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29th Jul '16 6:21:06 AM Pichu-kun
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* Firestar in ''Literature/WarriorCats'' doesn't think twice about leaving his 'housefolk' to go live with a group of feral cats. It seems he didn't really care for his owners, which is arguably RealityEnsues since plenty of cats ''do'' just run off, but is a bit jarring. He thinks about his feline friends and believes he's better off with Thunderclan, but doesn't think of his humans besides the fact that they'll get a ReplacementGoldfish after he leaves (which they do).
6th Jul '16 4:26:21 PM pinkdalek
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** Implicitly averted in Season 14 which suggests the Doctor has spent a year brooding after the events of "The Deadly Assassin" in which he had to dump Sarah, decided he hated his former FriendlyEnemy, got tortured by his own people and had to endure a harrowing battle in a YearInsideHourOutside {{Cyberspace}} in which he continually experienced terrible nightmares. Meeting Leela helps snap him out of it.

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** Implicitly averted Dealt with interestingly in Season 14 which suggests the 14. The Doctor has spent a year brooding after in "The Face of Evil" is rather chirpy considering he's just been dumped by Sarah before having an unusually harrowing experience involving the events Master and a lot of torture... but the opening of "The Deadly Assassin" in which he Robots of Death" has him give his age to Leela, and it's [[TimeSkip a year higher than it had to dump Sarah, decided been a couple of episodes ago]]. Presumably he hated did his former FriendlyEnemy, got tortured by his own people and had to endure a harrowing battle in a YearInsideHourOutside {{Cyberspace}} in which he continually experienced terrible nightmares. Meeting Leela helps snap him out of it.brooding offscreen. The ExpandedUniverse plugs the gap here.
6th Jul '16 10:23:15 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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-->'''Austin:''' ''(mournfully)'' I can't believe Vanessa, my bride, my one true love, the woman who taught me the beauty of monogamy, was a fembot all along... ''(cheerfully)'' Wait a tick, that means I'm single again! ''OH BEHAVE!''

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-->'''Austin:''' ''(mournfully)'' I can't believe Vanessa, my bride, my one true love, the woman who taught me the beauty of monogamy, was a fembot all along... ''(cheerfully)'' Wait a tick, that means I'm single again! ''OH BEHAVE!''''[[{{Catchphrase}} Oh, behave]]!''
6th Jul '16 10:19:47 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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-->'''Austin:''' I can't believe Vanessa, my bride, my one true love, the woman who taught me the beauty of monogamy, was a fembot all along...wait a tick. That means I'm single again! OH BEHAVE!

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-->'''Austin:''' ''(mournfully)'' I can't believe Vanessa, my bride, my one true love, the woman who taught me the beauty of monogamy, was a fembot all along...wait along... ''(cheerfully)'' Wait a tick. That tick, that means I'm single again! OH BEHAVE!''OH BEHAVE!''
3rd Jul '16 6:52:40 AM KoopaKid17
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** Nightmare Moon's thousand-year [[SealedEvilInACan banishment in the moon]] doesn't seem to have affected her sanity (or Luna's).

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** Nightmare Moon's thousand-year Subverted when Princess Luna was [[SealedEvilInACan banishment banished in the moon]] doesn't for a thousand years as Nightmare Moon. At first, it didn't seem to have affected her Luna's sanity (or Luna's).but the Season 5 episode "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?" reveals that she created the dream-warping Tantabus as a reminder that she once was Nightmare Moon. With some encouragement from Ponyville, Luna shakes off the ghosts and defeats her creation.
21st Jun '16 12:58:22 PM Silverblade2
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** King Théoden is as calm about the recent death of his son Théodred as if it had happened years ago. TheMovie adding a scene of him heart-breakingly mourning his son is considered AdaptationDistillation by some.

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** King Théoden is as calm about the recent death of his son Théodred as if it had happened years ago. TheMovie adding adds a scene of him heart-breakingly mourning his son is considered AdaptationDistillation by some.son.
12th Jun '16 5:45:55 PM Doug86
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* In ''Film/AKidInKingArthursCourt'', Calvin has been transported to [[KingArthur Camelot]] without warning. He spends his first few days in another time period [[SchizoTech commissioning rollerblades from the local blacksmith and making Big Macs]] [[FridgeLogic somehow.]]

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* In ''Film/AKidInKingArthursCourt'', Calvin has been transported to [[KingArthur [[Myth/KingArthur Camelot]] without warning. He spends his first few days in another time period [[SchizoTech commissioning rollerblades from the local blacksmith and making Big Macs]] [[FridgeLogic somehow.]]
12th Jun '16 5:25:36 PM pinkdalek
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* The protagonist of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' both averts and embraces it - while he strives to go home, he does so in a manner free of angst. In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' meanwhile, the protagonist is dragged alone (at least Marche had his friends dragged with him), he kind of goes with it. At one point, he rather cheerfully admits to forgetting that the whole point of him traveling and adventuring was to go home; he was having too much fun, you know, traveling and adventuring.
* In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', one of your {{Guest Star Party Member}}s, [[spoiler:Aria]], performs a HeroicSacrifice and dies in Luneth's arms. After they all black out and wake up in town later, no further mention is made, not even by Luneth, who [[spoiler:Aria]] was closest to.
* Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' is surprisingly well adjusted for a 16-year-old orphan with a tail that gets dragged along to multiple genocides over the course of the game. To the point where it's genuinely shocking that his true origins can actually cause a HeroicBSOD, which he still gets over rather quickly. Even the ''adults'' in this game aren't that well put-together. And while finding out his origins did freak him out a bit, he immediately pushed it aside and turned on his creator while citing ThePowerOfFriendship. The BSOD only occurred after said creator apparently ripped his soul out, and it took the rest of the party's Friendship speeches to help him recover.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'':
** Tidus woke up stranded in a strange new land and later found out his home was destroyed, but he's always cheerful and energetic. [[spoiler:Even when he finds out he's a ghost (of a sort) and will fade away once Sin is defeated, he faces his end with a jubilant attitude]]. However, he certainly manages to angst about ''[[{{Wangst}} his family issues.]]''.
** Most of the main cast is quite depressed and either repressing it, hiding it or coping in their own way. The game lampshades this after Home when a character tells Tidus to smile because he'll only worry Yuna if he doesn't. It isn't hard to imagine this is what all the Guardians are doing the same so as to make the Pilgrimage less painful. This is specifically addressed in the cutscene outside of Djose Temple: Yuna shows up late, and everyone starts making cracks about her hair and generally kidding each other. In the narration, Tidus says that at that point, he was the only one really laughing, the implication being that everyone else was just trying to keep a stiff upper lip in the face of Spira's, and more specifically their, inevitable fate.
** Spira as a whole has this feel to it, especially considering their constant terror by Sin. It's remarkable how they can continue their lives when Cthulu-Moby Dick can wipe out their lives in an instant.
* What about Serah of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2''? At the start of the game, she's already depressed about Lightning missing and Snow somewhere in Gran Pulse. During the course of the game, she found out that [[spoiler: she has the Eyes of Etro, meaning her life span shortens every time she changes the timeline. She also found out that Snow acquired a l'cie mark, Lightning is in Valhalla (a place she can't leave easily) and the crystal pillar is in danger of breaking.]] Despite all that, she stays cheerful and optimistic. Then we found out that [[spoiler:after defeating Caius, all the time paradoxes get resolved and the only timeline they can return to is 500AF. This means that the people Serah know in 2AF are dead, Snow may or may not be in the same timeline, Lightning may or may not leave Valhalla, Noel may vanish and she may die.]] She probably know these but she still went ahead with a smile.

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* The protagonist of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' both averts and embraces it - while he strives to go home, he does so in a manner free of angst. In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' meanwhile, the protagonist is dragged alone (at least Marche had his friends dragged with him), he kind of goes with it. At one point, he rather cheerfully admits to forgetting that the whole point of him traveling and adventuring was to go home; he was having too much fun, you know, traveling and adventuring.
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In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', one of your {{Guest Star Party Member}}s, [[spoiler:Aria]], performs a HeroicSacrifice and dies in Luneth's arms. After they all black out and wake up in town later, no further mention is made, not even by Luneth, who [[spoiler:Aria]] was closest to.
* ** In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', Red XIII is introduced as one of Hojo's research specimens, and was being experimented on for use in breeding experiments. It's unclear how long he has been a specimen for, but it's suggested it's for years. Other party members subjected to Hojo's experimentation (Vincent and Cloud) were deeply traumatised by it. The moodiest Red XIII gets about it is a brief {{Fauxshadowing}} scene where he mentions to Tifa that he's worried he'll start to go mad like the Clones, and Tifa tells him to be strong - other than that, he's more concerned with his own [[ADarkerMe dorky persona issues]] than the horrific body horror in his history. This may be the result of how a lot of Red XIII's planned material was cut. It might also be a character choice, as upon witnessing his grandfather's death, Red XIII responds with giggling denial.
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Zidane of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' is surprisingly well adjusted for a 16-year-old orphan with a tail that gets dragged along to multiple genocides over the course of the game. To the point where it's genuinely shocking that his true origins can actually cause a HeroicBSOD, which he still gets over rather quickly. Even the ''adults'' in this game aren't that well put-together. And while finding out his origins did freak him out a bit, he immediately pushed it aside and turned on his creator while citing ThePowerOfFriendship. The BSOD only occurred after said creator apparently ripped his soul out, and it took the rest of the party's Friendship speeches to help him recover.
* ** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'':
** *** Tidus woke up stranded in a strange new land and later found out his home was destroyed, but he's always cheerful and energetic. [[spoiler:Even when he finds out he's a ghost (of a sort) and will fade away once Sin is defeated, he faces his end with a jubilant attitude]]. However, he certainly manages to angst about ''[[{{Wangst}} his family issues.]]''.
** *** Most of the main cast is quite depressed and either repressing it, hiding it or coping in their own way. The game lampshades this after Home when a character tells Tidus to smile because he'll only worry Yuna if he doesn't. It isn't hard to imagine this is what all the Guardians are doing the same so as to make the Pilgrimage less painful. This is specifically addressed in the cutscene outside of Djose Temple: Yuna shows up late, and everyone starts making cracks about her hair and generally kidding each other. In the narration, Tidus says that at that point, he was the only one really laughing, the implication being that everyone else was just trying to keep a stiff upper lip in the face of Spira's, and more specifically their, inevitable fate.
** *** Spira as a whole has this feel to it, especially considering their constant terror by Sin. It's remarkable how they can continue their lives when Cthulu-Moby Dick can wipe out their lives in an instant.
* ** The protagonist of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsAdvance'' both averts and embraces it - while he strives to go home, he does so in a manner free of angst. In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'' meanwhile, the protagonist is dragged alone (at least Marche had his friends dragged with him), he kind of goes with it. At one point, he rather cheerfully admits to forgetting that the whole point of him traveling and adventuring was to go home; he was having too much fun, you know, traveling and adventuring.
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What about Serah of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2''? At the start of the game, she's already depressed about Lightning missing and Snow somewhere in Gran Pulse. During the course of the game, she found out that [[spoiler: she has the Eyes of Etro, meaning her life span shortens every time she changes the timeline. She also found out that Snow acquired a l'cie mark, Lightning is in Valhalla (a place she can't leave easily) and the crystal pillar is in danger of breaking.]] Despite all that, she stays cheerful and optimistic. Then we found out that [[spoiler:after defeating Caius, all the time paradoxes get resolved and the only timeline they can return to is 500AF. This means that the people Serah know in 2AF are dead, Snow may or may not be in the same timeline, Lightning may or may not leave Valhalla, Noel may vanish and she may die.]] She probably know these but she still went ahead with a smile.
9th Jun '16 12:28:08 AM WillBGood
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If your answer is "well, a little sad -- but who cares about that, it's escapin' time!", you might be an unusual haracter. Angst? What angst?

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If your answer is "well, a little sad -- but who cares about that, it's escapin' time!", you might be an unusual haracter.character. Angst? What angst?
5th Jun '16 5:22:19 PM DoctorTItanX
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As disliked as {{Wangst}} is, you'd think this would be preferable, but [[TropesAreTools any trope can be mishandled]]. A character shrugging at trauma that would reduce an average RealLife person to emotional collapse (or at least a few honest tears) can definitely strain the audience's and WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief and may make some characters respond with genuine shock or confusion. A character who does not react to suffering at all can come across as a sociopath -- hardly what this trope meant to express. Of course, similar to {{Wangst}}, this {{trope}} can be PlayedForLaughs as well.

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As disliked as {{Wangst}} is, you'd think this would be preferable, but [[TropesAreTools any trope can be mishandled]]. A character shrugging at trauma that would reduce an average RealLife person to emotional collapse (or at least a few honest tears) can definitely strain the audience's and audience's WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief and may make some characters respond with genuine shock or confusion. A character who does not react to suffering at all can come across as a sociopath -- hardly what this trope meant to express. Of course, similar to {{Wangst}}, this {{trope}} can be PlayedForLaughs as well.
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