some competition. He's introduced as a widower who finds love again with former evil queen Regina. When Marian comes back from the dead and reveals to him that Regina was the one who killed her, [[InsaneForgiveness he doesn't give a damn]] and is mostly upset to be separated from his true love. [[spoiler:A few months later, it turns out that Marian is actually Regina's sister Zelina in disguise who repeatedly raped him by fraud. Once again, he's just upset with her being pregnant and is ''immediatly'' ready to move on with Regina.]]

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* Robin Hood in ''Series/OnceUponATime'' gives his BBC counterpart some competition. He's introduced as a widower who finds love again with former evil queen Regina. When Marian comes back from the dead and reveals to him that Regina was the one who killed her, [[InsaneForgiveness [[EasilyForgiven he doesn't give a damn]] and is mostly upset to be separated from his true love. [[spoiler:A few months later, it turns out that Marian is actually Regina's sister Zelina in disguise who repeatedly raped him by fraud. Once again, he's just upset with her being pregnant and is ''immediatly'' ready to move on with Regina.]]
9th Nov '17 11:08:41 AM Qamikace
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* Essentially the premise behind ''Bright and Cheery Amnesia'' by Oku Tamamusi. A girl gets into an accident and loses her memories of the past three years, which includes meeting and getting to know her current girlfriend. The girlfriend herself is initially worried that she might be rejected, considering that having a female lover in the first place might be a huge surprise. Luckily for everyone involved, the amnesiac girl [[LoveAtFirstSight falls in love immediately after meeting her again]]. She spends the rest of the manga completely unfazed by the fact that she forgot three years of her life, instead being happy that she gets to experience some things for the first time again.
31st Oct '17 7:08:54 PM PaulA
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* Enforced in-universe in ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid: Double Down''. While working on their NoBudget indie horror film ''Night of the Night Crawlers'', Rowley is so freaked out that Greg has to shoehorn in a joke to keep him from running away. This joke turns out to be an unnamed man reacting to his wife's horrifying death by saying "Well, I guess this means I'm single!" and [[AsideGlance winking at the camera]].

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* Enforced in-universe in ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid: Double Down''.''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKidDoubleDown''. While working on their NoBudget indie horror film ''Night of the Night Crawlers'', Rowley is so freaked out that Greg has to shoehorn in a joke to keep him from running away. This joke turns out to be an unnamed man reacting to his wife's horrifying death by saying "Well, I guess this means I'm single!" and [[AsideGlance winking at the camera]].
22nd Oct '17 12:26:59 PM nombretomado
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*** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E26S4E1TheBestOfBothWorlds The Best of Both Worlds]]" makes it seem as if Picard is just going to shrug off being assimilated and turned into Locutus, despite looking a little haunted at the final shot. Nope, the very next episode, "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E2Family Family]]" (FanNickName: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part III") has Picard collapsing in tears about how the Borg essentially ''raped'' him and forced him to experience every moment. You might think it's {{Catharsis}} in that episode, but ''nope''. Fast forward to ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'', and we find Jean-Luc has not gotten over it ''at all'', and it's hinted he has nightmares about it ''all the time''.

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*** "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E26S4E1TheBestOfBothWorlds The Best of Both Worlds]]" makes it seem as if Picard is just going to shrug off being assimilated and turned into Locutus, despite looking a little haunted at the final shot. Nope, the very next episode, "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E2Family Family]]" (FanNickName: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part III") has Picard collapsing in tears about how the Borg essentially ''raped'' him and forced him to experience every moment. You might think it's {{Catharsis}} CatharsisFactor in that episode, but ''nope''. Fast forward to ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'', and we find Jean-Luc has not gotten over it ''at all'', and it's hinted he has nightmares about it ''all the time''.
20th Oct '17 8:52:12 PM PetroleumJerry
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** Clara Oswald's tenure is, if anything, a {{deconstruction}} of the whole trope, not helped by her tendency to act as a strong-willed, DontYouDarePityMe type of person, or the fact that her friendship with the Doctor is frequently mired in half-truths and misunderstandings (especially with the colder, more detached and more alien Twelfth Doctor). Whenever she's overcome by fear, grief, or anger, she tends to explode, averting the trope in infrequent but all the more heartbreaking outbursts. By her third series, she's forever lost the man she grew to love and has visibly changed from [[FunPersonified a cheerful and cheeky lady]] into [[BrokenBird a more worldweary and reckless figure]]. Even though the Doctor is trying to be a caring friend, he realises she's become numbed to emotional trauma after plenty of tragedies and has started bordering on a {{death seeker}}. This causes him to ''explicitly worry'' in front of her, despite himself having gone through many awful and infuriating things during his entire lifetime and needing her as his LivingEmotionalCrutch, while she keeps denying that her grief is making her increasingly depressed and jaded towards everything but her adrenaline junkie desires. And ''then'' she occasionally breaks down into a sobbing mess, regardless, proving that she's still traumatised by the deaths of her loved ones. In the end, the trope is reconstructed: When she [[spoiler: condemns herself to death]] in "Face the Raven", she accepts this as the bitter fruit of her recklessness and faces it with courage, telling the Doctor that both of them must be brave now. Unfortunately, as described above he has a SanitySlippage, [[spoiler: as she learns when he pulls her out of time. In the end, helping him move on leaves her functionally immortal with her own TARDIS and companion, able to have near-infinite adventures -- so long as she eventually returns to her death -- as a sadder, wiser, more cautious woman]].

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** Clara Oswald's tenure is, if anything, a {{deconstruction}} of the whole trope, not helped by her tendency to act as a strong-willed, DontYouDarePityMe type of person, or the fact that her friendship with the Doctor is frequently mired in misunderstandings, half-truths and misunderstandings flat-out lies (especially with the colder, more detached and more alien Twelfth Doctor). Whenever she's overcome by fear, grief, or anger, she tends to explode, averting the trope in infrequent but all the more heartbreaking outbursts. By her third series, she's forever lost the man she grew to love and has visibly changed from [[FunPersonified a cheerful and cheeky lady]] into [[BrokenBird a more worldweary and reckless figure]]. Even though the Doctor is trying to be a caring friend, he realises she's become numbed to emotional trauma after plenty of tragedies and has started bordering on a {{death seeker}}. This causes him to ''explicitly worry'' in front of her, despite himself having gone through many awful and infuriating things during his entire lifetime and needing her as his LivingEmotionalCrutch, while she keeps denying that her grief is making her increasingly depressed and jaded towards everything but her adrenaline junkie desires. And ''then'' she occasionally breaks down into a sobbing mess, regardless, proving that she's still traumatised by the deaths of her loved ones. In the end, the trope is reconstructed: When she [[spoiler: condemns herself to death]] in "Face the Raven", she accepts this as the bitter fruit of her recklessness and faces it with courage, telling the Doctor that both of them must be brave now. Unfortunately, as described above he has a SanitySlippage, [[spoiler: as she learns when he pulls her out of time. In the end, helping him move on leaves her functionally immortal with her own TARDIS and companion, able to have near-infinite adventures -- so long as she eventually returns to her death -- as a sadder, wiser, more cautious woman]].
2nd Oct '17 4:02:45 AM MathsAngelicVersion
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* Enforced in-universe in ''Literature/DiaryOfAWimpyKid: Double Down''. While working on their NoBudget indie horror film ''Night of the Night Crawlers'', Rowley is so freaked out that Greg has to shoehorn in a joke to keep him from running away. This joke turns out to be an unnamed man reacting to his wife's horrifying death by saying "Well, I guess this means I'm single!" and [[AsideGlance winking at the camera]].
6th Sep '17 5:52:56 AM GnomeTitan
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** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' tends to have this as a result of the ResetButton. In a typical episode, [[TheCaptain Picard]] experiences the planet he grew up on destroyed and everyone he loved killed via implanted memories. There's a brief shot at the end when he looks sad, but then it's like it never happened. Ronald Moore said that the episode was sort of an accident; they were just concerned with making a good hour long story (and it is considered one of the best of the series) and didn't realize until it aired just how traumatized Picard should have been afterwards. They resolved to make a few {{continuity nod}}s and then just continue.
*** Being turned into Locutus in "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E26S4E1TheBestOfBothWorlds The Best of Both Worlds]]" makes it seem as if Picard is just going to shrug this one off, despite looking a little haunted at the final shot. Nope, the very next episode, "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E2Family Family]]" (FanNickName: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part III") has Picard collapsing in tears about how the Borg essentially ''raped'' him and forced him to experience every moment. You might think it's {{Catharsis}} in that episode, but ''nope''. Fast forward to ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'', and we find Jean-Luc has not gotten over it ''at all'', and it's hinted he has nightmares about it ''all the time''.

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** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' tends to have this as a result of the ResetButton. In a
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typical episode, example is the episode where [[TheCaptain Picard]] experiences the planet he grew up on destroyed and everyone he loved killed via implanted memories. There's a brief shot at the end when he looks sad, but then it's like it never happened. Ronald Moore said that the episode was sort of an accident; they were just concerned with making a good hour long story (and it is considered one of the best of the series) and didn't realize until it aired just how traumatized Picard should have been afterwards. They resolved to make a few {{continuity nod}}s and then just continue.
*** Being turned into Locutus in "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E26S4E1TheBestOfBothWorlds The Best of Both Worlds]]" makes it seem as if Picard is just going to shrug this one off, off being assimilated and turned into Locutus, despite looking a little haunted at the final shot. Nope, the very next episode, "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E2Family Family]]" (FanNickName: "The Best of Both Worlds, Part III") has Picard collapsing in tears about how the Borg essentially ''raped'' him and forced him to experience every moment. You might think it's {{Catharsis}} in that episode, but ''nope''. Fast forward to ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact'', and we find Jean-Luc has not gotten over it ''at all'', and it's hinted he has nightmares about it ''all the time''.



** In ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' Captain Kirk was pretty bad about this. The most grating example had to be in "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate Operation: Annihilate!]]" where [[TheKirk Kirk's]] only brother and his sister-in-law died horribly, leaving their young son an orphan, only a week after Edith Keener's death. Not only does the episode end with [[EverybodyLaughsEnding on a bright, chipper note]] but we never even find out what happened to Kirk's nephew.

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** In ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''
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Captain Kirk was is pretty bad about this. The most grating example had has to be in "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate Operation: Annihilate!]]" where [[TheKirk Kirk's]] only brother and his sister-in-law died die horribly, leaving their young son an orphan, only a week after Edith Keener's death. Not only does the episode end with [[EverybodyLaughsEnding on a bright, chipper note]] but we never even find out what happened to Kirk's nephew.



** T'Pol in ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', after her mother's death. [[TheStoic Then again, she's a Vulcan, so she was probably repressing it.]] On the other hand, Trip still feels the death of his sister several episodes later and has nightmares about it.

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** ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''
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T'Pol in ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', after her mother's death. [[TheStoic Then again, she's a Vulcan, so she was probably repressing it.]] On the other hand, Trip still feels the death of his sister several episodes later and has nightmares about it.



** ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'''s Harry Kim basically undergoes a seven-year TraumaCongaLine while lost in the Delta Quadrant -- ranging from torment by a MonsterClown to [[TheyKilledKennyAgain repeatedly getting killed]] -- and yet remains one of the most bright-eyed optimists on the ship.

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** ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'''s ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': Harry Kim basically undergoes a seven-year TraumaCongaLine while lost in the Delta Quadrant -- ranging from torment by a MonsterClown to [[TheyKilledKennyAgain repeatedly getting killed]] -- and yet remains one of the most bright-eyed optimists on the ship.
4th Sep '17 9:28:59 PM Peteman
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** Clara Oswald's tenure is, if anything, a fairly brutal {{deconstruction}} of the whole trope, not helped by her tendency to act as a strong-willed, DontYouDarePityMe type of person, or the fact that her friendship with the Doctor is frequently mired in half-truths and misunderstandings (especially with the colder, more detached and more alien Twelfth Doctor). Whenever she's overcome by fear, grief, or anger, she tends to explode, averting the trope in infrequent but all the more heartbreaking outbursts. By her third series, she's forever lost the man she grew to love and has visibly changed from [[FunPersonified a cheerful and cheeky lady]] into [[BrokenBird a more worldweary and reckless figure]]. Even though the Doctor is trying to be a caring friend, he realises she's become numbed to emotional trauma after plenty of tragedies and has started bordering on a {{death seeker}}. This causes him to ''explicitly worry'' in front of her, despite himself having gone through many awful and infuriating things during his entire lifetime and needing her as his LivingEmotionalCrutch, while she keeps denying that her grief is making her increasingly depressed and jaded towards everything but her adrenaline junkie desires. And ''then'' she occasionally breaks down into a sobbing mess, regardless, proving that she's still traumatised by the deaths of her loved ones. In the end, the trope is reconstructed: When she [[spoiler: condemns herself to death]] in "Face the Raven", she accepts this as the bitter fruit of her recklessness and faces it with courage, telling the Doctor that both of them must be brave now. Unfortunately, as described above he has a SanitySlippage, [[spoiler: as she learns when he pulls her out of time. In the end, helping him move on leaves her functionally immortal with her own TARDIS and companion, able to have near-infinite adventures -- so long as she eventually returns to her death -- as a sadder, wiser, more cautious woman]].

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** Clara Oswald's tenure is, if anything, a fairly brutal {{deconstruction}} of the whole trope, not helped by her tendency to act as a strong-willed, DontYouDarePityMe type of person, or the fact that her friendship with the Doctor is frequently mired in half-truths and misunderstandings (especially with the colder, more detached and more alien Twelfth Doctor). Whenever she's overcome by fear, grief, or anger, she tends to explode, averting the trope in infrequent but all the more heartbreaking outbursts. By her third series, she's forever lost the man she grew to love and has visibly changed from [[FunPersonified a cheerful and cheeky lady]] into [[BrokenBird a more worldweary and reckless figure]]. Even though the Doctor is trying to be a caring friend, he realises she's become numbed to emotional trauma after plenty of tragedies and has started bordering on a {{death seeker}}. This causes him to ''explicitly worry'' in front of her, despite himself having gone through many awful and infuriating things during his entire lifetime and needing her as his LivingEmotionalCrutch, while she keeps denying that her grief is making her increasingly depressed and jaded towards everything but her adrenaline junkie desires. And ''then'' she occasionally breaks down into a sobbing mess, regardless, proving that she's still traumatised by the deaths of her loved ones. In the end, the trope is reconstructed: When she [[spoiler: condemns herself to death]] in "Face the Raven", she accepts this as the bitter fruit of her recklessness and faces it with courage, telling the Doctor that both of them must be brave now. Unfortunately, as described above he has a SanitySlippage, [[spoiler: as she learns when he pulls her out of time. In the end, helping him move on leaves her functionally immortal with her own TARDIS and companion, able to have near-infinite adventures -- so long as she eventually returns to her death -- as a sadder, wiser, more cautious woman]].
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